Guild Wars 2

So leveling up and doing dungeons (besides gold and bags) became pretty next to useless. Grinded 750 bags from SE, opened them and got 64 Spirit Shards, woopdiedoo.
If I would go for a Legendary, this would require me ~450 Spirit Shards / 64 = 7.05 × 750 = 5.287 Champion Bags.
And Yes, I may have been unlucky, but the drop rate of them is kinda complete sh*t!

I think they should:
1. Raise the drop rate out of Champion Bags.
2. Raise the drop rate from mobs.
3. Reward 1-3 Spirit Shards for completing Dungeons/Fractals
4. Reward 1 Spirit Shard (+1 Mastery Point when HoT is out) for Leveling up

you get three for doing three dailies per day.

Sephas.8793:

you get three for doing three dailies per day.

Sadly you still need ~450 to make a Legendary and 120 for 1 Ascended Armor Set

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Spirit_Shard

Lots of sources.

Tijgertje.7461:

Sephas.8793:

you get three for doing three dailies per day.

Sadly you still need ~450 to make a Legendary and 120 for 1 Ascended Armor Set

Dude if you can’t even bother to get some spirit shard I don’t know what to tell you. Maybe you are too lazy to have a legendary? It’s already so freaking easy to get, that it’s almost meaningless.

Well, it’s not like you rack up tons of kills in dungeons, especially since most people skip trash. Try killing mobs in greater numbers or gasp kill things outside of dungeons.

Tijgertje.7461:

So leveling up and doing dungeons (besides gold and bags) became pretty next to useless. Grinded 750 bags from SE, opened them and got 64 Spirit Shards, woopdiedoo.
If I would go for a Legendary, this would require me ~450 Spirit Shards / 64 = 7.05 × 750 = 5.287 Champion Bags.
And Yes, I may have been unlucky, but the drop rate of them is kinda complete sh*t!

I think they should:
1. Raise the drop rate out of Champion Bags.
2. Raise the drop rate from mobs.
3. Reward 1-3 Spirit Shards for completing Dungeons/Fractals
4. Reward 1 Spirit Shard (+1 Mastery Point when HoT is out) for Leveling up

You must be really unlucky, I use 100 about this time last week, right now I have over 450+ , I’ve mostly been playing PvP. So I don’t know if that makes any sort of difference.

If ANet expected people to earn enough to make a legendary in a month or Ascended gear in a week, then sure, the acquisition rate for spirit shards feels anemic. If you recall that the devs expect that we will build slowly towards luxury gear, then spirit shards are dropping perhaps a bit too easily.

In other words, this is entirely a matter of perspective. The OP doesn’t have shards saved up and wants to make a legendary now; most of those responding can’t spend shards as fast as they earn them. It’s my guess that this is no accident.

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

If ANet expected people to earn enough to make a legendary in a month or Ascended gear in a week, then sure, the acquisition rate for spirit shards feels anemic. If you recall that the devs expect that we will build slowly towards luxury gear, then spirit shards are dropping perhaps a bit too easily.

And dont have 10hrs a day to do PvE

In other words, this is entirely a matter of perspective. The OP doesn’t have shards saved up and wants to make a legendary now; most of those responding can’t spend shards as fast as they earn them. It’s my guess that this is no accident.

I have the Ascendeds already, just a point of changing the stats, spending 10 each time kinda hurts when you get 3 a day, and you get next to nothing because WvW is not rewarding

Behellagh.1468:

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Spirit_Shard

Lots of sources.

Lots of sources, freaking Champion bags and unfair rates in FOTM

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

In other words, this is entirely a matter of perspective. The OP doesn’t have shards saved up and wants to make a legendary now; most of those responding can’t spend shards as fast as they earn them. It’s my guess that this is no accident.

Yep.. now I am hoarding mine.. I was down to 0 just after the patch when I finished a legendary, and I’m currently at ~150 (after converting 2 ascended armor sets and a few weapons). So it’s not ridiculously hard to acquire them, but not getting them on level up slowed it down a lot for me, as I mainly WvW and do dungeons, where you level often.

Now I have a daily regime of:
-Do [at least] the PvP daily (reward track gives tomes = shards)
-Do any daily that rewards the Writ of Exp (20 = 1 tome = 1 spirit shard)
-Do any daily that rewards a tome
-KILL EVERYTHING when I’m out doing world bosses or whatever. It’s not a super high drop rate, but they do drop

And don’t forget you can use fractal relics to purchase Dessa’s journal. Though I’m loathe to do that with the fractal reward changes coming (cat golem minis!)

