Guild Wars 2

would it be nice if we start our Avatar as a Child?

then growing up over the levels (at lv 80 u are an adult )

or having a starter zone where u be a kid and u choose ur profession.

I watched Dragon Ball as a Teenager a lot and i loved that Son Goku got older and stronger.

not saying u need become an old man after u play 2 years but lets say start as little kid choose ur proffession then after lv 40 u be a teenager and at lv 80 u reach ur final form. That all could be combined with the Personal story.

thanks for reading

Um… No?
It sounds cool, and it even helps explain the awful leveling (pardon: I meant NPE). However at this point I think the majority of players want something to do at 80, not more to get to 80.

I think people will find it disturbing to look at dying kids

Trixie.7614:

I think people will find it disturbing to look at dying kids

This, it would cause a lot of PR issues, and even some legal issues in some areas of the world. Not to mention that the adventure represents years of practice and experience in a profession before they are proficient enough to set out into the world (in Sylvari cases the experience is relayed via The Dream) even as a lvl 1 character.

uuu didnt think we ever really die i was more like we get knocked out?

in fairy tales its quite common kids go on adventure

or do we get legal cases against Hensel and Gretel?

No. Just no. I don’t even want to start giving reasons why.
If that was the case I would never even consider Guild Wars to begin with.

Invictus.1503:

Trixie.7614:

I think people will find it disturbing to look at dying kids

This, it would cause a lot of PR issues, and even some legal issues in some areas of the world.

Although I somewhat agree, NCsoft have already made at least one game where you can make a child-like character. In Aion you can do this: you can make your character short in stature and proportioned like a child, with a child-like face and even wih a child-like voice and phrases.

I’m not sure what the PR response was like for this, but I’d assume it was neutral at worst considering you can still create a child character.

As it goes, you can kinda already make child-like characters in GW2. Human character creation has a load of soft-featured, round, child-like faces along with more child/teen-like body choices. The only thing that would ruin the immersion for me is that this “child-character” would still have an adult voice… which is a little disturbing :P

I certainly wouldn’t mind more customisability in the game. I’d hope that they would add new faces and body styles for all races. It’d be good to see more diversity and I’d hope that if they added the option to make your character look younger, they’d also add something to make your character look more elderly. I’d also hope that with the increased customisability there would be a choice of character voices as well in order to better suit your choices.

And then once your character hits 500 hours played it dies of old age.

I find very beautiful suggestion; i remember zelda and final fantasy 11 having same. It give life behind character instead chose class, weapon, build and server and world, that all. Lving story is story for game; class and world but having personal living story for character would be beautiful. Like deep personal history history.

I want experience elder dragon history before elder dragon become adult dragon? Maybe also visit elder dragon world and experience as baby-adult?

Maybe arena net can make personal living story for character, class when they were born and grow? and visit there place; like past, family? and maybe visit them have effect on future?

very beaufiful suggestion Balsa

Balsa.3951:

uuu didnt think we ever really die i was more like we get knocked out?

in fairy tales its quite common kids go on adventure

or do we get legal cases against Hensel and Gretel?

Actually yes….. against the parents.
The parents take the siblings out into the Forrest and hope they die there.

But serious…. if i wanna play Sims 3 i would play Sims 3.
All these let’s be childs or let’s get married is getting on my nerves.

If that is going through i demand modern Airplane combat simulations over Lions Arch
or World of Tanks battlefields on every open map

Crimson Clouds.4853:

Invictus.1503:

Trixie.7614:

I think people will find it disturbing to look at dying kids

This, it would cause a lot of PR issues, and even some legal issues in some areas of the world.

Although I somewhat agree, NCsoft have already made at least one game where you can make a child-like character. In Aion you can do this: you can make your character short in stature and proportioned like a child, with a child-like face and even wih a child-like voice and phrases.

I’m not sure what the PR response was like for this, but I’d assume it was neutral at worst considering you can still create a child character.

