Guild Wars 2

another t6 mat farming spot nerfed

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Skelk farm got nerfed. I really don’t understand the logic of anet, they place a 200% magic find buff in an area and then nerf the places farmed in that area

ExTribble.7108:

Care to elaborate? Or do you consider the forums a place to just post random comments without context?

“World: Southsun – Reduced density of reef skelk around Pearl Islet”

I’m sure the OP was half-joking, but yeah I guess another farming nerf.

Stop nerfing! I’m never gonna get my legendary.

Well I guess gonna have to move on to another spot. Luckly they only nerfed 1 specific spot, still funny ^^
But np, soon there will be comments of ppl who will say that the 200mf wasnt meant for farmers :P

It was a joke, but I just don’t understand the hate by anet for farming

It’s Arenanet’s way of saying: You can haz no monniez without buying our gemz!!

Why do they still allow that any killed foe gives loot?

Well, I had a ‘crazy little thing called love’ for that spot, I’d run out screaming ’don’t stop me now!" The only time I’d leave is if there was a ‘dragon attack’ and I’d be gone in a ‘flash’. You see, getting my legendary is a ‘long way’ off, but ‘you don’t fool me’ anet, you don’t want me to ‘play the game’

Ah well, ‘bohemian rhapsody’.

With all these nerfs to farming soon the only way to make money fast will be CoF p1

Navi.7142:

Why do they still allow that any killed foe gives loot?

Give it time and a few more patches and they probably won’t.

Melfice.5091:

With all these nerfs to farming soon the only way to make money fast will be CoF p1

And than they will nerf that as well!

lol, just lol.
you have to farm for the legendary, but we won’t let you farm (cit. A.net)

Shar.3402:

lol, just lol.
you have to farm for the legendary, but we won’t let you farm (cit. A.net)

actually you can by gold with real money using gems

Windu The Forbidden One.6045:

It’s Arenanet’s way of saying: You can haz no monniez without buying our gemz!!

Pretty much this…

It’s why I refuse to buy gems. Bought some way back in October before I took a break, but none since I came back about a month ago.

Sovta.4719:

Shar.3402:

lol, just lol.
you have to farm for the legendary, but we won’t let you farm (cit. A.net)

actually you can by gold with real money using gems

…that’s the whole point of what anet is trying to do. However people will farm basically anything before being forced to use real money.

I want a legendary.

I want to gather everything up on my own. But Anet keeps removing my ability to do so. I farmed the skelks, yes, for bloods and fangs. When I hit 250, I would move on.

I dont want to run CoF path 1 20,000 times, I don’t believe a legendary should be about gold earned. So I highly disagree with running CoF for straight cash.

I honestly don’t know where to go next to finish my T6 mats. It seems Anet removed every way of getting them. Even recently I went to do some events in orr, did about 5 events in a chain, didn’t receive a single moldy bag. Seriously, how the kitten do we do this without buying gold or running CoF?

Ruh roh. Looks like the farmers are up in arms. Anyone actually play and see how much slower it is to make money? Maybe try killing some of the other stuff on the island which drops blood and fangs?

Honestly I don’t get you guys. In the time you’ve been here complaining, I’ve gotten 4 armored scales. And it hasn’t been that long.

Yeah it’s getting pretty bad that all farming is being funneled > Cof P1 runs. Idk who’s in charge of balancing all this , but one thing is for sure….no one is overseeing that person.

Vayne.8563:

Ruh roh. Looks like the farmers are up in arms. Anyone actually play and see how much slower it is to make money? Maybe try killing some of the other stuff on the island which drops blood and fangs?

Honestly I don’t get you guys. In the time you’ve been here complaining, I’ve gotten 4 armored scales. And it hasn’t been that long.

Ty Colin for response, now where is loot fix for FotM?

Sovta.4719:

Vayne.8563:

Ruh roh. Looks like the farmers are up in arms. Anyone actually play and see how much slower it is to make money? Maybe try killing some of the other stuff on the island which drops blood and fangs?

Honestly I don’t get you guys. In the time you’ve been here complaining, I’ve gotten 4 armored scales. And it hasn’t been that long.

Ty Colin for response, now where is loot fix for FotM?

No idea, since I don’t have a problem getting loot from FotM.

