I typed KITTEN out manually, so this is a legit title.
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I am a level 80 mesmer from using tomes and crafting.
I now have some experience on my mesmer in PvP.
I wanted to play WvW with guildmates because I feel decent enough at mesmer now.
I have no traits in PvE or WvW.
I need to pay gold that I don’t currently have to unlock traits.
I need a TON of skill points that I don’t have because of buying skills, to unlock traits.
I can’t play WvW with my guildmates on my level 80 mesmer tonight.
TY for this new system that I recently got the displeasure of experiencing.
I will probably not be telling my friends to buy Guild Wars 2…
This is the most troubling experience in the NPE. People that have been playing since launch should have some sort of bypass for this feature (after their first or second 80).
I’ve used a lot of resources acquiring traits for all of the characters I want to regularly play, and in most cases, I’m stuck with a single build for an extended period while accumulating skill points. I would suggest doing a personal story from beginning to end, as there are a lot scrolls and levels gained; however I know that’s a tedious process. Here’s hoping to a better system :/
sounds rough… you should get a free precursor for power leveling
I actually laughed out loud. Well done. I mean, what kind of complaint is this? “I power leveled my character and am unprepared to use it at max level! QQ!!!1!!”
Guess it doesn’t pay to take the easy way to level. I for one don’t feel sorry for you.
Ya I should have to do map completion on every single character I ever make.
Or, on my 5th 80, I should just have everything unlocked by default like my other 3 80s had after I originally did map completion/personal story on my first character and level 80 – my necromancer.
Guess it doesn’t pay to take the easy way to level. I for one don’t feel sorry for you.
Ya I should have to do map completion on every single character I ever make.
Or, on my 5th 80, I should just have everything unlocked by default like my other 3 80s had after I originally did map completion/personal story on my first character and level 80 – my necromancer.
The only problem with doing account bound unlocked traits is…not all traits for every class are available from the same set of sources. The vast majority are, but some aren’t, so you have a problem if you do an auto account unlock on traits after your first 80. What they could do though is a class by class account bound unlock, or account bound unlock those that are earned through the same rewards. The traits that are unlocked via completing zones and story missions could be account unlocked for all classes regardless, then leave those that require you to do a certain event character based to unlock, because some of those require specific events for different traits. Hopefully that makes sense to everyone and the one reason I see that the new trait system hasn’t been changed to account bound unlocks yet.
Guess it doesn’t pay to take the easy way to level. I for one don’t feel sorry for you.
Ya I should have to do map completion on every single character I ever make.
Or, on my 5th 80, I should just have everything unlocked by default like my other 3 80s had after I originally did map completion/personal story on my first character and level 80 – my necromancer.
Or you can cry and whine at A-Net because you didn’t think things through. You got what you played for here no need to think it should be any different. Or that you should get more of a free ride.
BTW I have a level 80 ranger with 30% of all maps done he has ALL his traits needed unlocked.
Good Luck.
I typed KITTEN out manually, so this is a legit title.
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I am a level 80 mesmer from using tomes and crafting.
I now have some experience on my mesmer in PvP.
I wanted to play WvW with guildmates because I feel decent enough at mesmer now.
I have no traits in PvE or WvW.
I need to pay gold that I don’t currently have to unlock traits.
I need a TON of skill points that I don’t have because of buying skills, to unlock traits.
I can’t play WvW with my guildmates on my level 80 mesmer tonight.
TY for this new system that I recently got the displeasure of experiencing.
I will probably not be telling my friends to buy Guild Wars 2…
Ok so, you skipped your way to 80 without experiencing most of what the game has to offer on your character … and you think it’s unreasonable that you didn’t get access to things you need that are gotten through experiencing most of what the game has to offer? Please, do NOT tell you friends to buy GW2 if they are anything like you because they aren’t going to like it.
If you have other characters, what’s stopping you from buying the traits you need and using any saved up skill point scrolls? Why not just play without them?
If this was <insert traditional MMO>, you would be severely behind on gear and would likely need to grind for weeks to become competitive. Even with GW2 being very casual, you can’t expect to simply boost to level 80 and be done.