Anyway, my beef is with the fact that leveling past 80 is currently giving us NOTHING. They could have waited til HoT to take that away (IIRC we will get one hero point for leveling past 80, and they could have just swapped the rewards at that time).

absolutely disagree the drop rate is fine, if anything silverwastes is kinda OP and hurting the economy with excess floods of champion bags and we should probably nerf it

Duke Nukem.6783:

absolutely disagree the drop rate is fine, if anything silverwastes is kinda OP and hurting the economy with excess floods of champion bags and we should probably nerf it

I prefer the “farmers” have this own chest farming map. Take it away and they’ll just flock somewhere else that annoys new players or people who are actually trying to play the game/finish events.

Tijgertje.7461:

So leveling up and doing dungeons (besides gold and bags) became pretty next to useless. Grinded 750 bags from SE, opened them and got 64 Spirit Shards, woopdiedoo.
If I would go for a Legendary, this would require me ~450 Spirit Shards / 64 = 7.05 × 750 = 5.287 Champion Bags.
And Yes, I may have been unlucky, but the drop rate of them is kinda complete sh*t!

I think they should:
1. Raise the drop rate out of Champion Bags.
2. Raise the drop rate from mobs.
3. Reward 1-3 Spirit Shards for completing Dungeons/Fractals
4. Reward 1 Spirit Shard (+1 Mastery Point when HoT is out) for Leveling up

Don’t worry, you’re jsut starting, and this is an MMORPG. Get max level then let it flow. You will have far more spirit shards then you can spend, guaranteed. Am sitting at around 1k give or take if I actually decide to use them or not.

I’m sitting on over 2k of them just because of how many extra points I had on my main characters, plus the two stacks of skill point scrolls. And that’s after buying one or two eldritch scrolls and augurs stones.

As was said above, it’s meant to take a little time to get enough shards (if you’re starting from 0 of them, especially).

Is that actually data or made up number. Since I remembered roughly getting 46 from 250 bags a while ago.

If I farm more bags, I’ll put more data.

And I think the average for legendary is 350 not 450. So unless you are very unlucky, and maybe you are, you shouldn’t need 450.

edit: I only have 68 bags. Opened those and got 11. I can’t find any recent data on youtube except people saying the number didn’t change much. My experience is the number havn’t change. Your number seems off. Try confirming with other farmers.

I don’t get spirit shards, I got 1800 just sitting there and not sure what I’m meant to do with them…

sephiroth.4217:

I don’t get spirit shards, I got 1800 just sitting there and not sure what I’m meant to do with them…

• Promote various mats, for profit or personal use (e.g. in legendaries).
• Forging mystic clovers.
• Crafting Ascended weapons.
• Forge various special weapons, e.g. Courage
• Saving them for some future use that some of the community are expecting to see in HoT.
• Check the wiki’s article on Spirit Shards details.

I do not think spirit shards are a problem, but then again, i have 9000 of them from converted skill points so i wouldn’t know.

You do know you can use a tome of knowledge to get 1 spirit shard, right?
You do know that by doing 3 dailies, you get 3 spirit shards, right?
If you hate the drop rate, then go for these certain rewards.
Also, with the expansion, they’ll revamp the legendary crafting, probably making it easier, or more pleasant to go trough

I have over 1000 of these in my wallet right now, no idea from what.

You’ll be fine.

I agree with the OP. I’m down to 2359 spirit shards and I’m starting to panic.

superveemon.6738:

Also, with the expansion, they’ll revamp the legendary crafting, probably making it easier, or more pleasant to go trough

Indeed. By then you’ll only need shards to craft the ascended equipment that you’ll salvage for a chance of legendary crafting mats. :p

Its at least frustrating that at the moment we simply get nothing at all for level ups.

Since i dont do fractals i get maybe now 3 shards every second day .. and oh yes so
far i had already TWO shard dropped from mobs since the patch.
Before it was maybe 10 each day from level ups ..

Oh and Legendary crafting in expansion .. you know that you will have to
salvage ascended stuff there ? So you have maybe to craft even ascended
weapons and armor to salvage them.

I had over 2300 in my wallet, now I have lost some… i’m at 1823 now, biggest problem seems to be they aren’t given on each full xp bar nowadays.. I used up 500 in a month, and i didn’t make a legendary…, ( changed 10+ ascecndeds 100, crafted 10 ascendeds) that’s 300+ shards…

Had a tad over 20k skill points this time last year, money making and Legendaries happened and now I have a few hundred left. Best advice I can give you from someone in a similar position is to smash out SW Chest Farms for a couple hours a night, I leech from an organized guild and get around 300 bags in that time which works out at maybe 50-70 spirit shards a night on top of all the Obsidian Shards/ whatever you may need.

superveemon.6738:

You do know you can use a tome of knowledge to get 1 spirit shard, right?
You do know that by doing 3 dailies, you get 3 spirit shards, right?
If you hate the drop rate, then go for these certain rewards.
Also, with the expansion, they’ll revamp the legendary crafting, probably making it easier, or more pleasant to go trough

The old legendaries should remain the same, crafting is for new skins.
As for the new skins, I hope they will take 2-3x more time/effort/resources to make. I dont want everyone to have 3 of them in first 6 months. Nobody does.

