Guild Wars 2

Hello everyone. The survey has come to an end and I have collected and used the last data to create a number chart of sorts. I’d like to thank everyone who participated in the survey and I’m really grateful for the big response.

You can check the data below under the spoiler (just click it) and the number chart in attachment. Thank you!

Sirendor.1394:

PVE

Dynamic events?
a) Fun (enjoy doing them) +
b) Repetitive
c) Grindy
d) Rewarding
e) Not rewarding +
f) Memorable
g) Have a big impact
h) Time-consuming
i) Boring
j) No opinion

Living story?
a) Fun (enjoy doing them) +
b) Repetitive +
c) Grindy +
d) Rewarding +
e) Not rewarding
f) Memorable
g) Have a big impact
h) Time-consuming +
i) Boring +
j) No opinion

World bosses?
a) Fun (enjoy doing them)
b) Repetitive +
c) Grindy
d) Rewarding +
e) Not rewarding
f) Memorable
g) Have a big impact
h) Time-consuming
i) Boring +
j) No opinion

Dungeons?
a) Fun (enjoy doing them)
b) Repetitive +
c) Grindy +
d) Rewarding
e) Not rewarding +
f) Memorable
g) Have a big impact
h) Time-consuming +
i) Boring +
j) No opinion

Jumping puzzles?
a) Fun (enjoy doing them) +
b) Repetitive
c) Grindy
d) Rewarding
e) Not rewarding +
f) Memorable +
g) Have a big impact
h) Time-consuming
i) Boring
j) No opinion

Personal story
a) Fun (enjoy doing them) +
b) Repetitive
c) Grindy
d) Rewarding
e) Not rewarding +
f) Memorable
g) Have a big impact
h) Time-consuming +
i) Boring
j) No opinion

Additional?
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WVW

Small scale?
a) Fun (enjoy doing them) +
b) Repetitive
c) Grindy
d) Rewarding
e) Not rewarding +
f) Memorable
g) Have a big impact
h) Time-consuming
i) Boring
i) No opinion

Large scale?
a) Fun (enjoy doing them)
b) Repetitive
c) Grindy
d) Rewarding
e) Not rewarding
f) Memorable
g) Have a big impact
h) Time-consuming
i) Boring
i) No opinion +

Guild vs. Guild?
a) Fun (enjoy doing them)
b) Repetitive
c) Grindy
d) Rewarding
e) Not rewarding
f) Memorable
g) Have a big impact
h) Time-consuming
i) Boring
i) No opinion +

Additional?

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SPVP

Hot-join?
a) Fun (enjoy doing them) +
b) Repetitive +
c) Grindy
d) Rewarding
e) Not rewarding +
f) Memorable
g) Have a big impact
h) Time-consuming
i) Boring
i) No opinion

Tournaments?
a) Fun (enjoy doing them)
b) Repetitive
c) Grindy
d) Rewarding
e) Not rewarding
f) Memorable
g) Have a big impact
h) Time-consuming
i) Boring
i) No opinion +

Thank you

PVE

1- Boring joke
2- Boring (boring is too positive how i really feel about their living creature)
3- Not rewarding
4- Not rewarding
5- LOL puzzles in an mmo
6- Boring – skipped every cutsceen because they were face palm unwatchable.

WvW

1- Fun
2- Lag fest inacceptable for 2013
3- No opinion

PvP
1- Fun for half an hour per week…
2- lol tournaments in a spam fest game is just that, boring spam fest.

This thread hurts my eyes with the sheer length.

If you’re truly serious about this, use a free custom survey site, like surveymonkey.

This thread is utterly unreadable and you should have known this beforehand.

Theres 2 posts in it, imagine 100 posts, UNREADABLE.

PVE

Dynamic events?
b) Repetitive
c) Grindy
e) Not rewarding
h) Time-consuming
i) Boring

Living story?
b) Repetitive
c) Grindy (achievements)
g) Have no impact
h) Time-consuming
i) Boring
j) Temporary

World bosses?
b) Repetitive
c) Grindy
d) Rewarding
i) Boring
j) Brainless
k) No skill

Dungeons?
b) Repetitive
c) Grindy
f) Memorable
h) Time-consuming
i) Boring
j) Not enough variety in paths

Jumping puzzles?
a) Fun (enjoy doing them)
e) Not rewarding
f) Memorable

Personal story
a) Stereotype
b) Repetitive
c) Grindy
e) Not rewarding
f) Not memorable
h) Time-consuming
i) Boring and stale

Additional?
Overall, the PvE aspect of the game focuses way too much on grinding skins. Money plays a very crucial role in that and it forces you to play grindy/profitable content. Instead I think there should be less thinking about money and more about the experience itself.

