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Gw2, from my experience, is the only game which you can spend countless hours grinding for a item you really want, but not get it. Gw2 is a great game but the RNG and lack of options to obtain certain armor/weaps is really depressing. I dont know if its because NCsoft wanted it this way so people buy more gems or what, but this really needs to change.

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You must be new to video games…

Well this is more about MMO games, not games in general. I played a couple MMOs and whenever I wanted something in them I would be able to get it. It wasnt dependant on my luck but on my effort/time spent.

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What can’t you get that isn’t obtainable through time spent? ie accumulation of gold or crafting?

I’d hate to return to the “/roll for a diff piece of loot in every diff instance” days of mmos….I loathed that system – the weeks and months I spent in some games just to get an item which became obsolete a few patches later was heart breaking at times.

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Jski.6180

You must be new to video games…

Well this is more about MMO games, not games in general. I played a couple MMOs and whenever I wanted something in them I would be able to get it. It wasnt dependant on my luck but on my effort/time spent.

MMO even rpgs are just like that unless they are the super easy hit one button receive bacon type games. You just make of grown up with the free items games. GW2 is a very low grind game there are games out there that have a mob that only pops every 2hr has a .005% chase to drop an item AND can only be taged by one person and or one group. There even worst mobs that only pop. every 72hr with a chase to be a super version that only drop “good” items in that super version. You have no ideal what real RNG is or what real grind is.

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You must be new to video games…

Well this is more about MMO games, not games in general. I played a couple MMOs and whenever I wanted something in them I would be able to get it. It wasnt dependant on my luck but on my effort/time spent.

MMO even rpgs are just like that unless they are the super easy hit one button receive bacon type games. You just make of grown up with the free items games. GW2 is a very low grind game there are games out there that have a mob that only pops every 2hr has a .005% chase to drop an item AND can only be taged by one person and or one group. There even worst mobs that only pop. every 72hr with a chase to be a super version that only drop “good” items in that super version. You have no ideal what real RNG is or what real grind is.

Gw2 is not a very low grind game.

It borders on being one of the most grindy games on the market atm.

Think that idea has been proven in multiple threads below.

If you want to talk about low drop rates:

Player research into the chance of receiving a precursor when combining four exotic weapons of the same type estimates the probability at 0.79% with 2901 trials.

The chance to receive a precursor out of a bag/box is much lower.

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Gw2, from my experience, is the only game which you can spend countless hours grinding for a item you really want, but not get it. Gw2 is a great game but the RNG and lack of options to obtain certain armor/weaps is really depressing. I dont know if its because NCsoft wanted it this way so people buy more gems or what, but this really needs to change.

I just want to know what u want to get that u say u cant get

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From the looks of your AP, looks like u haven’t played enough yet

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What can’t you get that isn’t obtainable through time spent? ie accumulation of gold or crafting?

I’d hate to return to the “/roll for a diff piece of loot in every diff instance” days of mmos….I loathed that system – the weeks and months I spent in some games just to get an item which became obsolete a few patches later was heart breaking at times.

Well there is a difference with being able to buy a item and getting a item for doing content which rewards it. In gw2 if I want something I HAVE farm gold, rather than playing the actual game. This makes it more of a job than a game.

I understand your feelings about the roll system but I am sure alot of game have improved it. For example when I played Tera, if i were to go into a dungeon with a party of 5 and I get bad rolls the first few times, most likely on the next kill my roll will be 90+.

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Randulf.7614

You must be new to video games…

Well this is more about MMO games, not games in general. I played a couple MMOs and whenever I wanted something in them I would be able to get it. It wasnt dependant on my luck but on my effort/time spent.

MMO even rpgs are just like that unless they are the super easy hit one button receive bacon type games. You just make of grown up with the free items games. GW2 is a very low grind game there are games out there that have a mob that only pops every 2hr has a .005% chase to drop an item AND can only be taged by one person and or one group. There even worst mobs that only pop. every 72hr with a chase to be a super version that only drop “good” items in that super version. You have no ideal what real RNG is or what real grind is.