I have crafted 4 legendary weapons and always had 1k+ spirit shard. They’re so easy to obtain that I sometimes forget it’s a part of the crafting process. Unless you’re converting gems to gold for a legendary, you should obtain more than enough along the way.

Eh I have 187 spirit shards and need another 10,400 for the rest of the ascended armors/weapons, mystic forge recipes, and preparations for the HoT legendaries . ..

Would at least like it if leveling up gave a spirit shard until the new mastery system comes out.

I just reached 20k shards what i will never use. You are in mmo wanting everything fast isnt good aproach

SW drops champ bags like crazy, each has a chance to drop spirit shards along with other crafting components for legendaries and ascended items. So yeah, go grind SW.

Enko.6123:

Eh I have 187 spirit shards and need another 10,400 for the rest of the ascended armors/weapons, mystic forge recipes, and preparations for the HoT legendaries . ..

Would at least like it if leveling up gave a spirit shard until the new mastery system comes out.

10,400? That seems like 4-5 times the amount you might need, unless you just bought your account (in which case, I wouldn’t think there’s that much of a rush).

I decided to open my 583 champ bags last night. I got roughly 70-ish spirit shards out of those. Yeahhhhh. Please increase the drop rates or something. Jeeze.

OP didn’t farm skill point challenges before the changes to hero point ?

Lots of ignorance in this thread. You know … if you do something OTHER than camp champ bags, Spirit shards isn’t a problem. In fact, maybe that’s the whole POINT of not being showered with spirit shards opening Champ bags … think of that?

The whole thread smells of ‘want it now’.

Tijgertje.7461:

Sephas.8793:

you get three for doing three dailies per day.

Sadly you still need ~450 to make a Legendary and 120 for 1 Ascended Armor Set

And? Those things aren’t designed for you to get them fast so I’m thinking … 3 a day is more than reasonable for a daily + whatever you get from bags/playing. Besides, you aren’t gear locked, so there is no argument to be made around how long it takes to get shards to make gear.

I agree with the OP.

Most of you managed to horde up larger numbers due to playing the game longer and under a more generous system while newer players are struggling.

Its not about “I want it now” its about not making things “more difficult” for the “new player” And mocking the OP by bragging about your large sums of SS is pretty hypocritical when you had it easier to begin with….

Kamara.4187:

I agree with the OP.

Most of you managed to horde up larger numbers due to playing the game longer and under a more generous system while newer players are struggling.

Its not about “I want it now” its about not making things more difficult for the new player.

I second that – or for people like me who like to run around and farm nodes. Would be nice if nodes had a 0,0X% chance of dropping a spirit shard. I kind of feel forced to run champ trains.

Jana.6831:

Kamara.4187:

I agree with the OP.

Most of you managed to horde up larger numbers due to playing the game longer and under a more generous system while newer players are struggling.

Its not about “I want it now” its about not making things more difficult for the new player.

I second that – or for people like me who like to run around and farm nodes. Would be nice if nodes had a 0,0X% chance of dropping a spirit shard. I kind of feel forced to run champ trains.

The problem is it was originally harder to get world complete, dungeon tokens and the gift of battle as well as tier 6 mats and obsidian shards. So new players have one thing harder and half a dozen things easier.

New players complaining about how difficult it is to get a legendary are not looking at the bigger picture.

Vayne.8563:

The problem is it was originally harder to get world complete, dungeon tokens and the gift of battle as well as tier 6 mats and obsidian shards. So new players have one thing harder and half a dozen things easier.

New players complaining about how difficult it is to get a legendary are not looking at the bigger picture.

I’m doing wvw “24/7”, so map completion never really was a problem for me, except the first time, but that was when I started wvw.
I have been to the silver wastes maybe 3 times, I probably will never again get there.
World Boss trains bore me to death (although I’m doing them from time to time if I need ectos)
Champ trains bore me to death.
For me it’s harder to get spirit shards and just as difficult to get map completion or T6 mats.
Oh and I get my dungeon tokens by doing dungeons.

Vayne.8563:

Jana.6831:

Kamara.4187:

I agree with the OP.

Most of you managed to horde up larger numbers due to playing the game longer and under a more generous system while newer players are struggling.

Its not about “I want it now” its about not making things more difficult for the new player.

I second that – or for people like me who like to run around and farm nodes. Would be nice if nodes had a 0,0X% chance of dropping a spirit shard. I kind of feel forced to run champ trains.