As it goes, you can kinda already make child-like characters in GW2. Human character creation has a load of soft-featured, round, child-like faces along with more child/teen-like body choices. The only thing that would ruin the immersion for me is that this “child-character” would still have an adult voice… which is a little disturbing :P

I certainly wouldn’t mind more customisability in the game. I’d hope that they would add new faces and body styles for all races. It’d be good to see more diversity and I’d hope that if they added the option to make your character look younger, they’d also add something to make your character look more elderly. I’d also hope that with the increased customisability there would be a choice of character voices as well in order to better suit your choices.

First, there is a difference between “child-like” and an actual child. Not to mention, Anet has actually already given a base reason for this in an interview. From the interview (referencing Taimi):
ESRB has policies against harming children, Scruffy (her golem), is ANet’s answer to that. He will do anything to protect her, fight, become a bunker, or even just pick her up and walk away from danger. Scruffy was Taimi’s own creation.

From a technical standpoint, it’s a lot of extra effort.

Think about character models. You’d have to make sure that each armor skin and animation works for the ‘kid’ frame and the ‘adult’ frame.

On another point, Asura kids are TINY so good luck even seeing them in a combat and Charr kids practically have no character model (just shrunken down adult Charr) which puts the game’s limited extra models on the forefront when it honestly needs to be kept in the background.

Also also, Sylvari don’t even exist as children. They are pretty much created as adult so kind of leaves a whole race out of the loop on this idea.

Pockethole.5031:

People who don’t want to play kids must be those types of adults who think they are smarter than kids. No, you just got more knowledge.
I’m so tired of stupid boring adults who think being boring is fun. I hate them. Most adults have some serious problems. I don’t understand why they want to be boring, bully, mean and self-centered all the time.
All adults suck hard. And you enforce your corruption on kids, alot.
Stop making more monsters, please.

Wow, it’s like reading a LiveJournal entry of mine from when I was 14 and upset that my parents grounded me.

As for the OP, I don’t see how it could work. Sylvari, for example, are never children. Would there just be no Sylvari in this situation? Plus, the story would have to be reworked to make sure any deaths were not those of children (due to the typical restrictions based around child characters in certain media). And, as a personal note, I have no interest in making GW2 more like The Sims. I love GW2. I love The Sims. I would not love more of a hybrid between the two.

It would look funny to have a party of 10 years old humans, norn, asura and charr playing with a fully adult 10 years old sylvari..

The game takes place between 1325-1328 AE. Please explain how aging three years can make a child an adult.

For non-lore reasons, I also disagree with this suggestion only because it is both impractical and unnecessary. The amount of work to texture and armor children, not to mention all of the other issues with children being in dangerous situations, as well as the additional voice acting, a revamp of the personal story (a kid is not going to be able to save Shaemoor or take on ancient Ascalonian ghosts, for example), the lack of sylvari being part of this system (they are full-grown and essentially naive adults when born), as well as implementing an aging system, etc etc

For a different game, one built new from the ground up, playing from a child to an adult could be feasible and could even be fun. But this is Guild Wars 2, an established MMO of a little over two years old. This kind of design change would be something to take place far before reaching the public. Sorry, but no.

Kurrilino.2706:

Balsa.3951:

uuu didnt think we ever really die i was more like we get knocked out?

in fairy tales its quite common kids go on adventure

or do we get legal cases against Hensel and Gretel?

Actually yes….. against the parents.
The parents take the siblings out into the Forrest and hope they die there.

But serious…. if i wanna play Sims 3 i would play Sims 3.
All these let’s be childs or let’s get married is getting on my nerves.

If that is going through i demand modern Airplane combat simulations over Lions Arch
or World of Tanks battlefields on every open map

u get the facts wrong as i know they moved back to the father and lived happy ever after

about if i wanna play sims is not a real argument sorry u just getting ur argument to sound strong but its not since I can say why play a Thief if i wanna play a thief i play Assasins Creed or Robin hood if i want be a ranger :P

technical problems …. I not really see why we should care ? there are always problems even if u bring a bagsort in. Or a new dye color

so like it dont like it but get a real argument.

you be just a kid for lets say 10 levels or like suggested as a flashback in the PS

I very much like that idea too we already have flashbacks of the past. A small instance where you remember how u became a Thief or Guardian could be cool

I would be OK with you playing as an adolescent for the intro portion (if it makes sense to do it), but as soon as you finish that tutorial area, it’s like a few years went by and now you are an adult.

