Will the new legendaries be a gold sink?

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Posted by: Pandeh.5248

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From what I have seen and heard. We have to through several stages of crafting the precursors. Each will probably cost 100+ gold each.

As said by many before, obtaining a precursor from the scavenger hunt will probably cost about the same as just buying it. Its Anet, they run a gem store, gotta make those kittens pay.

What I would rather see, is something completely shut off from the economy of the game. Especially for the new legendaries. If you ever want at least some of the items in your game to mean something. You cannot let it be bought by gems, through the conversion to gold.

What is a legendary worth if you can just buy it with a fat wallet?

Please make these new legendaries truly legendary. Completely shut off from your gem store. Something players have to work for, bleed and sweat. Not some, oh hey farm X gold or just convert your dollars to gems legendary.

But a game has to make money and I have zero confidence that the new legendaries will have much to them other that a gold sink to promote gems purchases.

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Posted by: Smooth Penguin.5294

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The new Legendaries’ Precursors will only be available through high level trait tracks. They’ll also be Account Bound, so it’ll be a true long-term goal. However, if a player decides to invest completely into the Precursor track, and bypass all other traits, then that’ll probably shorten their crafting by a bit.

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Posted by: Inculpatus cedo.9234

Inculpatus cedo.9234

New precursors and Legendaries are not tradable.

Completing this collection unlocks a recipe to do just that, resulting in another nontradable exotic weapon with the existing precursor skin’.

We also want to better preserve the prestige associated with crafting a legendary weapon, so the new legendary weapons, and their precursors, will not be tradable’.

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/a-legendary-journey/

Thus, in answer to your query: No, they will not be another Gold-sink.

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Posted by: Exciton.8942

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New precursors are not tradable.

Completing this collection unlocks a recipe to do just that, resulting in another nontradable exotic weapon with the existing precursor skin’.

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/a-legendary-journey/

Thus, in answer to your query: No, they will not be another Gold-sink.

I think OP is talking about trading for items needed for the collection achievement not the precursor itself.

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Posted by: Inculpatus cedo.9234

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Well, if that were the case, there would be many mats that would become Account-bound, and quite difficult and time-intensive to collect. I don’t think that would be welcomed.

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Posted by: Just a flesh wound.3589

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I don’t know about you but I wasn’t planning to buy gems to exchange for gold to make one of the new Legendaries. That would be hundreds of dollars and and imo an extremely foolish thing to do.

Somehow I doubt this is as big a problem as people claim it is. The number of people willing to buy, say, 4000 gold (~30,000 gems, ~$375€) is likely not that high but if people want to spend almost $400€ on shiny pixels well, let them. It doesn’t make your pixels shine any less.

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Posted by: Danikat.8537

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I’ve always been sceptical that many people actually buy legendaries (or even precursors) with real money.

Sure you can do it, but unless you have money to burn in real life it’s just not worth it. Yes I know people throw around numbers for the amount you can earn per hour in a minimum wage job vs. per hour farming in game. But having worked several minimum wage jobs and now working a (marginally) better paid job I actually love doing I’d rather spend my time playing GW2 than work extra hours at any job to afford a virtual weapon.

I don’t deny that it’s a problem that they can be bought. Legendaries should be account bound from the moment they’re created. Precursors, since they’re so reliant on RNG, need to be tradable but that won’t be an issue for the new ones.

But I’m not convinced a significant number of people actually do buy gems to convert to gold to get one. I think it’s much more likely the majority of people buying them are TP flippers, dungeon runners etc. who hate some part of the process of making a legendary so much they refuse to do it, or simply don’t know what else to do with all the gold they make.

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Posted by: GreyWraith.8394

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Well, if that were the case, there would be many mats that would become Account-bound, and quite difficult and time-intensive to collect. I don’t think that would be welcomed.

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Posted by: Phy.2913

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Short yes: Yes
Long answer: It has to be, or something else has to be.

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Posted by: Wanze.8410

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OP, which one would you call a legendary:

A. an item which can be obtained in the 7-11 down the street
B. an item hidden in a frozen cave in the Himalayas which is guarded by 10 dragons

Depends on the guy at the check out at the 7-11 and what kind of dragon.