Vayne.8563:

Ruh roh. Looks like the farmers are up in arms. Anyone actually play and see how much slower it is to make money? Maybe try killing some of the other stuff on the island which drops blood and fangs?

Honestly I don’t get you guys. In the time you’ve been here complaining, I’ve gotten 4 armored scales. And it hasn’t been that long.

Here we go…

Don’t mind Vayne. He don’t understand making 5-7 gold an hour is much more than 2-3 gold an hour.

There obviously is comparible difference in farming efficiency.

laokoko.7403:

Don’t mind Vayne. He don’t understand making 5-7 gold an hour is much more than 2-3 gold an hour.

There obviously is comparible difference in farming efficiency.

Or that people who just like to farm (i’m not one of them, i can farm now and then but not for long, i don’t mind if others do that, even if that makes them rich) are probably 50% or more of MMO playerbase. And what will they do if you constantly nerf farming? Well we all know it…

yeah lol don’t mind vayne. he knows what’s best for him. not for us :P

Sovta.4719:

laokoko.7403:

Don’t mind Vayne. He don’t understand making 5-7 gold an hour is much more than 2-3 gold an hour.

There obviously is comparible difference in farming efficiency.

Or that people who just like to farm (i’m not one of them, i can farm now and then but not for long, i don’t mind if others do that, even if that makes them rich) are probably 50% or more of MMO playerbase. And what will they do if you constantly nerf farming? Well we all know it…

ya I don’t want to get involve in that conversation but it is really people’s expectation.

Some people are happy that they play a few hours and make like a few gold which is “much less efficient” than farming in a specific spot(people like Vayne). Some are not. It really is your expectation.

Wow I’m happy to see such a large turn out on my topic, I’m glad to know I’m not the only one who thinks they should ADD farming spots

Melfice.5091:

With all these nerfs to farming soon the only way to make money fast will be CoF p1

Flipping is actually the most effort-effective method. And it’s clear from TP values that everyone and their grandma is doing it. …especially in the case of Dust where you have flippers flipping flippers flipping flippers. It’s like an echo-chamer of uncalled-for inflation (though J.Smith will claim otherwise based on Real-World principles that also intentionally obfuscates actual Consumer-Price-Index values)

Sovta.4719:

laokoko.7403:

Don’t mind Vayne. He don’t understand making 5-7 gold an hour is much more than 2-3 gold an hour.

There obviously is comparible difference in farming efficiency.

Or that people who just like to farm (i’m not one of them, i can farm now and then but not for long, i don’t mind if others do that, even if that makes them rich) are probably 50% or more of MMO playerbase. And what will they do if you constantly nerf farming? Well we all know it…

What makes you think people who farm (and I mean hard core farm like they’d notice this) is 50% of the population? Crystal ball? Lucky guess?

I think that the farming population is actually much smaller than you think.

I am curious what the thought process was the lead to the 200% MF buff on the island if they were just going to turn around and do kitten like this? It almost seems like a cruel joke now. Just waiting for a dev to pop on and yell “Psych!”. If anyone ever asks why I will not buy gems, I point to kitten like this and just reply “kitten em…”

God of Gods.7235:

Wow I’m happy to see such a large turn out on my topic, I’m glad to know I’m not the only one who thinks they should ADD farming spots

You’re not the only one. The whole farming community, whatever percentage of the game that is, would probably agree with you. I’m guessing about 15% of the game’s population, but it’s just a guess.

But since I’m tired of seeing complaint after complaint by people who can’t like go around the corner and farm the next thing (because other farmers do it)….no you have to have that “easy” farm.

Phaedryn.3698:

I am curious what the thought process was the lead to the 200% MF buff on the island if they were just going to turn around and do kitten like this? It almost seems like a cruel joke now. Just waiting for a dev to pop on and yell “Psych!”. If anyone ever asks why I will not buy gems, I point to kitten like this and just reply “kitten em…”

I don’t know, that buff’s been around for a couple of weeks. They nerfed one area of an entire island. I’m not so sure what’s so hard about killing karka or killing reef riders, or going into the water and killing sharks. Maybe it’s me.