The options given to you to unlock traits are pretty terrible however. imo, multiple options for the different game types (WvW/PvP, dungeons, solo PvE) should be available and basic traits should practically be given to you for free for doing simple and generic tasks, such as dodging, killing or doing a certain amount of events.
it really doesn’t take that much to purchase all of the traits and you can get a good chunk of them from running dungeons. I didn’t like it either but as most other games you don’t simply acquire every skill available; they need to be earned. It was an unexpected but good change. The only thing I will say about is that the methods of achieving them out in the world are I think too scattered. You shouldn’t have to run to lvl 45 zones for a tier one trait. Other than that it was a step in the right direction as it adds more meat to the game that it was slightly lacking prior. Even in gw1 skills were much much harder to come buy than they are gw2. You wanted an elite you had to travel half way across the world to steal it from the one maybe two named creatures who had it available to them. It’s the gw2 version of skill signet or skill capture or w/e it was called, it’s been three years since I’ve played it.
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The Stonemouth Keep
Tarnished Coast
I typed KITTEN out manually, so this is a legit title.
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I am a level 80 mesmer from using tomes and crafting.
I now have some experience on my mesmer in PvP.
I wanted to play WvW with guildmates because I feel decent enough at mesmer now.
I have no traits in PvE or WvW.
I need to pay gold that I don’t currently have to unlock traits.
I need a TON of skill points that I don’t have because of buying skills, to unlock traits.
I can’t play WvW with my guildmates on my level 80 mesmer tonight.
TY for this new system that I recently got the displeasure of experiencing.
I will probably not be telling my friends to buy Guild Wars 2…
Ok so, you skipped your way to 80 without experiencing most of what the game has to offer on your character … .
Is there anything in the game you are no longer able to do once you hit level 80? When I powerleveled my characters to level 80 I had access to everything they had access to at level 2 plus much more. I went back on my level 80s and did the low level personal story quests, dungeons, zones and crafting with zero problems.
I could be wrong now though. I haven’t leveled a character to 80 with the new trait and npe changes.
Guess it doesn’t pay to take the easy way to level. I for one don’t feel sorry for you.
Ya I should have to do map completion on every single character I ever make.
Or, on my 5th 80, I should just have everything unlocked by default like my other 3 80s had after I originally did map completion/personal story on my first character and level 80 – my necromancer.
Or you can cry and whine at A-Net because you didn’t think things through. You got what you played for here no need to think it should be any different. Or that you should get more of a free ride.
BTW I have a level 80 ranger with 30% of all maps done he has ALL his traits needed unlocked.
Good Luck.
So if someone doesn’t like something in the game they shouldn’t tell ANet that they dislike it in hopes that they’ll change it?
At least Zefrost had a possible solution to the problem to post with his complaint about the traits situation.
The current system does punish having alts. It punishes the players who want to experiment with builds and not just follow one set build all of the time.
Zefrost at least realized that ANet is likely not going to do a complete reversal of the April Trait change and offered a compromise.
I love how most of the people defending the trait system are probably people that never had to bother with it. Yeah, because I want to map complete Lornar’s Pass, Dredgehaunt Hills, Blazeridge Steppes and three other zones on multiple characters just to access 6 of their low level traits.
What’s that? You say I can buy the traits if I want them so badly? Yeah, you might’ve noticed my signature. It’s pretty great. I’ll wait, if you want to look at it. My 11 level 80 characters cost me 28g60s prior to April for traits. If I wanted to buy access to even half of their traits now, it would cost me over 236g AND almost 2000 skill points. So, c’mon. Tell me how that’s a reasonable change.
“Be angry about legendary weapons, sure, but what about the recent drought of content?”
-Mike O’Brien
Because we can’t be angry about both?
I love how most of the people defending the trait system are probably people that never had to bother with it. Yeah, because I want to map complete Lornar’s Pass, Dredgehaunt Hills, Blazeridge Steppes and three other zones on multiple characters just to access 6 of their low level traits.
Just started a ninth character. All the others are lvl 80. I have no problem with the change. Currently lvl 38 and maping a zone for a triat. It gives a reason to go out to zones. Plus your getting xp while unlocking traits.
I love how most of the people defending the trait system are probably people that never had to bother with it. Yeah, because I want to map complete Lornar’s Pass, Dredgehaunt Hills, Blazeridge Steppes and three other zones on multiple characters just to access 6 of their low level traits.
Just started a ninth character. All the others are lvl 80. I have no problem with the change. Currently lvl 38 and maping a zone for a triat. It gives a reason to go out to zones. Plus your getting xp while unlocking traits.
