Guild Wars 2

For Science!!

nah, kitten science…this is all about the horrendous mistake I just made so that you can learn from it and hopefully avoid the same mistakes.

I just finished my Sunrise 2 days ago after several months of grinding mats, salvaging ectos, farming karma, etc, etc, etc….and I equipped it on my mesmer. Everything sounds great so far right?

Wrong. See, I really wanted the Sunrise on my Guardian main. I put it on the mesmer thinking the weapon would make me want to play it more. Big mistake. So I set off to fix this and get my beloved Legendary GS over onto my Guard. I could simply transmute it to a white, but with so many bugs with that system I was simply not willing to risk it. So I did something even worse.

I put my Sunrise into the bank, and deleted my full exotic level 80 mesmer.

Yep, I did it, thinking if the character no longer exists surely the weapon couldn’t be soulbound to her anymore. Wrong again. Oh so very wrong indeed.

And now my beloved Sunrise, my oh so many hours of work, is sitting in the bank…unable to be pulled out by any of my characters, unable to be transmuted, unable to be….anything. It just sits there, waiting for its owner that will never come back for it like a lost puppy. What a sad,sad puppy it is.

TLDR: Please just transmute your weapons or armor, and NEVER delete a character.

Learn from my kittenness….I will be for quite a long time to come as I stare at the last slot in my last bank tab.

For the lulz:D you’re the boss bro ^^

I don’t even know how you could come up with the idea that deleting a character would suddenly make all their soulbound items suddenly not-soulbound.

this is a very story, it makes me hurt in my kitten insides

What would happen if you made a new guard with the exact name of your deleted mesmer?

That just totally sucks. I don’t even know what to say. Gah!

That is so sad.

If this is indeed a true story why oh why ho why did you not test this first with another char with some other soulbound item? O.O This is such a mindbending story…..

i’m simply stunned

guess all you can hope for is legendaries get changed to account only sometime in the future

Deroy.2457:

I don’t even know how you could come up with the idea that deleting a character would suddenly make all their soulbound items suddenly not-soulbound.

Killing the character would also destroy the soul? thus no more soulbound?

Paulytnz.7619:

If this is indeed a true story why oh why ho why did you not test this first with another char with some other soulbound item? O.O This is such a mindbending story…..

Unfortunately it is quite true. I even tried creating the same race,gender,prof,name just to be able to transmute it, with no luck.

And the thing is this process did used to work with soulbound items as long as they were soulbound on equip rather than soulbound on acquire. It’s not like I just guessed what would happen. I guess this wasn’t intended and got changed though. Sadness.

Either way, unless some miracle happens the damage is done.

Zamloff.3291:

Killing the character would also destroy the soul? thus no more soulbound?

But the concept behind the soul is immortality?
Can’t destroy anything immortal, no?

:(

I guess the best we all can hope for is that sometime in the future Anet brings in a new item to the gem store that lets us un-soulbind items. Heck I would imagine you would pay a few bucks for that right now.

I could see the potentially disastrous effects fully unbinding gear would have on the economy. I would be ecstatic simply to be able to transmute items on any character, regardless if its bound to another one of your characters. They are, after all, your characters.

I believe Arenanet said that they planned on making legendaries account bound? So don’t go nuts and delete you account or right-click destroy. You may very well be able to equip it sometime in the future.

That being said, you really should have tested with other weapons.

Paulytnz.7619:

:(

I guess the best we all can hope for is that sometime in the future Anet brings in a new item to the gem store that lets us un-soulbind items. Heck I would imagine you would pay a few bucks for that right now.

That would be a terrible idea. We can’t always protect people from stupid actions, eventually they just have to deal with it.

I don’t think it’s a terrible idea at all. For one it would not be about “protecting” people at all. It would:

1 – Give us more options for equipping our characters with various skins earned on alts/mains.

2 – Earn more money for Anet to bring us nice new updates for a hopefully a long while to come.

Please expand on why you think it would be “terrible”.

PS I never said remove “soulbound” and make fully tradeable at all. I would be happy for the result being changing from “soulbound” to “account bound”.

Just ask to get your char restored. If ANet knows any mercy, they will do it for the lols.

Deroy.2457:

I don’t even know how you could come up with the idea that deleting a character would suddenly make all their soulbound items suddenly not-soulbound.

