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Posted by: RoyalPredator.9163

RoyalPredator.9163

I would like to see the SKIN’s NAMES clearly. As was before!
For example, “Azureflame” instead of “Zojja’s Greatbow of Fail”
Guess I’m not alone with this… Please support me! w/+1

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Posted by: D best.3547

D best.3547

I would like to see the SKIN’s NAMES clearly. As was before!
For example, “Azureflame” instead of “Zojja’s Greatbow of Fail”
Guess I’m not alone with this… Please support me! w/+1

I’m sorry to say this is literally impossible the name of the original item must be kept here is an example why. In PvP there is a skin which shares the same as the precursor “The Hunter” the only ways to get this skin was through PvP before or by owning the precursor. If the name of my rifle was to change back to the name of the skin I would have a precursor which I never had.

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Posted by: RaM.8523

RaM.8523

I’m sorry to say this is literally impossible the name of the original item must be kept here is an example why. In PvP there is a skin which shares the same as the precursor “The Hunter” the only ways to get this skin was through PvP before or by owning the precursor. If the name of my rifle was to change back to the name of the skin I would have a precursor which I never had.

But in PvP that rifle has another name, so in the skin you should have the PvP name.
Then if you find The Hunter you shoud get another skin IMO.

I’m with Royal with this, it hurts me to see my beloved Volcanus named Zojja’s Claymore :\

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Posted by: zMajc.4659

zMajc.4659

sPVP and PVE skins got merged. There is only one “The Hunter” skin now. Ask me i have the skin unlocked from sPVP but never owned the pve version.

If items kept skin names i could transmute a precursor skin to a white weapon and technicalyl gain a precursor.

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Posted by: Pandaman.4758

Pandaman.4758

If items kept skin names i could transmute a precursor skin to a white weapon and technicalyl gain a precursor.

How so? Even in the previous transmutation system you could (if you were extremely drunk) transmute The Hunter onto a white rifle and the mystic forge would not recognize it as a precusor; you’ll get the appearance, the name, even the little flavor text (if any), but the game was always able to tell what the base item was even when everything else about it changed.

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Posted by: Lishtenbird.2814

Lishtenbird.2814

Agreed. I want my Whisperblade, Vision of The Mists and Anomaly instead of Zojja’s Claymore and other whatever names they have.

Why? Because we’ve always named things according to how they look.

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Posted by: maledicus.2360

maledicus.2360

I’m with the thread -starter here, what have you done anet? All items we transmuted before the patch now show the name of the item that delivered the stats instead of the skin-name.

If it was intended, pls change it! If it’s a bug, pls repair it!

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Posted by: Blix.8021

Blix.8021

yeah, it’s harder to sort through things if your armor came from different sources, like if you have zerker gear from both cof and coe.

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Posted by: Keal Mindblaster.5783

Keal Mindblaster.5783

Guys, HUGE +1 on this one.

I don’t want a ‘Pearl-Spear of Mother of God blah’ … I want my Al’ir’aska back

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Posted by: zMajc.4659

zMajc.4659

If items kept skin names i could transmute a precursor skin to a white weapon and technicalyl gain a precursor.

How so? Even in the previous transmutation system you could (if you were extremely drunk) transmute The Hunter onto a white rifle and the mystic forge would not recognize it as a precusor; you’ll get the appearance, the name, even the little flavor text (if any), but the game was always able to tell what the base item was even when everything else about it changed.

Ahh, then the new change makes no sense.

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Posted by: zMajc.4659

zMajc.4659

If items kept skin names i could transmute a precursor skin to a white weapon and technicalyl gain a precursor.

How so? Even in the previous transmutation system you could (if you were extremely drunk) transmute The Hunter onto a white rifle and the mystic forge would not recognize it as a precusor; you’ll get the appearance, the name, even the little flavor text (if any), but the game was always able to tell what the base item was even when everything else about it changed.

Ahh, then the new change makes no sense.

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Posted by: Sera.6539

Sera.6539

Not to mention this change makes no sense for the items that had no base stats in the first place. All the named backpiece skins, the random armor pieces (Fused/Dragon Helmets/etc.), any SAB weapon. There’s also T3 cultural armor, which you’re pretty much encouraged to transmute, because the stats aren’t even exotic (I think this is affected, but I could only play for about 15 min after the patch hit).

If they were able to display it this way, they clearly already had the data so we could unlock the skins. Why not just take the new name of the item, and have the text in the description be “Original (or Base): ________”

I use equipment names to swap equipment quickly. Can’t really do that as easily now.

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Posted by: Flissy.4093

Flissy.4093

I do +1. Little annoying change, and one of my only gripes about the patch.

