Guild Wars 2

So here’s my rant, for today.
I’m an altaholic. And I’ve been playing since shortly after GW2 came out. I have 15 toons.
One did Victory of Death the Old Way, and the rest are ready – including a HoT Revy, to do it the new way.

Well, I had assumed that the new stories would be “Account Wide” so I wouldn’t really have to do all those Season 2, Silvertop and HoT Stories 15 times. After all, the loot you get for stories is pretty much of a joke, right? Oh it looks good, but it amounts to salvage or Mystic fodder or whatever you choice is these days for green gear.

Well come to find out that Season 2 and I’m assuming HoT stories are all Per Toon.
I’m all for the “Choice” to do the stories again.
But since the only real “Reward” for doing stories these days is MPs, and I don’t get more when I redo the stories, on same or other toons. Then why should I:
(1) Re do them or need to redo them on other toons to show the progress.
(2) Not be able to switch toons to use different classes to progress my story. And this is the big one.

AN, if you are not going to reward me, in any meaningful way, for doing the stories again on another toon, then let me switch toons to progress the story.

And if anyone wants it the other way, just make it an OPTION setting – Account Wide Stories. Although with the way things are, and the ablity to redo the stories, then I’m not clear on why we need the option.

So if I want to switch to my warrior – for Stand Your Ground and other Stability Skills to do Plan of Attack which is Knock down after Knock Down, then let me. And then I can switch back to my guardian for the next story part. Same lousy rewards, MPs only once like now, and more flexibility in doing the stories.

Any problems with that line of thinking. Bring it the Freak On!
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I will try to be polite….No.
you are choosing to have multiple characters, if you dislike doing more than one story, then either delete 14 characters, or suck it up buttercup. There is a point to having individual stories. you made your bed.

Oh, gods no.

It’s already bad enough that most of the Crystalline Ore I’ll ever get will be from stories, because those kitten noxious pods never spawn, and when they do they never drop ore.

Also, many skins set can only be completed under any reasonable time with multiple characters.

I am no friend of repetitive grind. And completing stories several times is way , WAAAAY less grind that completing meta events over and over.

Ruff Ruff… Just a buttercup with bite.

I like doing the story multiple times…. Although I will say that the fact that map completion of AB is gated by the story kind of kittenes me off.

I can’t say that I really enjoy doing the stories multiple times but since they have rewards, such as Auric weapons, behind doing the stories multiple times on different characters I’ll have to also say no, let them be as they are now.

If they allowed you to repeat the story after its done and to still get a reward that’s now locked behind doing it on multiple characters then yes.

The disadvantage of a character-bound HoT/story is that there is a single POI gated behind moving a certain item to Tarir.

The advantage of a character-bound story is:

• One piece of exotic, viper gear per toon.
• One piece of Leystone Armor; one bladed head gear
• Airship Oil by the barrel
• Orders backpack collection started (up to 3)
• Exotic, Auric weapons (at least 9 potential skins, maybe 14)
• Exotic, Chak weapons (same counts)
• Map currency & keys (a handful per iteration)
• Crystalline Ore 25
• BL Key

If you ran 18 toons through HoT/story, you could complete collections for leystone & bladed armor, chak & auric weapons; you’d have a couple of BL weapon skins; a lot of keys; a good chuck of crystalline ore; and of course a lot of blues & greens.

And you realize I’m not asking for any changes to the ability to do all this stuff on multiple toons and get all that trash, right? I’m just suggesting that AN acknowledge that you have “Completed” a story step when you do it on any toon, and that you can do the next step on any other toon in your account rather than “having” to catch up to do that next step on another toon. No change to MP rewards and achievements, which already work account wide.

windyweather.1238:

And you realize I’m not asking for any changes to the ability to do all this stuff on multiple toons and get all that trash, right? I’m just suggesting that AN acknowledge that you have “Completed” a story step when you do it on any toon, and that you can do the next step on any other toon in your account rather than “having” to catch up to do that next step on another toon. No change to MP rewards and achievements, which already work account wide.