Vayne.8563:

Phaedryn.3698:

I am curious what the thought process was the lead to the 200% MF buff on the island if they were just going to turn around and do kitten like this? It almost seems like a cruel joke now. Just waiting for a dev to pop on and yell “Psych!”. If anyone ever asks why I will not buy gems, I point to kitten like this and just reply “kitten em…”

I don’t know, that buff’s been around for a couple of weeks. They nerfed one area of an entire island. I’m not so sure what’s so hard about killing karka or killing reef riders, or going into the water and killing sharks. Maybe it’s me.

Don’t you notice some place get you more money? That’s say you make 2 gold maybe the other people can make 5?

My tin foil hat says me the 200% buff was an experiment for them to see how mf works and they will have a look at the data that is provided after a while to figure it out. (But that’s another topic.. ^^)

laokoko.7403:

Vayne.8563:

Phaedryn.3698:

I am curious what the thought process was the lead to the 200% MF buff on the island if they were just going to turn around and do kitten like this? It almost seems like a cruel joke now. Just waiting for a dev to pop on and yell “Psych!”. If anyone ever asks why I will not buy gems, I point to kitten like this and just reply “kitten em…”

I don’t know, that buff’s been around for a couple of weeks. They nerfed one area of an entire island. I’m not so sure what’s so hard about killing karka or killing reef riders, or going into the water and killing sharks. Maybe it’s me.

Don’t you notice some place get you more money? That’s say you make 2 gold maybe the other people can make 5?

I saw your comment the first time.

The farm was too easy. Everyone was doing it. They took it away, and people will find another farming spot, in this case 5 feet away.

Do you know the express “storm in a teacup”. Every time they nerf a farming spot, a few guys get irate, someone else finds another farming spot and they farm.

Storm in a teacup. I’m sure you can make just as much money if not more farming armored scale. The sharks are fantastic.

Going to miss that spot. I only farmed it in a few short sessions, so didnt get that much out of it. Stil, i enjoyed the option of having a spot where one could earn a profit in the open world, as oposed to running cof again and again and again. Then add a few more agains. It’s not like running cof is that a good solution to getting t6 mats either tho, as they need to enter the economy in the first place. If everyone went to cof to get their T6 mats through buying em on the tp, how would the prices develop?:-/

And no need to go on a vayne bash trend, he has his views and we have ours. No need to ridicule him.

Supose if i may sugest it to the op, that having made the topic name something akin to discussion about change to skelk farming or something similar would make more people notice the topic. The curent one can be a bit vague;P

Vayne.8563:

laokoko.7403:

Vayne.8563:

Phaedryn.3698:

I am curious what the thought process was the lead to the 200% MF buff on the island if they were just going to turn around and do kitten like this? It almost seems like a cruel joke now. Just waiting for a dev to pop on and yell “Psych!”. If anyone ever asks why I will not buy gems, I point to kitten like this and just reply “kitten em…”

I don’t know, that buff’s been around for a couple of weeks. They nerfed one area of an entire island. I’m not so sure what’s so hard about killing karka or killing reef riders, or going into the water and killing sharks. Maybe it’s me.

Don’t you notice some place get you more money? That’s say you make 2 gold maybe the other people can make 5?

I saw your comment the first time.

The farm was too easy. Everyone was doing it. They took it away, and people will find another farming spot, in this case 5 feet away.

Do you know the express “storm in a teacup”. Every time they nerf a farming spot, a few guys get irate, someone else finds another farming spot and they farm.

Storm in a teacup. I’m sure you can make just as much money if not more farming armored scale. The sharks are fantastic.

And how much money you make per hour? Your just giving out sentimental argument without real concrete number.

laokoko.7403:

Vayne.8563:

laokoko.7403:

Vayne.8563:

Phaedryn.3698:

I am curious what the thought process was the lead to the 200% MF buff on the island if they were just going to turn around and do kitten like this? It almost seems like a cruel joke now. Just waiting for a dev to pop on and yell “Psych!”. If anyone ever asks why I will not buy gems, I point to kitten like this and just reply “kitten em…”

I don’t know, that buff’s been around for a couple of weeks. They nerfed one area of an entire island. I’m not so sure what’s so hard about killing karka or killing reef riders, or going into the water and killing sharks. Maybe it’s me.

Don’t you notice some place get you more money? That’s say you make 2 gold maybe the other people can make 5?

I saw your comment the first time.

The farm was too easy. Everyone was doing it. They took it away, and people will find another farming spot, in this case 5 feet away.