My Ranger’s Kamohoali’i is now a “Vital Iron Spear”

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Posted by: shadow.6174

shadow.6174

Yeah, for me it got worse. I have 3 different transmuted backpieces (Wings of the Sunles, Holografic “whatever” Wing and another one) and are all with the same name now (a cheap lvl 70 backpiece that I can’t recall which name). Also, after transmutation they became rare, now one is masterwork.

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Posted by: Basket of Boxes.1976

Basket of Boxes.1976

Its something I am sure they will fix but I actually hope they don’t. If it even makes it so there is one less kitten pinging their gear in map chat I am all for it. People can see your weapon, only you can read what it is called unless you go around showing off in map chat.

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Posted by: zMajc.4659

zMajc.4659

Its something I am sure they will fix but I actually hope they don’t. If it even makes it so there is one less kitten pinging their gear in map chat I am all for it. People can see your weapon, only you can read what it is called unless you go around showing off in map chat.

It will result it less bragging in map chat for sure. ><

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Posted by: wasted.6817

wasted.6817

Yea, it doesn’t make sense. A mithril sword called molten blade? Wat? Sometimes one can only wonder, wth is going on inside AN when things like are getting through.

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Posted by: Pifil.5193

Pifil.5193

I would like to see the SKIN’s NAMES clearly. As was before!
For example, “Azureflame” instead of “Zojja’s Greatbow of Fail”
Guess I’m not alone with this… Please support me! w/+1

I’m sorry to say this is literally impossible the name of the original item must be kept here is an example why. In PvP there is a skin which shares the same as the precursor “The Hunter” the only ways to get this skin was through PvP before or by owning the precursor. If the name of my rifle was to change back to the name of the skin I would have a precursor which I never had.

I know someone has already cleard this up but if what you were saying was true then changing the skin would change the stats too.

The name is purely for display purposes. The underlying weapon/armour’s identity (a unique ID number) is maintained in the databases, so regardless of what’s displayed (and the skin being shown) the game knows it’s really a “Berserkers Pearl Rifle” (with an ID of X) with the skin from “The Hunter” (with an ID of Y) and not actually “The Hunter” itself.

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Posted by: Deimos Tel Arin.7391

Deimos Tel Arin.7391

i want my fellblade, ithas bow, ice breaker, etc back. : (

please give me back my fellblade! : (

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Posted by: Sithis.3564

Sithis.3564

So I made myself a Firebringer and I’m on my way to make Azureflame but I can’t even reskin them now.

This new wardrobe system is a mess.

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Posted by: Turtle Dragon.9241

Turtle Dragon.9241

All they have to do is change where the name displays.

Example of a Weapon Layout:
Zojja’s Trident
Weapon Strength 950-1050
+188 Power
+134 Precision
+134 Ferocity
Sigil Slot 1
Sigil Slot 2
Infusion Slot 1
Infusion Slot 2
Transmuted Zenith Trident
Ascended
Trident
(Two-Handed)
Required Level: 80
Account Bound

Just swap the bolded parts.

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Posted by: ThiBash.5634

ThiBash.5634

I don’t like it either, but compared to some of the other stuff, this is minor.

If you can read this then it is proof that ArenaNet’s moderators just, kind and fair.

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Posted by: Sithis.3564

Sithis.3564

It is a minor but it’s an eyesore. That’s why it’s so bad.

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Posted by: RoyalPredator.9163

RoyalPredator.9163

Only the name and look of SKIN matters, right?
This is what the Wardrobe and Dyes are about…

So if we have a nice skin like Fellblade or Dhuumseal or whatevs, it needs to have their own name. Yes it’s a sharp eyesore…
Even worse than they removed the charismatics…

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Posted by: Ceridwen.6703

Ceridwen.6703

I’d love to have my Jormag’s Breath labelled as such again. Not Berserker’s Pearl Sabre of the Berserker Pearl Sabre, or whatever it is now. Unless we’re actually saying stats are now more important than the skins (forgive me for thinking that it was sort of the other way around when it came to shinies in the game). It’s not actually game breaking, just a small disappointment.

“Ph’nglui mglw’nafh Steve R’lyeh wgah’nagl fhtagn.”

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Posted by: Draknar.5748

Draknar.5748

Boy, some of the things you guys get upset about….

I’ve never looked at someone and wondered “what’s the name of their weapon???” It’s usually “hey cool skin, where/how did you get it”. You can still call your weapons whatever you want….in your heart.

I won’t stop because I can’t stop.

It’s a medical condition, they say its terminal….

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Posted by: Valento.9852

Valento.9852

Only the name and look of SKIN matters, right?
This is what the Wardrobe and Dyes are about…

So if we have a nice skin like Fellblade or Dhuumseal or whatevs, it needs to have their own name. Yes it’s a sharp eyesore…
Even worse than they removed the charismatics…

Eww… if it’s just a name switch, it does matter because it’s simple… change how the game interprets the code and that’s it.

