I’m tired of the ‘sex sells’ philosophy, and find it a trifle ridiculous that females get saddled with cleavage armor and chainmail bikinis while males, in the same armor type, are walls of metal. Still, it’s a preference some people have; I think they should just put a client-side option for it in, so each person can see the armor as they want.
Of course, if you want to be satirical, you could always look at it as “Women are obviously much more durable than men – look! They don’t even need armor! That one just deflected an arrow with her breasts! Let’s see a man do that with his pecs.”
Thing is there is a choice in the game already and this has been discussed milion times before the game was released.
The only thing lacking is armor equality within the same sets (not all but great portion of light armors).
You realise you’re arguing against my points that support yours?
‘At the end of the day it’s about choice. If you don’t offer a choice either way across both genders you are painting yourself into a corner’.
It means evenly distributed and equal.
A warrior, a guardian, and an elementalist walk into an open field…
The Warrior turns to the guardian and says, “Did you hear something?”
Guardian replies, “No, but how’d the elementalist die?”
Maybe ArenaNet could just make every part of the armor showing on or off, like it’s now possible for helmet and shoulders?
However, as was said before:
I want my armor to look like it does the job. Armor is not supposed to make you look sexy, it’s supposed to keep you safe.
I have more female than male characters, and I would prefer them to wear armor that looks like armor. That is, without a bikini-breast-look, what would be… sorry, but I can’t help, it would be crazy to a point exceeding idiocy. A plunging neckline is good for parties, not for the war.
I would be completely satisfied if I could give male armors to my female characters.
The number of skimpy female armors is already really high compared to the number of skimpy male armors. Yes, the male ones exist, but we’re talking about 2-3 per armor class. Compare that to more than a dozen female light armors.
Don’t get me wrong: I’m incredibly grateful that there are a couple of races where the females use male skins. That’s way better than most MMOs. But there’s still a long way to go in terms of gender equality, and more over-sexualized female skins in particular would be a step backwards.
I like my characters to be attractive. I like to put them in attractive clothing. I often feel that less is more…
Perhaps I am being premature; but several games, have had a very noisy groups of prudes. Being so vocal and outspoken they get attention, and as the level cap raised or new content was added, the female armor became more and more Concealing. I do not want that happening here!
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I don’t want female humanoids to look like blocky robots, nuns, or bigfoot.
By all means let us continue to have large and interesting shaped cleavage windows, bare midriffs, and eye high skirts! Especially in new content!
Agree or disagree?
Disagree – the amount of skin a piece of clothing is revealing is not a direct measure of how attractive/appealing the set of armour is.
I’ve seen beautiful ballgowns and ugly bikinis.
Interesting clothing textures, accessories, and ability to dye particular sections of the armour is more important.
I prefer sexy than skimpy but I also very much prefer cute over sexy.
I wish Aion team would design and model a few armor sets for GW2
Quoted for so much truth! I prefer fashionable over all else and that’s where Aion excels. It incorporates street fashion with fantasy so well and proves that you don’t need your boobs hanging out to be attractive >.>… In GW2, you’re either a walking refrigerator, swimming in trench coats, or wearing strips of material glued to your body…
Preemptive: I think Tera armor is quite garish but you have to admit they got both females and males showing similar amounts of skin. Yay for equality xD
I do like to have form fitting female clothing, and would prefer it over bulkier clothing, but I disagree on wanting skimpy/revealing clothing.
My female asuras could sure use a bit more of a feminine body, but I don’t want to reveal midriff and cleavage on them. I mostly steered clear of playing a human or norn because much of their clothing is too revealing and I don’t want to be embarrassed by my outfit. If I do happen to have a skimpy outfit, such as the human female light starting armor with the mini skirt, I quickly alter the appearance of it before running around in it, luckily I have the HOM clothing to use for that purpose.
I think a “Preference” checkbox option would be a good idea, for each item of clothing, or for the individual character, perhaps have a box that has full coverage, medium coverage, or barely there coverage. This way everyone can have equally nice things, just with varying degrees of coverage.
No one is asking for current sets to be changed (at least that is not my impression or my want), but rather more options added.
