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The GW2 Universe
If you’re referring to GW1, then yes it’s part of the GW2 universe. I think the problem the moderators have with discussing it is the fact that people were discussing it as a separate game, especially since there are relevant forums out there for such discussion.
If you’re referring to some other game, then no it isn’t part of the GW universe.
Technically yes it is, but don’t expect too much cross over. The GW2 team seems to want to focus on their own stories and give little acknowledgment to the original game (besides some lip service and occasional references)
Personally, it doesn’t even feel like the same planet to me.
Goat Simulator? Well, maybe it could be considered a “spiritual successor” but it’s not canon.
I feel like GW1 sets up GW2, even more so when they added Guild Wars: Beyond, which tells the player how the queen got to power (and how if they did not, the world would be very different according to Anet) and how we get other important NPC’s like Logan or the Sylvari, and even important locations in GW2 come from GW1. (i.e. LA ruins or Droknar’s skill point.) It may not be an important thing to most players, but I would hope that they don’t dismiss something as important as the foundation of GW2.
Lyscir – Main Engi
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What you all forgot is that Guild Wars 1 is BY FAR the better game, given the time frame it was released (early 2000s).
What you all forgot is that Guild Wars 1 is BY FAR the better game, given the time frame it was released (early 2000s).
28. april, 2005
That’s not early 2000s 8D
What you all forgot is that Guild Wars 1 is BY FAR the better game, given the time frame it was released (early 2000s).
That is actually rather silly.
There were games released in the 80s that were “far better games” than games released today.
Release date for a game doesn’t really have that much to do with how good a game is.
Heroes of Might and Magic III for one is much better than IV, V and VI in my eyes for one.
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Technically yes it is, but don’t expect too much cross over. The GW2 team seems to want to focus on their own stories and give little acknowledgment to the original game (besides some lip service and occasional references)
Personally, it doesn’t even feel like the same planet to me.
Unfortunately I’m coming to terms with the fact that it might be true.
I hope season 2 gives us more ties to GW1 lore. I hope we see more returning elements ( especially armor and weapons).
Here’s hoping.
If here they fall they shall live on when ever you cry “For Ascalon!”
Technically yes it is, but don’t expect too much cross over. The GW2 team seems to want to focus on their own stories and give little acknowledgment to the original game (besides some lip service and occasional references)
Personally, it doesn’t even feel like the same planet to me.
Unfortunately I’m coming to terms with the fact that it might be true.
I hope season 2 gives us more ties to GW1 lore. I hope we see more returning elements ( especially armor and weapons).Here’s hoping.
There are SO many ties to GW1 in GW2 already. I can see many people did not read the novels put out in the interim between the games, as that covers much of the lore and how GW2 got the way it is.
I have also found so many little clues around GW2, such as the clues about Cantha in the Priory office in Destiny’s Reach, etc. They are there if you want to look and take the time to read them all.
Technically yes it is, but don’t expect too much cross over. The GW2 team seems to want to focus on their own stories and give little acknowledgment to the original game (besides some lip service and occasional references)
Personally, it doesn’t even feel like the same planet to me.
Unfortunately I’m coming to terms with the fact that it might be true.
I hope season 2 gives us more ties to GW1 lore. I hope we see more returning elements ( especially armor and weapons).Here’s hoping.
LS2 will not, more than likely, give more ties to GW1 that are not in the game already. There are plenty in game, one just needs to look.
GW2 is not GW1. A.Net is not the same company it was when GW1 was put out. That is a realistic fact and one has to understand that.
One might consider how much an area, its culture, its population constitution, etc. changes in 250 years.
I know where I live would be unrecognizable should I travel back (or forward, most likely) 250 years. Other than some topography, I doubt there would be much I would be familiar with.
Technically yes it is, but don’t expect too much cross over. The GW2 team seems to want to focus on their own stories and give little acknowledgment to the original game (besides some lip service and occasional references)
Personally, it doesn’t even feel like the same planet to me.
Unfortunately I’m coming to terms with the fact that it might be true.
I hope season 2 gives us more ties to GW1 lore. I hope we see more returning elements ( especially armor and weapons).Here’s hoping.
There are SO many ties to GW1 in GW2 already. I can see many people did not read the novels put out in the interim between the games, as that covers much of the lore and how GW2 got the way it is.
I have also found so many little clues around GW2, such as the clues about Cantha in the Priory office in Destiny’s Reach, etc. They are there if you want to look and take the time to read them all.
