Guild Wars 2

Here’s another of us setting off fireworks after a good duel.

its nice that you guys are having fun.

and if there are enough people on both sides, trouble makers can be easily dealt with.

Nice idea. Until some idiot guild starts camping it for free kills.

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

its nice that you guys are having fun.

and if there are enough people on both sides, trouble makers can be easily dealt with.

Yep, a couple people came in swinging, but they got taken down very quick.

Aristio.2784:

Nice idea. Until some idiot guild starts camping it for free kills.

I’ve taken part in most of the dueling groups that happen in BL south camp, or the EB JP, and when something like this happens the duel usually stops, and everyone part of the group goes and wails on attackers and makes it easy stomps, and then goes back to dueling like nothing happened.

Darx.9842:

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

its nice that you guys are having fun.

and if there are enough people on both sides, trouble makers can be easily dealt with.

Yep, a couple people came in swinging, but they got taken down very quick.

except they probably have no idea what yall are doing, and are playing the game as it normally is.
I m not opposed to duels, but really dont go hating people who have no idea, and are playing the game normally for not knowing or caring about some outside of game agreements.

That said, i think that the Devs should be working on place for this type of thing in WvW, i think they should have some special objectives for different types of pvp, or different instances. WvW is fun, but it could really use some content expansion and development.

I can imagine an objective that is a large arena big enough for say 6 1 vs 1 matchups. the team that continues to win a higher % controls the objective for each tally. The WvW element comes in controlling access to the area, by defending the entry points they can limit the amount of players able to enter the arena (which basically doesnt allow pvp except in the matches). Uncontested wins count as wins for tally purposes, but not personal rewards.

string of wins can award increasing personal rewards, and area anouncements.

For me and members of my guild players using up WvW spaces to ‘duel’ each other at the expense of our WvW events became a real issue before we moved server. If you would like to duel then the place to do so is sPvP when they introduce the private instances. Im all for people having fun but when it disrupts others who just want to come on and actually participate in WvW then im against it.

Thereon.3495:

For me and members of my guild players using up WvW spaces to ‘duel’ each other at the expense of our WvW events became a real issue before we moved server. If you would like to duel then the place to do so is sPvP when they introduce the private instances. Im all for people having fun but when it disrupts others who just want to come on and actually participate in WvW then im against it.

This. I’m all for you guys having fun and wouldn’t go out of my way to disrupt it…

But I’d be annoyed to be sitting in a queue because some BL is taken up with duellers.

If this ever happens on my server’s match up, I’m going to find my way over, and mist-form STOMP any and all participants. I will find ways to disrupt the entire process over and over again. Why? Because this is NOT Warhammer Online (where they did this bull droppings thing a lot) and this kind of buddy-buddy 1 on 1 is NOT what WvWvW is design for. Because, it’s designed for massive fights between each servers with full enemy in mind (no, they’re not friendly sparing matches).

If you want that kind of 1vs1 fights. Go into the Heart of the Mists and start an empty server with just you and the opponent for the duel. Nobody wants to join a 2 person server, and you get the opportunity to duel. Good luck.

Sweet idea, more things like this will show successful ideas to devs and hopefully be implemented!!

Siphaed.9235:

If this ever happens on my server’s match up, I’m going to find my way over, and mist-form STOMP any and all participants. I will find ways to disrupt the entire process over and over again. Why? Because this is NOT Warhammer Online (where they did this bull droppings thing a lot) and this kind of buddy-buddy 1 on 1 is NOT what WvWvW is design for. Because, it’s designed for massive fights between each servers with full enemy in mind (no, they’re not friendly sparing matches).

If you want that kind of 1vs1 fights. Go into the Heart of the Mists and start an empty server with just you and the opponent for the duel. Nobody wants to join a 2 person server, and you get the opportunity to duel. Good luck.

well you see, the stats allocation in PvE-WvW and sPvP is very different …

In GW1 this would count as match manipulation and result in a perma ban

No, it wouldn’t.