Gw2 is not a very low grind game.

It borders on being one of the most grindy games on the market atm.

Think that idea has been proven in multiple threads below.

That comes down to perspective. There’s no “necessary” grind in this game really – nothing you need, whether it is basic gear or levels etc is grindy. It is however, grindy in relation to the cosmetic stuff that you want and that’s partly what they wanted. I agree they went too far with what you need for some things, but it’s debatable whether it is the worst mmo for grind.

..I’m playing TSW as we speak and that is FAR worse.

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Gw2, from my experience, is the only game which you can spend countless hours grinding for a item you really want, but not get it. Gw2 is a great game but the RNG and lack of options to obtain certain armor/weaps is really depressing. I dont know if its because NCsoft wanted it this way so people buy more gems or what, but this really needs to change.

I just want to know what u want to get that u say u cant get

Precursor, Ascended armor/weaps, Foefire’s essence ( and weapons alike) from fun content not the MF.

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Posted by: Randulf.7614

Randulf.7614

What can’t you get that isn’t obtainable through time spent? ie accumulation of gold or crafting?

I’d hate to return to the “/roll for a diff piece of loot in every diff instance” days of mmos….I loathed that system – the weeks and months I spent in some games just to get an item which became obsolete a few patches later was heart breaking at times.

Well there is a difference with being able to buy a item and getting a item for doing content which rewards it. In gw2 if I want something I HAVE farm gold, rather than playing the actual game. This makes it more of a job than a game.

I understand your feelings about the roll system but I am sure alot of game have improved it. For example when I played Tera, if i were to go into a dungeon with a party of 5 and I get bad rolls the first few times, most likely on the next kill my roll will be 90+.

True on the farming gold, but it does mean everything is obtainable with time and more so than most MMO’s allow. It just gets locked behind the “non essential grinding” factor discussed above. I ultimately prefer this system, but would welcome improvemenst to the RNG system to make it less unforgiving.

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Jski.6180

You must be new to video games…

Well this is more about MMO games, not games in general. I played a couple MMOs and whenever I wanted something in them I would be able to get it. It wasnt dependant on my luck but on my effort/time spent.

MMO even rpgs are just like that unless they are the super easy hit one button receive bacon type games. You just make of grown up with the free items games. GW2 is a very low grind game there are games out there that have a mob that only pops every 2hr has a .005% chase to drop an item AND can only be taged by one person and or one group. There even worst mobs that only pop. every 72hr with a chase to be a super version that only drop “good” items in that super version. You have no ideal what real RNG is or what real grind is.

Gw2 is not a very low grind game.

It borders on being one of the most grindy games on the market atm.

Think that idea has been proven in multiple threads below.

Its an very low grind game for the one fact that you get your own loot and your own nods that alone make the out put of items for time greatly higher in your favor. There also use for every item in the game in that you can beak down lower end armor to get crafting mats to make higher end armor. I think nothing been proven because at best ppl on the side saying its grindly only have one argument and that is saying it takes time to get something and that not a grind that is a time gap there is a big differences.

The way ppl view what grind is i have got to say is out right sad and sicking. Its like any type of work is being called a grind. “What you mean i have to do an event more then once to get something it must be a grind” that type of thinking is the worst and it WILL kill any type of long run games because games like mmorpgs live off of time consumption the ones that charges fee tend to have much longer time gaps in-fact to keep you playing longer.

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From the looks of your AP, looks like u haven’t played enough yet

I have been playing with game since BWE1, I have 2 legendarie weapons, a bunch of items and gold. How is 9.5k AP not alot? just means I dont do all my dailies and all meta achievements for the LS.

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Dahkeus.8243

You must be new to video games…

Well this is more about MMO games, not games in general. I played a couple MMOs and whenever I wanted something in them I would be able to get it. It wasnt dependant on my luck but on my effort/time spent.

What MMOs did you play?