I have read all three and every piece of content they have released since. I also understand it is 250 years later so things are bound to be different. But having played these games since 2006 I can say with some sort of understanding that GW2 is not making real substantial attempts to tie itself to GW1’s lore. Sure they have minor references hidden in book carts and in basements of the libraries. But to use a poor cooking analogy, I feel like GW2 has some GW1 flavoring sprinkled on it instead of displaying it as a major portion.
I think this is a missed opportunity. This game lacks depths as it is. That’s going to happen to any new MMO. However, the Guild Wars franchise has real depth and a wonderfully full universe and GW2 could tap into that a lot more than they currently are.
I had to re write this post a few times, I don’t know how to word how I feel about this game. I love it, I really do, or at least I love Tyria, Elona, Cantha etc.
I played GW1 from the get go, and I liked it, it was just something else. Got all the expansions, loved each and every one of them. Each one felt alive, a new continent and it was full of lore, and people.
GW2 just seems so pale in comparison, so devoid of meaning and strife. There is no depth to it. It seems like its just one big stall while the world circles the drain to closure. I would LITERALLY. FREIKEN LITERALLY CRY if July 1st came out, and on the map was a Mission Marker marking a mission for travel to Cantha.
I miss the story, I miss the PEOPLE. I miss the NPC FREIKEN PEOPLE.
I don’t feel pushed to the edge by the dragons, I feel like the dragons should feel pushed to the edge by the people that use them as a source of income. Minion of Zhaitan? You mean heavy loot bag. Cmere you get in mah pocket and be worth money later.
The risen have NOTHING on the Afflicted. The dragons PALE in comparison to Shiro or god forbid something like Kanaxai. Our enemies and our allies are all paper doll flat and we live in a world of grays.
The world itself is WONDEROUS. ITs beautiful. It’s vibrant and dank in all the right places and right times. But It is empty. I still play GW1, I still face off against real enemies.
A few guys in an apartment did it better and bringing in so many outside forces killed their game. I will continue to support it for my love of Tyria, but I’ll long be awaiting the day Tyria is truly in danger.
Oh yeah and give me my kittening Underworld and FoW back you kittens.
I had to re write this post a few times, I don’t know how to word how I feel about this game. I love it, I really do, or at least I love Tyria, Elona, Cantha etc.
I played GW1 from the get go, and I liked it, it was just something else. Got all the expansions, loved each and every one of them. Each one felt alive, a new continent and it was full of lore, and people.
GW2 just seems so pale in comparison, so devoid of meaning and strife. There is no depth to it. It seems like its just one big stall while the world circles the drain to closure. I would LITERALLY. FREIKEN LITERALLY CRY if July 1st came out, and on the map was a Mission Marker marking a mission for travel to Cantha.
I miss the story, I miss the PEOPLE. I miss the NPC FREIKEN PEOPLE.
I don’t feel pushed to the edge by the dragons, I feel like the dragons should feel pushed to the edge by the people that use them as a source of income. Minion of Zhaitan? You mean heavy loot bag. Cmere you get in mah pocket and be worth money later.
The risen have NOTHING on the Afflicted. The dragons PALE in comparison to Shiro or god forbid something like Kanaxai. Our enemies and our allies are all paper doll flat and we live in a world of grays.
The world itself is WONDEROUS. ITs beautiful. It’s vibrant and dank in all the right places and right times. But It is empty. I still play GW1, I still face off against real enemies.
A few guys in an apartment did it better and bringing in so many outside forces killed their game. I will continue to support it for my love of Tyria, but I’ll long be awaiting the day Tyria is truly in danger.
Oh yeah and give me my kittening Underworld and FoW back you kittens.
The Gods are gone from the world. Why would there be FoW and UW, when the Gods are not represented in the world? Also, the Temple of the Ages is a ruin in the middle of the swamp in Queensdale.
I feel GW2 is more alive than GW1. Why? The instancing – GW1 cities were just a glorified lobby (like Battle.net for D2 and D3). That to me does not feel alive any more. I have evolved and moved on.
I still play GW1, more for the remembrance factor but that is all.
Technically yes it is, but don’t expect too much cross over. The GW2 team seems to want to focus on their own stories and give little acknowledgment to the original game (besides some lip service and occasional references)
Personally, it doesn’t even feel like the same planet to me.
Unfortunately I’m coming to terms with the fact that it might be true.
I hope season 2 gives us more ties to GW1 lore. I hope we see more returning elements ( especially armor and weapons).Here’s hoping.