Your ninth character since the April changes, or were your other eight grandfathered in to the new system?
“Be angry about legendary weapons, sure, but what about the recent drought of content?”
-Mike O’Brien
Because we can’t be angry about both?
Look at all the white knights defending Anet for obviously bad decisions.
People were even defending the temporary content of season 1. These people actually thought having the content removed was a good idea and enjoyed it that way.
9th is the only one under the new system. The other 8 were done a long time ago. Been here since beta. Two have full map completion. The others have most WP done. When we get a new class, race or just feel like playing from the start I’ll do it again.
I’m sorry the traits unlock system wasn’t there from the beginning, buthey, back then then the monsters were harder to kill at lower levels.
I have five mesmers since the “npe” and don’t find any problems there aren’t solutions available for by… Playing the adventure that the game is. Go outside, get some fresh air! Explore the great world of Tyria and kill new monsters.
Why can’t you play WvW without traits, anyhow? It will make you a better player.
So if someone doesn’t like something in the game they shouldn’t tell ANet that they dislike it in hopes that they’ll change it?
At least Zefrost had a possible solution to the problem to post with his complaint about the traits situation.
The current system does punish having alts. It punishes the players who want to experiment with builds and not just follow one set build all of the time.
Zefrost at least realized that ANet is likely not going to do a complete reversal of the April Trait change and offered a compromise.
The issues is complaining something of his own doing. He can’t expect A-Net to change the game because he made a Bad choice. I am not saying how the game is set up is all that good but it is what it is. NPE to me even though I am rather new to the game I think is the biggest bunch of crap. I lets people level with hardly having any real challenge. If one choses to take a easier route.
Even if you level “normally,” compared to EotM, the end result is not nearly enough trait points to buy your traits and skills. Unless you spend your leveling time hunting traits, like I did when leveling my Guard, you are not going to wind up with more than a handful of traits.
The amount of skill points needed above and beyond number you earn (not counting racial utilities or Mistfire wolf):
236.
So if someone doesn’t like something in the game they shouldn’t tell ANet that they dislike it in hopes that they’ll change it?
At least Zefrost had a possible solution to the problem to post with his complaint about the traits situation.
The current system does punish having alts. It punishes the players who want to experiment with builds and not just follow one set build all of the time.
Zefrost at least realized that ANet is likely not going to do a complete reversal of the April Trait change and offered a compromise.
The issues is complaining something of his own doing. He can’t expect A-Net to change the game because he made a Bad choice. I am not saying how the game is set up is all that good but it is what it is. NPE to me even though I am rather new to the game I think is the biggest bunch of crap. I lets people level with hardly having any real challenge. If one choses to take a easier route.
The trait unlock system isn’t the NPE doing. NPE was in September. Trait unlocks were given to us with the April Feature pack.
Yes, I have little sympathy for the fact that he leveled up without realizing what it would mean trait wise. Especially given how the system has been around for 8 months now.
That being said, he still has a point with his complaint and suggesting what he did. I myself I’m dreading playing unlock traits for new characters I create and I’ve been leveling them up by playing the game. And I’ve created 2 characters since I got them first one.
Threatening to not recommend the game to his friends over it however is extreme. He would have likely had at least some traits had he leveled up not through the tomes. At least if he didn’t craft the entire way (buying the materials needed).
So if someone doesn’t like something in the game they shouldn’t tell ANet that they dislike it in hopes that they’ll change it?
At least Zefrost had a possible solution to the problem to post with his complaint about the traits situation.
The current system does punish having alts. It punishes the players who want to experiment with builds and not just follow one set build all of the time.
Zefrost at least realized that ANet is likely not going to do a complete reversal of the April Trait change and offered a compromise.
The issues is complaining something of his own doing. He can’t expect A-Net to change the game because he made a Bad choice. I am not saying how the game is set up is all that good but it is what it is. NPE to me even though I am rather new to the game I think is the biggest bunch of crap. I lets people level with hardly having any real challenge. If one choses to take a easier route.
The trait unlock system isn’t the NPE doing. NPE was in September. Trait unlocks were given to us with the April Feature pack.
Yes, I have little sympathy for the fact that he leveled up without realizing what it would mean trait wise. Especially given how the system has been around for 8 months now.
