dragonite ore are absurd...
Noooo! I already have more of it than I want, since it can’t be sold, traded, or refined without leveling (expensively) crafting.
I don’t know why you have such a problem finding world bosses. I use the overlay and go from boss to boss to boss quite easily.
Yeah it sucks that the only way to reliably get them is to do the world events, combined with the fact that their API is broken (at least for EU)… AGAIN!
Hmm. I’ve been using http://us.gw2stuff.com/ to find events. Yeah, they aren’t happening all the time, but most times I check I can find at least one happening soonish. For instance, right now a Tequatl is about to start in 15 minutes. I’d still say that gathering 500 dragonite ore is a lot easier for players that run dungeons, than 500 Empyrial Fragments are for players that run events.
Hmm. I’ve been using http://us.gw2stuff.com/ to find events. Yeah, they aren’t happening all the time, but most times I check I can find at least one happening soonish. For instance, right now a Tequatl is about to start in 15 minutes. I’d still say that gathering 500 dragonite ore is a lot easier for players that run dungeons, than 500 Empyrial Fragments are for players that run events.
Yeah keep rubbing salt in our wounds.
The API works and has worked fine for US, but EU API is broken again.
Hmm. I’ve been using http://us.gw2stuff.com/ to find events. Yeah, they aren’t happening all the time, but most times I check I can find at least one happening soonish. For instance, right now a Tequatl is about to start in 15 minutes. I’d still say that gathering 500 dragonite ore is a lot easier for players that run dungeons, than 500 Empyrial Fragments are for players that run events.
Yeah keep rubbing salt in our wounds.
The API works and has worked fine for US, but EU API is broken again.
Ah. I didn’t know it was broken for EU. That kind of sucks.
If I didn’t have that little web app, I’d probably would rarely bother with those events.
Yeah keep rubbing salt in our wounds.
The API works and has worked fine for US, but EU API is broken again.
Are you in a guild that plays all over the map? I know our guildies announce when any event or pre-event is starting.
Yeah keep rubbing salt in our wounds.
The API works and has worked fine for US, but EU API is broken again.
Are you in a guild that plays all over the map? I know our guildies announce when any event or pre-event is starting.
Not currently. Our guild has dwindled into a few active members each night so very poor coverage. We’re talking about merging, though.
yes eu api it’s broken, btw i think ridicoulus that i have to use a web browser for know what is happen in the world they should be just add a tab on hero pannel for give us the world information….
anyway dragonite ore should be avalaible also with other stuff, not only this kind of event, i can do all temple 1 day, 2 day, 10 days then its become boring and no sense, its just pure farming and gw2 its really better then a farming game
http://guildwarstemple.com/dragontimer/
Does that one work or is it everything based off of the EU api?
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Well that one can be manually updated by website users, but I believe it also uses the EU API as a base.
I have the gw2stuff, gw2state and dragontimer sites up
when I have time to play
I also guest to 2 high population servers along with my own
hoping to get those boss events done and to get those 500 dragonite ores
so far I’ve only managed to get about 200 of them
as compared to my 1k+ bloodstones
and dungeon obtained empyreal fragments are not a problem for me
I will have the 500 I need eventually but wow…
this doesn’t take as long as the fractal backpiece but it sure feels that way
Here is a little secret. You get tons of them from WvW. Just follow the zerg and take keeps. Make sure you hit the champion keep lord for credit.
The problem for me is with my much limited hours of play per day, in order to get these ores I have to do stuff I don’t really have a high preference for. I do like occasional WvW runs and I’ll happily do world boss events, but I’ve never obsessively chased after these. These are things I do if it so coincides with me being online and not doing anything yet. When I log on, with what hours I have, im more often jumping in when a guildie is asking for dungeon runs or fractals. I enjoy dungeons, and I run them not bothering abt rewards. Thus, I barely have a 100 of these ore.
While on the subject, how many do they usually drop I just did the Frozen Maw at wayfarers, and I got FOUR dragonite ores. SERIOUSLY? or maybe because it was low level map? I think I got a lot more when i coincidentally found a small zerg that sneakily took Stonemist on WvW. And whats the best method to get them for time-constraint folks?