There are SO many ties to GW1 in GW2 already. I can see many people did not read the novels put out in the interim between the games, as that covers much of the lore and how GW2 got the way it is.
I have also found so many little clues around GW2, such as the clues about Cantha in the Priory office in Destiny’s Reach, etc. They are there if you want to look and take the time to read them all.
I have read all three and every piece of content they have released since. I also understand it is 250 years later so things are bound to be different. But having played these games since 2006 I can say with some sort of understanding that GW2 is not making real substantial attempts to tie itself to GW1’s lore. Sure they have minor references hidden in book carts and in basements of the libraries. But to use a poor cooking analogy, I feel like GW2 has some GW1 flavoring sprinkled on it instead of displaying it as a major portion.
I think this is a missed opportunity. This game lacks depths as it is. That’s going to happen to any new MMO. However, the Guild Wars franchise has real depth and a wonderfully full universe and GW2 could tap into that a lot more than they currently are.
The problem is the majority of GW1 is human centric. There are other races in this game. The story is on a much larger scale now as it includes all races of Tyria. Just just Tyria according to the humans. Due to this a lot of the human storyline can not be used unless a GW1 faction gets so powerful that they effect Tyria as a whole.
In Game: Storm Bluff Isle — Anzz, Anzenketh Kyoto
I had to re write this post a few times, I don’t know how to word how I feel about this game. I love it, I really do, or at least I love Tyria, Elona, Cantha etc.
I played GW1 from the get go, and I liked it, it was just something else. Got all the expansions, loved each and every one of them. Each one felt alive, a new continent and it was full of lore, and people.
GW2 just seems so pale in comparison, so devoid of meaning and strife. There is no depth to it. It seems like its just one big stall while the world circles the drain to closure. I would LITERALLY. FREIKEN LITERALLY CRY if July 1st came out, and on the map was a Mission Marker marking a mission for travel to Cantha.
I miss the story, I miss the PEOPLE. I miss the NPC FREIKEN PEOPLE.
I don’t feel pushed to the edge by the dragons, I feel like the dragons should feel pushed to the edge by the people that use them as a source of income. Minion of Zhaitan? You mean heavy loot bag. Cmere you get in mah pocket and be worth money later.
The risen have NOTHING on the Afflicted. The dragons PALE in comparison to Shiro or god forbid something like Kanaxai. Our enemies and our allies are all paper doll flat and we live in a world of grays.
The world itself is WONDEROUS. ITs beautiful. It’s vibrant and dank in all the right places and right times. But It is empty. I still play GW1, I still face off against real enemies.
A few guys in an apartment did it better and bringing in so many outside forces killed their game. I will continue to support it for my love of Tyria, but I’ll long be awaiting the day Tyria is truly in danger.
Oh yeah and give me my kittening Underworld and FoW back you kittens.
The Gods are gone from the world. Why would there be FoW and UW, when the Gods are not represented in the world? Also, the Temple of the Ages is a ruin in the middle of the swamp in Queensdale.
I feel GW2 is more alive than GW1. Why? The instancing – GW1 cities were just a glorified lobby (like Battle.net for D2 and D3). That to me does not feel alive any more. I have evolved and moved on.
I still play GW1, more for the remembrance factor but that is all.
I get the lore and I understand. But I miss it. I miss the depth of culture and religion present in the world. I loved the idea of a GW sequel and I was happy to hear about GW2, but it seems like the buried the old and built a new Tyria on top of it without looking back.
And on the subject of lore, shouldn’t skills like Hounds of Balthazar, Reaper of Grenth, Prayer to Kormir, Prayer to Lysaa, Prayer to Dwayna etc have no effect in a world without Gods?? Lore is tentative at best, what has left may return. What was corrupted can be cleansed. I would join an army to march on a corrupted God and to bring them back to Tyria, to make a meaningful change that isn’t done simply so I can trade in some purple drank for Obsidian Shards. I would happily traverse the underworld and resurrect Grenth or Dhuum if it meant I got to see someone get Dhuumed for hacking now and then. GOD would I pay money to see someone get Dhuumed.
I agree though on some points, the gw2 community is MASSIVE, but I want us to be given a challenge, things are stale, easy, complacent. I want to see the might of creatures that change the world. The dragons are currently just a source of income, I only ever felt challenged by Teq the first day of his rework, that was a step in the right direction.
I had to re write this post a few times, I don’t know how to word how I feel about this game. I love it, I really do, or at least I love Tyria, Elona, Cantha etc.
