Guild Wars 2

From the patch notes:
“Quickness/Slow: The formula for animation-speed increases and decreases has been modified. Quickness is normalized to behave the same as before, while Slow has had its effectiveness reduced. However, due to the formula change, Slow will continue to have a negative impact while Quickness is in effect.”

Let me get this straight:

• I use my quickness and I have slow on me, if the NORMAL skill cast is 10 seconds, then the skill cast with quickness and slow is 11.66 seconds?

In what universe do you live?
The least you can do is negate quickness with slow, bring back the old system.

The current system negates quickness AND on top of that it also slows down your skills.

Eh, slow is a heavily restricted condition as it is. I don’t think it needs to be nerfed by having quickness completely negate it.

Base on simple balancing scale, slow indeed is overpowering quickness thus the new formula is questionable.

Hitman.5829:

Let me get this straight:
The current system negates quickness AND on top of that it also slows down your skills.

“Slow will continue to have a negative impact while Quickness is in effect.”

What other negative effect did you think they meant?

With the massive availability of Quickness and the limited availability of Slow, I don’t think this is that big of an issue.

OriOri.8724:

Eh, slow is a heavily restricted condition as it is. I don’t think it needs to be nerfed by having quickness completely negate it.

Actually it is the other way around, slow completely negates quickness and on top of that puts your skills on a higher cooldown. Hence my complain.

Hitman.5829:

The current system negates quickness AND on top of that it also slows down your skills.

I don’t see a problem with that … Why is it unreasonable that slow increase your skill coolddowns? It SHOULD have an effect beyond negating quickness, otherwise it’s a stupid skill. A skill like you describe has almost no point existing in this game.

Hitman.5829:

OriOri.8724:

Eh, slow is a heavily restricted condition as it is. I don’t think it needs to be nerfed by having quickness completely negate it.

Actually it is the other way around, slow completely negates quickness and on top of that puts your skills on a higher cooldown. Hence my complain.

I’m well aware of how slow works currently, and its fine honestly. Its a very rare condition.

Which patch notes? I don’t see any such change for today.

DeanBB.4268:

Which patch notes? I don’t see any such change for today.

Looks like the OP is quoting patch notes from almost exactly 1 year ago.

Skittish.4539:

DeanBB.4268:

Which patch notes? I don’t see any such change for today.

Looks like the OP is quoting patch notes from almost exactly 1 year ago.

LUL what ?!?!?

And why exactly should slow completely overpower quickness?

zealex.9410:

Skittish.4539:

DeanBB.4268:

Which patch notes? I don’t see any such change for today.

Looks like the OP is quoting patch notes from almost exactly 1 year ago.

LUL what ?!?!?

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/info/updates/Game-Update-Notes-April-19-2016/first#post6102561

Note that 2016 is not 2017.

zealex.9410:

And why exactly should slow completely overpower quickness?

Because quickness is a more common and slow is less common.

Skittish.4539:

zealex.9410:

Skittish.4539:

DeanBB.4268:

Which patch notes? I don’t see any such change for today.

Looks like the OP is quoting patch notes from almost exactly 1 year ago.

LUL what ?!?!?

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/info/updates/Game-Update-Notes-April-19-2016/first#post6102561

Note that 2016 is not 2017.

zealex.9410:

And why exactly should slow completely overpower quickness?

Because quickness is a more common and slow is less common.

not completely overpower quickness* sorry missed a word there thanks for the link doe

Skittish.4539:

zealex.9410:

Skittish.4539:

DeanBB.4268:

Which patch notes? I don’t see any such change for today.

Looks like the OP is quoting patch notes from almost exactly 1 year ago.

LUL what ?!?!?

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/info/updates/Game-Update-Notes-April-19-2016/first#post6102561

Note that 2016 is not 2017.

zealex.9410:

And why exactly should slow completely overpower quickness?

Because quickness is a more common and slow is less common.

This argument is absurd, by that logic then we should also claim that:

• Reveal should last for 10 seconds because stealth is more common and reveal is not.

… but reveal does overpower stealth and on top of that prevent future stealth applications until it expires.

Hitman.5829:

Skittish.4539:

zealex.9410:

Skittish.4539:

DeanBB.4268:

Which patch notes? I don’t see any such change for today.

Looks like the OP is quoting patch notes from almost exactly 1 year ago.

LUL what ?!?!?

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/info/updates/Game-Update-Notes-April-19-2016/first#post6102561

Note that 2016 is not 2017.

zealex.9410:

And why exactly should slow completely overpower quickness?

Because quickness is a more common and slow is less common.

This argument is absurd, by that logic then we should also claim that:

• Reveal should last for 10 seconds because stealth is more common and reveal is not.

I mean an argument could be made for skills that cause revealed to cause more reveal than they do (not that I agree with that), but considering that you are revealed whenever you attack in stealth, Reveal has at least as much access as stealth does, since everytime you are stealthed you can choose to reveal yourself.

Hitman.5829:

Skittish.4539:

zealex.9410:

Skittish.4539:

DeanBB.4268:

Which patch notes? I don’t see any such change for today.

Looks like the OP is quoting patch notes from almost exactly 1 year ago.

LUL what ?!?!?

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/info/updates/Game-Update-Notes-April-19-2016/first#post6102561

Note that 2016 is not 2017.

zealex.9410:

And why exactly should slow completely overpower quickness?

Because quickness is a more common and slow is less common.

This argument is absurd, by that logic then we should also claim that:

• Reveal should last for 10 seconds because stealth is more common and reveal is not.

Sure, go ahead and claim that. No one is stopping you.

Edit: Although the length of reveal isn’t the only thing that could overpower stealth. More classes have reveal than have stealth. Plus, as mentioned above, you can’t attack while in stealth. While reveal can be thrown into your normal rotation without slowing down your attacks at all.

Hitman.5829:

Skittish.4539:

zealex.9410:

Skittish.4539:

DeanBB.4268:

Which patch notes? I don’t see any such change for today.

Looks like the OP is quoting patch notes from almost exactly 1 year ago.

LUL what ?!?!?

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/info/updates/Game-Update-Notes-April-19-2016/first#post6102561

Note that 2016 is not 2017.

zealex.9410:

And why exactly should slow completely overpower quickness?

Because quickness is a more common and slow is less common.

This argument is absurd, by that logic then we should also claim that:

• Reveal should last for 10 seconds because stealth is more common and reveal is not.

Absurd or not, you still haven’t presented us with a reason for why Slow shouldn’t overpower and provide benefits beyond negating quickness….