WVW

Small scale?
a) Fun (enjoy doing them)
e) Not rewarding
f) Memorable
g) Have a small impact
i) Require a lot of skill

Large scale?
b) Repetitive
c) Grindy
d) Rewarding
h) Time-consuming
i) Boring
j) Zergy
k) Laggy

Guild vs. Guild?
a) Fun (enjoy doing them)
e) Not rewarding
f) Memorable
g) Have no impact (-)
i) Require a lot of skill

Additional?
WvW should have a lot more impact. As it is now, the player doesn’t care about defending his homeland, because nothing happens if it gets razed down. The keeps still stand there if the enemy has them and all in all there isn’t much reason to retake them. Retaking them isn’t hard either, cause it only requires a zerg of 60 people who all press skill #1.

SPVP

Hot-join?
c) Grindy/zergy
e) Not rewarding
f) Memorable
i) Inbalanced
j) Doesn’t require skill

Tournaments?
b) Repetitive
c) Grindy
e) Not rewarding
h) Time-consuming
i) Doesn’t require true PvP skill (e.g. capture points)

Additional?
PvP should be more about matching a fixed number of equally valiant players who can engage in a long duration fight and allowing the winner a permanent reward, such as an upgraded PvP team hall.

Have No Faith In Me.1840:

This thread hurts my eyes with the sheer length.

If you’re truly serious about this, use a free custom survey site, like surveymonkey.

This thread is utterly unreadable and you should have known this beforehand.

Theres 2 posts in it, imagine 100 posts, UNREADABLE.

Haha, I’m sorry, I just copied every option so players don’t need to type it all themselves.

Okay I’ll do that.

Taking out the ones I’d leave unchecked for better readability:

PVE

Dynamic events?
a) Fun (enjoy doing them) – Mostly this, maybe a little of b, but if I find that I just go do something else.
d) Rewarding – Rewarding when I’m leveling an alt, not so much afterwards
f) Memorable – Some of them

Living story?
a) Fun (enjoy doing them) – Mostly this. Some living story achievements (piñatas anyone) are repetitive, but those I just ignore and do others I find fun, so I’m not checking it (as the question is “how do I find it”).
d) Rewarding – If I like the meta achievement, I’ve skipped some I don’t care about the meta reward.
f) Memorable – check
g) Have a big impact – False check (adding comment but don’t count as a check). So far they haven’t had such a big impact, I felt at least until now they’ve been like episodes in an old series, in the end everything went back to normal. We’ll see from this point on, though.
h) Time-consuming – To a point. I consider this a good thing since they do have from 2 weeks to a month to fill.

World bosses?
a) Fun (enjoy doing them) – Some I do enjoy (Claw of Jormag, Golem..)
b) Repetitive – Some are repetitive (Tequatl, shatterer..)
d) Rewarding – Check
f) Memorable – Some of them
g) Have a big impact – Negative (false check again). I’d like to see more of a posibility of failure with world bosses with consequences, maybe if Tequatl isn’t killed in a set amount of time the risen invade sparkfly fen or something like that.

Dungeons?
a) Fun (enjoy doing them) – Check (even enjoyed some that others considered as hating… why are they doing them if they hated it then?)
d) Rewarding – Half check. I’d like either a better reward for the story versions, or the posibility to solo it.
f) Memorable – Check
h) Time-consuming – Some of them

Jumping puzzles?
a) Fun (enjoy doing them) – Check
d) Rewarding – The chest contents is forgetable, but I really feel good about myself when I manage to reach it, so I guess YMMV
f) Memorable – check

Personal story
a) Fun (enjoy doing them) – Half check.
b) Repetitive – After claw island. Only one char has progressed further, stopped all the other ones as soon as I reached that point.
d) Rewarding – If you do them while leveling, good loot and XP.
f) Memorable – Mostly yes

(Skipping WvW as I’ve done relatively little of it and sPvP as I’ve done none of it yet).