I played GW1 from the get go, and I liked it, it was just something else. Got all the expansions, loved each and every one of them. Each one felt alive, a new continent and it was full of lore, and people.
GW2 just seems so pale in comparison, so devoid of meaning and strife. There is no depth to it. It seems like its just one big stall while the world circles the drain to closure. I would LITERALLY. FREIKEN LITERALLY CRY if July 1st came out, and on the map was a Mission Marker marking a mission for travel to Cantha.
I miss the story, I miss the PEOPLE. I miss the NPC FREIKEN PEOPLE.
I don’t feel pushed to the edge by the dragons, I feel like the dragons should feel pushed to the edge by the people that use them as a source of income. Minion of Zhaitan? You mean heavy loot bag. Cmere you get in mah pocket and be worth money later.
The risen have NOTHING on the Afflicted. The dragons PALE in comparison to Shiro or god forbid something like Kanaxai. Our enemies and our allies are all paper doll flat and we live in a world of grays.
The world itself is WONDEROUS. ITs beautiful. It’s vibrant and dank in all the right places and right times. But It is empty. I still play GW1, I still face off against real enemies.
A few guys in an apartment did it better and bringing in so many outside forces killed their game. I will continue to support it for my love of Tyria, but I’ll long be awaiting the day Tyria is truly in danger.
Oh yeah and give me my kittening Underworld and FoW back you kittens.
The Gods are gone from the world. Why would there be FoW and UW, when the Gods are not represented in the world? Also, the Temple of the Ages is a ruin in the middle of the swamp in Queensdale.
I feel GW2 is more alive than GW1. Why? The instancing – GW1 cities were just a glorified lobby (like Battle.net for D2 and D3). That to me does not feel alive any more. I have evolved and moved on.
I still play GW1, more for the remembrance factor but that is all.
I get the lore and I understand. But I miss it. I miss the depth of culture and religion present in the world. I loved the idea of a GW sequel and I was happy to hear about GW2, but it seems like the buried the old and built a new Tyria on top of it without looking back.
And on the subject of lore, shouldn’t skills like Hounds of Balthazar, Reaper of Grenth, Prayer to Kormir, Prayer to Lysaa, Prayer to Dwayna etc have no effect in a world without Gods?? Lore is tentative at best, what has left may return. What was corrupted can be cleansed. I would join an army to march on a corrupted God and to bring them back to Tyria, to make a meaningful change that isn’t done simply so I can trade in some purple drank for Obsidian Shards. I would happily traverse the underworld and resurrect Grenth or Dhuum if it meant I got to see someone get Dhuumed for hacking now and then. GOD would I pay money to see someone get Dhuumed.
I agree though on some points, the gw2 community is MASSIVE, but I want us to be given a challenge, things are stale, easy, complacent. I want to see the might of creatures that change the world. The dragons are currently just a source of income, I only ever felt challenged by Teq the first day of his rework, that was a step in the right direction.
You have 4 other Races now not just the Human-centric one.
I think LS2 might give us a challenge.
I had to re write this post a few times, I don’t know how to word how I feel about this game. I love it, I really do, or at least I love Tyria, Elona, Cantha etc.
I played GW1 from the get go, and I liked it, it was just something else. Got all the expansions, loved each and every one of them. Each one felt alive, a new continent and it was full of lore, and people.
GW2 just seems so pale in comparison, so devoid of meaning and strife. There is no depth to it. It seems like its just one big stall while the world circles the drain to closure. I would LITERALLY. FREIKEN LITERALLY CRY if July 1st came out, and on the map was a Mission Marker marking a mission for travel to Cantha.
I miss the story, I miss the PEOPLE. I miss the NPC FREIKEN PEOPLE.
I don’t feel pushed to the edge by the dragons, I feel like the dragons should feel pushed to the edge by the people that use them as a source of income. Minion of Zhaitan? You mean heavy loot bag. Cmere you get in mah pocket and be worth money later.
The risen have NOTHING on the Afflicted. The dragons PALE in comparison to Shiro or god forbid something like Kanaxai. Our enemies and our allies are all paper doll flat and we live in a world of grays.
The world itself is WONDEROUS. ITs beautiful. It’s vibrant and dank in all the right places and right times. But It is empty. I still play GW1, I still face off against real enemies.
A few guys in an apartment did it better and bringing in so many outside forces killed their game. I will continue to support it for my love of Tyria, but I’ll long be awaiting the day Tyria is truly in danger.