Match manipulation affects scores, this doesn’t.

This is equivalent to doing dodgeball in gw1 through the scrimmage system.

The only problem with 1v1 is that its going to appear one class is superior to all others and than everyone is going to complain and want buff to their class and nerf to the supposedly OP class. I love 1v1 fights but i know why they don’t have them

Draygo.9473:

No, it wouldn’t.

Match manipulation affects scores, this doesn’t.

This is equivalent to doing dodgeball in gw1 through the scrimmage system.

You basically trade wExp with the enemy, this is an abuse of the system.

kokiman.2364:

Draygo.9473:

No, it wouldn’t.

Match manipulation affects scores, this doesn’t.

This is equivalent to doing dodgeball in gw1 through the scrimmage system.

You basically trade wExp with the enemy, this is an abuse of the system.

Only if you agree to lose. If you’re actually fighting for it, I’m not thinking it’s trading with the enemy.

^ exactly, also in fight clubs (which is what these are called) if you are dueling often you are worth 0 wxp anyway. Dueling is not an efficient way to gain wxp by any means. Farming a pve event in wvw over and over on respawn would probably get you more wxp per hour.

OP forgetting the first 2 rules of fight club.

Taking off your chest and boot armour pieces should be mandatory!

Wouldn’t a better place for duelling be in PvP?

You wouldn’t stop people getting into WvW that way, who you know wanted to fight the eternal war…

I suppose you would lose your audience but you could always youtube/stream the best fights?

I don’t think Wxp is abused by this but isn’t badges of honour?

Please feel free to inform us if there are any activities as these on my server (Underworld) so that I might take a group of people and destroy it.
There are already problems with queues in WvW, so why do you feel the need to stop real WvW:ers from doing WvW by doing something completely useless for the server?

You know this will bring drama once everyone starts to know it? I’ve seen it in several games before. For example in lotro there used to be an unofficial duel area on my server, but every once in a while a raid would come and wipe it for points and lulz, followed by countless forum threads. With current WXP mechanics I doubt it will be different here.

On top of that, as several others already mentioned, you’re not actually playing WvW, not contributing to the war effort. You’re taking spots and being “useless”, then again as long as the JP exists that isn’t a very strong argument.

Darx.9842:

Many of us want dueling. And since it has not been implemented yet, I propose we the players, set an area in WvW that players can come and peacefully duel 1 on 1, no stomps.

We have been doing this since last year release. Usually SW tower just over the swamp in the valley there. There is the SE tower area, towards the ent, but the terrain is a bit rough so rare to happen there. Don’t think we’ll be moving it, but nice you found the action

Oh as for “taking spots” it’s usually in off hours when things slow down. It’s been a bit more active lately though, with people grinding those ranks and doing the monthly, so not too active right now with dueling that I’ve seen. But it’ll slow down again.

That spot is also used for GvG matches btw

Thereon.3495:

For me and members of my guild players using up WvW spaces to ‘duel’ each other at the expense of our WvW events became a real issue before we moved server. If you would like to duel then the place to do so is sPvP when they introduce the private instances. Im all for people having fun but when it disrupts others who just want to come on and actually participate in WvW then im against it.

The problem is some people (me included) don’t like PvP in this game. It feels like a different game altogether. I am not connected to my character there.

It’s so much more satisfying to kill someone in WvW (one on one) than in PvP. Also if someone kills you, you take it more personally.

I would love to see some smaller WvW maps (like jumping puzzle in Eternal Battlegrounds) where small scale fights would take place, no zerg.

Chalk me up as another against. Don’t like the idea of holding WvW spots as well as loot/WXP trading. Can’t counter holding spots with the JPs as people usually either do them right quick and help or only come because their side has ports and are in and out in minutes. Duelers usually stick around for a several fights at least. WXP trading is simple enough with just waiting a bit between. You can’t stop getting loot outside of just not picking it up.

