So, there is no timer that can predict when they are going to happen, I wonder if there are some dynamics going on that I don’t know about to do these events. Guilds scheduling one or other temple after some of the world bosses in the megaserver schedulle?
These days I just noticed I don’t do any temple for months, then I realized the lack of a timer was helping for at least 1 month lol
Today I went to Malchor’s Leap and asked about in the map chat, someone told me she was sitting there for the whole day waiting for an opportunity, and the worst is the fact people always do events to prevent the chain to restart.
Basically that’s it for Orr? Sit there or good luck?
Yeah, it’s a pain in the kitten to try to unlock those traits that are tied to temples. I for one, don’t want to wait for hours for the events to spawn and so the traits remain unlocked.
Another concern I have is acquisition of traits- (and this might be addressed somewhere else – if so sorry). It is near impossible and very discouraging to wait around in a map 2 hours to have someone complete the defense even after u have politely asked them to let it fail so u can get the trait. There is nothing u can do to stop them. And u have wasted a ton of time to come up empty handed. Please make it so that defense of all temples having to do with traits awards it. PLEASE. Please. please.
I do not know anymore what’s going on with temples because I no longer visit Orr because the part of the game I enjoyed (farming temple events) was stolen from me on April 15.
1- Go to a map in orr and see if a temple event is going.
2- If not go to character select and guest to a different server (often you get put on a new megaserver)
3- Repeat until you find a temple event.
The Temple of Grenth and the Promenade defense events (which count for Traits) in Cursed Shore respawn approximately every hour, and usually they aren’t going simultaneously. There is a handy WP next to each location, which is available during the defense event, and usually someone will announce that a defense event has started. I can understand not wanting to wait around, but those are at least doable. The biggest problem I have had is that sometimes the Promenade defense doesn’t spawn the Legendary Wizard.
The Temple of Lyssa event, which requires the defense to fail, frequently is griefed, and annoys me to no end. It is not fun to be blocked by other players.
Maybe I’m completely wrong here, but these traits everyone is talking about tied to these temple events, are these the same traits I unlocked with gold the day the patch dropped? I do a lot of sPvP, so I just clicked on them, saw I could unlock them with a piddly some of gold and unlocked them. Are there other traits I’m unaware of that are only unlockable via these events, because even though they said I had to kill some mob from some event, I was still able to unlock them via gold.
1- Go to a map in orr and see if a temple event is going.
2- If not go to character select and guest to a different server (often you get put on a new megaserver)
3- Repeat until you find a temple event.
Maybe I’m completely wrong here, but these traits everyone is talking about tied to these temple events, are these the same traits I unlocked with gold the day the patch dropped? I do a lot of sPvP, so I just clicked on them, saw I could unlock them with a piddly some of gold and unlocked them. Are there other traits I’m unaware of that are only unlockable via these events, because even though they said I had to kill some mob from some event, I was still able to unlock them via gold.
Yes they’re the same, the XIII trait.
If you have only 1 character it’s fine, but if you have like me the 8 professions, it becomes 120 gold +100 skill points per character.
I don’t have the gold and don’t have 100 skill points on every char so I go for the events when a guilmate warn.
Maybe I’m completely wrong here, but these traits everyone is talking about tied to these temple events, are these the same traits I unlocked with gold the day the patch dropped? I do a lot of sPvP, so I just clicked on them, saw I could unlock them with a piddly some of gold and unlocked them. Are there other traits I’m unaware of that are only unlockable via these events, because even though they said I had to kill some mob from some event, I was still able to unlock them via gold.
yes, and some of them I already did with gold too, but well, suppose you have +5 alts, its a ton of money. Also, there is another problem about the temples. they are the ones that give more dragonite ores. Ppl doing ascended gear will take twice the time to craft their vision crystals coz other world bosses drop ridiculous amounts (from 5 to 15) while one single temple boss drops 30 dragonites. You need 500 to craft 1 vision crystal.
1- Go to a map in orr and see if a temple event is going.
2- If not go to character select and guest to a different server (often you get put on a new megaserver)
3- Repeat until you find a temple event.
Aren’t you still only limited to two guests?
As I understand it, guesting does not count against the limit until you enter a map that belongs to the server you guested to. But all maps are now megaserver, so there’s effectively no limit.
Probably a bug (or else Anet would have announced “Unlimited Guesting!”) but it’s one of the only ways to get to another map instance now.
