Guild Wars 2

You are right. It makes me think if I even want to continue to grind heirlooms for this item.

Agreed, there is certainly an inconsistency with various living story reward restrictions. For example, as mentioned by the community, one can transform into a Watchknight in a dungeon, yet they still restricted from halo/horns.

I am also highly disappointed with the prominence of the halo by comparison to the horns. To correct this, the halo height and transparency must be reduced..

I am not a big fan of flair items, but if you are going to provide something, then at least the visual should be unobstructed. Besides, calling it a halo is a bit daft. That thing is no glorious circle of light, it is more a dull golden ring. Where is the vibrant shine like the Wings of Dwayna has?

And it pops off when zoning? Makes no sense, man, makes no sense at all.

IDK why Anet puts so many location restrictions on harmless items like these so often. If it doesn’t give you an advantage in combat, stats and so on and are purely visual, I don’t see why they’re not usable everywhere.

I surmise it was an oversight — but I am concerned ANET may have washed their hands on these rewards and will leave them as-is.

Doggie.3184:

IDK why Anet puts so many location restrictions on harmless items like these so often. If it doesn’t give you an advantage in combat, stats and so on and are purely visual, I don’t see why they’re not usable everywhere.

But what if you are blinded by the radiant sheen of the halo when in pvp? Sounds like an advantage to me…..

Going that far would be bad of course. I would not want to play if everybody ran around with a glaring sun above their heads, and I doubt anyone would use them if it were so.

The radiance from the Dwayna wings however is much more what I was thinking.

Doggie.3184:

IDK why Anet puts so many location restrictions on harmless items like these so often. If it doesn’t give you an advantage in combat, stats and so on and are purely visual, I don’t see why they’re not usable everywhere.

I agree, the usage restrictions on this potion (and items like it) are completely unnecessary. Maybe it is just an oversight?

Update:

• (new) Effect is not applied to Mesmer clones. [»]
• (new) Effect is too low and too small on Asura. [»]

I thought they where potions? Don’t all potions behave that way?

Are u kidding me Anet? I’ve been losing time to gather the heirloom, but since I only play as asura, looks like a stupid effort. Seriously, did you even TESTED on asuras? kittenmit, thats ridiculous.

Yesod.5264:

I surmise it was an oversight — but I am concerned ANET may have washed their hands on these rewards and will leave them as-is.

This is most likely the case. Unless everyone continues to raise a big stink about it, Anet will probably do nothing. Think of the uproar that happened with flamekissed armor. They have to gauge the amount of upset players against the amount of work involved in fixing these issues to see if its actually worth their time. I know that sounds appalling to some, but its the harsh reality of running a business with a finite budget and limited time for employees to work on assets.

Was disappointed when I saw my horns go away after a TP.
And the sad part is that I don’t think they will ever fix this, because this is how pet works since release (for no apparent reason) and they never fixed that and in that case they even have a direct economic interest into making pet more usable.

with all these complaints, I’m starting to wonder if I should be bothered grinding heirlooms. I also was considering the horns, but after finding out that they float quite a bit above your head.. yeah meh ….

Xenon.4537:

This is most likely the case. Unless everyone continues to raise a big stink about it, Anet will probably do nothing. Think of the uproar that happened with flamekissed armor. They have to gauge the amount of upset players against the amount of work involved in fixing these issues to see if its actually worth their time. I know that sounds appalling to some, but its the harsh reality of running a business with a finite budget and limited time for employees to work on assets.

If Anet is going to operate on a fire-and-forget mindset, then they need to do more work on the front end to make sure things are right before they get thrown into a patch, and I’m pretty sure we all know that won’t be happening.

http://imgur.com/a/B7LBE

stop using imgur, upload pictures right to the forums…

Doggie.3184:

IDK why Anet puts so many location restrictions on harmless items like these so often. If it doesn’t give you an advantage in combat, stats and so on and are purely visual, I don’t see why they’re not usable everywhere.

