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Posted by: Devildoc.6721

Devildoc.6721

If we want to play whatever we want on bells there’s plenty of options outside of the bell choir activity now. Getting ported into instances of the minigame that are in free play mode is frustrating and wastes time going through 3-4 loading screens to try for another instance. The game is OVER at the point free play starts and people just leave, which ports other people wanting to join a map into this dying map with no purpose.

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Posted by: Agemnon.4608

Agemnon.4608

Sorry, the ship has sailed. Otherwise I agree in theory (should never have wen’t FtP) but in practice backsies on such decisions would be controversial and generate negative feelings in people on the other end. I can already hear cries of, “But you said I could have played for free!”

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Posted by: Joshhh.2076

Joshhh.2076

He’s talking about the minute of free play thrown in at the end of every round of bell choir, not f2p accounts.

Also, I agree with the OP.

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Posted by: Electro.4173

Electro.4173

Way to respond just based on the title instead of actually reading the post Agemnon.

I’ve always hated “free play” time during Bell Choir. Most of the time people just sit there and do nothing anyway, barring the few easily amused players who like to spam random notes like a caffeinated squirrel. Its a waste of time. I want to play songs, not sit around for a minute twiddling my thumbs. There’s already enough waiting between rounds as it is.

Heck, I don’t even think its good for players who may actually want to play random stuff on bells, since then those people have to put up with playing all the actual songs first and only get a minute of free play. No one wins, really.

Add a “free play” mode that you can pick when first entering Bell Choir from DR. That way people who do want to play random stuff can do so without a time limit, and people who just want to play the actual music can do that without putting up with losing time from free play itself.

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Posted by: Devildoc.6721

Devildoc.6721

Sorry, the ship has sailed. Otherwise I agree in theory (should never have wen’t FtP) but in practice backsies on such decisions would be controversial and generate negative feelings in people on the other end. I can already hear cries of, “But you said I could have played for free!”

You might try reading the post first next time.

Zapp – 80 Asura Afromancer

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Posted by: Devildoc.6721

Devildoc.6721

Way to respond just based on the title instead of actually reading the post Agemnon.

I’ve always hated “free play” time during Bell Choir. Most of the time people just sit there and do nothing anyway, barring the few easily amused players who like to spam random notes like a caffeinated squirrel. Its a waste of time. I want to play songs, not sit around for a minute twiddling my thumbs. There’s already enough waiting between rounds as it is.

Heck, I don’t even think its good for players who may actually want to play random stuff on bells, since then those people have to put up with playing all the actual songs first and only get a minute of free play. No one wins, really.

Add a “free play” mode that you can pick when first entering Bell Choir from DR. That way people who do want to play random stuff can do so without a time limit, and people who just want to play the actual music can do that without putting up with losing time from free play itself.

The thing is it’s not even just waiting around because when free play ends it kicks you back out to DR. It’s completely pointless, like you can’t even just stomach the minute and the game starts again, you get kicked out and have to try and zone into a new instance.

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Posted by: luzt.7692

luzt.7692

Agreed!!
It would be nice if it was removed.
The wait times between rounds should be shortened too.

The Choir bell that is a consumable has more notes and octaves anyways!

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Posted by: Celtic Lady.3729

Celtic Lady.3729

I’m not a fan of this, either. I wish they’d just run through the three or so songs and then get everyone out quick and begin again. lol

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Posted by: Redenaz.8631

Redenaz.8631

If we didn’t have choir bells, and extremely affordable unbreakable choir bells for that matter, I would think free play serves a purpose. As it is, however, I think it mostly just slows down rounds for people who want to play the minigame.

~The Storyteller – Elementalist – Jade Quarry~

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Posted by: Electro.4173

Electro.4173

Way to respond just based on the title instead of actually reading the post Agemnon.

I’ve always hated “free play” time during Bell Choir. Most of the time people just sit there and do nothing anyway, barring the few easily amused players who like to spam random notes like a caffeinated squirrel. Its a waste of time. I want to play songs, not sit around for a minute twiddling my thumbs. There’s already enough waiting between rounds as it is.

Heck, I don’t even think its good for players who may actually want to play random stuff on bells, since then those people have to put up with playing all the actual songs first and only get a minute of free play. No one wins, really.

Add a “free play” mode that you can pick when first entering Bell Choir from DR. That way people who do want to play random stuff can do so without a time limit, and people who just want to play the actual music can do that without putting up with losing time from free play itself.