Then again, I still prefer it the way it is now over this option.

It has possibilities, but there would be issues as others have described . . . maturity and blame references not withstanding. Still, to be honest, I play and am playing Guild Wars with a ‘child-like’ character. Made him as short as possible with this thought in mind.

I suppose one could go the same route, with a little imagination here, depending on the race.

After all, aren’t Sylvari more or less adolescent anyway? You pretty much start that race after being born . . . again, more or less.

It would be interesting, although I’d think keeping the childhood to a very short starting instance would be ideal (and also making it optional). Mind you Sylvari’s won’t be getting much out of this though…

no thank you. Playing Fable’s intro scarred me for life ;(

Might be neat…

But frankly, I don’t wanna walk into a city a see a ton rule34 RPing with a crowd of level 1’s.

krapmyself.2817:

Might be neat…

But frankly, I don’t wanna walk into a city a see a ton rule34 RPing with a crowd of level 1’s.

Lol rule34 has nothing to do with children.

Leo G.4501:

krapmyself.2817:

Might be neat…

But frankly, I don’t wanna walk into a city a see a ton rule34 RPing with a crowd of level 1’s.

Lol rule34 has nothing to do with children.

Technically, rule 34 has everything to do with everything.

Leo G.4501:

krapmyself.2817:

Might be neat…

But frankly, I don’t wanna walk into a city a see a ton rule34 RPing with a crowd of level 1’s.

Lol rule34 has nothing to do with children.

Rule 34: If it exists, there is porn for it. No exceptions.

So I’ll be clear:

I don’t wanna walk into a city an see a crowd of level 1’s ERPing.

krapmyself.2817:

Leo G.4501:

krapmyself.2817:

Might be neat…

But frankly, I don’t wanna walk into a city a see a ton rule34 RPing with a crowd of level 1’s.

Lol rule34 has nothing to do with children.

Rule 34: If it exists, there is porn for it. No exceptions.

So I’ll be clear:

I don’t wanna walk into a city an see a crowd of level 1’s ERPing.

I’m not that big on the RP front in Guild Wars 2, but how likely is it to actually find people doing ERP in major cities? The emotes system is almost like, map wide.

People would surely always do it in their personal home instance.

Farzo.8410:

I’m not that big on the RP front in Guild Wars 2, but how likely is it to actually find people doing ERP in major cities? The emotes system is almost like, map wide.

People would surely always do it in their personal home instance.

The only times I’ve “seen” it outside of instances were while wandering around The Grove. Obviously, it’s nothing I see daily, but it’s happened quite a few times. that being said, I doubt we’d ever see something that could possibly result in legal action in the very public areas of the game.

Farzo.8410:

krapmyself.2817:

Leo G.4501:

krapmyself.2817:

Might be neat…

But frankly, I don’t wanna walk into a city a see a ton rule34 RPing with a crowd of level 1’s.

Lol rule34 has nothing to do with children.

Rule 34: If it exists, there is porn for it. No exceptions.

So I’ll be clear:

I don’t wanna walk into a city an see a crowd of level 1’s ERPing.

I’m not that big on the RP front in Guild Wars 2, but how likely is it to actually find people doing ERP in major cities? The emotes system is almost like, map wide.

People would surely always do it in their personal home instance.

You’ve clearly never been to Divinity’s Reach.

This suggestion would involve rewriting the entire game, which currently occurs over a period of a year or two at most. A character starting off as an eight year old child at character creation would be no more than ten at max level.

For all intents and purposes the character would be stuck as a child for the remainder of the life of the game.

Trahearn may be an idiot but I dont think even he would put a nine year old inpositon to be second in command of the Pact.

Ashen.2907:

This suggestion would involve rewriting the entire game, which currently occurs over a period of a year or two at most. A character starting off as an eight year old child at character creation would be no more than ten at max level.

For all intents and purposes the character would be stuck as a child for the remainder of the life of the game.