Every single serious MMO available is pretty much designed around making players grind until they get a lucky drop that they need so that they can be geared enough for content.

At least in GW2, the only stuff that requires RNG for drops is just a cosmetic upgrade.

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It’s easily the most grindy mmo I’ve played for any length of time.
There’s a reason it’s often referred to as Grind Wars 2.

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I have been playing with game since BWE1, I have 2 legendarie weapons, a bunch of items and gold. .

Yet you are complaining about not being able to get items. Haha you’re funny.

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Jski.6180

You must be new to video games…

Well this is more about MMO games, not games in general. I played a couple MMOs and whenever I wanted something in them I would be able to get it. It wasnt dependant on my luck but on my effort/time spent.

What MMOs did you play?

Every single serious MMO available is pretty much designed around making players grind until they get a lucky drop that they need so that they can be geared enough for content.

At least in GW2, the only stuff that requires RNG for drops is just a cosmetic upgrade.

I must agree with that a great deal.
Think of it like this what is “end game?” For a lot of ppl its to raid or fight big bosses. Well why do they do this or do they want to? Most of the time its for loot or skins. What would happen if the boss or raid drops it 100%? No one would run it after they got there loot. That means you MUST be there the first time that ppl are running it or your not going to get it done. To have a type of RNG keeps playing coming back to events so new players can do them too.

It’s easily the most grindy mmo I’ve played for any length of time.
There’s a reason it’s often referred to as Grind Wars 2.

Ya because they both start with a G and they know its an easy troll.

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You must be new to video games…

Well this is more about MMO games, not games in general. I played a couple MMOs and whenever I wanted something in them I would be able to get it. It wasnt dependant on my luck but on my effort/time spent.

What MMOs did you play?

Every single serious MMO available is pretty much designed around making players grind until they get a lucky drop that they need so that they can be geared enough for content.

At least in GW2, the only stuff that requires RNG for drops is just a cosmetic upgrade.

We must obviously play different games.

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The argument to the grind is not it takes time to get something, its that it takes a kitten ton of gold and at the same time its not like your getting that gold from playing dungeons or doing dynamic events( unless you played the game since release and never spent any gold) the gold is from stright up spam one and WP as fast as possible.

The fact that champ farming is the most viable way to get a weapon like Foefire’s essence is sad. I wouldnt mind grinding a fun dungeon for a month or even more for a item like foefire’s. This post is about the way to obtain most items, which is gold farming, which is boring as hell the first and the last time you do it.

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The argument to the grind is not it takes time to get something, its that it takes a kitten ton of gold and at the same time its not like your getting that gold from playing dungeons or doing dynamic events( unless you played the game since release and never spent any gold) the gold is from stright up spam one and WP as fast as possible.

The fact that champ farming is the most viable way to get a weapon like Foefire’s essence is sad. I wouldnt mind grinding a fun dungeon for a month or even more for a item like foefire’s. This post is about the way to obtain most items, which is gold farming, which is boring as hell the first and the last time you do it.

Ppl have there ways of making gold just because you do not want to do them dose not give you the right to pass judgment on there ways. You get a lot of good and loot from every thing you do in GW2 the amounts a very high. What are you even doing with your time in GW2 trying to fish vs ambient fish mobs?

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I have been playing with game since BWE1, I have 2 legendarie weapons, a bunch of items and gold. .

Yet you are complaining about not being able to get items. Haha you’re funny.

I am not complain about not getting items, its about how you get the items. It pure farm gold buy matts its not like your doing, lets say, 10 Dynamic events on each map, collecting a certain token. After you have done that, you combine all tokens and get a item on the lvl of Volcanus. This is just a example, im not saying that how it should work.

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I have been playing with game since BWE1, I have 2 legendarie weapons, a bunch of items and gold. .

Yet you are complaining about not being able to get items. Haha you’re funny.

I am not complain about not getting items, its about how you get the items. It pure farm gold buy matts its not like your doing, lets say, 10 Dynamic events on each map, collecting a certain token. After you have done that, you combine all tokens and get a item on the lvl of Volcanus. This is just a example, im not saying that how it should work.

