Guild Wars 2

It kills many possibility that we can’t cross-skinning.
If could, then we will have triple options to dress up our characters.

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Think they meant allow us to use any armor type in the wardrobe.

The problem is that the seams are completely different across all armor weights.

Khailyn.6248:

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I think he got his point across…

However, the reason as we can’t use all armor classes’ skins through each other is the way they’ve been built up (I believe). It would also cause massive clipping and people complaining about it. :/

As needs must be mentioned each time this comes up — it’s not the clipping, which is merely an aesthetics concern. It’s the underlying rigs that simply will not work together. Original game design had a somewhat different philosophy from what we would like to have today, and it’s baked into the code. There would be serious graphics issues if two different weights were equipped at the same time.

ok, my bad. for some reason i couldnt understand what they were talking about, but you all made it clearer. when the game first came out it was nice to have 2 distinctive armor weights, but considering armor doesnt really help you in combat much (a large hit is going to down you heavy or light).
the sheer amount of outfits really blurs the line. ironclad armor on a mesmer, marjorys outfit on a revenant etc. I think there is wiggle room for looser restrictions, but its up to AN , and i have no idea how they would go about it.

I think the suggestion was made before, but perhaps as an achievement anytime you get a complete set of any armor, you also get an outfit version of it. I know the biggest loss in this case would be an absence of mix and match, but it would resolve the mix and match issue. As an additional requirement, they’d have to implement hiding the gloves and shoulders on outfits (at least on those specific types).

Not sure if this was mentioned somewhere, but another idea would be to allow us to create/edit/save our own outfits using whatever skins we’ve unlocked. It would ignore the armor type restriction since it’s going over the current armor’s appearance like all other outfits. Depending on how ANET feels about players making “naked outfits”, an outfit might require a skin for each armor piece before it can be created.

The clipping problem would still be there, but it would be up to the player to either deal with it or modify the outfit to select skins that won’t clip (or have less pronounced clipping).

Tristen of Galen.8420:

Not sure if this was mentioned somewhere, but another idea would be to allow us to create/edit/save our own outfits using whatever skins we’ve unlocked. It would ignore the armor type restriction since it’s going over the current armor’s appearance like all other outfits. Depending on how ANET feels about players making “naked outfits”, an outfit might require a skin for each armor piece before it can be created.

The clipping problem would still be there, but it would be up to the player to either deal with it or modify the outfit to select skins that won’t clip (or have less pronounced clipping).

And how do you imagine that they create the tech for creating an outfit stitched together from any other skins, without solving the underlying tech problems?

Donari.5237:

As needs must be mentioned each time this comes up — it’s not the clipping, which is merely an aesthetics concern. It’s the underlying rigs that simply will not work together. Original game design had a somewhat different philosophy from what we would like to have today, and it’s baked into the code. There would be serious graphics issues if two different weights were equipped at the same time.

If i recall correctly the seam issue only seemed to occur on some armor combinations (Resulting in to say a huge hole in your chracater).
Ofc they could be bothered to actually fix those armors…

I’d rather not. The whole point of keeping the RP experience intact and the world immersive is when classes look legit like those classes, not when everything is an asura with an afro in sunglasses and a halloween outfit swinging a hammmer around.

Zenith.7301:

I’d rather not. The whole point of keeping the RP experience intact and the world immersive is when classes look legit like those classes, not when everything is an asura with an afro in sunglasses and a halloween outfit swinging a hammmer around.

The outfits in this game make this argument moot.

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

Tristen of Galen.8420:

Not sure if this was mentioned somewhere, but another idea would be to allow us to create/edit/save our own outfits using whatever skins we’ve unlocked. It would ignore the armor type restriction since it’s going over the current armor’s appearance like all other outfits. Depending on how ANET feels about players making “naked outfits”, an outfit might require a skin for each armor piece before it can be created.

The clipping problem would still be there, but it would be up to the player to either deal with it or modify the outfit to select skins that won’t clip (or have less pronounced clipping).

And how do you imagine that they create the tech for creating an outfit stitched together from any other skins, without solving the underlying tech problems?

We can already apply individual skins to each armor piece, but availability is limited by armor type. If the UI has the same character model we already use and ignores the armor type, then all armor skins would be available. The resulting overlay wouldn’t be much different than what is used for outfit (assuming the skins are “just” image models). It seems most of the code is there to accomplish it.

Now if you are talking about how bad the clipping will be, that’s a different story. The result would be the same as the “just let us use whatever skins we want for our armor” request.

Of course, I’m making a number of assumptions about the code and how much of it and the UI can be re-used. I’m sure they could make it work, but I’m sure they have higher priority tasks to work on.

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

Tristen of Galen.8420:

Not sure if this was mentioned somewhere, but another idea would be to allow us to create/edit/save our own outfits using whatever skins we’ve unlocked. It would ignore the armor type restriction since it’s going over the current armor’s appearance like all other outfits. Depending on how ANET feels about players making “naked outfits”, an outfit might require a skin for each armor piece before it can be created.