Trahearn may be an idiot but I dont think even he would put a nine year old inpositon to be second in command of the Pact.

this guy didn’t actually read the OP, it seems

rapthorne.7345:

Ashen.2907:

This suggestion would involve rewriting the entire game, which currently occurs over a period of a year or two at most. A character starting off as an eight year old child at character creation would be no more than ten at max level.

For all intents and purposes the character would be stuck as a child for the remainder of the life of the game.

Trahearn may be an idiot but I dont think even he would put a nine year old inpositon to be second in command of the Pact.

this guy didn’t actually read the OP, it seems

You mean the OP which suggests becoming a teenager within a few days (character time) of being a child? Or which would require rewriting the game story otherwise ?

Balsa.3951:

uuu didnt think we ever really die i was more like we get knocked out?

in fairy tales its quite common kids go on adventure

or do we get legal cases against Hensel and Gretel?

Uhhh…you know those Mother Goose Fairy Tales were just retold versions of the Grimm Fairy Tales where there aren’t such happy endings, right?

Guhracie.3419:

Farzo.8410:

krapmyself.2817:

Leo G.4501:

krapmyself.2817:

Might be neat…

But frankly, I don’t wanna walk into a city a see a ton rule34 RPing with a crowd of level 1’s.

Lol rule34 has nothing to do with children.

Rule 34: If it exists, there is porn for it. No exceptions.

So I’ll be clear:

I don’t wanna walk into a city an see a crowd of level 1’s ERPing.

I’m not that big on the RP front in Guild Wars 2, but how likely is it to actually find people doing ERP in major cities? The emotes system is almost like, map wide.

People would surely always do it in their personal home instance.

You’ve clearly never been to Divinity’s Reach.

I got the Royal Pass, so, I spend my time there pretty much all the time.

But I don’t play on Piken Square or Tarnished Coast.

Serophous.9085:

Balsa.3951:

uuu didnt think we ever really die i was more like we get knocked out?

in fairy tales its quite common kids go on adventure

or do we get legal cases against Hensel and Gretel?

Uhhh…you know those Mother Goose Fairy Tales were just retold versions of the Grimm Fairy Tales where there aren’t such happy endings, right?

and whats ur point ?

Balsa.3951:

Serophous.9085:

Balsa.3951:

uuu didnt think we ever really die i was more like we get knocked out?

in fairy tales its quite common kids go on adventure

or do we get legal cases against Hensel and Gretel?

Uhhh…you know those Mother Goose Fairy Tales were just retold versions of the Grimm Fairy Tales where there aren’t such happy endings, right?

and whats ur point ?

Their point is to read the original Grimm tales. You don’t know what you think you know about the real story :P

Invictus.1503:

Balsa.3951:

Serophous.9085:

Balsa.3951:

uuu didnt think we ever really die i was more like we get knocked out?

in fairy tales its quite common kids go on adventure

or do we get legal cases against Hensel and Gretel?

Uhhh…you know those Mother Goose Fairy Tales were just retold versions of the Grimm Fairy Tales where there aren’t such happy endings, right?

and whats ur point ?

Their point is to read the original Grimm tales. You don’t know what you think you know about the real story :P

aha nice that u know what i know and even better that people dont get, that it all started with the joke about they sueing there Parents uuuh

Balsa.3951:

Kurrilino.2706:

Balsa.3951:

uuu didnt think we ever really die i was more like we get knocked out?

in fairy tales its quite common kids go on adventure

or do we get legal cases against Hensel and Gretel?

Actually yes….. against the parents.
The parents take the siblings out into the Forrest and hope they die there.

But serious…. if i wanna play Sims 3 i would play Sims 3.
All these let’s be childs or let’s get married is getting on my nerves.