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Posted by: Sephas.8793

Sephas.8793

Yeah, I’m in the same boat. My beloved Moonshine, is now called Etched Skidgel of Whatever. I have the look of Moonshine, but not the name. So when someone asks me what kind of mace I have, I link to it and it doesn’t reflect what it really is…

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Posted by: Devildoc.6721

Devildoc.6721

Fully agreed, the items need to have the name of the skin we use as before. People can just mouse over the link to see the stats. When someone asks you “hey what’s that weapon?” they are talking about the skin not the base item..

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Posted by: Valento.9852

Valento.9852

Oh guys, just to point it out in case you don’t know… you can Ctrl+Link WARDROBE skins directly on the chat, simple mouse clicking automatically previews the item… maybe that’s the replacement? It’s not bad actually.

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Posted by: Invictus.1503

Invictus.1503

There are a few posts on this (one I created) and it is very annoying. They use to do it this way with the old transmutation method. It is especially bad for items like the Mad Kings Memoirs as you also lose all the flavor text that goes along with it.

It’s better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.

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Posted by: Lil Puppy.5216

Lil Puppy.5216

It’s funny cause the names that you see (aside from the bugged ones and they’re obvious) are the actual skin names. There’s like 30 different names for Iron Sword, exact same skin but each karma vendor has it’s own name for it. Same with armors. Get used to it, if your preferred skin name isn’t in the wardrobe name list, you’re going to get what the wardrobe says it’s called.

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Posted by: Sera.6539

Sera.6539

It’s funny cause the names that you see (aside from the bugged ones and they’re obvious) are the actual skin names. There’s like 30 different names for Iron Sword, exact same skin but each karma vendor has it’s own name for it. Same with armors. Get used to it, if your preferred skin name isn’t in the wardrobe name list, you’re going to get what the wardrobe says it’s called.

Maybe I’m interpreting your post wrongly. We’re bothered by the items we transmuted to get the name and look of an item, with the stats of another. With the patch, it takes the base stats item name, and the look of the other.

For instance, Wings of Dwayna. The default stats are:
+179 Healing Power
+128 Power
+128 Toughness
Superior Sigil of Life

Not [many] people are going to use that stat setup, so some may transmute to a berserker weapon for instance. Before the patch (this is my case-not generalizing), it was called Wings of Dwayna with the stats of a Molten Longbow. Now, it’s called Molten Longbow, with the look of Wings of Dwayna. It’s pretty much the same thing, in a technical sense. But the name is something we want to be able to choose. We basically want to flip the name of the item, and the one after the Transmuted line.

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Posted by: Invictus.1503

Invictus.1503

It’s funny cause the names that you see (aside from the bugged ones and they’re obvious) are the actual skin names. There’s like 30 different names for Iron Sword, exact same skin but each karma vendor has it’s own name for it. Same with armors. Get used to it, if your preferred skin name isn’t in the wardrobe name list, you’re going to get what the wardrobe says it’s called.

Maybe I’m interpreting your post wrongly. We’re bothered by the items we transmuted to get the name and look of an item, with the stats of another. With the patch, it takes the base stats item name, and the look of the other.

For instance, Wings of Dwayna. The default stats are:
+179 Healing Power
+128 Power
+128 Toughness
Superior Sigil of Life

Not [many] people are going to use that stat setup, so some may transmute to a berserker weapon for instance. Before the patch (this is my case-not generalizing), it was called Wings of Dwayna with the stats of a Molten Longbow. Now, it’s called Molten Longbow, with the look of Wings of Dwayna. It’s pretty much the same thing, in a technical sense. But the name is something we want to be able to choose. We basically want to flip the name of the item, and the one after the Transmuted line.

Bingo! (I had the same experience with Mad King’s Memoirs)

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Posted by: CursedShaitan.9720

CursedShaitan.9720

all my staffs are named bramblethorne now including Death Wish, and Final Rest. In fact every staff I make from now on will be called bramblethorne because I only have use for rabid stats on staffs. I was working towards the crossing but i’m not going to bother if its just going to be another bramblethorne.

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Posted by: Sithis.3564

Sithis.3564

I wonder if they even gonna look at this problem..

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Posted by: flipyap.5789

flipyap.5789

Let me put this into perspective, lets say you own a blue car, and you decide to paint it red. yes its a blue car underneath, but you can’t call it a blue car, because it abviously appears red.

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Posted by: PaxTheGreatOne.9472

PaxTheGreatOne.9472

+1

something with 15 characters which is realy annoying me, but less then the names on my weapons.

23 lvl 80’s, 9 times map, 4ele, 4ncr, 3war, 3grd, 3rgr, 2thf, 2msm, 1eng, 1 rev.
Been There, Done That & Will do it again…except maybe world completion.