So gold? Because that is how gold works. I think you mean to say you want to get rare items easier because just having a token system dose not make things come after faster in-fact it may slow things down due to high token cost.

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Gw2, from my experience, is the only game which you can spend countless hours grinding for a item you really want, but not get it. Gw2 is a great game but the RNG and lack of options to obtain certain armor/weaps is really depressing. I dont know if its because NCsoft wanted it this way so people buy more gems or what, but this really needs to change.

I just want to know what u want to get that u say u cant get

Precursor, Ascended armor/weaps, Foefire’s essence ( and weapons alike) from fun content not the MF.

All of those items are obtainable. Precursors are the hardest but if u save up u can get it. Your Foe fire’s Essence is easy to get. U just don’t want it hard enough. How many hours have u sink in to this game I want to know?

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There is no logical path to take to work tword acquiring something beyond buying gems and converting them to gold.

DR aka the diminishing return on farming materials was the first big red flag all of us caught onto.

The amount of materials required to craft desirable items is substantial yet the game does not allow us the ability to farm them ourselves. It forces us to farm or buy gold.

If they removed the DR I think a good portion of this problem would die as players would feel they have at least a chance of getting something for their time invested.

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The argument to the grind is not it takes time to get something, its that it takes a kitten ton of gold and at the same time its not like your getting that gold from playing dungeons or doing dynamic events( unless you played the game since release and never spent any gold) the gold is from stright up spam one and WP as fast as possible.

The fact that champ farming is the most viable way to get a weapon like Foefire’s essence is sad. I wouldnt mind grinding a fun dungeon for a month or even more for a item like foefire’s. This post is about the way to obtain most items, which is gold farming, which is boring as hell the first and the last time you do it.

Ppl have there ways of making gold just because you do not want to do them dose not give you the right to pass judgment on there ways. You get a lot of good and loot from every thing you do in GW2 the amounts a very high. What are you even doing with your time in GW2 trying to fish vs ambient fish mobs?

The reason why everyone farms the way they do in gw2 is because that is the only viable farm. Why do fractals when running the champ train is more profitable? That is what most ppl think. The way i play gw2 is i do w.e I feel like doing. I’ll try to solo a dungeon, ill do dungeon story mode with newbies, I run around areas looking for cool events to do. I try to enjoy the content Anet wanted us to play, not some gindy champ train.

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Gw2, from my experience, is the only game which you can spend countless hours grinding for a item you really want, but not get it. Gw2 is a great game but the RNG and lack of options to obtain certain armor/weaps is really depressing. I dont know if its because NCsoft wanted it this way so people buy more gems or what, but this really needs to change.

I just want to know what u want to get that u say u cant get

Precursor, Ascended armor/weaps, Foefire’s essence ( and weapons alike) from fun content not the MF.

All of those items are obtainable. Precursors are the hardest but if u save up u can get it. Your Foe fire’s Essence is easy to get. U just don’t want it hard enough. How many hours have u sink in to this game I want to know?

I am not saying its not possible to get these items. What I am saying is that to get these items. I am forced to do boring content. Unless I want to wait a year before I can afford I 500g weapon. I have over 2k hours in gw2.

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Posted by: Azreell.1568

Azreell.1568

I keep hearing the same thing over and over from so many players.

They do not feel rewarded for their time investment.

I truly hope Anet is catching onto this.

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Jski.6180

The argument to the grind is not it takes time to get something, its that it takes a kitten ton of gold and at the same time its not like your getting that gold from playing dungeons or doing dynamic events( unless you played the game since release and never spent any gold) the gold is from stright up spam one and WP as fast as possible.

The fact that champ farming is the most viable way to get a weapon like Foefire’s essence is sad. I wouldnt mind grinding a fun dungeon for a month or even more for a item like foefire’s. This post is about the way to obtain most items, which is gold farming, which is boring as hell the first and the last time you do it.