That being said, he still has a point with his complaint and suggesting what he did. I myself I’m dreading playing unlock traits for new characters I create and I’ve been leveling them up by playing the game. And I’ve created 2 characters since I got them first one.
Threatening to not recommend the game to his friends over it however is extreme. He would have likely had at least some traits had he leveled up not through the tomes. At least if he didn’t craft the entire way (buying the materials needed).
He’s spot on though dealing with traits. We have to go so far out of our way for these things and spend so much money and skill points that there’s no point creating anything other than a single character, the cost is too much.
The trait system as is happens to be broken. They pulled a Microsoft, changing what didn’t need to be changed and breaking it in the process. They need to fix the trait system, using one of the many recommendations we gave in the Traits thread.
One of which was to change the unlocks to actual unlocks that are similar to what you’re after. Such as Necromancers using Wells a ton of times before they get the Well upgrades, Mesmers using Glamours a ton before they get the Glamour trait upgrades, etc.
[hS]
PvE Main – Zar Poisonclaw – Daredevil
WvW Main – Ghost Mistcaller – Herald
Yeah, getting killed over and over again by people who actually have traits will make you a better… wait, what?
It will make you a better player? Yes, it will.
Back in my days of WoW, I was an undergeared soloist that found endgame in PvP. I took on raiders that I could barely damage, yet they could heavily damage me. As a result, I had to simply play better. One mistake would likely get me killed. Fast forward to the introduction of PvP gear outside of arenas and I became overpowered.
In my next MMO, I joined a PvP team and got accustomed to easily winning. As a result, I put in less effort.
I got a Ranger to level 80 after the April patch. I did not do EotM, tomes or crafting for levels. I did open world PvE. I managed to unlock a total of (I believe) 4 traits playing how I wanted. One of those happened to be a useful trait. I’ve gone out of my way to cobble together something like a useful build, but it hasn’t been fun. Especially knowing that I’ll have to do the exact same things again if I want to roll another alt, which I don’t. Not anymore.
I’ve actively discouraged my friends from getting the game. I haven’t spent money on gems since April. It’s not extreme, it’s honesty. I’m not even getting my dailies done anymore, and I have plenty of characters with all their traits. But for me, the fun part was making, leveling, outfitting and building new characters. This has had a severely negative impact on my experience of the game.
“Be angry about legendary weapons, sure, but what about the recent drought of content?”
-Mike O’Brien
Because we can’t be angry about both?
How about you…. Go through look up what traits you think you might want? And unlock those first to try out your build. Or go into Heart of the mists and play around in there with different ones until you find some you like. Then either go out and collect THOSE traits doing whatever it takes to get them or simply buy them? And then later on get more as you grow with learning your new profession. Its not that expensive at all. You prepared the tomes and crafting mats/money to level why didn’t you go all the way with skill point scrolls and the needed money for the traits?
I’ve made several new characters and while I don’t really care for the new trait system there are ways around it.
-It’s Lady Paradox- Sweet Adrenaline
“What Part Of Living Says You Gotta Die?
I Plan On Burnin Through Another 9 Lives”
How about you…. Go through look up what traits you think you might want? And unlock those first to try out your build. Or go into Heart of the mists and play around in there with different ones until you find some you like. Then either go out and collect THOSE traits doing whatever it takes to get them or simply buy them? And then later on get more as you grow with learning your new profession. Its not that expensive at all. You prepared the tomes and crafting mats/money to level why didn’t you go all the way with skill point scrolls and the needed money for the traits?
I’ve made several new characters and while I don’t really care for the new trait system there are ways around it.
Until the meta changes, at which point you have to buy the new ones anyway just to try out the new builds. It doesn’t help the real problem, the problem we’ve been trying to get Anet to fix for 8 months.
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PvE Main – Zar Poisonclaw – Daredevil
WvW Main – Ghost Mistcaller – Herald
I got a Ranger to level 80 after the April patch. I did not do EotM, tomes or crafting for levels. I did open world PvE. I managed to unlock a total of (I believe) 4 traits playing how I wanted. One of those happened to be a useful trait.
This, if any, confirms that current trait system is broken. One should have total of zero useful traits after reaching level 80. One useful trait is too simply much. Please fix.
A possible solution would be placing all unlockable traits behind bugged events (like a few of them are already), or alternatively, make currently working trait-unlocking events as bugged. Another option is to place unlocks behind an events that spawns randomly (random time, random map, random server – one server only) once per week.