Here is a little secret. You get tons of them from WvW. Just follow the zerg and take keeps. Make sure you hit the champion keep lord for credit.
shame on me for staying in a weak WvW server
I totally need to either convert gold into 1800 gems or to pay X amount of real money for a transfer just so I can follow zergs and take keeps
entirely my fault and not game issues
Here is a little secret. You get tons of them from WvW. Just follow the zerg and take keeps. Make sure you hit the champion keep lord for credit.
I get tons of Empyreal Fragments from wvw, but Dragonite Ore? No.
Then again, I am on Anvil Rock (ranked last in wvw) and we don’t take keeps as often as other servers. Still, there are much more efficient methods of getting Dragonite Ore.
Here is a little secret. You get tons of them from WvW. Just follow the zerg and take keeps. Make sure you hit the champion keep lord for credit.
shame on me for staying in a weak WvW server
I totally need to either convert gold into 1800 gems or to pay X amount of real money for a transfer just so I can follow zergs and take keepsentirely my fault and not game issues
Don’t, good servers actually defend things. Back when Desolation had IRON guild I was lucky to cap a freaking camp, they had people defending everywhere.
Dragonite ore income from wvw sucks big time compared world bosses or temples. People that say otherwise either are the nightcap force of Vizunah or their matchup has some kind of silent agreement to run in circles to farm.
“You can’t have more than 10 HS decks because that would confuse people”
“30 fps is more cinematic”
Many players will already do events and get bored farming dungeons for empyreal. Many players will already do dungeons and get bored zerging down events for dragonite. Many players will struggle for some other resource whether it is gold, ectos, karma, whatever. The designed of ascended crafting seems determined to make you grind out something in GW2 that you really won’t enjoy.
I don’t know why you have such a problem finding world bosses. I use the overlay and go from boss to boss to boss quite easily.
The problem is, ever since scarlet invasion update, the boss timers on gw2stuff and dragon timer are completely off. They’re not showing correct times in 90% cases. Some days they don’t work at all. Today I’ve been falsely directed towards 5 bosses and they weren’t on at all (no, it wasn’t overflow). Only 1, was correct, karka queen for my server, and I ended up in overflow..
Hmm. I’ve been using http://us.gw2stuff.com/ to find events. Yeah, they aren’t happening all the time, but most times I check I can find at least one happening soonish. For instance, right now a Tequatl is about to start in 15 minutes. I’d still say that gathering 500 dragonite ore is a lot easier for players that run dungeons, than 500 Empyrial Fragments are for players that run events.
Yeah keep rubbing salt in our wounds.
The API works and has worked fine for US, but EU API is broken again.
Just to be pedantic. It isn’t broken again. It is still broken. Broken again would imply it was fixed between it breaking and now. That is not the case!
The issue can be partially mitigated by using a site like http://dragons.udba.org/ as well. Often times the broken timers will show that the pre and the event are active at the same time. It is harder to see that on gw2stuff.
The other thing is to do the events since completing an event can unstick its state. It won’t help you but it’ll help the next person.
Hmm. I’ve been using http://us.gw2stuff.com/ to find events. Yeah, they aren’t happening all the time, but most times I check I can find at least one happening soonish. For instance, right now a Tequatl is about to start in 15 minutes. I’d still say that gathering 500 dragonite ore is a lot easier for players that run dungeons, than 500 Empyrial Fragments are for players that run events.
There are plenty of emp fragments around that don’t involve events. Here’s a map I found (not one I made). Admittedly some are a lot easier with a thief.
Seems the way to go is WvWvW and attach to a zerg.
I have the gw2stuff, gw2state and dragontimer sites up
when I have time to playI also guest to 2 high population servers along with my own
hoping to get those boss events done and to get those 500 dragonite ores
so far I’ve only managed to get about 200 of them
as compared to my 1k+ bloodstones
and dungeon obtained empyreal fragments are not a problem for meI will have the 500 I need eventually but wow…
this doesn’t take as long as the fractal backpiece but it sure feels that way
Lol for everyone its different. I had 500+ the very first day of dragonite.
It then took me 2 days of specifically playing dungeons to get the emp frags.
Dragonite isn’t hard to get you can get it rather fast. Esp if you have multiple characters.
A server message, like with invasion, wouldn’t hurt.
Any news on that mobile phone app? Rift’s shows invasions/world events!
http://guildwarstemple.com/dragontimer/
Does that one work or is it everything based off of the EU api?