Oh yeah and give me my kittening Underworld and FoW back you kittens.
The Gods are gone from the world. Why would there be FoW and UW, when the Gods are not represented in the world? Also, the Temple of the Ages is a ruin in the middle of the swamp in Queensdale.
I feel GW2 is more alive than GW1. Why? The instancing – GW1 cities were just a glorified lobby (like Battle.net for D2 and D3). That to me does not feel alive any more. I have evolved and moved on.
I still play GW1, more for the remembrance factor but that is all.
I get the lore and I understand. But I miss it. I miss the depth of culture and religion present in the world. I loved the idea of a GW sequel and I was happy to hear about GW2, but it seems like the buried the old and built a new Tyria on top of it without looking back.
And on the subject of lore, shouldn’t skills like Hounds of Balthazar, Reaper of Grenth, Prayer to Kormir, Prayer to Lysaa, Prayer to Dwayna etc have no effect in a world without Gods?? Lore is tentative at best, what has left may return. What was corrupted can be cleansed. I would join an army to march on a corrupted God and to bring them back to Tyria, to make a meaningful change that isn’t done simply so I can trade in some purple drank for Obsidian Shards. I would happily traverse the underworld and resurrect Grenth or Dhuum if it meant I got to see someone get Dhuumed for hacking now and then. GOD would I pay money to see someone get Dhuumed.
I agree though on some points, the gw2 community is MASSIVE, but I want us to be given a challenge, things are stale, easy, complacent. I want to see the might of creatures that change the world. The dragons are currently just a source of income, I only ever felt challenged by Teq the first day of his rework, that was a step in the right direction.
You have 4 other Races now not just the Human-centric one.
I think LS2 might give us a challenge.
Yeah and I LOVE THEM. They were what fleshed out the GW1 universe. They all had ideals, the Charr were enslaved by their faith and we freed them from their Flame Legion gods. The asura are a bit more sociable now, the sylvari stem from places I’ve BEEN. ITs great, but I just don’t feel the continuity. I just feel they can be deeper and more meaningful. I think the human culture should be expanded on and I think all of them should be expanded on truthfully. I feel like we’ve just touched the surface on what these cultures are. I would like the scope of GW1 brought back to GW2.
And yes I hope LS2 turns out to be challenging or a step towards GW1 a little bit. I love GW2 and I think its gorgeous. The LS team has a lot of resources to draw from and I’d like to see them start using them.
The universe of GW2 as presented in all the lead-in material to the game seemed amazing and a suitable evolution of the events of GW… Granted I wasn’t a huge fan of much of the GW lore [particularly Cantha], but it did have its charm.
What we got though… Not so much. The feel and tone is substantially different, a lot of the remaining connections just feel there for the sake of being there (some of the historians in particular just seem like they’re spouting random blurbs from the wiki rather than reciting their culture’s history) and the story is… Well, the story of GW2 has ended up being quite terrible as a whole, so I guess expecting much out of that would be kind of daft (seriously… I remember when the dragon’s were supposed to be cool. **** you Zhaitan, your zombie anti-aircraft guns, and your wandering eye. **** you Victurus and all of you other conscious minions… And **** you Primordus for feeling like you’re now some kind of lame afterthought)…
Honestly, at this point though, short of a complete do-over or some DEM that would allow them to completely shift gears, I don’t think anything could really be done about it…
Gone for good after Halloween 2Ø12.
A shame fun things could not simply be fun.
A shame fun things could not simply be fun.
Remember, it is OVER 250 years from GW1. Also read the GW novels – they fill in much of the story. Since they are out there to read, A.Net probably felt they did not have to fill in the storyline.
Much can change in 250 years.
A lot can change in 250 years thats true. I don’t expect everything to be the same, but I expect the bones to be there. And I just don’t find them, it feels like the dev team just wanted new. Come look at our :
NEW approach to dungeon gear
NEW approach to Content Development
NEW approach to combat
NEW approach to gold earning
NEW approach to skills
etc etc, it just seems like with all the new and acclaimed systems they wanted to put out they forgot about the bones that go them where they were. Everything just feels flat and I’m not posting all this to make others think its flat, its a to each his own kind of argument. I love Tyria, I love the Gods, I love the races. But I don’t love how flat and boring they seem to be. I haven’t found a single character thats been interesting to me, and this INCLUDES my own characters. I don’t feel connected, I don’t feel like anything I do has any effect on the way the world behaves or changes.