In addition to placing them behind bugged events and/or events that spawn only once per week, traits should also be time-gated: it would be possible to unlock only one trait per week of actual playing-time (not real life time). This would encourage players to play the actual game instead of using all their time on trait-hunting.
Also, triplefold current trait unlocking skillpoint and gold costs. They are way too cheap.
How about you…. Go through look up what traits you think you might want? And unlock those first to try out your build. Or go into Heart of the mists and play around in there with different ones until you find some you like. Then either go out and collect THOSE traits doing whatever it takes to get them or simply buy them? And then later on get more as you grow with learning your new profession. Its not that expensive at all. You prepared the tomes and crafting mats/money to level why didn’t you go all the way with skill point scrolls and the needed money for the traits?
I’ve made several new characters and while I don’t really care for the new trait system there are ways around it.
Until the meta changes, at which point you have to buy the new ones anyway just to try out the new builds. It doesn’t help the real problem, the problem we’ve been trying to get Anet to fix for 8 months.
Its still away around the CURRENT problem. And with how fast ANet updates traits etc, I’m not too worried about any of that happening and causing much of a problem until much later down the line.
IMO, They were still silly for not planning ahead. If they didn’t know about the trait system they probably shouldn’t be power leveling. Fact is, right now it is what it is and you just have to deal with it if you are making a new character. So plan accordingly, either suck it up and go out and hunt your traits that you want/need. Or Buy them with gold/skill points. Honestly I find it a fair solution. Go out and get the ones you can/want to that are easy. Buy the few you don’t. You never need them ALL all the time anyway. So you get a few for a decent build now and as you go about set aside a day or whatever and get some more you might want to try?
I mean I have 4 characters on my new account at 80 since July when I got the account and none of them have all the traits in available because most of the mare kitten useless anyway.
-It’s Lady Paradox- Sweet Adrenaline
“What Part Of Living Says You Gotta Die?
I Plan On Burnin Through Another 9 Lives”
So if someone doesn’t like something in the game they shouldn’t tell ANet that they dislike it in hopes that they’ll change it?
At least Zefrost had a possible solution to the problem to post with his complaint about the traits situation.
The current system does punish having alts. It punishes the players who want to experiment with builds and not just follow one set build all of the time.
Zefrost at least realized that ANet is likely not going to do a complete reversal of the April Trait change and offered a compromise.
The issues is complaining something of his own doing. He can’t expect A-Net to change the game because he made a Bad choice. I am not saying how the game is set up is all that good but it is what it is. NPE to me even though I am rather new to the game I think is the biggest bunch of crap. I lets people level with hardly having any real challenge. If one choses to take a easier route.
The trait unlock system isn’t the NPE doing. NPE was in September. Trait unlocks were given to us with the April Feature pack.
Yes, I have little sympathy for the fact that he leveled up without realizing what it would mean trait wise. Especially given how the system has been around for 8 months now.
That being said, he still has a point with his complaint and suggesting what he did. I myself I’m dreading playing unlock traits for new characters I create and I’ve been leveling them up by playing the game. And I’ve created 2 characters since I got them first one.
Threatening to not recommend the game to his friends over it however is extreme. He would have likely had at least some traits had he leveled up not through the tomes. At least if he didn’t craft the entire way (buying the materials needed).
He’s spot on though dealing with traits. We have to go so far out of our way for these things and spend so much money and skill points that there’s no point creating anything other than a single character, the cost is too much.
The trait system as is happens to be broken. They pulled a Microsoft, changing what didn’t need to be changed and breaking it in the process. They need to fix the trait system, using one of the many recommendations we gave in the Traits thread.
One of which was to change the unlocks to actual unlocks that are similar to what you’re after. Such as Necromancers using Wells a ton of times before they get the Well upgrades, Mesmers using Glamours a ton before they get the Glamour trait upgrades, etc.
And I agree with that. They went too much to the extreme of those wanting to hunt for traits. I think most who suggested hunting for traits just wanted the highest tier traits to be hunted for. Not every single trait.
However, I don’t have much sympathy for him complaining about the particular character he leveled up to level 80 expecting them to have all their traits given how long the traits unlocking has been around.
I may be missing something, but are a bunch of you saying that it should be a painful grind to create a new alt?
They are, as usual. Why, you ask? Because reasons.