With that clarification, I will agree this would be a nice QoL. Provided they can easily track individual alt progress so you can in fact do every step on every alt if you wish without something getting locked out — I say this as I am now in my third run up in two days to Buried Insight as I need a lot of ley line sparks and might as well get a lot of alts set to do Part IV for the crystalline ore that provides if I don’t accrue it through other game play.

I mean it wouldn’t really make sense to make it account bound since it is your characters personal story.

simplesimon.2084:

I mean it wouldn’t really make sense to make it account bound since it is your characters personal story.

^this.

You can do the story steps with any character at anytime, just know someone who is doing it, also you don’t have to do any of LW2 to play HoT. But the story of GW2 is supposed to be personal to each character. Not just something you can do with 15 different people at the same time.

windyweather.1238:

And you realize I’m not asking for any changes to the ability to do all this stuff on multiple toons and get all that trash, right? I’m just suggesting that AN acknowledge that you have “Completed” a story step when you do it on any toon, and that you can do the next step on any other toon in your account rather than “having” to catch up to do that next step on another toon. No change to MP rewards and achievements, which already work account wide.

The account wide achievements in this game are normally once completed and then are done and you can’t repeat on another char to get another reward, like you can now with the Auric weapons and the individual LS. I can see your point but I’d be suspicious of the implementation and the consequences of making the story account wide.

Fun fact: I got Spark in a main story mission lootbag

Its really quite simple. Its a completionist thing. You are supposed to run it per character. Hell the missions in HoT even have branching paths.

I disagree with the OP, however I feel that one thing that should’ve been made account-wide is the achievement availability for LS2. I still haven’t got around to doing that, it just feels weird having to repeat the same story on the same character in order to get achievements.

Random Wax Orc.7695:

Some of the best loot in the game comes from running alts though story. Removing that because some people want the feeling of completion or to bounce between characters for a single story completion would be a huge mistake. Story can easily be finished with alts with haphazard builds. Changing story to be account wide instead of character specific would ruin this game for many more players than it would improve it for players with too many alts. Alts don’t have to do story, and can often skip ahead passed old story and just do new story.

Don’t change it.

I would agree with this. Running a character through the story is not hard at all. The only time it gets difficult is where they are all at the same point, I have that have just done claw island. To say I don’t want to talk to the pale tree again would not do it justice.

My rev has just got to HoT. So that’s next on my list. Then I think I’ll get another warrior through it, or maybe my Necro. My Engi and thief as only on the level 20-30 story I think.

What really should be account wide…. opening dungeons.

I’d just settle for the option to turn the personal story indicatior off. I’ve finished twice, before they kittened up the order of the last bit, I don’t really want to do it again.

Alt-a-holic here….

18 characters on main account
17 characters on one alt
2 characters on my baby alt

/votes no

Abso-kittening-lutely NO

That is all.

Abdel Muhti.6431:

What really should be account wide…. opening dungeons.

Yes.

windyweather.1238:

And you realize I’m not asking for any changes to the ability to do all this stuff on multiple toons and get all that trash, right? I’m just suggesting that AN acknowledge that you have “Completed” a story step when you do it on any toon, and that you can do the next step on any other toon in your account rather than “having” to catch up to do that next step on another toon. No change to MP rewards and achievements, which already work account wide.

It’s not a crazy idea, just a lot more work than it sounds… particularly to balance rewards. In some cases, the rewards are based on the assumption that folks are going to do the chapters in order, so that (made up example) chapter 1, 2, & 3 each give two greens and a blue, while chapter 4 (the end of the theoretical Act I) has the exotic with the new skin.

But even just coding so that people can pick up and start chapters out of order means the game has to change the way it keeps track of character progress.

tl;dr It’s a nice quality-of-life change with a limited value to a limited set of people, at a premium cost.

MithranArkanere.8957:

It’s already bad enough that most of the Crystalline Ore I’ll ever get will be from stories, because those kitten noxious pods never spawn, and when they do they never drop ore.

Never spawn? You’re not looking. There’s about one per quest branch on each path to the bosses (about 4-6 x3 total about 12), usually hidden somewhere in the vicinity of each quest. After beating Mordy, there’s another 15-20 made accessible.