The thing is it’s not even just waiting around because when free play ends it kicks you back out to DR. It’s completely pointless, like you can’t even just stomach the minute and the game starts again, you get kicked out and have to try and zone into a new instance.

Maybe I’m misunderstanding your post, but if you’re getting kicked out to DR between every round then something is wrong. Maybe you’re getting hit with the AFK timer or something or having some sort of bug, I dunno. Either way, I just played a half dozen rounds of Bell Choir back-to-back just fine. You just have to stick around until free play ends, then wait another 15 or so seconds as the scoreboard comes up before the game shuts that round down and starts a new one.

It may seem faster to just exit out of the instance and try to enter a new one instead of waiting, but between load times and getting into instances that are already close to ending themselves… I’ve never found instance-hopping worthwhile for Bell Choir.

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Posted by: SkyFallsInThunder.8257

SkyFallsInThunder.8257

YES!

Please remove that free play period, it’s annoying and it slows things down.

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Posted by: skullmount.1758

skullmount.1758

Agree with the OP. Please remove the free play round for next years copy/paste (or even this year if its possible…). The amount of time just standing around can really add up.

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Posted by: cafard.8953

cafard.8953

Agreed, this is one of the many things that prevents Bell Choir from developing a proper competitive #esports scene. I was already lamenting the sad state of the activity last year and sadly, nothing has changed. No Pre-Made Bell Choir Bands, no leaderboards, no ranked play, no reward tracks, no new Bell, not to mention a stale meta focused on the same notes year on year…

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Posted by: Oxidia.8103

Oxidia.8103

If we want to play whatever we want on bells there’s plenty of options outside of the bell choir activity now. Getting ported into instances of the minigame that are in free play mode is frustrating and wastes time going through 3-4 loading screens to try for another instance. The game is OVER at the point free play starts and people just leave, which ports other people wanting to join a map into this dying map with no purpose.

What if I told you I play this game for more then 3 years, i have crafted 2 legendarys and sinked thousand something hours in it, I have allmost 3 wintersdays behind me and still can’t play bell choir to save my life which results quitting the minigame over and over again. But feel free to pass judgment over f2p people by all means.

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Posted by: cafard.8953

cafard.8953

If we want to play whatever we want on bells there’s plenty of options outside of the bell choir activity now. Getting ported into instances of the minigame that are in free play mode is frustrating and wastes time going through 3-4 loading screens to try for another instance. The game is OVER at the point free play starts and people just leave, which ports other people wanting to join a map into this dying map with no purpose.

What if I told you I play this game for more then 3 years, i have crafted 2 legendarys and sinked thousand something hours in it, I have allmost 3 wintersdays behind me and still can’t play bell choir to save my life which results quitting the minigame over and over again. But feel free to pass judgment over f2p people by all means.

Then he’d probably tell you that he’s not talking about f2p players, but talking about the “free play” deadtime that happens after all the songs have been played in the Bell Choir game, before it resets to a new round, and which you obviously never noticed if you haven’t completed a game over the years.

But congrats on your legendaries. ^^

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Posted by: ham.8209

ham.8209

Anet will not do that at all . for them free to play is now big . and it is all done and over and there is no use crying about it now. besides the drev,s will not even answer this post or any thing on there own forums. maybe you should try redit at lest they will see it maybe otherwise your out of luck .

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Posted by: Crimson Clouds.4853

Crimson Clouds.4853

Anet will not do that at all . for them free to play is now big . and it is all done and over and there is no use crying about it now. besides the drev,s will not even answer this post or any thing on there own forums. maybe you should try redit at lest they will see it maybe otherwise your out of luck .

You made the same mistake as Agemnon, it might be worth actually reading the OP (and the rest of the thread) before responding.

And yes, I agree with what the OP is saying! Waste of time!

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Posted by: cafard.8953

cafard.8953

Anet will not do that at all . for them free to play is now big

And another. \o/

Please people, read the post rather than hitting reply to a title. This thread has nothing to do whatsoever with F2P.

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Posted by: ham.8209

ham.8209

Anet will not do that at all . for them free to play is now big . and it is all done and over and there is no use crying about it now. besides the drev,s will not even answer this post or any thing on there own forums. maybe you should try redit at lest they will see it maybe otherwise your out of luck .

You made the same mistake as Agemnon, it might be worth actually reading the OP (and the rest of the thread) before responding.

And yes, I agree with what the OP is saying! Waste of time!

read the post fully its more or less what ever and yes it is pretty much a waste of time for topics like this anet or drev,s never read these forums posts any how

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Posted by: kuscheldrow.6415

kuscheldrow.6415

I’d rather like it if people that hit the same note more than 3 times in a row during the songs get kicked asap…
These kids hitting on the highest note during every song over and over again (what hurts in my ears!) and then even start flaming because you beg them to stop that are way worse than entering free play.