1- Go to a map in orr and see if a temple event is going.
2- If not go to character select and guest to a different server (often you get put on a new megaserver)
3- Repeat until you find a temple event.
Aren’t you still only limited to two guests?
As I understand it, guesting does not count against the limit until you enter a map that belongs to the server you guested to. But all maps are now megaserver, so there’s effectively no limit.
Probably a bug (or else Anet would have announced “Unlimited Guesting!”) but it’s one of the only ways to get to another map instance now.
I tried this….i guest and i am on same server with same ppl, then i guest on another and guess what? i am on same server….so my server+1 guesting+1 guesting = Megaserver lol.
Maybe I’m completely wrong here, but these traits everyone is talking about tied to these temple events, are these the same traits I unlocked with gold the day the patch dropped? I do a lot of sPvP, so I just clicked on them, saw I could unlock them with a piddly some of gold and unlocked them. Are there other traits I’m unaware of that are only unlockable via these events, because even though they said I had to kill some mob from some event, I was still able to unlock them via gold.
Yes they’re the same, the XIII trait.
If you have only 1 character it’s fine, but if you have like me the 8 professions, it becomes 120 gold +100 skill points per character.
I don’t have the gold and don’t have 100 skill points on every char so I go for the events when a guilmate warn.
Ah, multiple characters, that is a good point. I have the 8 professions as well, but just haven’t bothered with the other characters yet. I could foresee this being a problem when I do decide to do it on them.
I’m just thankful I have active guildies who regularly check and that message in guild chat whenever a temple is happening. Just WP over and join on in. Guesting seems like the only immediate solution honestly.
The Temple of Lyssa event, which requires the defense to fail, frequently is griefed, and annoys me to no end. It is not fun to be blocked by other players.
Anet really cannot seem to get it through their heads that this sort of mechanic invites greifing to no end.
Any time you lock content behind gates that other players can willingly open or close, griefers will do exactly that.
Maybe someday Anet will learn this.
Where are my gem sales? I want gem sales! Nerf EVERYTHING!
Anyone done Balthazar lately? Been broken too long and a lot of folks are looking for obsidian shards. Tried to let all the NPCs for the pre die off (we kited mobs into them, which wasn’t always easy) because the game declared they needed to be rezzed when 6 out of 7 were standing there. (Convinced one of them has fallen through the map).
Not being able to actually guest elsewhere to run this for folks doesn’t make Megaserver anymore appealing.
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1- Go to a map in orr and see if a temple event is going.
2- If not go to character select and guest to a different server (often you get put on a new megaserver)
3- Repeat until you find a temple event.
Aren’t you still only limited to two guests?
As I understand it, guesting does not count against the limit until you enter a map that belongs to the server you guested to. But all maps are now megaserver, so there’s effectively no limit.
Probably a bug (or else Anet would have announced “Unlimited Guesting!”) but it’s one of the only ways to get to another map instance now.
I tried this….i guest and i am on same server with same ppl, then i guest on another and guess what? i am on same server….so my server+1 guesting+1 guesting = Megaserver lol.
Yeah… you’re at the mercy of the instance choosing algorithm so (as far as the player is concerned) there’s a lot of RNG to it… you often have to do it many times before you get into a new instance.
(And if there’s only a single megaserver instance of that map then you’re certainly not going anywhere.)
@goldenwing – I was there when a group of players kited the entire party of 6 to the rally point by dragging mobs to the party and then pulling the mobs towards the rally point. It was amazing to watch the cooperation of the players. Most definitely more epic than the actual event.
Unfortunately it didn’t work in the end as the NPC ’s refused to acknowledge they had arrived and the 7th member was nowhere to be found(presumably it had fallen through the map at some point).
Glitched/bugged events make obtaining the traits that much more frustrating.
I tried to guest but ended up in the same instance multiple times.
@goldenwing – I was there when a group of players kited the entire party of 6 to the rally point by dragging mobs to the party and then pulling the mobs towards the rally point. It was amazing to watch the cooperation of the players. Most definitely more epic than the actual event.
Unfortunately it didn’t work in the end as the NPC ’s refused to acknowledge they had arrived and the 7th member was nowhere to be found(presumably it had fallen through the map at some point).
Glitched/bugged events make obtaining the traits that much more frustrating.
I tried to guest but ended up in the same instance multiple times.