This is a viable way to get an soulbound (kama vendor) skin in Sept / Oct….

The item will stated soulbound but every character is able to use or transmute it.

But hey, they stealth changed this method… this is sad anyway.

NegativKarma.8094:

Yep, I did it, thinking if the character no longer exists surely the weapon couldn’t be soulbound to her anymore. Wrong again. Oh so very wrong indeed.

Very strange how someone can get a sunrise within five minutes of playing, because anyone with more than 20 minutes /played should know how the soulbound system works. With your luck you can get another Sunrise by the time your first character is lvl 80 …

Really … what did you expect to happen to the Sunrise …

There’s a dutch saying that goes along the lines of “Good thing stupidity isn’t contagious”.

File a ticket. If you’re lucky a.net cleans up your mess.

This was an overly stupid thing to do, but, can’t you use your “free” account restore?

marnick.4305:

NegativKarma.8094:

Yep, I did it, thinking if the character no longer exists surely the weapon couldn’t be soulbound to her anymore. Wrong again. Oh so very wrong indeed.

Very strange how someone can get a sunrise within five minutes of playing, because anyone with more than 20 minutes /played should know how the soulbound system works. With your luck you can get another Sunrise by the time your first character is lvl 80 …

Really … what did you expect to happen to the Sunrise …

There’s a dutch saying that goes along the lines of “Good thing stupidity isn’t contagious”.

File a ticket. If you’re lucky a.net cleans up your mess.

To me it sounds like a few people had found a way to exploit the soulbound system and making it possible to make items available to other chars without the need for the best transmute stones. Also sounds to me like Anet fixed the exploit thus where we are at now with the coments from 2 people who knew of it.

Also it makes sense Anet wouldn’t need to announce the fix to the exploit if only a handful of people knew about it. So I wouldn’t call this a stealth update or whatever at all.

Paulytnz.7619:

marnick.4305:

NegativKarma.8094:

Yep, I did it, thinking if the character no longer exists surely the weapon couldn’t be soulbound to her anymore. Wrong again. Oh so very wrong indeed.

Very strange how someone can get a sunrise within five minutes of playing, because anyone with more than 20 minutes /played should know how the soulbound system works. With your luck you can get another Sunrise by the time your first character is lvl 80 …

Really … what did you expect to happen to the Sunrise …

There’s a dutch saying that goes along the lines of “Good thing stupidity isn’t contagious”.

File a ticket. If you’re lucky a.net cleans up your mess.

To me it sounds like a few people had found a way to exploit the soulbound system and making it possible to make items available to other chars without the need for the best transmute stones. Also sounds to me like Anet fixed the exploit thus where we are at now with the coments from 2 people who knew of it.

Also it makes sense Anet wouldn’t need to announce the fix to the exploit if only a handful of people knew about it. So I wouldn’t call this a stealth update or whatever at all.

No. Nothing was changed since the soulbound functionality works 100% the same in virtually any other MMO. Your comment is mere tinfoil cap speculation.

I’ve done this too but thankfully it wasn’t with anything so expensive…

couldn’t you have done the experiment with a soulbound item on a newly created character?

I though deleted characters were held in escrow/limbo like 48 hours or so…?
Its there as a precaution aainst hacked account vandalism.

Maybe I’m thinking of a different MMO.

Vorch.2985:

couldn’t you have done the experiment with a soulbound item on a newly created character?

I think the OP was trying to explain to commenters that this was already a proven ‘trick’ that could be done to remove the soulbound status. I read up on it on reddit or something months ago and actually had a friend that did it. I think the OP just assumed it still worked which lead to bad results due to a stealth nerf on the trick.

Zamloff.3291:

Deroy.2457:

I don’t even know how you could come up with the idea that deleting a character would suddenly make all their soulbound items suddenly not-soulbound.

Killing the character would also destroy the soul? thus no more soulbound?

Sound reasoning.

NegativKarma.8094:

For Science!!

nah, kitten science…this is all about the horrendous mistake I just made so that you can learn from it and hopefully avoid the same mistakes.

I just finished my Sunrise 2 days ago after several months of grinding mats, salvaging ectos, farming karma, etc, etc, etc….and I equipped it on my mesmer. Everything sounds great so far right?