Duels should be contained to the SPvP Mists. If they ever enable such a direct duel feature, I would hope it would be contained there. I would think anyone truly dueling to test skill, etc, would agree.

SPvP you gain nothing but pride/shame, WvW you gain so much more. I totally see why you picked WvW.

It’s understandable that people on a server with queues would be kitten if you’re dueling.
The solution: transfer to NSP! (I’ve only seen queues in the hours after reset.) We could use the population!

Glad you’re having fun, but do it somewhere else please, as it takes away from the number of people who actually WANT to do WvWvW and are forced to queue because of you lot. There’s a max limit of players that WvWvW can house, everyone not participating in the activity is actually hindering their server. Next time I see that I’m reporting that to our deathball. Leave or enjoy repairing armour.

Veldan.4637:

You’re taking spots and being “useless”, then again as long as the JP exists that isn’t a very strong argument.

I’ve rarely seen more than 10 ppl total in JPs in either BL or EB. This, however, is magnitudes more judging by the screenshots.

A while back we had an unofficial dueling of all three servers at the top of the EB jumping puzzle. It was very weird where no one was attacking except for a few who were taken down quickly to keep the peace.

Every one was basically dueling to down state. No kill trading involved.

i fail to understand what the hubaloo of wxp/loot trading from dueling is being raised about. the OP clearly states (and I have witnessed and done so myself) that they only duel until one person reaches the DOWN STATE, not death. sure allies of the downed person rez him, if only to speed up the turnover process, but that’s the only interference i ever see, save for morons who interrupt such friendly duels.

This game simple needs somewhere in the game a “collosseum”, where players can duel in various kinds of matters. (gameplay modes)
I’d place that collosseum for example somewhere into the near of divinities reach, north of it in a new explorable territory.

Survival = 1 players vs. monsters until death, so longer you survive, so better the rewards

1vs1 = Duels of even leveled 1 player against 1 player, same goes for 2vs2, 3vs3 and 4vs4
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1vs2, 1vs3, 2vs3, 2vs4 ,2vs5
These kinds of modes for duels of higher level players against multiple players with lower levels

Timed
Beating a series of monsters as quick as possible. So faster you are, so better the rewards.

Mixed Up > 1vs1 consisting either of monsters or other players randomously.

Daily Tournaments > Fix set up registered players wil fight in mini-tournaments 1vs1.
The one who wins that tournement, gets a bigger reward at the end.

People which know the .hack G.U games know surely, how such a kind of feature should work for GW2 about a collosseum.
This kind of collosseum could then be also divided up into 4 difficulties.

Bronze = Level 1-20
Silver = Level 21-40
Gold = Level 41-60
Platinum = Level 61-80

and could get increased maybe in future to a 5th and 6th difficulty if the level cap should get ever raised

Mithril > 81-90
Orihalcum > 91 to 100

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

Siphaed.9235:

If this ever happens on my server’s match up, I’m going to find my way over, and mist-form STOMP any and all participants. I will find ways to disrupt the entire process over and over again. Why? Because this is NOT Warhammer Online (where they did this bull droppings thing a lot) and this kind of buddy-buddy 1 on 1 is NOT what WvWvW is design for. Because, it’s designed for massive fights between each servers with full enemy in mind (no, they’re not friendly sparing matches).

If you want that kind of 1vs1 fights. Go into the Heart of the Mists and start an empty server with just you and the opponent for the duel. Nobody wants to join a 2 person server, and you get the opportunity to duel. Good luck.

well you see, the stats allocation in PvE-WvW and sPvP is very different …

Yup in Spvp you’ll be on a even playing ground stat wise were as WvW and PvE you will not be.

So by that definition Spvp is the best place to duel unless your just goofing around in which cause i doubt you care if your taking up spots for potential WvW players.

either way this just shows that Anet needs to implement a dueling system into open world pve play.