Do you know the express “storm in a teacup”. Every time they nerf a farming spot, a few guys get irate, someone else finds another farming spot and they farm.

Storm in a teacup. I’m sure you can make just as much money if not more farming armored scale. The sharks are fantastic.

And how much money you make per hour? Your just giving out sentimental argument without real concrete number.

I know this stuns you but I’ll never farm for an hour straight, so I couldn’t possibly tell you. But since armored scale seem to be dropping quite well and since they sell for more than blood at this moment, I’ll go and say that until you try it, you’ll never know.

And if there is one single spot in the game where you can make significantly more than any other spot, for significantly less effort, it should be nerfed. That’s actually good game design, not bad game design.

Vayne.8563:

laokoko.7403:

Vayne.8563:

laokoko.7403:

Vayne.8563:

Phaedryn.3698:

I am curious what the thought process was the lead to the 200% MF buff on the island if they were just going to turn around and do kitten like this? It almost seems like a cruel joke now. Just waiting for a dev to pop on and yell “Psych!”. If anyone ever asks why I will not buy gems, I point to kitten like this and just reply “kitten em…”

I don’t know, that buff’s been around for a couple of weeks. They nerfed one area of an entire island. I’m not so sure what’s so hard about killing karka or killing reef riders, or going into the water and killing sharks. Maybe it’s me.

Don’t you notice some place get you more money? That’s say you make 2 gold maybe the other people can make 5?

I saw your comment the first time.

The farm was too easy. Everyone was doing it. They took it away, and people will find another farming spot, in this case 5 feet away.

Do you know the express “storm in a teacup”. Every time they nerf a farming spot, a few guys get irate, someone else finds another farming spot and they farm.

Storm in a teacup. I’m sure you can make just as much money if not more farming armored scale. The sharks are fantastic.

And how much money you make per hour? Your just giving out sentimental argument without real concrete number.

I know this stuns you but I’ll never farm for an hour straight, so I couldn’t possibly tell you. But since armored scale seem to be dropping quite well and since they sell for more than blood at this moment, I’ll go and say that until you try it, you’ll never know.

And if there is one single spot in the game where you can make significantly more than any other spot, for significantly less effort, it should be nerfed. That’s actually good game design, not bad game design.

So basically you can’t back up what you are saying. You say those shark are as good as farming other event in terms of efficiency but you can’t back it up.

And someone actually told me about shark farming a while ago. I believe those shark don’t have knockback and engineer is great to grenaide them. But the thing with farming those is they are not event, so if there are too many people it’ll get over crowded.

laokoko.7403:

Vayne.8563:

laokoko.7403:

Vayne.8563:

laokoko.7403:

Vayne.8563:

Phaedryn.3698:

I am curious what the thought process was the lead to the 200% MF buff on the island if they were just going to turn around and do kitten like this? It almost seems like a cruel joke now. Just waiting for a dev to pop on and yell “Psych!”. If anyone ever asks why I will not buy gems, I point to kitten like this and just reply “kitten em…”

I don’t know, that buff’s been around for a couple of weeks. They nerfed one area of an entire island. I’m not so sure what’s so hard about killing karka or killing reef riders, or going into the water and killing sharks. Maybe it’s me.

Don’t you notice some place get you more money? That’s say you make 2 gold maybe the other people can make 5?

I saw your comment the first time.

The farm was too easy. Everyone was doing it. They took it away, and people will find another farming spot, in this case 5 feet away.

Do you know the express “storm in a teacup”. Every time they nerf a farming spot, a few guys get irate, someone else finds another farming spot and they farm.

Storm in a teacup. I’m sure you can make just as much money if not more farming armored scale. The sharks are fantastic.

And how much money you make per hour? Your just giving out sentimental argument without real concrete number.

I know this stuns you but I’ll never farm for an hour straight, so I couldn’t possibly tell you. But since armored scale seem to be dropping quite well and since they sell for more than blood at this moment, I’ll go and say that until you try it, you’ll never know.

And if there is one single spot in the game where you can make significantly more than any other spot, for significantly less effort, it should be nerfed. That’s actually good game design, not bad game design.

So basically you can’t back up what you are saying. You say those shark are as good as farming other event in terms of efficiency but you can’t back it up.

And someone actually told me about shark farming a while ago. I believe those shark don’t have knockback and engineer is great to grenaide them. But the thing with farming those is they are not event, so if there are too many people it’ll get over crowded.