This is the one I use and I’m on NA Eredon Terrace. It’s accurate.
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Hmm. I’ve been using http://us.gw2stuff.com/ to find events. Yeah, they aren’t happening all the time, but most times I check I can find at least one happening soonish. For instance, right now a Tequatl is about to start in 15 minutes. I’d still say that gathering 500 dragonite ore is a lot easier for players that run dungeons, than 500 Empyrial Fragments are for players that run events.
There are plenty of emp fragments around that don’t involve events. Here’s a map I found (not one I made). Admittedly some are a lot easier with a thief.
Very true. And that’s a nice pic. Good find.
I get most of mine from those small world chests that you can get across multiple characters each day. Too bad for me I destroy them as I do not intend to waste any coin in crafting and have no interest in those so-called “Legendary” weapons or the New Gear Tier! aka “Ascended” weapons.
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It’s hugely annoying for WvW players that dragonite is extremely hard to get in WvW.
And WvW players are arguably those who need Ascended gear the most.
Anyway, NSP has a temple zerg every day starting at 5:00pm pacific time.
With gw2stuff i manage to get ~170 Dragonite ore in 1h. You set yourself : 1 temple a day and you get your 500 in no time (17 days).
And don’t craft it if you feel bored, because it brings nothing more, a mere 8% stat bonus, compared to exotics. Exotics are already good enough for all gw2 current content (minus fractal 50+). If you optimise your build you can win way more that 8%. (I tweaked my build and now instead of 30k 100b, i do ~45k 100b and close to 60k in perfect condition)
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Exotics are already good enough for all gw2 current content (minus fractal 50+). If you optimise your build you can win way more that 8%. (I tweaked my build and now instead of 30k 100b, i do ~45k 100b and close to 60k in perfect condition)
“Current content” should be emphasized. Future content will surely be scaled toward people having Ascended gear or else content becomes too easy. So you’d better get your Ascended gear sooner or later.
As for optimizing your gear: if you optimize your gear AND have Ascended gear, your build becomes even better — so why not do both?
Here is a little secret. You get tons of them from WvW. Just follow the zerg and take keeps. Make sure you hit the champion keep lord for credit.
This is why I have more of that ore than I need.
Linked map would be a lot better if it was fully zoomable so that you can tell where the locations are- at the moment they are blurry blobs on the map which doesn’t really tell me where the chests are.
But a good effort nonetheless, hopefully someone will improve on it when they hae run it a few times.
Many thanks.
EDIT: a lot of these are jump puzzles so if like me you don’t like them then you won’t have a happy time- in an hour I collected 4 emp frags from 4 JPs, 2 of which I loathed so much I quit.
Would be useful to indicate on the map which are JP’s so they can be avoided and which are either open, or guarded by veteran, champ, etc so people can target the ones they want (and maybe someone will come out with a complete guide to running around the maps and doing all the non-JP ones in a reasonable timescale.
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Linked map would be a lot better if it was fully zoomable so that you can tell where the locations are- at the moment they are blurry blobs on the map which doesn’t really tell me where the chests are.
But a good effort nonetheless, hopefully someone will improve on it when they hae run it a few times.
Many thanks.
EDIT: a lot of these are jump puzzles so if like me you don’t like them then you won’t have a happy time- in an hour I collected 4 emp frags from 4 JPs, 2 of which I loathed so much I quit.
Would be useful to indicate on the map which are JP’s so they can be avoided and which are either open, or guarded by veteran, champ, etc so people can target the ones they want (and maybe someone will come out with a complete guide to running around the maps and doing all the non-JP ones in a reasonable timescale.
2 ways you can zoom in on that map image:
- When you have it open in your browser, hold CTRL and scroll your mouse wheel to zoom in.
- Right-click > Save Image: Then open it in your photo viewer and zoom in.
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Get 3+ players and do events that aren’t commonly done on your server. If gw2stuff doesn’t work, then that’s :
-Mark II, which has a short chain with a short respawn
-Foulbear, which might have a long respawn but is one of the events that’s rarely done.