Ppl have there ways of making gold just because you do not want to do them dose not give you the right to pass judgment on there ways. You get a lot of good and loot from every thing you do in GW2 the amounts a very high. What are you even doing with your time in GW2 trying to fish vs ambient fish mobs?

The reason why everyone farms the way they do in gw2 is because that is the only viable farm. Why do fractals when running the champ train is more profitable? That is what most ppl think. The way i play gw2 is i do w.e I feel like doing. I’ll try to solo a dungeon, ill do dungeon story mode with newbies, I run around areas looking for cool events to do. I try to enjoy the content Anet wanted us to play, not some gindy champ train.

Its the easiest afk farming there is is why there no real work into it and you can chat with ppl when your doing it in a way it can be very fun and i would take that over solo farming any day in any game (i still have nightmares farming bees with other ppl in ff11 you had to tag them before others or you got nothing). Dungeons give gold and loot but that seem not the reason why your doing them so why would you think to get more loot? Your coming off as saying i am having fun but i want more loot. If any thing Dungeons give you tokens to buy rares that you can brake down into ecto to craft other items or to sell its not at the best rates for GW2 but its still a lot better then most games.

I keep hearing the same thing over and over from so many players.

They do not feel rewarded for their time investment.

I truly hope Anet is catching onto this.

But how with out just destroying the ability of gold to buy items and skin? You cant just throw gold at ppl for free (items too if they can be sold or broken down). There is a system in play that need to be used to keep gold at a good value. In GW1 gold become unless and it become an ecto system same thing happen in D2 where SoJ where the ways to buy things not the in game gold. Gold or money is made to be the end all be all way of buying and selling goods it needs to be some what hard to get to keep some type of value to it.

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I have been playing with game since BWE1, I have 2 legendarie weapons, a bunch of items and gold. .

Yet you are complaining about not being able to get items. Haha you’re funny.

I am not complain about not getting items, its about how you get the items. It pure farm gold buy matts its not like your doing, lets say, 10 Dynamic events on each map, collecting a certain token. After you have done that, you combine all tokens and get a item on the lvl of Volcanus. This is just a example, im not saying that how it should work.

So are saying Anet should just hand everyone a cool item just because u grind for a certain amount of time? What’s the point of the game if everyone has the same item and pol who don’t work hard gets the same s…t as u do

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I have been playing with game since BWE1, I have 2 legendarie weapons, a bunch of items and gold. .

Yet you are complaining about not being able to get items. Haha you’re funny.

I am not complain about not getting items, its about how you get the items. It pure farm gold buy matts its not like your doing, lets say, 10 Dynamic events on each map, collecting a certain token. After you have done that, you combine all tokens and get a item on the lvl of Volcanus. This is just a example, im not saying that how it should work.

So gold? Because that is how gold works. I think you mean to say you want to get rare items easier because just having a token system dose not make things come after faster in-fact it may slow things down due to high token cost.

This has nothing to do with the speed of obtaining something. It is the way the items r obtained. I dont know what ppl dont understand about this.

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Unless I want to wait a year before I can afford I 500g weapon. I have over 2k hours in gw2.

According to you you have a bunch of items and gold:

I have 2 legendarie weapons, a bunch of items and gold. .

So cash in and get what you want.

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Azreell.1568

I have been playing with game since BWE1, I have 2 legendarie weapons, a bunch of items and gold. .

Yet you are complaining about not being able to get items. Haha you’re funny.

I am not complain about not getting items, its about how you get the items. It pure farm gold buy matts its not like your doing, lets say, 10 Dynamic events on each map, collecting a certain token. After you have done that, you combine all tokens and get a item on the lvl of Volcanus. This is just a example, im not saying that how it should work.

So are saying Anet should just hand everyone a cool item just because u grind for a certain amount of time? What’s the point of the game if everyone has the same item and pol who don’t work hard gets the same s…t as u do

What’s the point in playing a game you have .76% chance in 2109 tries of getting something you desire aka a precursor.