The skelk were an event?

I didn’t say you’d get as much money, that’s putting words in my mouth. What I am saying is adapt. If you’re getting significantly more money (and have been for a couple of weeks) than you can elsewhere in the game, Anet was RIGHT to nerf it.

Obviously, you want as much money as you can get as fast as you can get it. Too bad.

Vayne.8563:

And if there is one single spot in the game where you can make significantly more than any other spot, for significantly less effort, it should be nerfed. That’s actually good game design, not bad game design.

CoF P1 says hello while every open world farm that provides less gets nerfed.

ilr.9675:

Melfice.5091:

With all these nerfs to farming soon the only way to make money fast will be CoF p1

Flipping is actually the most effort-effective method. And it’s clear from TP values that everyone and their grandma is doing it. …especially in the case of Dust where you have flippers flipping flippers flipping flippers. It’s like an echo-chamer of uncalled-for inflation (though J.Smith will claim otherwise based on Real-World principles that also intentionally obfuscates actual Consumer-Price-Index values)

I’ve seen what happens when flippers price themselves out of the market. Prices crash, and the ones who end up holding the hot potatoes lose everything.

As for their reasoning, I think it’s a difference of opinion between Anet devs who decide the direction of the game itself and a vocal minority of players who are impatient and want their shinies now.

The devs don’t want you to farm the most profitable areas for 10 hrs a day, get a Legendary weapon or two, get bored and move on. It’s inevitable that a small number of players will do this, but they want the majority to be out there in the world and experience everything about the game, not just “I can make 10 gold an hour if I stand here and kill stuff.”

The conflict comes from the players who have already learned this behavior in other games and refuse to change. If you keep looking for the best farming spots, they will keep taking them away.

Essence Snow.3194:

Vayne.8563:

And if there is one single spot in the game where you can make significantly more than any other spot, for significantly less effort, it should be nerfed. That’s actually good game design, not bad game design.

CoF P1 says hello while every open world farm that provides less gets nerfed.

That’s bad design too. I never said the game didn’t have flaws.

Vayne.8563:

I didn’t say you’d get as much money, that’s putting words in my mouth.

You have a short memory. Below is your quote:

Storm in a teacup. I’m sure you can make just as much money if not more farming armored scale. The sharks are fantastic.

laokoko.7403:

Vayne.8563:

I didn’t say you’d get as much money, that’s putting words in my mouth.

You have a short memory. Below is your quote:

Storm in a teacup. I’m sure you can make just as much money if not more farming armored scale. The sharks are fantastic.

Okay, put it this way then. I’ve made personally more money in the time I was farming armored scale, as the time I was farming skelk. That is to say I received more armored scale in a shorter amount of time than I did powerful bloods (and the fangs I was getting wasnt’ enough to make up the difference).

Now, this COULD be an abberation because I don’t do it that often, but for my money, I’ve personally made more money farming the armored scales.

Is that better for you?

If I was close to a legendary and needed just a few items to finish it off, I’d gladly buy the gems and get the gold. But with the aggressive removal of any and all farming locations in this game, it’s clear that Anet doesn’t want us to have any option besides the gem store. They seem to think they can bully the population into buying gems and it just isn’t going to work. If they wanted guaranteed money they should’ve charged a sub fee. If they want us to buy gems, make the items in the gem store more attractive. Not everyone wants to wear a fuzzy pink quaggan but clearly plenty of folks on these forums are chompin at the bit for some new armor skins or some better looking weapons.

Whoever is in charge of marketing and strategy over there needs to be shown the door. If the devs want us “to play the game” then they should make more of it attractive to play. Bad planning, bad execution all around.

Apparently shorting the supply of t6 mats and letting the price drive endlessly upward is okay but giving out rares let and right and crashing the price of ectos is cool.

Were skelks an event? I know whenever I happened to pass by there and killed some skelk, there was no event. Though, I must admit, I probably killed more underwater in that area than on land.

I used to go to Southsun for a bit of a farm before the LS but I haven’t since the LS started. No skin off my nose and I’ll go back there when everyone leaves. Farmers need a place to farm though. All Anet has to do is put some spots in (they don’t even have to tell anyone!) away from events and other sorts of content so farmers can get their fix.