If that is going through i demand modern Airplane combat simulations over Lions Arch
or World of Tanks battlefields on every open map

u get the facts wrong as i know they moved back to the father and lived happy ever after

about if i wanna play sims is not a real argument sorry u just getting ur argument to sound strong but its not since I can say why play a Thief if i wanna play a thief i play Assasins Creed or Robin hood if i want be a ranger :P

technical problems …. I not really see why we should care ? there are always problems even if u bring a bagsort in. Or a new dye color

so like it dont like it but get a real argument.

you be just a kid for lets say 10 levels or like suggested as a flashback in the PS

I very much like that idea too we already have flashbacks of the past. A small instance where you remember how u became a Thief or Guardian could be cool

quite bold to demand a “real argument” when you summarized yours in “would it be nice if we start our Avatar as a Child?”

What in the unholy armpit of Baal is this? I can’t even — it’s just — baaah.

There is no place for an like this in either the gameplay or the presented narrative. In Tyeia, children seem to be children, not fully trained adventurers, mercenaries and soldiers with any ability to do anything a real world child can’t do.

Presuming a few things, it might be that children with magical aptitude start showing it at young ages, though the pre- adolescent superpowered-being trope doesn’t seem to exist here, or in my thinking, mesh at all well worth anything existing to do with the game or its lore.

We already see enough people trying to rp their characters as 14 year old non-sylvari (for whom it might at a stretch at least attempt to make sense) veterans of war, every known skill imaginable with high rank in important lore organizations and being super-inventors and archmages.

Let’s not lower the bar further, please.

krapmyself.2817:

Leo G.4501:

krapmyself.2817:

Might be neat…

But frankly, I don’t wanna walk into a city a see a ton rule34 RPing with a crowd of level 1’s.

Lol rule34 has nothing to do with children.

Rule 34: If it exists, there is porn for it. No exceptions.

So I’ll be clear:

I don’t wanna walk into a city an see a crowd of level 1’s ERPing.

So what you’re saying is, you’re okay with seeing a crowd of people ERPing so long as they’re max level? Because what I meant is, there is nothing stopping people from rule34ing their RP right now, children or no.

Leo G.4501:

krapmyself.2817:

Leo G.4501:

krapmyself.2817:

Might be neat…

But frankly, I don’t wanna walk into a city a see a ton rule34 RPing with a crowd of level 1’s.

Lol rule34 has nothing to do with children.

Rule 34: If it exists, there is porn for it. No exceptions.

So I’ll be clear:

I don’t wanna walk into a city an see a crowd of level 1’s ERPing.

So what you’re saying is, you’re okay with seeing a crowd of people ERPing so long as they’re max level? Because what I meant is, there is nothing stopping people from rule34ing their RP right now, children or no.

What I’m implying seems to be going way over your head, so I’ll just stop.

Is there a reason every thread lately devolves into, “Na na na! I don’t like you. You’re an idiot,” for some reason?

Let’s keep the personal issues and attack out of it please.

Algreg.3629:

Balsa.3951:

Kurrilino.2706:

Balsa.3951:

uuu didnt think we ever really die i was more like we get knocked out?

in fairy tales its quite common kids go on adventure

or do we get legal cases against Hensel and Gretel?

Actually yes….. against the parents.
The parents take the siblings out into the Forrest and hope they die there.

But serious…. if i wanna play Sims 3 i would play Sims 3.
All these let’s be childs or let’s get married is getting on my nerves.

If that is going through i demand modern Airplane combat simulations over Lions Arch
or World of Tanks battlefields on every open map

u get the facts wrong as i know they moved back to the father and lived happy ever after

about if i wanna play sims is not a real argument sorry u just getting ur argument to sound strong but its not since I can say why play a Thief if i wanna play a thief i play Assasins Creed or Robin hood if i want be a ranger :P

technical problems …. I not really see why we should care ? there are always problems even if u bring a bagsort in. Or a new dye color

so like it dont like it but get a real argument.

you be just a kid for lets say 10 levels or like suggested as a flashback in the PS

I very much like that idea too we already have flashbacks of the past. A small instance where you remember how u became a Thief or Guardian could be cool

quite bold to demand a “real argument” when you summarized yours in “would it be nice if we start our Avatar as a Child?”

so long stay on the topic its not more bold then any other subject in this forum

but i know that many people are very good in screaming No ! in this forum with the arguement gw1 had no childs or the game has other problems or if i want childs i ask my wife