Most likely not intentional, they probably didn’t test it out in all different parts of the game. They probably just checked the visuals (different races, armours etc.). Since the election badges do work perhaps they can just reuse that code.

such a good item implemented in a really awful way, hope for fixes

ramorambo.6701:

such a good item implemented in a really awful way, hope for fixes

Not being a gem store item hurts the possibility of this ever getting fixed. Even though it’s been made clear on the forums by players that it is in desperate need of a fix.

ramorambo.6701:

such a good item implemented in a really awful way, hope for fixes

Agreed.

In terms of the halo, I find there are too few sanctified items available in the game, while there certainly is an abundance of satanic options. A properly implemented halo will be a great addition to a growing theme.

Another thing that a 9yold game did better than its heir. Depressing.
Can’t even give shape to a decent halo…

Yesod.5264:

In terms of the halo, I find there are too few sanctified items available in the game, while there certainly is an abundance of satanic options. A properly implemented halo will be a great addition to a growing theme.

Oh man, this.

My character has this whole holy knight/paladin theme going on, but there’s so little to work with…there’s very few weapons and effects that fit the theme. I wish there was more divine/radiant type equipment in game.

I was hoping the halo was opaque. Lighting and particle effects really effects the halo, and not in a positive way.

Oh my goodness, it’s nearly invisible.
/bleh

Backward Sass.6791:

I was hoping the halo was opaque. Lighting and particle effects really effects the halo, and not in a positive way.

Pardon the ignorance, but is the left character in your attached screenshot from GW1, because its halo is absolutely stellar!

Yesod.5264:

Backward Sass.6791:

I was hoping the halo was opaque. Lighting and particle effects really effects the halo, and not in a positive way.

Pardon the ignorance, but is the left character in your attached screenshot from GW1, because its halo is absolutely stellar!

Not sure if I can mention other games on this forum, but to answer vaguely it was from another (now shut down) NCsoft game.

Other than by artistic choice, the only other reason I can think of the halo being so transparent was during testing they found it obscured more than an acceptable amount of the character, probably the character’s name.

This is the Guild Wars 1 halo. Not only did it have a golden glow but it had a trail of golden sparks coming off it when you ran (if you look at the halo you can see the edges are smeary because of the constant flow of sparks dripping from it). I was hoping this version would be like it. However I doubt they will change it, no matter how many complain. I base this opinion on the Everlasting Watchknight potion, only good for 5 minutes and then a THIRTY minute cooldown. Totally unreasonable restrictions that was not changed in spite of numerous posts complaining about it,

They’ve been making art passes on Charr dungeon armor lately. I wouldn’t say that an art pass on the Selfless/Thoughtless effects aren’t a possibility.

Looking at the GW1 halo, I wish it were more like that. Thanks for sharing!

I wouldn’t be surprised if they will soon add a better version of the halo in the gem shop!!!

Astral Projections.7320:

This is the Guild Wars 1 halo.

Jesus! Does GW1 really look that good?!

After going out of Mistform, the halo/horns/buff disapears and you need to use the item again.
Very, very annoying.

Is there any chance to make those two potions NOT disappearing with every “transformation” utility skill(since i play mostly elementalist, i’m talking about Mist Form)?

The constant need to reapply the halo/horns effect is very annoying.

Yes for the amount of efforts needed to get one the bugs and concerns are very much a let down.

I will be show of goodwill if Anet fixes this problems as suggested by many of the posts here. But given the track records of Anet I am not holding my breath.

Backward Sass.6791:

I was hoping the halo was opaque. Lighting and particle effects really effects the halo, and not in a positive way.

No City of Heroes pics! …You’ll make me cry .

Intuos.3210:

Astral Projections.7320:

This is the Guild Wars 1 halo.

Jesus! Does GW1 really look that good?!

In many ways, the fun items in Guild Wars 1 were far superior. Many items were better designed, the horns (similar to the thoughtless potion) for example were on your forehead and had smoke fuming off the bases.

In fact the whole cosmetic system was better designed. Costumes were stored by an NPC so they didn’t need to be in inventory, all of your characters could wear the same costume once bought and it could be worn in combat. Potions lasted for an hour and you could wear them in combat.