PVE
Dynamic events?
a) Fun (enjoy doing them)
b) Repetitive

Living story?
a) Fun (enjoy doing them)
c) Grindy
i) Boring

World bosses?
b) Repetitive
e) Not rewarding

Dungeons?
a) Fun (enjoy doing them)
d) Rewarding
h) Time-consuming

Jumping puzzles?
a) Fun (enjoy doing them)
e) Not rewarding

Personal story
e) Not rewarding
f) Memorable
i) Boring
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WVW
Small scale?
a) Fun (enjoy doing them)
b) Repetitive
d) Rewarding

Large scale?
b) Repetitive
i) Boring

Guild vs. Guild?
j) Non-Existent?
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SPVP
Hot-join?
a) Fun (enjoy doing them)
c) Grindy
e) Not rewarding

Tournaments?
a) Fun (enjoy doing them)
c) Grindy
e) Not rewarding
f) Memorable

The wolves have left and the sheep are having a good old time.

Alrighty, added a survey to make it all more smooth-ish. You can fill that in and I’ll post the results regularly

Here’s the link
http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/LGZLKWQ

Updated results 28/08:
PVE
- Dynamic events: 66,67% needs more variety / 60% fun / 60% repetitive / 53,33% no impact / 40% not rewarding / 33,33% zergy
- Living story: 53,33% no impact / 46,67% boring / 46,67% repetitive / 46,67% grindy / 40% zergy / 33,33% fun / 26,67% time-consuming
- World bosses: 64,29% easy / 57,14% repetitive / 50% zergy / 50% boring / 50% no impact / 42,86% fun / 35,71% more variety / 21,43% grindy
- Dungeons: 57,14% fun / 50% repetitive / 50% grindy / 42,86% time-consuming / 42,86% boring / 28,57% more variety / 21,43% easy
- Jumping Puzzles: 85,71% fun / 28,57% not rewarding / 28,57% memorable / 21,43% no impact / 21,43% boring / 14,29% more variety / 14,29% easy
- Personal story: 42,86% boring / 35,71% not rewarding / 28,57% more variety / 28,57% badly written/ 21,43% fun / 21,43% memorable / 21,43% repetitive / 21,43% easy / 21,43% skill-less / 21,43% skill-less

WvW
- Small scale: 41,67% fun / 33,33% no opinion (haven’t done it) / 33,33% not rewarding/ 25% no impact / 25% requires a lot of skill
- Large scale: 58,33% zergy / 41,67% boring / 41,67% skill-less / 33,33% easy / 33,33% grindy / 33,33% repetitive / 33,33% no opinion (haven’t done it) / 25% not rewarding

SPvP
- Hot-join: 63,64% no opinion (haven’t done it) / 18,18% skill-less / 18,18% zergy / 18,18% fun
- Tournaments: 81,82% no opinion (haven’t done it) / 9,09% fun

SPECIAL REMARKS!
1- Living story is the 2nd-least loved part of pve, and yet it is the only part that gets 2 patches a month!
2- Jumping puzzles are the most loved by all players, but at the same time the least rewarding.
3- The majority of players who have filled in this survey haven’t ever tried out SPvP or simply don’t care about it.
4- This survey isn’t complete of course, cause it only got a limited number of players to fill it in, but it seems the general trend has been set, which will owe clearer numbers the more players fill it in. Please do so and help us provide a clear view of what the player really likes/dislikes.

I’ll reply just with “ehh”. Pretty sure that’s self-explanatory.

A quick bump so other people get a chance to fill in the survey

The “no opinion” option usually is mutually exclusive with all the others, meaning that these are people who either do not play that element of the game or do not have a specific opinion on them. Consequently we have to extrapolate the other scores on the number of player who didn’t click “no opinion”. For Hot-join for example 57,5% do not have an opinion on the game element. This means 42,5% does have an opinion.
Out of these 42,5% 17,5% enjoys doing Hot-join, so that means a score on 100% of 41,18% who does enjoy doing Hot-join out of those who have voted. Please keep this in mind while reading the poll results!

WvW
1)Fun
2)Not rewarding

Where was the WvW section?

Why is there an Easy choice but no Difficult choice? Or is that meant to be “Requires a lot of skill”?

What do you mean by Small versus Large scale wvw?

When you talk about Impact, impact on what?

I like polls but I couldn’t complete this one without more information.

@ Klaw. There are 3 pages
@ Sitkaz.
- that would be yes
- small scale (= groups of less than 10 people), large scale (= usually zergs)
- impact on the world

Sirendor.1394:

@ Klaw. There are 3 pages
@ Sitkaz.
- that would be yes
- small scale (= groups of less than 10 people), large scale (= usually zergs)
- impact on the world

Thanks for the clarification.

Another thing: If Difficult is Requiring Skill, what is the difference between Easy and Skill-less?

Would be nice to have a ‘Frustrating’ option.