The clipping problem would still be there, but it would be up to the player to either deal with it or modify the outfit to select skins that won’t clip (or have less pronounced clipping).

And how do you imagine that they create the tech for creating an outfit stitched together from any other skins, without solving the underlying tech problems?

There was a thread a while back suggesting costume like panels for the 2 other armor weights where you could slot one different armor weight on each “costume” panel and that would appear instead of your regular armor. No mixing and matching between the weights.

So, a light armor would have a heavy armor “costume” panel and a medium armor “costume” panel that they could select wardrobe skins for and wear on top of their armor.

Just a flesh wound.3589:

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

Tristen of Galen.8420:

Not sure if this was mentioned somewhere, but another idea would be to allow us to create/edit/save our own outfits using whatever skins we’ve unlocked. It would ignore the armor type restriction since it’s going over the current armor’s appearance like all other outfits. Depending on how ANET feels about players making “naked outfits”, an outfit might require a skin for each armor piece before it can be created.

The clipping problem would still be there, but it would be up to the player to either deal with it or modify the outfit to select skins that won’t clip (or have less pronounced clipping).

And how do you imagine that they create the tech for creating an outfit stitched together from any other skins, without solving the underlying tech problems?

There was a thread a while back suggesting costume like panels for the 2 other armor weights where you could slot one different armor weight on each “costume” panel and that would appear instead of your regular armor. No mixing and matching between the weights.

So, a light armor would have a heavy armor “costume” panel and a medium armor “costume” panel that they could select wardrobe skins for and wear on top of their armor.

I would certainly not call it a “need” but I would pay for this.

GrizzlyTank.3145:

Zenith.7301:

I’d rather not. The whole point of keeping the RP experience intact and the world immersive is when classes look legit like those classes, not when everything is an asura with an afro in sunglasses and a halloween outfit swinging a hammmer around.

The outfits in this game make this argument moot.

It was downhill after they started flooding this game with all these gimmicks for the sake of the gem store instead of finding a better way to monetize.

we need sounds a lot like I want

Khailyn.6248:

Perhaps english isn’t your primary language (and it very well may not be), but your post is difficult to understand. Consider revising your post to make it more clear.

What’s not to understand? This is rant #24: why can’t I put heavy armor on my mage?

Ashen.2907:

Just a flesh wound.3589:

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

Tristen of Galen.8420:

Not sure if this was mentioned somewhere, but another idea would be to allow us to create/edit/save our own outfits using whatever skins we’ve unlocked. It would ignore the armor type restriction since it’s going over the current armor’s appearance like all other outfits. Depending on how ANET feels about players making “naked outfits”, an outfit might require a skin for each armor piece before it can be created.

The clipping problem would still be there, but it would be up to the player to either deal with it or modify the outfit to select skins that won’t clip (or have less pronounced clipping).

And how do you imagine that they create the tech for creating an outfit stitched together from any other skins, without solving the underlying tech problems?

There was a thread a while back suggesting costume like panels for the 2 other armor weights where you could slot one different armor weight on each “costume” panel and that would appear instead of your regular armor. No mixing and matching between the weights.

So, a light armor would have a heavy armor “costume” panel and a medium armor “costume” panel that they could select wardrobe skins for and wear on top of their armor.

I would certainly not call it a “need” but I would pay for this.

I second this. Would definitely pay.

Is it easier to create armor from scratch or to adjust some existing armor skins?

Game could use more low to mid level rewards so instead of unlocking armor across all types why not trickle them out? Take racial and some popular armor pieces adjust them for all three armor types then trickle them out through current events or other achieves. Maybe even make us craft it ourselves or with the mystic forge.

I would guess, if there was not a problem mixing Armor types, other than clipping, that when we preview an armor piece, say, in the Gem Store, and the weight does not match what we are currently wearing, the preview would not remove all existing armor.

Frenchtoastersticks.8061:

Ashen.2907:

Just a flesh wound.3589:

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

Tristen of Galen.8420:

Not sure if this was mentioned somewhere, but another idea would be to allow us to create/edit/save our own outfits using whatever skins we’ve unlocked. It would ignore the armor type restriction since it’s going over the current armor’s appearance like all other outfits. Depending on how ANET feels about players making “naked outfits”, an outfit might require a skin for each armor piece before it can be created.

The clipping problem would still be there, but it would be up to the player to either deal with it or modify the outfit to select skins that won’t clip (or have less pronounced clipping).

And how do you imagine that they create the tech for creating an outfit stitched together from any other skins, without solving the underlying tech problems?

There was a thread a while back suggesting costume like panels for the 2 other armor weights where you could slot one different armor weight on each “costume” panel and that would appear instead of your regular armor. No mixing and matching between the weights.

So, a light armor would have a heavy armor “costume” panel and a medium armor “costume” panel that they could select wardrobe skins for and wear on top of their armor.

I would certainly not call it a “need” but I would pay for this.

I second this. Would definitely pay.

FWIW, “I would pay for X” is rarely convincing to developers, in part because many people who say they would turn out, if it actually happens, not to. It’s better just to say that, yes, you would love this, and let them work out the economics of how they sell it.