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Posted by: Invictus.1503

Invictus.1503

Just saw a person with the Wings of Dwayne that is named Tempered Spinal Blades. He was rather P.O.ed

It’s better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.

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Posted by: Astral Projections.7320

Astral Projections.7320

I think it should give the skin name also. If someone asks me about a weapon I have, “meaning what’s the name of that skin?” and I ping it and it has the stats name, that’s not what they want to know.

With 8 level 80s, each with their own assortment of skins, most acquired a year or so back, I might not remember the exact name of a skin to tell them.

Edit: we might be able to ping the skin off the wardrobe though. I would have to check.

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Posted by: junho.7825

junho.7825

This issue bothers me so much. Plz fix this problem as it was before the patch

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Posted by: Lagg.3960

Lagg.3960

10 minutes of work, 10000 happy transmuters.

Attachments:

Hey, I just bash you, and this is frenzy,
But here’s my Wammo, so heal me maybe?

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Posted by: Leamas.5803

Leamas.5803

Is the current naming convention on transmuted items intended functionality or a bug? It just doesn’t seem to make sense to me the way it is now, post patch.

So I bought a Sclerite GS skin and applied it to a Berserker’s Pearl Broadsword, though I never used a Pearl broadsword because it’s ugly, I likely just brought the cheapest GS with the stats I wanted. It looks like a Sclerite GS, feels like a Sclerite GS, and I certainly payed enough for it, should the name not be something like “Berserker’s Sclerite Broadsword of Bloodlust” rather than “Berserker’s Pearl Broadsword of Bloodlust”? The “pearl” has nothing to do with the sword anymore since it’s only a skin itself.

Likewise, I have a transmuted staff that should be “Emberspire”, not “Knight’s Pearl Quaterstaff of Torment”. Again, “pearl” is only the original skin.

All my other transmuted items also suffer the same issue, armor name shows as draconic rather than primeval, Severed Dagger now shows as “Carrion Tribal Dagger of Malice”.

These names have nothing to do with the current items. “Pearl”, “Draconic”, “Tribal”, etc, these are just skin names and make no sense.

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Posted by: SrebX.6498

SrebX.6498

Having the same problem and it’s really annoyin … Thumbs up for name determined by skin.

[EG] Ethereal Guardians, Fort Aspenwood
Violette Glory [Warrior]
Bala Rama [Herald]

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Posted by: Sithis.3564

Sithis.3564

On the same boat, no response from devs unfortunately.

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Posted by: Gandolfi.1507

Gandolfi.1507

This is important in a game where we work for horizontal and cosmetic progression – it will certainly put me off transmuting any weapons until this is fixed.

I was particularly looking forward to using the Fused Greatsword skin soulbound to my guardian on my warrior – but it won’t be the same if it loses the name, it would just seem fake in some way.

I’m really enjoying the majority of the other features in the patch, but +1 for hoping the devs sort this out soon.

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Posted by: Belzebu.3912

Belzebu.3912

I think it is working as intended, it feels fake because it IS fake.
I transmuted my frostfang skin into my zojja’s axe, I don’t expect my zojja’s axe to appear as “frostfang” when I ping it.

If you added the Sclerite skin into a Pearl weapon, it is still a Pearl weapon.

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Posted by: Thereon.3495

Thereon.3495

Posted about this yesterday but happy to post in another thread to get some attention from the devs!

I dont understand how if ten people transmute a a Zoija’s ascended armour set into ten completely different skinned sets they are all still called Zoija’s. How is this a positive addition to the game? A lot has been made of making things easier for new players to understand…. how is this easier?

Because of this change ive actually lost two keepsakes of mine- the Mad King Slippers and a rifle skin ive had since Day 2 called the Potent Avenger. Both are now named after the thing I transmuted them to. Whats even worse is that because they share the same skin as a common item (Human T2 rifle I think and the generic heavy boots) the name has even been removed from the Skin Name listed on the item. All I now see is ‘Seraph Rifle’ as the skin, which isnt true.

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Posted by: Leamas.5803

Leamas.5803

If you added the Sclerite skin into a Pearl weapon, it is still a Pearl weapon.

No…it’s a Berserker weapon…pearl is the skin, which has been replaced.

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Posted by: Sithis.3564

Sithis.3564

If you added the Sclerite skin into a Pearl weapon, it is still a Pearl weapon.

No…it’s a Berserker weapon…pearl is the skin, which has been replaced.

Doesn’t matter, its’ a Screlite weapon now which means it’s not Pearl anymore.

Anyway, the new transmutation system is hilatious. Imagine if I take an Ascalonian sword and reskin it with a fine Orrian skin? How will that make sense?

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