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Posted by: Inculpatus cedo.9234

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Well, if that were the case, there would be many mats that would become Account-bound, and quite difficult and time-intensive to collect. I don’t think that would be welcomed.

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Are you advocating T6 mats become account-bound? Again, I’m not sure that would be universally welcomed.

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Posted by: Swagger.1459

Swagger.1459

New precursors and Legendaries are not tradable.

Completing this collection unlocks a recipe to do just that, resulting in another nontradable exotic weapon with the existing precursor skin’.

We also want to better preserve the prestige associated with crafting a legendary weapon, so the new legendary weapons, and their precursors, will not be tradable’.

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/a-legendary-journey/

Thus, in answer to your query: No, they will not be another Gold-sink.

Of course precursors and legendaries will be a gold sink. Not sure why you equate “non-tradable” with not being a gold sink.

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Posted by: Inculpatus cedo.9234

Inculpatus cedo.9234

Indeed. You are correct.

I may have been mistaken thinking the OP was concerned about players being able to ‘purchase’ completed Precursors or Legendaries with Gems bought with real cash. And that that was the ‘Gold Sink’ that was referred to.

My apologies.

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Posted by: ThatDamnRat.1236

ThatDamnRat.1236

New precursors and Legendaries are not tradable.

Completing this collection unlocks a recipe to do just that, resulting in another nontradable exotic weapon with the existing precursor skin’.

We also want to better preserve the prestige associated with crafting a legendary weapon, so the new legendary weapons, and their precursors, will not be tradable’.
.

Talk about closing the stable after the horse has bolted….

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Posted by: Swagger.1459

Swagger.1459

Indeed. You are correct.

I may have been mistaken thinking the OP was concerned about players being able to ‘purchase’ completed Precursors or Legendaries with Gems bought with real cash. And that that was the ‘Gold Sink’ that was referred to.

My apologies.

Gotcha. No harm, no foul.

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Posted by: GreyWraith.8394

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Well, if that were the case, there would be many mats that would become Account-bound, and quite difficult and time-intensive to collect. I don’t think that would be welcomed.

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Are you advocating T6 mats become account-bound? Again, I’m not sure that would be universally welcomed.

No, I am not referring to T6 mats. I’m saying that just because ‘time intensive account bound mats’ won’t be welcomed doesn’t mean they won’t be part of the precursor crafting process. I cited Mawdrey as an example of a very long/expensive crafting process that involves unique/account bound ingredients (as well as time-gating).

It is likely that there will be new account bound and/or time-gated ingredients or intermediate steps involved in precursor creation, as Mawdrey includes Powerful Grow Lamp/Mist Infused Clay Pot/etc. Some of those steps will probably be expensive gold sinks.

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Posted by: Garth Thurgen.1380

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Well, if that were the case, there would be many mats that would become Account-bound, and quite difficult and time-intensive to collect. I don’t think that would be welcomed.

Mawdrey says hello.

Are you advocating T6 mats become account-bound? Again, I’m not sure that would be universally welcomed.

No, I am not referring to T6 mats. I’m saying that just because ‘time intensive account bound mats’ won’t be welcomed doesn’t mean they won’t be part of the precursor crafting process. I cited Mawdrey as an example of a very long/expensive crafting process that involves unique/account bound ingredients (as well as time-gating).

It is likely that there will be new account bound and/or time-gated ingredients or intermediate steps involved in precursor creation, as Mawdrey includes Powerful Grow Lamp/Mist Infused Clay Pot/etc. Some of those steps will probably be expensive gold sinks.

The relevant time gating isn’t from Account Bound stuffs. All of the Account Bound stuff isn’t time gated (though, none of it comes from crafting, only from the Mystic Forge/Fractals/Drops), and all of the time gated stuffs are buyable (the plant foods, the clay pots, and the Heat Stone). Mawdrey is the closest to what you’re talking about, but it still doesn’t work as an example due to the exclusive nature of the items either being Account Bound or Time Gated.

I, however, do not disagree that some people will dislike it should they do it as you say. There is a bizarrely large amount of people who will complain at the very first sign of effort required.