Guild Wars 2

Why does my Pvp game require pve?

I think I know what the OP meant. Some players do not play this game for the WvW or PvP. They only do it for the PvE. Either they are bad at playing against players, or they suck at playing games, or like me, I have no interest in fighting against other players. Forcing them into a player vs player arena like WvW is just “forcing” them to do what they can’t do or what they don’t like to do.

I got my 100% completion on my main char by just following the zerg, or by trying my luck at some location that the zerg does not go to. Once I had to suicide run into a poi with 15+ invaders waiting. I have no problem dying since my sole purpose is to get the poi. After 100% completion, I only go into EB to get the badges from the jp. Since it the only way to get the badges without going against other players. Now I have like 200+ badges, only chalk up assisted kills by following zergs and thats it. I will never go into WvW just to fight against other players or go into PvP. No interest in it, even if it is fun to many, doesn’t mean it is fun for some.

You can say I am bad at playing games too if you want, I don’t care. I play this game because it is fun to play with player not against player. That is all.

SirDrygan.1823:

I play this game because it is fun to play with player not against player. That is all.

This is exactly what people are missing. We want to play what we find fun. It’s rather silly that many of the previous posters believe that me trying to do World Completion is for some means to an end. I couldn’t care less about building Legendary weapons right now. Has anyone ever thought that the reason why I want World Completion is to just have it? I thought that completing (the 99% of) was very fun to do.

An extreme comparison is any paying job. Do you always go to work for the paycheck? I’m sure many of you will say yes, but what about those who go to work because they enjoy it? Are you going to try to rationalize your measured rewards to their intangible reward? You guys might not care about that star next to my character’s name, but I want it. My fun cannot be measured by your honor badge collection.

GW2 has done so many things right which allows players to play the game how they want. This forcing of WvW upon players is just one of those – what I believe to be – blunders. It’s not that I don’t enjoy WvW, but it’s not my focus right now and that irks me a little. The experience is not comparable to monsters in PvE attack you while you explore; they at least drop [worthwhile] loot. Plus you can come across jumping puzzles, interesting events, etc. In WvW? You don’t really get any of those.

Hazal Birunae.6082:

If you’re going down this route, why do WvW players have to do so much PvE? It can go both ways, buddy.

People can’t grief you by preventing you from completing anything in the PVE world, nor can they make devices that attack you continuously that you can’t reach because you are on a jumping puzzle. Your argument is invalid.

This should pretty much be reported as a “blocking progression” “exploitable” bug because it does both of those things. They freely allow people to stop you from completing exploration by either killing you, using game mechanics to knock you off jp, and block you from reaching POI’s I guarantee you that this doesn’t happen in any exploration of PVE.

Iruwen.3164:

WvW is WvW. Which means PvPvE, basically. That’s how it was designed.

There is no PvPvE, there is no versus enviroment, the “pve” elements in it are entirely inconsequential in themselves the only competitve element is provided by the other players trying to stop you from completing the “pve” objectives.

The ‘v’ stand for ‘versus’ not ‘killing’ in ‘PvP’, in WvW you compete against the other team, not the doors or odd NPC, if you having trouble knockign a door down when there are no enemy players trying to stop you, well…

my question is: why WvW is PvE????

Do don’t want to do WvW? That’s cool. I can respect that.

Do you think you should be rewarded by not fully completing the required tasks for map completion? That’s not cool. Can’t respect that.

If you want the reward. Put in the effort.

I don’t like dungeons. Yet I still had to grind fractals for ascended rings.

Krimpton.4879:

LOCO.1785:

Krimpton.4879:

I think most of us are totally NOT INTERESTED in killing other players..
And the only reason most people are in WvW is because its one of the easiest and most efficient ways to farm Karma.
Oh and its full of underwater farming botts too..
And people camped in the jumping puzzle 24 hours a day to get there ‘’easy kills’’
The only Added danger in it is if one zerg is going clockwise round the map and the other is going anti clockwise and they accidently bump into each other.
Even then with the culling issue you dont see 90% of the people on either side so where is the excitement in that.??
Killed by invisibility.. ;p
{Edit to agree with op} and yes i agree with the op WvW should Never had been made a part of world completion.. thats a fact.. end of story..

Most of us not interested in killing other players?

Only reason people WvW is for easy karma?

Full of underwater bots?

People camping the JP 24/7?

Culling effects 90% of the enemy?

This post is so wrong I don’t know where to begin…

All of the above has been seen by me..
And ALL of the above has been reported in these very forums multiple times by many.. many other players..
So.. be constructive or go try to increase your post count some other way.. ty

I concur, ALL those problems are legitimate – I’ve seen them all myself too. Posts like this has appeared since launch ~ and I agree, WvW shouldn’t have any part with a PvE title, after all ~ WvW is a PvP Hybrid Map, with heavy emphasis on PvP.