That’s my role playing area, get out of there. I like to go to the windmill and act like I’m farming. I ignore the fact that it’s wvw and there’s a large war going on around me where people are dying for the sake of my server’s reputation. The gentle wind on my hair as I harvest onions allows me to wind down the stress of killing spiders.

Seriously, let the big boys WvW and go to sPvP for your no-kill duels.

lordkrall.7241:

There are already problems with queues in WvW, so why do you feel the need to stop real WvW:ers from doing WvW by doing something completely useless for the server?

Yes, you would be taking up 1 spot and some other person who wants to do “legitimate” WvW might have to queue. However, the same is true for getting to vistas and POIs for the sake of world map completion, or through the jumping puzzles for the achievement – both of which are not only encouraged, but enabled by ANet.

(This is how I initially found my way into WvW, by the way. I am regularly taking up WvW spots in order to find out whether I have a chance to get to a certain vista, etc. Sorry or whoever has to queue, but I didn’t put the vista on the map.)

If this ^ isn’t seen as a large-scale problem, then I don’t see why dueling would be.

There is other problems with the queue that should be addressed: a threshold over the queue itself that would allow you to skip the queue after crashing, being taken directly to where you crashed instead of a PvE map / starting portal, etc. There are issues with queues; I believe dueling during off hours ain’t one of them.

Yes please Anet give us a dueling ring for WvW. We have asked for it since the game came out.

How about you give these egohounds a duel arena somewhere else, that way the WvW players don’t have to deal with the dead weight? Come on Anet make it happen!

if there was a down vote button i’d use it for the OP, personally i see this as a complete waste, and it interferes with WvW, all around just bad..

Fathme.5216:

if there was a down vote button i’d use it for the OP, personally i see this as a complete waste, and it interferes with WvW, all around just bad..

What do you think of jumping puzzle achievements and world map completion POIs, vistas & skill challenges?

Pixelpumpkin.4608:

Fathme.5216:

if there was a down vote button i’d use it for the OP, personally i see this as a complete waste, and it interferes with WvW, all around just bad..

What do you think of jumping puzzle achievements and world map completion POIs, vistas & skill challenges?

Irrelevant, please stay on topic or create one about JPs/PoIs. But yes having them in WvW is an awful idea

those are bad too but were implemented by anet and nothing can really be done about that, but sad to say community driven type of dueling like this only makes things worse, also these are very minor in my opinion….if we go get a keep or what have u ill quickly go get the vista, if i dont then no big deal, i dont divert for very long, maybe a minute total…

Fathme.5216:

those are bad too but were implemented by anet and nothing can really be done about that, but sad to say community driven type of dueling like this only makes things worse, also these are very minor in my opinion….if we go get a keep or what have u ill quickly go get the vista, if i dont then no big deal, i dont divert for very long, maybe a minute total…

Only if you disregard all the players who want map completion and are not remotely interested in WvW. They still have to come.

(Some of them turn into WvWers after – happened to me.)

Siphaed.9235:

If this ever happens on my server’s match up, I’m going to find my way over, and mist-form STOMP any and all participants. I will find ways to disrupt the entire process over and over again. Why? Because this is NOT Warhammer Online (where they did this bull droppings thing a lot) and this kind of buddy-buddy 1 on 1 is NOT what WvWvW is design for. Because, it’s designed for massive fights between each servers with full enemy in mind (no, they’re not friendly sparing matches).

If you want that kind of 1vs1 fights. Go into the Heart of the Mists and start an empty server with just you and the opponent for the duel. Nobody wants to join a 2 person server, and you get the opportunity to duel. Good luck.

I don’t think you’ll last long against 12+ people.

P.S. I like this idea. I really do. Making it in a Borderland area is a plus as well since most que for the Battlegrounds first.

Pixelpumpkin.4608:

Fathme.5216:

if there was a down vote button i’d use it for the OP, personally i see this as a complete waste, and it interferes with WvW, all around just bad..