One of the things a friend and I would do was to both use the same transformation potion and then go out to an area looking identical and in a fun shape. It would be like using Quaggan tonics and being able to go into combat like that. Innocent fun impossible in this game because of the completely unnecessary restrictions this game has on fun items.

Why ANet ditched a fun system to put in and keep a rigid potion/costume system is beyond me. It makes me think they have forgotten how to have frivolous fun.

I absolutely agree with the OP. The restrictions are horribly annoying and totally ruin the experience of the items. Not to mention the Halo is solid and almost unnoticeable; I mean, really, the GW1 Halo was perfect. Just copy and paste that over to GW2 and we’ll be happy.

Yes i haven’t gotten mine yet but I sure hope these problems. I was playing with my friend he claimed he had the halo but I could never see it cause of its translucence, practically invisible!

Well… in gw1 they could do it properly…

http://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110202175727/gw_/images/f/f1/Divine_Halo_gray_side.jpg

:P

Tiny, tiny horns.. please rethink the scaling of the horns on the asura..
it’s pretty cool that they are direktly on the head.. but they are soooo tiny.. you cannot even see them form afar when fighting :/

Miss Sugarific.8471:

Well… in gw1 they could do it properly…

(Attached the screenshot.)

Count me in as another one that’s slighty disappointed with this transparent version. It’s quite confusing why they didn’t make it an opaque gold. And that’s not even getting into the problems of needing to reapply it.

I think the problem here is players seem to be under the impression this is supposed to a type of armor skin. It’s a potion, it works like other potions work.
Instead of complaining that a potion is working like a potion, what you should be asking for is armor that has a skin like these that you could wear at any time.

From the pictures, it looks as if the Thoughtless Horns are at least coming out of the Asura’s head. What’s with the horns floating in midair way ABOVE a human? This can’t be as intended… can it? Tell me they’re planning on fixing the horns so that they emerge from the head.

ShiningSquirrel.3751:

I think the problem here is players seem to be under the impression this is supposed to a type of armor skin. It’s a potion, it works like other potions work.
Instead of complaining that a potion is working like a potion, what you should be asking for is armor that has a skin like these that you could wear at any time.

In fairness, some of the aesthetic rewards have been all over the place in terms of compatibility. I can use my Flames of Kryta with tonics, for example, even if I’m a plastic spider or holiday dolyak. It would be a lot more sensible for me to be able to have a halo over my transformed head than for me to be able to hold things, but here we are. Just because it’s called a potion doesn’t really tell us anything about the mechanical workings of the item.

(I have a collection of different endless tonics, and they behave very inconsistently. Some let me roll through forms directly, some require me to become human again, etc.)

I’m disappointed that I can’t become a beautiful Celestial Toxic Krait, but, knowing how disjointed aesthetic items can be, I’m not totally surprised.

On the bright side, the halo has looked pretty great on the charr I’ve seen wearing it, so I’m planning to try it out on my norn, or hang onto it for when I eventually make a charr.

I’m also more psyched than I should be at the prospect of getting the Selfish Potion and stacking the horns on top of my Devil Horns. I think the floating horns are strange, but, as long as they’re here…

Didn’t you hear? They are releasing an armor “halo/horns” in the gem store. It will cost you 1000 gems, but will look even more impressive than the “selfless/thoughtless” potion. ;-) On a serious note…

The halo does not look 10g worth. The design looks like it was coded/made in less than a days work. The particle effects look less vibrant and lively as a halo should (bold, bright and spewing stars). The opaqueness of the halo is too clear. Honestly, I think A-Net is beginning to cut corners, in terms of looks. Ha ha. Other than that, I do enjoy them wanting to reward players for doing LS… But the halo does need some “improvements” done. :-)

I put in a post in this thread about what people want from the gem store asking for a helm, not a potion but a permanent helm, that is like the Guild Wars 1 halo. May I suggest that if you want a different, permanent version halo or horns that you also make a post there asking for this.

Here are the Guild Wars 1 Demonic Horns and Divine Halo.

Its a lot more reliability to post pic with only the effect on with out any gear or any self targeting. If you cant its coming off as if you want to fake something.