What’s the point of playing a game in which you kill one of the hardest bosses in game 80 time’s (Teq) and open all 80 bags and receive nothing but blues and greens.

See the point?

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I have been playing with game since BWE1, I have 2 legendarie weapons, a bunch of items and gold. .

Yet you are complaining about not being able to get items. Haha you’re funny.

I am not complain about not getting items, its about how you get the items. It pure farm gold buy matts its not like your doing, lets say, 10 Dynamic events on each map, collecting a certain token. After you have done that, you combine all tokens and get a item on the lvl of Volcanus. This is just a example, im not saying that how it should work.

So are saying Anet should just hand everyone a cool item just because u grind for a certain amount of time? What’s the point of the game if everyone has the same item and pol who don’t work hard gets the same s…t as u do

You clearly do not understand what I am trying to get to. This is about not wanting to spend time grinding for a item. It is about what you have to do to obtain a item. Its not like I can grind fractals and get a Ascended armor set, or I cant run a set amount of dungeons for Foefire’s essence or do a chain of difficult quest to get a precursor.

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I keep hearing the same thing over and over from so many players.

They do not feel rewarded for their time investment.

I truly hope Anet is catching onto this.

How dare you expect such a thing!

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Posted by: IVIUIEI.9631

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Gw2, from my experience, is the only game which you can spend countless hours grinding for a item you really want, but not get it. Gw2 is a great game but the RNG and lack of options to obtain certain armor/weaps is really depressing. I dont know if its because NCsoft wanted it this way so people buy more gems or what, but this really needs to change.

I just want to know what u want to get that u say u cant get

Precursor, Ascended armor/weaps, Foefire’s essence ( and weapons alike) from fun content not the MF.

All of those items are obtainable. Precursors are the hardest but if u save up u can get it. Your Foe fire’s Essence is easy to get. U just don’t want it hard enough. How many hours have u sink in to this game I want to know?

I am not saying its not possible to get these items. What I am saying is that to get these items. I am forced to do boring content. Unless I want to wait a year before I can afford I 500g weapon. I have over 2k hours in gw2.

If u don’t want to grind then take out your wallet. With 2k hours I’m sure u have more then enough. Sell everything in your inventory. I bet u would get at least 200g from just that along if u played since launched.

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Posted by: Jski.6180

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This has nothing to do with the speed of obtaining something. It is the way the items r obtained. I dont know what ppl dont understand about this.

So you just want to get away from gold as a money system and use a different type of money? I do not see the point.

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Posted by: Azreell.1568

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This has nothing to do with the speed of obtaining something. It is the way the items r obtained. I dont know what ppl dont understand about this.

So you just want to get away from gold as a money system and use a different type of money? I do not see the point.

Read my prior response to if you do not understand the issue.

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Posted by: Beast Sos.1457

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Unless I want to wait a year before I can afford I 500g weapon. I have over 2k hours in gw2.

According to you you have a bunch of items and gold:

I have 2 legendarie weapons, a bunch of items and gold. .

So cash in and get what you want.

That is not the point of this post. It isnt about me. It is about the game in general. This is a huge flaw in the game, imo, and should be changed.

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Unless I want to wait a year before I can afford I 500g weapon. I have over 2k hours in gw2.

According to you you have a bunch of items and gold:

I have 2 legendarie weapons, a bunch of items and gold. .

So cash in and get what you want.

That is not the point of this post. It isnt about me. It is about the game in general. This is a huge flaw in the game, imo, and should be changed.

Sorry I have a hard time taking someone serious that boasts multiple legendaries, items, and gold and then complains about not being able to get items.

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Posted by: Beast Sos.1457

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This has nothing to do with the speed of obtaining something. It is the way the items r obtained. I dont know what ppl dont understand about this.

So you just want to get away from gold as a money system and use a different type of money? I do not see the point.

Clearly gold is not the only currency in the game. For example, pristine fractal relics can be used for Ascended armor/weaps.