Putting up light armor have tons of skimpy is not really helping for those that play medium or heave (particular for medium which seem to be lacking options the most).
You clearly already got what you like (maybe except for some of the light users) why not give others what they like too?
I see some talk about inequality of male and female sets. I think most here agree that more options for both is win/win.
Not everyone that is asking to show skin is asking for it for the sexiness (which I agree can be argueable in cases). Some (like me) just really wanna appreciate the glow of the sylvari (back not belly, belly aint glowing), the furpattern of the charr, tattoos of the norn and skinpatterns of the asura. We spend time making these things and we to see it.
More options is good right.
Life doesn’t stop being funny just because the dead can’t laugh.
First off, don’t call people that don’t like skimpy armor prudes. One could call you a perv for liking said armors. I have no problem with skimpy or conservative armors. But I do have a problem with the “skimpy balance” between males and females. The winged set for for male humanoids is fully covered up and the female version is a bikini with some tattoos, the male masquerade armor is a fully covered suit and the female version is like a burlesque outfit. Medium armors suck for both genders but females get the infamous underboob armor. It’s freaking ridiculous and I thought Anet said that they’d focus on having skimpy AND conservative armor for everyone and they don’t and it’s pretty upsetting.
-Currently heavy armors have many skimpy and non-skimpy options for females but significantly less for males
-Medium armors have no skimpy options for males and only a few for females. All sets are mostly trenhcoats and that sucks
-Light armor females have WAY too many skimpy sets and not enough normal sets, males have way too many covered up sets and a grand total of one skimpy set (feathered)
For the most part they kind of lied about giving people more armor options and instead decided to pander to the straight male playerbase like every other game. The worst part is that they give norn, sylvari, charr, and asura cool body tattoos, glows, and patterns but male norn and sylvari and all charr and asura characters aren’t even able to appreciate it.
I disagree. Female characters often have no choice but to be scantily clad. Especially the light armor wearers, they all have huge expanses of bare skin showing in crazy ways.
If there were more options so that female characters could have their kitten hanging out all over the place or be more practically dressed then I’d be fine with the revealing clothing.
I also think male characters should have more skimpy options, since right now it seems only heavy armor wearers can show off their man nipples.
Currently heavy armors have many skimpy and non-skimpy options for females but significantly less for males
what game are you playing? I count 1 armor set compared to medium which has at least 3.
Skimpiness is relative, but the coverage of all of these female heavy armors would at the very least violate the average office dress code: pit fighter, named, barbaric, gladiator, Arah, all three order sets, all three Sylvari cultural sets, and Norn t2 and t3. Assuming, of course, you are one of the three races where female skins are actually different.
Overall, I consider it a good mix, although I wish the was a least one more practical order or cultural armor option for my Sylvari.
First time i saw one of the chicks from the order of whispers in a cut scene i screamed “Good grief look at those!!!” on skype, and i wouldn’t have it any other way…
Also i think the heavy vigil armor looks alright on females, it shows off a little skin, but you still look like a kitten.
I don’t care one way or another, I just want the male armor to be thematically the same and in the cases of the more skimpy female armors the male equivalents generally look like a completely different set….why can’t my male toons look like they’re going to Mardi Gras too?
Let us buy vendor mats (eg spools of thread) in 250 stacks, end the excessive clicking.
I don’t care one way or another, I just want the male armor to be thematically the same and in the cases of the more skimpy female armors the male equivalents generally look like a completely different set….why can’t my male toons look like they’re going to Mardi Gras too?
I want that.
I live in the bay and would LOVE to see some in-game tranny outfits..
the masquerade set is one that would have a lot of feasible entertainment value if it looked the same on men as it did on women.
I want the human female clothing to be less revealing, not more. Call me a prude all you want.
Edit: Norn is fine, because the Norn culture is all about showing off your muscles. I’m primarily talking about the human race.
There is plenty of non-revealing human female armor, except heavy, which sucks for human (incredibly generic, nothing revealing, and nothing dignified either.. just clownlike or yawn-worthy)
I really don’t like skimpy clothes. I don’t even think it is very attractive… And yes, I would like to have the opportunity to dress properly.