Most of us feel the OP’s pain. Although, to be fair, as a frequent power leveller I find the gold and SP costs associated with the new Trait system to the be the least of my worries. The bulk of my spending is on gear and cosmetics.
I think most who suggested hunting for traits just wanted the highest tier traits to be hunted for. Not every single trait.
However, I don’t have much sympathy for him complaining about the particular character he leveled up to level 80 expecting them to have all their traits given how long the traits unlocking has been around.
This X 2. The Grandmaster traits being similar to Elite skills in GW1 and having to capture them. This is how things should have been or at least have a task/quest similar in levels to the trait and the character level.
Quoted the rest just because I agree, just another complaint thread for the pitchfork crew to circle around.
i don’t recall games giving you skill right away.in lotro you had to visit a trainer and buy the skills.in swtor the same.i think it’s the same for wow and rift but haven’t played them for sooooo long so i don’t remember.but yeah in gw2 you should get those free.sure well done bad feedback here
i’m a poor and lonesome ranger.
Mogrey Norn Ranger [DS]
i don’t recall games giving you skill right away.in lotro you had to visit a trainer and buy the skills.in swtor the same.i think it’s the same for wow and rift but haven’t played them for sooooo long so i don’t remember.but yeah in gw2 you should get those free.sure well done bad feedback here
I’m not actually sure you know what OP’s talking about.
In SW:TOR, yes, you buy skills, but OP’s not talking about skills. OP’s talking about traits. And in SW:TOR, the analogue would be the specialization trees that you quite definitely do get a point for for free every level.
Also, I think it’s a safe bet that you started post-April 2014, because you don’t seem to know how the system worked before then.
I got a Ranger to level 80 after the April patch. I did not do EotM, tomes or crafting for levels. I did open world PvE. I managed to unlock a total of (I believe) 4 traits playing how I wanted. One of those happened to be a useful trait. I’ve gone out of my way to cobble together something like a useful build, but it hasn’t been fun. Especially knowing that I’ll have to do the exact same things again if I want to roll another alt, which I don’t. Not anymore.
I’ve actively discouraged my friends from getting the game. I haven’t spent money on gems since April. It’s not extreme, it’s honesty. I’m not even getting my dailies done anymore, and I have plenty of characters with all their traits. But for me, the fun part was making, leveling, outfitting and building new characters. This has had a severely negative impact on my experience of the game.
You must be skipping huge sections of the game then. I just leveled a mesmer and I was constantly getting traits unlocked without even trying. Kill a world boss? Trait unlocked. Open a hidden chest? Trait unlocked. Help a small group kill a champ? Trait unlocked. Capture a tower in EotM? Trait unlocked.
I’m not saying the system is perfect. Several, such as those tied to map completion, killing the grub in wvw, the personal story requirements, etc, are a bit outrageous and need to be reworked.
With the help of some friends or guildmates though, quite a few of the traits can easily be unlocked within a few days. And those you don’t or can’t unlock, you can save up to buy later.
i don’t recall games giving you skill right away.in lotro you had to visit a trainer and buy the skills.in swtor the same.i think it’s the same for wow and rift but haven’t played them for sooooo long so i don’t remember.but yeah in gw2 you should get those free.sure well done bad feedback here
I’m not actually sure you know what OP’s talking about.
In SW:TOR, yes, you buy skills, but OP’s not talking about skills. OP’s talking about traits. And in SW:TOR, the analogue would be the specialization trees that you quite definitely do get a point for for free every level.
Also, I think it’s a safe bet that you started post-April 2014, because you don’t seem to know how the system worked before then.
i know well how the system worked before.i have all the traits with no effort at all just lvling.just didn’t really found the change that bad it just make you play the game.and if you are bored you can buy them.maybe it’s just me but i think many of us have plenty of gold just sitting in our wallet
don’t get me wrong i just found the skill unlocking way to easy so unlock traits via playing the game or just visiting the trainor doesn’t seem hard and bad change
i’m a poor and lonesome ranger.
Mogrey Norn Ranger [DS]
i don’t recall games giving you skill right away.in lotro you had to visit a trainer and buy the skills.in swtor the same.i think it’s the same for wow and rift but haven’t played them for sooooo long so i don’t remember.but yeah in gw2 you should get those free.sure well done bad feedback here
I’m not actually sure you know what OP’s talking about.