And I’ve had them several times today which really ruined my fun in the bells. Seems to be really bad this year.

Trahearne <3

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Posted by: Devildoc.6721

Devildoc.6721

Way to respond just based on the title instead of actually reading the post Agemnon.

I’ve always hated “free play” time during Bell Choir. Most of the time people just sit there and do nothing anyway, barring the few easily amused players who like to spam random notes like a caffeinated squirrel. Its a waste of time. I want to play songs, not sit around for a minute twiddling my thumbs. There’s already enough waiting between rounds as it is.

Heck, I don’t even think its good for players who may actually want to play random stuff on bells, since then those people have to put up with playing all the actual songs first and only get a minute of free play. No one wins, really.

Add a “free play” mode that you can pick when first entering Bell Choir from DR. That way people who do want to play random stuff can do so without a time limit, and people who just want to play the actual music can do that without putting up with losing time from free play itself.

The thing is it’s not even just waiting around because when free play ends it kicks you back out to DR. It’s completely pointless, like you can’t even just stomach the minute and the game starts again, you get kicked out and have to try and zone into a new instance.

Maybe I’m misunderstanding your post, but if you’re getting kicked out to DR between every round then something is wrong. Maybe you’re getting hit with the AFK timer or something or having some sort of bug, I dunno. Either way, I just played a half dozen rounds of Bell Choir back-to-back just fine. You just have to stick around until free play ends, then wait another 15 or so seconds as the scoreboard comes up before the game shuts that round down and starts a new one.

It may seem faster to just exit out of the instance and try to enter a new one instead of waiting, but between load times and getting into instances that are already close to ending themselves… I’ve never found instance-hopping worthwhile for Bell Choir.

it’s kicking me out every time I’ve tried sitting through it.

Zapp – 80 Asura Afromancer

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Posted by: Devildoc.6721

Devildoc.6721

If we want to play whatever we want on bells there’s plenty of options outside of the bell choir activity now. Getting ported into instances of the minigame that are in free play mode is frustrating and wastes time going through 3-4 loading screens to try for another instance. The game is OVER at the point free play starts and people just leave, which ports other people wanting to join a map into this dying map with no purpose.

What if I told you I play this game for more then 3 years, i have crafted 2 legendarys and sinked thousand something hours in it, I have allmost 3 wintersdays behind me and still can’t play bell choir to save my life which results quitting the minigame over and over again. But feel free to pass judgment over f2p people by all means.

Uh.. reading comprehension dude.

Nothing about F2P players, or F2P as a system. It’s all about the Free play phase of the bell choir.

Anet’s restrictions on F2P players have been one of the most thorough things I’ve seen Anet do. Every possible way I could think of where an F2P player could damage the game economy, or damage the community was covered. The result? Prices on the TP weren’t jacked up by F2P player influx (John Smith’s manipulations of the economy on the other hand..), and Map chat is still in English and I didn’t start getting bombarded with more gold spam than I already was getting from them getting stolen accounts.

Compared to many other games that have gone F2P.. I haven’t even noticed any impact of F2P players, not negatively anyway. In other games the chat is now 60% portuguese and they start harassing you in portuguese whispers if you speak English, and the economy gets hammered by F2P accounts farming gold using daily events and sending it to main accounts and more gold spam whispers.

So to Anet… A+ on your handling of a Free to Play system

C- on your design of the Free Play phase of bell choir.

Zapp – 80 Asura Afromancer

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Posted by: Kerin.9125

Kerin.9125

Agreed, this is one of the many things that prevents Bell Choir from developing a proper competitive #esports scene.

Great, if it stops yet more esports garbage in this game then leave it as it is.

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Posted by: Devildoc.6721

Devildoc.6721

Agreed, this is one of the many things that prevents Bell Choir from developing a proper competitive #esports scene.

Great, if it stops yet more esports garbage in this game then leave it as it is.

Don’t worry, even without Free Play, Bell Choir won’t be esports. The game keeps score but you don’t get anything more from winning or losing as long as you can survive the songs.

Free Play does however, interfere with normal people being able to play the minigame because as I said, people ditch the minigame as soon as the last real song ends and they get their reward, they don’t sit through free play, and then you join their now emptied instance when it’s in the free play, can’t play the minigame, and then it kicks you out to have to try for another instance.

Zapp – 80 Asura Afromancer