Having said that, I really don’t mind if other people want to dress skimpy. They can weare body paint and I wouldn’t mind. I just don’t want to be forced to do it. Therefor my biggest crunch is with the strange mini skrit of the apprentice starter outfit.
Of course, I would like to dress my character attractive, but that involves most time that most of the skin is concealed. I think kimonos are extremly attractive sets of clothing for example.
I’m all for skimpier armor options, but for both male and female.
Emphasis on the male, cause there are SO many armors that are like, giant hunks of metal. I guess I can understand that for heavy armor, but pretty much all medium armor is trenchcoats… A few skimpier medium armors would at least give more variety. Then light armor is almost entirely robes. My necro uses daggers. Robes just look odd with that. Skimpy light armor I think totally makes sense.
Plus, adding attractive new armors (and appropriate means to get said armor) might give people something ELSE to do besides grinding FotM.
In short I definitely think a lot more variety is necessary. =\ A lot of the armor currently in-game isn’t particularly unique or memorable….
I’ve experienced this on my female ranger, but don’t just a want “skimpy” it needs to be form-fitting armor with variety of styles.
While considering a light class I found there to be skimpiness for the girls yet the males are the complete opposite. Males are forced into many space suits that look multiple sizes too large and are almost exclusively covered head-to-toe in thickness.
I’ve experienced this on my female ranger, but don’t just a want “skimpy” it needs to be form-fitting armor with variety of styles.
While considering a light class I found there to be skimpiness for the girls yet the males are the complete opposite. Males are forced into many space suits that look multiple sizes too large and are almost exclusively covered head-to-toe in thickness.
The discrepancy between female and male ‘armor’ is irritating for me too. Especially when I want to dress my female chars nicely and people tell me to play a male character instead of finding a modest armor set.
There is plenty of skimpy clothing in the game, and a lot of cleavage. There are in fact a number of neat sets which provide a more practical look, except fail at the need for some gratuitous cleavage thrown in.
The OP is making the classic “we’re under attack”/victim argument. Sorry, but the societal norm is for skimpy/kittenty female clothing, and in games, armor. The skimpy/sexy/kittenty side is not some poor, oppressed minority. Revealing armor (ie any armor with at least some cleavage or thigh or belly showing) is the majority of armor.
Actually, at the time, I fancied that I was making a preemptive argument… I thought I might mimic the form of arguments used by those who often have opinions contrary to my own.
I always picture them crying, “Will someone please think of the children!” most frustrating when there are no children present. Urging people to give up their ability to express themselves in order to appease some greater good. they seem happy only when actual customization is limited to choosing colors only, and world filters are so restrictive that intelligent conversation becomes impossible.
i encountered 2 people harassing me because my engi was wearing duelist and vigil leggings combo. referred to them as “westboro inbred prudes” and they lay low.
I can see where form fitting (tight leather, spandex?) clothing would be appealing…
I think we all can agree that we have far to many " butt capes" and trench coats and that new outfits should either not have them at all, or get a hide check box, like shoulders and helms have.
It is odd that they would try to hide the posterior so obsessively…
I’m all in favour of skimpy armour, I think there’s nothing wrong with showing off a bit. Though it all depends on the character, sometimes it suits and sometimes it doesn’t. I have a variety of male and female characters, with both skimpy and non-skimpy favourite armour sets. I never felt restricted in getting the look I aim for on a particular character, I think there’s quite a good selection already. Except for medium armour that is, longcoats look great but some variety there wouldn’t hurt :-P.
In any case, more fashion options is always good!
I love how diverse heavy and light armors are, it’s really easy to mix and match either skimpy or covered; but I would like to see more variety on medium armors(not-trench-coats) and more heavy non-tin-can-helms(PvP Knight, PvE Draconic).
I’ll say it again and again, the simplest and quickest way for Anet to help us be more creative and free is to unlock the armor skins from the classes. Keep the stat’s and skins separate. Instant 300% increase in options That alone would make me happy.
That alone would make me happy.