What do you think of jumping puzzle achievements and world map completion POIs, vistas & skill challenges?

jumping puzzles in WvW serve a purpose, especially for cheap people, they give siege equipment. Controlling your JP is not a waste of time, you are signifigantly effecting the supply of the enemy. I remember one match up where one of our enemies camped the JP, suffice to say the siege in the field was a lot more barren. As far as vistas and poi, part of WvW is actually exploration as well, and people have to actually take part in seiges etc to get access to these points. So no, its not really the same.
Essentially if 400 people decide they want to do get a POI in a castle, that either means they will have to seige it, or it is already open, and they are only in WvW for the 5 min it takes to run there.

I have no problem with the idea of duel/dueling/etc, in fact properly implemented it would probably be a pretty cool feature, however dont act like 100 people dueling isnt going to effect WvW, and dont act like people actually playing the WvW game are trolls if they actually want to fight.

so many kittens up in a bundle hehe. Most long time wvw players already know this, you guys wvw that are complaining? If you are often in wvw, your map is quiet, no real action taking place, just head to the vader WP areas and you may find duels just outside their gates, 5-10-20 people there.. It’s not rocket science, just a break from slow boredom for wvw players. If you seldom or never wvw, then chances you won’t be around for it and not willing to wait. No que probs, and I doubt posting about it will draw in hoards of non-wvw players looking for duels. This should have been posted in wvw forum, less kittening there over the topic.

Siphaed.9235:

If this ever happens on my server’s match up, I’m going to find my way over, and mist-form STOMP any and all participants.

Nah, you won’t. The person would get revived immediately and you would be instantly murdered by everyone else.

Go take a breather. This is just a game. There’s no need to be so upset about it.

EvilSardine.9635:

Siphaed.9235:

If this ever happens on my server’s match up, I’m going to find my way over, and mist-form STOMP any and all participants.

Nah, you won’t. The person would get revived immediately and you would be instantly murdered by everyone else.

Go take a breather. This is just a game. There’s no need to be so upset about it.

haha now this sparking an actual war would be amusing to me. WvW zerg versus the duelists association, who would win? hmmm

Siphaed.9235:

If this ever happens on my server’s match up, I’m going to find my way over, and mist-form STOMP any and all participants. I will find ways to disrupt the entire process over and over again. Why? Because this is NOT Warhammer Online (where they did this bull droppings thing a lot) and this kind of buddy-buddy 1 on 1 is NOT what WvWvW is design for. Because, it’s designed for massive fights between each servers with full enemy in mind (no, they’re not friendly sparing matches).

If you want that kind of 1vs1 fights. Go into the Heart of the Mists and start an empty server with just you and the opponent for the duel. Nobody wants to join a 2 person server, and you get the opportunity to duel. Good luck.

Omg noo! wow!!!! big talker!!!!

Yeah, good luck with that. When we’ve had duel sessions (very respectful, well mannered, also fun) any duel disruptors got promptly teamed on and stomped out, then humiliated.

But yeah act tough then enjoy getting absolutely destroyed. Hopefully they kill you on sight every other time you show up (and when you want to start getting in on duels too)

I think it’s great that y’all did this.

I am on the fence, tho, as I see both sides. It’s fun, it’s a great way to meet new people and hone skills, but it isn’t what WvWvW was meant to accomplish.

With that being said, maybe the devs will get the hint that we need something like this in the system. Even Rift had an open world 1v1 dueling concept that allowed you to duke it out to your heart’s content with your best friend.

Oh How I miss YB and Mag, Fight clubs almost every night…… now we have to take a hold a tower if we want some “action”

Arena net…. stick these people in overflow servers and make an environment where people can improve ones skill in the game without the annoying waypoints to run all the way back into battle. Can you imagine a 5v5 where the goal is to down the other team? Have the match end on down. Do a first to 5 wins…first to 10 wins. That would be great.

Wait does something like this exist in pvp?