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Posted by: Jski.6180

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This has nothing to do with the speed of obtaining something. It is the way the items r obtained. I dont know what ppl dont understand about this.

So you just want to get away from gold as a money system and use a different type of money? I do not see the point.

Read my prior response to if you do not understand the issue.

So your not getting my point at all i am saying a money system IS a token system your just more restricted in a token system on what you can buy then say a REAL money system (gold what it called in this game) to buy your items. What you should be asking for is to have more items that are on a RNG to be sell-able.

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Posted by: Azreell.1568

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Unless I want to wait a year before I can afford I 500g weapon. I have over 2k hours in gw2.

According to you you have a bunch of items and gold:

I have 2 legendarie weapons, a bunch of items and gold. .

So cash in and get what you want.

That is not the point of this post. It isnt about me. It is about the game in general. This is a huge flaw in the game, imo, and should be changed.

Sorry I have a hard time taking someone serious that boasts multiple legendaries, items, and gold when they complain about not being able to get items.

If he has enough disposable income he can have multiple legendarys in less then 5 minutes.

For the rest of us – It is a completely different story.

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Posted by: Xae Isareth.1364

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You must be new to video games…

Well this is more about MMO games, not games in general. I played a couple MMOs and whenever I wanted something in them I would be able to get it. It wasnt dependant on my luck but on my effort/time spent.

MMO even rpgs are just like that unless they are the super easy hit one button receive bacon type games. You just make of grown up with the free items games. GW2 is a very low grind game there are games out there that have a mob that only pops every 2hr has a .005% chase to drop an item AND can only be taged by one person and or one group. There even worst mobs that only pop. every 72hr with a chase to be a super version that only drop “good” items in that super version. You have no ideal what real RNG is or what real grind is.

Gw2 is not a very low grind game.

It borders on being one of the most grindy games on the market atm.

Think that idea has been proven in multiple threads below.

If you want to talk about low drop rates:

Player research into the chance of receiving a precursor when combining four exotic weapons of the same type estimates the probability at 0.79% with 2901 trials.

The chance to receive a precursor out of a bag/box is much lower.

It really depends on what you regard as grind. I tend to regard things as grind when its repetitive and boring, as well as necessary to progress in the game.

In the case of precursors, its not exactly repetitive since you directly get it by basically doing whatever you want until it just drops, and it certainly isn’t necessary to progress to anywhere in the game.

What it is is an ‘extra’. You don’t need it, but its there in case you want to get an item you can show off.

Plus, we’ll be able to craft them soon anyways.

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Posted by: IVIUIEI.9631

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I have been playing with game since BWE1, I have 2 legendarie weapons, a bunch of items and gold. .

Yet you are complaining about not being able to get items. Haha you’re funny.

I am not complain about not getting items, its about how you get the items. It pure farm gold buy matts its not like your doing, lets say, 10 Dynamic events on each map, collecting a certain token. After you have done that, you combine all tokens and get a item on the lvl of Volcanus. This is just a example, im not saying that how it should work.

So are saying Anet should just hand everyone a cool item just because u grind for a certain amount of time? What’s the point of the game if everyone has the same item and pol who don’t work hard gets the same s…t as u do

You clearly do not understand what I am trying to get to. This is about not wanting to spend time grinding for a item. It is about what you have to do to obtain a item. Its not like I can grind fractals and get a Ascended armor set, or I cant run a set amount of dungeons for Foefire’s essence or do a chain of difficult quest to get a precursor.

Of u don’t want to spend time grinding for an item then just don’t get that item period. This is Guild Wars and if this is how they set the rules of getting a cool and if u want it then follow the steps.

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Posted by: Azreell.1568

Azreell.1568

This has nothing to do with the speed of obtaining something. It is the way the items r obtained. I dont know what ppl dont understand about this.

So you just want to get away from gold as a money system and use a different type of money? I do not see the point.

Read my prior response to if you do not understand the issue.