-Fire Shaman
-Temple of Dwayna, just don’t fail the first event, once you’re past that you can fail as much as you want
-Temple of Lyssa, just be quick to answer the defend events
-Temple of Melandru
And thanks to the new LFG tool, if you want more players, simply post in general LFG what you are doing and surely some people will come to help you. The best way to have your own little zerg is to start with Dwayna where your zerg will grow once you have to escort Malchor, then take them to Lyssa. The somewhat tricky part is taking them to Melandru if the chain has not started.
And now, with other bosses having a lot more health, it’s hard to miss the Shatterer, the Maw or the Jungle Wurm.
Dragonite isn’t hard to get you can get it rather fast. Esp if you have multiple characters.
This is exactly what I needed
to know that I could do temple of dwayna for example on different characters to get dragonite ore each time on the same day
thanks
(this is with the assumption that it works and does not get nerfed/removed)
This whole event mechanic is absurd. They made them completely invisible to users (both in timer and location), making us relying on websites to ever find them in time. Probably because they wanted it to have a “discovery” feel to them, which obviously would only work the first time and is not a suitable mechanic for an MMO.
On top of that, they decided that now we have to FARM these events they made sure to be hard to do. Like you OP, whenever I need dragonite for ascended I just hop from one point to the other, wondering why one website has timers that differ in 20 minutes from others.
And at this hour, there probably won’t be people to do them anyway. They need to let us overflow on purpose to be in an area with lots of players. Bring back the utility of districts from GW1
Let’s assume you have one character.
Acquiring 1 stack (250) of:
Bloodstone Dust – 1 hour of Champ Farm
Empyreal Fragment – 2-3 hours of Dungeons
Dragonite Ore – Doing every world boss meta possible in 24 hours, yup, you’re still short…
Doing to the 5 temples and the karka queen will yield 30 dragonite ore each, totaling 180.
Doing the 3 dragons plus the golem and fire shaman will yield about 20 more dragonite each, totaling around 100 more.
That’s 280 dragonite ore. In what should take 2-3 hours max. Just like the Empyreal Fragments.
If you have alts, you can repeat the process daily.
Bloodstone Dust – 1 hour of Champ Farm
Empyreal Fragment – 2-3 hours of Dungeons
Dragonite Ore – Doing every world boss meta possible in 24 hours, yup, you’re still short…
Indeed. And you essentially have to craft Ascended Armor in order to reasonably get 70 Agony Resistance for scale 50 Fractals. I can not bring myself to the mind numbing tedium of grinding world bosses and temple auto attack zergs, which effectively halts my progression in FotM…. This is something that I can not quite figure out.
Honestly I prefer the phone apps for it than the websites, there’s quite a few apps on android which just tracking world event bosses.
Bloodstone Dust – 1 hour of Champ Farm
Empyreal Fragment – 2-3 hours of Dungeons
Dragonite Ore – Doing every world boss meta possible in 24 hours, yup, you’re still short…Indeed. And you essentially have to craft Ascended Armor in order to reasonably get 70 Agony Resistance for scale 50 Fractals. I can not bring myself to the mind numbing tedium of grinding world bosses and temple auto attack zergs, which effectively halts my progression in FotM…. This is something that I can not quite figure out.
You need 70 AR for scale 50?
Currently playing Heart of Thorns.
Bloodstone Dust – 1 hour of Champ Farm
Empyreal Fragment – 2-3 hours of Dungeons
Dragonite Ore – Doing every world boss meta possible in 24 hours, yup, you’re still short…Indeed. And you essentially have to craft Ascended Armor in order to reasonably get 70 Agony Resistance for scale 50 Fractals. I can not bring myself to the mind numbing tedium of grinding world bosses and temple auto attack zergs, which effectively halts my progression in FotM…. This is something that I can not quite figure out.
You need 70 AR for scale 50?
to mitigate the damage
Bloodstone Dust – 1 hour of Champ Farm
Empyreal Fragment – 2-3 hours of Dungeons
Dragonite Ore – Doing every world boss meta possible in 24 hours, yup, you’re still short…Indeed. And you essentially have to craft Ascended Armor in order to reasonably get 70 Agony Resistance for scale 50 Fractals. I can not bring myself to the mind numbing tedium of grinding world bosses and temple auto attack zergs, which effectively halts my progression in FotM…. This is something that I can not quite figure out.