In SW:TOR, yes, you buy skills, but OP’s not talking about skills. OP’s talking about traits. And in SW:TOR, the analogue would be the specialization trees that you quite definitely do get a point for for free every level.
Also, I think it’s a safe bet that you started post-April 2014, because you don’t seem to know how the system worked before then.
i know well how the system worked before.i have all the traits with no effort at all just lvling.just didn’t really found the change that bad it just make you play the game.and if you are bored you can buy them.maybe it’s just me but i think many of us have plenty of gold just sitting in our wallet
don’t get me wrong i just found the skill unlocking way to easy so unlock traits via playing the game or just visiting the trainor doesn’t seem hard and bad change
So you unlocked the traits tied to bugged events that aren’t completable without any effort at all, eh? Just through levelling, eh? Beat the Overgrown Grub no problems, no effort, and just through levelling, eh?
i don’t recall games giving you skill right away.in lotro you had to visit a trainer and buy the skills.in swtor the same.i think it’s the same for wow and rift but haven’t played them for sooooo long so i don’t remember.but yeah in gw2 you should get those free.sure well done bad feedback here
I’m not actually sure you know what OP’s talking about.
In SW:TOR, yes, you buy skills, but OP’s not talking about skills. OP’s talking about traits. And in SW:TOR, the analogue would be the specialization trees that you quite definitely do get a point for for free every level.
Also, I think it’s a safe bet that you started post-April 2014, because you don’t seem to know how the system worked before then.
i know well how the system worked before.i have all the traits with no effort at all just lvling.just didn’t really found the change that bad it just make you play the game.and if you are bored you can buy them.maybe it’s just me but i think many of us have plenty of gold just sitting in our wallet
don’t get me wrong i just found the skill unlocking way to easy so unlock traits via playing the game or just visiting the trainor doesn’t seem hard and bad change
So you unlocked the traits tied to bugged events that aren’t completable without any effort at all, eh? Just through levelling, eh? Beat the Overgrown Grub no problems, no effort, and just through levelling, eh?
almost got all the traits for my alts.the only traits i don’t have are those i don’t need.as for the bug events it’s something anet should work.or even rework the system if they can’t fix the events.
and yeah it’s safe to complaining when you are just power-leveled.where’s the effort exactly in powerleveling?people have skipped many aspects of the game and they are complaining.pretty good feeback here “hey i skip your game but want the traits”
i’m a poor and lonesome ranger.
Mogrey Norn Ranger [DS]
i don’t recall games giving you skill right away.in lotro you had to visit a trainer and buy the skills.in swtor the same.i think it’s the same for wow and rift but haven’t played them for sooooo long so i don’t remember.but yeah in gw2 you should get those free.sure well done bad feedback here
I’m not actually sure you know what OP’s talking about.
In SW:TOR, yes, you buy skills, but OP’s not talking about skills. OP’s talking about traits. And in SW:TOR, the analogue would be the specialization trees that you quite definitely do get a point for for free every level.
Also, I think it’s a safe bet that you started post-April 2014, because you don’t seem to know how the system worked before then.
i know well how the system worked before.i have all the traits with no effort at all just lvling.just didn’t really found the change that bad it just make you play the game.and if you are bored you can buy them.maybe it’s just me but i think many of us have plenty of gold just sitting in our wallet
don’t get me wrong i just found the skill unlocking way to easy so unlock traits via playing the game or just visiting the trainor doesn’t seem hard and bad change
So you unlocked the traits tied to bugged events that aren’t completable without any effort at all, eh? Just through levelling, eh? Beat the Overgrown Grub no problems, no effort, and just through levelling, eh?
almost got all the traits for my alts.the only traits i don’t have are those i don’t need.as for the bug events it’s something anet should work.or even rework the system if they can’t fix the events.
and yeah it’s safe to complaining when you are just power-leveled.where’s the effort exactly in powerleveling?people have skipped many aspects of the game and they are complaining.pretty good feeback here “hey i skip your game but want the traits”
Except they already said that they have done 100% map completion in the game, just on another character. So they didn’t skip the entire game. They already completed the map.
And, since the game puts such an emphasis on account-wide unlocks rather than character-specific, what with account-bound gear, account-wide bank, account-wide wallet, account-wide skins and minis, etc., it’s actually quite logical that trait unlocks should also be account-wide. It’s actually illogical and out of sync with the rest of the game to have it be restricted to character only.