So your not getting my point at all i am saying a money system IS a token system your just more restricted in a token system on what you can buy then say a REAL money system (gold what it called in this game) to buy your items. What you should be asking for is to have more items that are on a RNG to be sell-able.

You will have to excuse me I am not comfortable with your token system

Also, the token system you mention is controlled by Anet which is understandable since that is how they make their revenue.

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Posted by: Beast Sos.1457

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I have been playing with game since BWE1, I have 2 legendarie weapons, a bunch of items and gold. .

Yet you are complaining about not being able to get items. Haha you’re funny.

I am not complain about not getting items, its about how you get the items. It pure farm gold buy matts its not like your doing, lets say, 10 Dynamic events on each map, collecting a certain token. After you have done that, you combine all tokens and get a item on the lvl of Volcanus. This is just a example, im not saying that how it should work.

So are saying Anet should just hand everyone a cool item just because u grind for a certain amount of time? What’s the point of the game if everyone has the same item and pol who don’t work hard gets the same s…t as u do

You clearly do not understand what I am trying to get to. This is about not wanting to spend time grinding for a item. It is about what you have to do to obtain a item. Its not like I can grind fractals and get a Ascended armor set, or I cant run a set amount of dungeons for Foefire’s essence or do a chain of difficult quest to get a precursor.

Of u don’t want to spend time grinding for an item then just don’t get that item period. This is Guild Wars and if this is how they set the rules of getting a cool and if u want it then follow the steps.

Lmfao are you not reading what im saying? I said its not about not spending time its about what you are doing in that time being spent.

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Posted by: JustTrogdor.7892

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Unless I want to wait a year before I can afford I 500g weapon. I have over 2k hours in gw2.

According to you you have a bunch of items and gold:

I have 2 legendarie weapons, a bunch of items and gold. .

So cash in and get what you want.

That is not the point of this post. It isnt about me. It is about the game in general. This is a huge flaw in the game, imo, and should be changed.

Sorry I have a hard time taking someone serious that boasts multiple legendaries, items, and gold when they complain about not being able to get items.

If he has enough disposable income he can have multiple legendarys in less then 5 minutes.

For the rest of us – It is a completely different story.

If that is the case then he shouldn’t be complaining about grind should he?

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Posted by: IVIUIEI.9631

IVIUIEI.9631

I have been playing with game since BWE1, I have 2 legendarie weapons, a bunch of items and gold. .

Yet you are complaining about not being able to get items. Haha you’re funny.

I am not complain about not getting items, its about how you get the items. It pure farm gold buy matts its not like your doing, lets say, 10 Dynamic events on each map, collecting a certain token. After you have done that, you combine all tokens and get a item on the lvl of Volcanus. This is just a example, im not saying that how it should work.

So are saying Anet should just hand everyone a cool item just because u grind for a certain amount of time? What’s the point of the game if everyone has the same item and pol who don’t work hard gets the same s…t as u do

What’s the point in playing a game you have .76% chance in 2109 tries of getting something you desire aka a precursor.

What’s the point of playing a game in which you kill one of the hardest bosses in game 80 time’s (Teq) and open all 80 bags and receive nothing but blues and greens.

See the point?

That’s y it’s call RNG doesn’t matter if u kill it a million times if it’s RNG then it’s rng. You’re expecting too much

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Posted by: Beast Sos.1457

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This has nothing to do with the speed of obtaining something. It is the way the items r obtained. I dont know what ppl dont understand about this.

So you just want to get away from gold as a money system and use a different type of money? I do not see the point.

Read my prior response to if you do not understand the issue.

So your not getting my point at all i am saying a money system IS a token system your just more restricted in a token system on what you can buy then say a REAL money system (gold what it called in this game) to buy your items. What you should be asking for is to have more items that are on a RNG to be sell-able.

You will have to excuse me I am not comfortable with your token system

Also, the token system you mention is controlled by Anet which is understandable since that is how they make their revenue.

It doesn’t have to be a token system. It was just a exmaple. Any other system would work if implemented right.