Interesting to see that more people find Living Story to be grindy, zergy, boring, and no impact…vs Fun and impactful.

What is the sample size? How many different surveys completed?

Nuka Cola.8520:

PVE

1- Boring joke
2- Boring (boring is too positive how i really feel about their living creature)
3- Not rewarding
4- Not rewarding
5- LOL puzzles in an mmo
6- Boring – skipped every cutsceen because they were face palm unwatchable.

WvW

1- Fun
2- Lag fest inacceptable for 2013
3- No opinion

PvP
1- Fun for half an hour per week…
2- lol tournaments in a spam fest game is just that, boring spam fest.

sounds like GW2 is not your game.

About time someone made a survey to display what people are really thinking, thank-you.

Let’s see: repetitive, boring, and grindy.

cesmode.4257:

Interesting to see that more people find Living Story to be grindy, zergy, boring, and no impact…vs Fun and impactful.

What is the sample size? How many different surveys completed?

I just checked and 100 surveys completed at this moment. Thank you everyone for being so helpful! I will get to work clarifying and maybe adding some graphics to compare different statistics.

I would also like to add that the maximum number of surveys SurveyMonkey allows to free users is 100. This means any surveys that get completed from now on won’t help for the results and consequently will be a waste of your time. Thank you!

[YOU CAN COMMENT ON RESULTS BELOW]

Here are some first graphics, about the “fun” scores. These charts were created using the numbers obtained from the survey, also taking the “no opinion (haven’t tried)” answer option into account.

This option excluded every other answer option and only people who didn’t check “no opinion” were taken into account. For example 36% of the people thought living story fun. 3% of the survey fillers didn’t have an opinion on it. Consequently I scaled the 36% to 97% (100%-3%). 37,11% of the people who answerred that particular question found living story fun. This information as a context why some of the numbers used in graphics are not equal to the ones in the complete test results I will paste below.

Keep the “no opinion” percentage in mind! High percentage means a big chunk of people didn’t have an opinion on the question. In that case you have to calculate the actual percentage of fun, grindy,… by using following formula:

listed percentage/(100-percentage NO)

Another one showing the scores from WvW.

It all points to people loving JPs/Dungeons/Events and small scale WvW.
I fit in the scheme as well :p

Hopefully Anet focuses more on those things and less on livingstorylivingstorylivingstorylivingstorylivingstory.

Chewablesleeptablet.3185:

Nuka Cola.8520:

PVE

1- Boring joke
2- Boring (boring is too positive how i really feel about their living creature)
3- Not rewarding
4- Not rewarding
5- LOL puzzles in an mmo
6- Boring – skipped every cutsceen because they were face palm unwatchable.

WvW

1- Fun
2- Lag fest inacceptable for 2013
3- No opinion

PvP
1- Fun for half an hour per week…
2- lol tournaments in a spam fest game is just that, boring spam fest.

sounds like GW2 is not your game.

Try not to tell anyone else, thanks.

Updated for the last time. The top post now holds the final results, as well as the number charts.

nice job Sirendor

I’m confused by the reaction to this.
Obviously a lot of work and effort was put into this, but the value of those results is highly questionable.

At best this somewhat shows the opinion of a fraction of the most vocal forum users.

Evans.6347:

I’m confused by the reaction to this.
Obviously a lot of work and effort was put into this, but the value of those results is highly questionable.

At best this somewhat shows the opinion of a fraction of the most vocal forum users.

Of course it isn’t a representation of the whole gaming community. That would be near impossible to obtain due to various factors such as [~forum posting/forum posting][age][~time/time][~interest/interest], but my survey is based on the expectation that the number of people who post on forums with certain opinions (pro-LS/contra-LS) are in the same proportion as people who don’t post on forums but play the game/have played the game.

I don’t think everyone who writes on the forum is by definition a hater who doesn’t like Guild Wars 2 and wants to destroy the game. I’m fairly certain the number who posts on the forum and likes the game is bigger actually, since you need to have bought the game for posting on this forum.

Still… there is no 100% guarantee that the number of players who filled this survey aren’t by chance (highly improbable) all haters. You do see my point I hope. :P

It does show for certain that for forum posters (who might just be loyal players) the maiority is not a big fan of Living Story and certainly doesn’t categorize it as one of the most fun parts of the game.

I think it’s a fair representation of forum users. It’s just that we need to keep in mind that we only represent a small fraction of the entire playerbase and we are generally all critics : )

Criticism can be good or bad :P

I think we all agree that zergy gameplay sucks.