Wrong. See, I really wanted the Sunrise on my Guardian main. I put it on the mesmer thinking the weapon would make me want to play it more. Big mistake. So I set off to fix this and get my beloved Legendary GS over onto my Guard. I could simply transmute it to a white, but with so many bugs with that system I was simply not willing to risk it. So I did something even worse.

I put my Sunrise into the bank, and deleted my full exotic level 80 mesmer.

Yep, I did it, thinking if the character no longer exists surely the weapon couldn’t be soulbound to her anymore. Wrong again. Oh so very wrong indeed.

And now my beloved Sunrise, my oh so many hours of work, is sitting in the bank…unable to be pulled out by any of my characters, unable to be transmuted, unable to be….anything. It just sits there, waiting for its owner that will never come back for it like a lost puppy. What a sad,sad puppy it is.

TLDR: Please just transmute your weapons or armor, and NEVER delete a character.

Learn from my kittenness….I will be for quite a long time to come as I stare at the last slot in my last bank tab.

Well this certainly puts my little rage outbursts in perspective.

Submit a ticket and request a rollback. Don’t be an idiot in the future.

I wasn’t intending on using any “tricks”, “exploits”, etc. All I wanted was a way to get the sword to another character without the unintended consequences that transmuting legendaries currently has/may have. I picked the wrong method.

I am fully aware it was a stupid thing to try, hindsight is 20/20, and all that yada yada yada. This was not intended as a sob story by any means, but merely a story of ignorance and temporary insanity for others to either enjoy, emphathize, or learn from.

I have petitioned A-net to see if the once in a lifetime rollback per account can be applied here, although I do not have high hopes since that is intended for accounts that have been compromised. Other than that it is just a waiting game to see if they become account bound at some point in the far far future.

Thanks for your mostly mature responses.

Rofl.

There’s really not much else to say.

It’s bad enough you lost your legendary, but also having it sit there on your bank gathering dust? Ouch.

Hopefully Anet can restore your Mesmer.

Good luck!

Sepreh.5924:

What would happen if you made a new guard with the exact name of your deleted mesmer?

I don’t think it would work. The Characters are most likely attributed an unique id number at creation like it was the case on GW1, and thus you can never recreate the exact same character according to the server.

Didn’t ArenaNet state they’ll make Legendaries Account Bound?

That’s really sad..I do hope something works out for you!

Thank you, original poster.

I haven’t laughed so well in days.

Paulytnz.7619:

I don’t think it’s a terrible idea at all. For one it would not be about “protecting” people at all. It would:

1 – Give us more options for equipping our characters with various skins earned on alts/mains.

2 – Earn more money for Anet to bring us nice new updates for a hopefully a long while to come.

Please expand on why you think it would be “terrible”.

PS I never said remove “soulbound” and make fully tradeable at all. I would be happy for the result being changing from “soulbound” to “account bound”.

I can tell you why. Because it is still soulbound to that deleted character. For that little item to work you’d have to have it on the character it’s soulbound to to unbind it.

Best option is that they make legendary weps account bound that would fix his problem and would allow others that, for the most part, spent considerable amounts of time making their legendary, enjoy the weapon to the fullest on their other characters.

from what I understand, they are working on a plan to make legendary weapons account bound instead.

as such, a little patience and a few months, and you should be able to use it again

That hurt to read.

Hey, this may be a shot in the dark but you MAY be able to ask Support to roll back your account pre-deletion. They do that for when people get hacked, giving you one “freebie” chance to get your stuff back. Maybe you can ask them to use up that rollback on your own mistake instead?

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Edit: Hah.

I really wish ANet would start making a lot more things account bound rather than soulbound.

If you could pass on gear to an alt when your main was finished with it, it would be a lot harder for anything to become completely obsolete. The work and the gold and/or karma you put into exotics wouldn’t be completely wasted when you upgraded to ascended, for example.

If it was account bound, you still couldn’t sell it after it had been used – but you would be able to get more use out of it.

WHY GOD WHY!?!?!

Wow.

That about sums up it up.

Words. Can. Not. Express…

Well, it’s for the best. It is “Sunrise” after all. The unwanted child, that came about, when a sword hilt, and a window, tag-teamed a picture :/

You deleted a mesmer, you deserve pain and suffering. Anyway good luck on getting it somehow restored.

We all make mistakes….

But DAYUM!!! So sorry! =(

lol why not contact the support and ask them nicely

in the mean time…