Not surprised that didn’t work. I’ve seen it where the whole thing was going normally until the NPCs were just 2 steps from the finish and … they just decided that was as far as they will go. None of them died, there wasn’t anything attacking. NPCs just decided they didn’t want to move anymore.
?? I unlocked all 5 traits on all 8 chars in the first 4-5 days of the patch. Its not even remotely difficult. The only event where you can be “blocked” is Lyssa; Grenth and Arah both unlock on defense mode, which happens approximately every hour or so.
Orr is also a treasure trove of loot and materials so its not exactly non-profitable to be wandering the zone while waiting in any case. Tonnes of Ori, Ancient Wood, Omnomberries and moldy bags to be had.
@goldenwing – I was there when a group of players kited the entire party of 6 to the rally point by dragging mobs to the party and then pulling the mobs towards the rally point. It was amazing to watch the cooperation of the players. Most definitely more epic than the actual event.
Unfortunately it didn’t work in the end as the NPC ’s refused to acknowledge they had arrived and the 7th member was nowhere to be found(presumably it had fallen through the map at some point).
Glitched/bugged events make obtaining the traits that much more frustrating.
I tried to guest but ended up in the same instance multiple times.
/wave
My guildmate and I were the ones that suggested it.. as we stood there wanting to do something (felt like old times in DAoC with the glitch) and thought it might be worth a shot…
Everybody there was awesome and pitched in, just like you said. Love the cooperation that occurs from this community!
Thank you for jumping in and being part of that impromptu team. It would have fantastic if it had worked. just to reward everyone who tried.
Guess we need to wait for a reset (hope it’s not as long as waiting for next patch), or just get luckier landing in the right megaserver.
Good luck to you and I hope you get what you need.
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Yep, I haven’t been able to do the Lyssa event ever since the megaserver has been implemented. ANeT refuses to answer us on the question of temples, or respond at all for that matter. The temples need to be placed on a timer if they are going to keep the megaserver in place. And that means automatic activation. The temples are no longer an event I can look forward to doing with friends. I can’t play my own way anymore. A promise broken by ANeT.
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No matter how well defended they are, every 2 hours risen must overrun it, and the event go back to the start.
They should also go in a 45 minute cycle.
Balthaazar→Lyssa→Dwayna→Melandru→Grenth→Gates.
So each one would reset every 2 hours, and the next one would always reset 45 minutes after the previous one, so you would always know were to go to have a chance for the event.
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No exceptions!
So each one would reset every 2 hours, and the next one would always reset 45 minutes after the previous one, so you would always know were to go to have a chance for the event.
Agreed. We need them to be exactly like the world bosses. If you can’t be lucky enough to arrive and participate currently, you’re kittened.
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I just realized there is something quite useful we can do to help one each other. If you are in Orr and one of the temples pops, even if you already done it:
at least once for the day you could warn people here in the forums in a thread specific for that, the event has just popped, making yourself available for people to add you in party.
set at least 1 slot free available in your party for someone who needs to travel to the zone be able to tp to your instance
the person just have to right-click you. while in party, and select the option to join you in the version of the Orr zone where the event is happening.
when the person finally arrived in the instance, he/she can leave the group and post here is available, restarting the party cycle.
OR……
people could simply get used to do these announcements in the LFG tool in-game, which would be much more simple and handy.
For now, I’ll use the LFG tool if anyone is interested in joining for a temple so just check the OpenWorld tab and keep the good work going!
Expanding on the idea that defense of the temples should automatically fail and allow the event to re-start.
I wonder if it would be possible for the defense event to scale to the point of becoming impossible. So each subsequent defense event becomes so large and so difficult that it will fail at some point.
In this way there isn’t a hard reset in which a large number of players feel completely negated because the event just stops and fails regardless of how poorly or well they are doing. By scaling the event in difficulty to the point of failure it would ‘feel’ more epic and immersive while still accomplishing the same goal.
At some point failure will be inevitable but wouldn’t it be fun to push that to see how far players could go?
EDIT: And I forgot to mention that failure of this event, unlike Tequatl and the Wurm is an actual bonus since people also need it to fail to get traits. With the guarantee that it will fail at the point at which it scales beyond player capabilities/numbers it becomes a win/win.