The problem is it was originally harder to get world complete, dungeon tokens and the gift of battle as well as tier 6 mats and obsidian shards. So new players have one thing harder and half a dozen things easier.

New players complaining about how difficult it is to get a legendary are not looking at the bigger picture.

I’m talking about spirit shards. The OP may have been focused on spirit shards for a legendary (which I could have purchased out-right “as a starting player” on the TP if I had wanted one that bad). Spirit shards are more than just for legendary weapons.

I don’t know how people get all those money without getting champ bag.

You can aim for 6 spirits shard a day which take just daily and farming 18 champ bag. And you can get a legendary in 60 days.

laokoko.7403:

You can aim for 6 spirits shard a day which take just daily and farming 18 champ bag. And you can get a legendary in 60 days.

Exactly.

And if not, 120 days in you’ll have the same amount. It’s really not all that slow to acquire. -.-

Carighan.6758:

laokoko.7403:

You can aim for 6 spirits shard a day which take just daily and farming 18 champ bag. And you can get a legendary in 60 days.

Exactly.

And if not, 120 days in you’ll have the same amount. It’s really not all that slow to acquire. -.-

I guess it is more difficult for people who are relatively new to the game. After the skill point to shard conversion I have over 3K shards. But I have noticed that shards seem quite hard to come by.

You can gain crazy spirit shards from sw. All those goodie bags yielded me 20+ for 3 runs of sw. Starting from 30-50% then daily for 7 days is a further 21.

It’s not that difficult. Yes more difficult than say a fresh character and just running skills challenges but I ashume that’s not how anet want you to grind them….

It’s pretty illogical that obsidian shards are becoming less rare than spirit shards/sps, I get something like 90 shards for 2 hours of SW and half of that in spirit shards.

I should’ve farmed more skill points… today we’re levelling and gaining NOTHING. Nicely done, ANet.

They drop off random trash mobs now. Skill scrolls never used to do that. If it becomes a real problem they can simply change the drop rate.

Jana.6831:

Vayne.8563:

The problem is it was originally harder to get world complete, dungeon tokens and the gift of battle as well as tier 6 mats and obsidian shards. So new players have one thing harder and half a dozen things easier.

New players complaining about how difficult it is to get a legendary are not looking at the bigger picture.

I’m doing wvw “24/7”, so map completion never really was a problem for me, except the first time, but that was when I started wvw.
I have been to the silver wastes maybe 3 times, I probably will never again get there.
World Boss trains bore me to death (although I’m doing them from time to time if I need ectos)
Champ trains bore me to death.
For me it’s harder to get spirit shards and just as difficult to get map completion or T6 mats.
Oh and I get my dungeon tokens by doing dungeons.

But there was no option to to get dungeon tokens when we started than doing dungeons, which not everyone does or even can do. Now you can get them by PvPing or even standing around in a PvP daily room if you’d rather do that. Slow but doable.

Map completion for most people, yes I said most, is easier without having to worry about WvW map completion. That is to say, you used to HAVE TO go into WvW and that means you had to do 4 extra maps for map completion. Sometimes one of the points if interest was in a tower that wasn’t your color and you’d have to wait a month or even more before you changed color and could get that point. We don’t have to do that anymore. Also badges of honor now come from achievement rewards. When I did my first legendary I had to WvW to get those achievements. Not to mention getting rank is easier for some people following a commander in EoTm than in WvW proper.

We didn’t get laurels quite as fast so we didn’t get T6 mats quite as fast in the beginning. In fact, back in the beginning there were no champ bags, no daily rewards, and even laurels didn’t exist. If you wanted T6 mats you had to farm and buy them. And dungeons back then didn’t give you 1 gold for running them or champ bags.

What I hear is that I’m playing one single aspect of the game, and so I’m limited. I can pretty much guarantee you far more people want to avoid WvW than want to avoid PvE.

Edit: Oh and Obby shards were ONLY available from the Great Temple of Balthazar, and only for Karma back then. But it was before the mega server and we had to wait to cap that temple and if we missed it, sometimes it would be days, if not weeks before we could get an open one. You might not remember people posting threads begging to be notified of an open Temple of Balthazar or it not being open on any server, but I remember those threads.

In fact, I have six legendaries and they’ve become easier and easier to get.

Vayne.8563:

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Please try to get my point, ok?
It’s great if obtaining this or that has becomen easier for casual players but nothing has becomen easier for me the way I play this game. That was my point that was why I suggested that nodes have a tiny chance to drop spiritshards as well. As before this change those who did champ trains got their scrolls of knowledge and their exp and everybody else could do what ever they wanted and got xp. It’s ok if they want to nerf the amount of spirit shards people have but I think this is done very one sided.