I have a great idea. How about, since we can’t predict when the temple is ready for the event they let us purchase the traits with karma from the vendor like karma armor. That way, since the megaserver has completely messed up even trying to get the traits, we’ll be able to acquire the trait. Make it 100,000 karma and the required skill points. At least we know at that point that ANeT didn’t purposely create a gold sink at the vendor by making it nearly impossible to get a trait from an untimed, unpredictable, griefing, temple event.
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I have a great idea. How about, since we can’t predict when the temple is ready for the event they let us purchase the traits with karma from the vendor like karma armor. That way, since the megaserver has completely messed up even trying to get the traits, we’ll be able to acquire the trait. Make it 100,000 karma and the required skill points. At least we know at that point that ANeT didn’t purposely create a gold sink at the vendor by making it nearly impossible to get a trait from an untimed, unpredictable, griefing, temple event.
Maybe I’m completely wrong here, but these traits everyone is talking about tied to these temple events, are these the same traits I unlocked with gold the day the patch dropped? I do a lot of sPvP, so I just clicked on them, saw I could unlock them with a piddly some of gold and unlocked them. Are there other traits I’m unaware of that are only unlockable via these events, because even though they said I had to kill some mob from some event, I was still able to unlock them via gold.
Yes they’re the same, the XIII trait.
If you have only 1 character it’s fine, but if you have like me the 8 professions, it becomes 120 gold +100 skill points per character.
I don’t have the gold and don’t have 100 skill points on every char so I go for the events when a guilmate warn.
Oh come on….at MOST you will want one or two of those immediatly (MAYBE 3 if you change builds a lot). You can wait to unlock the others.
Keep in mind that since those areas are all high level and surrounded by tons of Events, Champions and T5/T6 resources, you should not be “standing around” waiting 2 hours…..
I think politely asking in MAP chat to let the Defense Events fail works most of the time. I’m guessing much of the problem with players ignoring the requests is either due to them not seeing the request (lot so player turn off the chat window completely) and blindly doing every Event that pops up (possibly trying to get Dailies).
Try whispering the player continuing to pursue the Defense Event when that happens.
This does need to be addressed by ANet as beyond the XIII trait issue, these events generate significant Dragonite Ore that cannot be earned when Temples are constantly open.
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I could see the devs solving this by simply setting up the following schedule, and completely removing the pre-events because, let’s face it, they really don’t work with Megaserver technology (too many variables results in confused/disorganized player base):
- Legendary Karka Queen (Southsun Cove) – Top of the hour (spawns at 00 minutes)
- Balthazar (Straights of Devastation) – Bottom of the hour (spawns at 30 minutes)
- Lyssa (Malchor’s Leap) – Top of the hour (spawns at 00 minutes)
- Dwayna (Malchor’s Leap) – Bottom of the hour (spawns at 30 minutes)
- Melandru (Cursed Shore) – Top of the hour (spawns at 00 minutes)
- Grenth (Cursed Shore) – Bottom of the hour (spawns at 30 minutes)
Historically, the GW2 player base has ALWAYS performed better when events spawn at a specific point on the clock, regardless of time zone. This schedule ensures no hard-core farming, but also ensures a reasonable and reliable pace at which to unlock traits and obtain Dragonite. Since accounts are limited to one chest/reward per day per character, players wouldn’t be overwhelmingly stocking up on Dragonite/champ rewards. The result is everything is possible to accomplish in reliable fashion.
Thanks for that @mtpelion. However, after reading that thread completely, while it speaks to the issue, it’s in a category that I don’t think makes sense for it to be in – that thread should be merged with this one.
Thanks for that @mtpelion. However, after reading that thread completely, while it speaks to the issue, it’s in a category that I don’t think makes sense for it to be in – that thread should be merged with this one.
Yeah, either way though, we should keep the conversation together.
I just would like to prove for some people who think the temples are open all the time because people want to “help one each other” (yeah, some loonies believe that) how much selfish is the interest of people who don’t let the chain on temples keep going.
I just tried to do Dwayna, asked politely twice, and there was a group on the top of the temple farming the area. Not surprisingly, there was this player called Hero Charmander who admitted they are there to farm. Ironically, he even pinged his collection of legendaries.
I attached some screens of the Honorable group and their leader speech in the chat.
I believe if Anet is nerfing everything around, from Queensdale to Frostgorge, would be fair they do the same with Orr because there is no more temples with these bands of charged lodestone farmers.
I mean, really, in the last 2 weeks I did Dwayna and Lyssa only once. This is just completely kittened up and kittening me off.