I find it hard to believe that doing 200 fractals to get to 50 isn’t a “tedium of grinding” when compared to world bosses needed to get armor. Unless your definition of a grind is simply progression that you simply don’t want to do. I think its fair to say if that you are to casual or unwilling to get ascended armor, that level 50 fractals probably isn’t for you.
Needing 70AR for level 50 fractal doesn’t “effectively halt” your progression in FotM because you can’t go higher than 50. And there is not a reward for level 50.
Third you can get to 70 without needing armor at all… reasonably for people that have gotten to and already beat level 50 before armor even came out.
Infused rings and back piece with +10 agony infusions and +5 utility Infusions. 45 AR
5 Utility Infusions on accessories and amulet. 15 AR
+5 Utility Infusions on weapons. +10 AR
70AR total, not a single piece of armor required.
http://xunlaiheroes.wix.com/xhsa
Bloodstone Dust – 1 hour of Champ Farm
Empyreal Fragment – 2-3 hours of Dungeons
Dragonite Ore – Doing every world boss meta possible in 24 hours, yup, you’re still short…Indeed. And you essentially have to craft Ascended Armor in order to reasonably get 70 Agony Resistance for scale 50 Fractals. I can not bring myself to the mind numbing tedium of grinding world bosses and temple auto attack zergs, which effectively halts my progression in FotM…. This is something that I can not quite figure out.
You need 70 AR for scale 50?
to mitigate the damage
Wiki said you get 1% damage with 70 AR from agony. Shouldn’t 60 AR be enough?
Currently playing Heart of Thorns.
You get agony every 10 seconds on 50
Bloodstone Dust – 1 hour of Champ Farm
Empyreal Fragment – 2-3 hours of Dungeons
Dragonite Ore – Doing every world boss meta possible in 24 hours, yup, you’re still short…Indeed. And you essentially have to craft Ascended Armor in order to reasonably get 70 Agony Resistance for scale 50 Fractals. I can not bring myself to the mind numbing tedium of grinding world bosses and temple auto attack zergs, which effectively halts my progression in FotM…. This is something that I can not quite figure out.
You need 70 AR for scale 50?
to mitigate the damage
Wiki said you get 1% damage with 70 AR from agony. Shouldn’t 60 AR be enough?
In theory, in practice though it’s not practical between the agony every 10 seconds, depending on the boss you face at the end it can mean wiping hard and alot if it’s a boss that spews out a lot of aoe agony in a tiny floor space
Sounds a lot more like Wait Wars 2
T7 mat accumulation is largely dependent on how you play. I have a 5-4-1 ratio of Bloodstone, Dragonite and Empy shards at present.
I honestly have nearly stopped dungeoning altogether – I have lots of alts and do guild activities weekly, along with frequent world bosses most of the time, and somewhat frequent WvW now.
I’m often in Orr farming for T6 mats – and very frequently catch temple events on alts.
It was a pain for me to grind out those last empyreal fragments when I was finishing up my ascended weapon crafting for the third time – even resorting to an old favorite HoTW speed run grind and alt parking at jump puzzles, I found it painfully slow to gather empy shards.
For the toast!
T7 mat accumulation is largely dependent on how you play. I have a 5-4-1 ratio of Bloodstone, Dragonite and Empy shards at present.
I honestly have nearly stopped dungeoning altogether – I have lots of alts and do guild activities weekly, along with frequent world bosses most of the time, and somewhat frequent WvW now.
I’m often in Orr farming for T6 mats – and very frequently catch temple events on alts.
It was a pain for me to grind out those last empyreal fragments when I was finishing up my ascended weapon crafting for the third time – even resorting to an old favorite HoTW speed run grind and alt parking at jump puzzles, I found it painfully slow to gather empy shards.
I don’t necessarily “grind” these mats, but rather I play for fun, and these things just keep coming. From killing Teq and the Karka Queen daily, to other World Bosses, to WvW runs, to the occasional Champ farm in Frostgorge. I used most to help level all my crafting to 500 (from 450 to 475), and I still have way too much of this stuff coming in.
While it’s a matter of “how you play” that can benefit some, I think that people (from a psychological standpoint) will assume that the drop rates are so slow because they’re so focused on it. It’s like watching water boil in a pot, or trying to measure how much weight you lost. If you look at it constantly, it will appear to take a long time. So even if you get 30 Dragonites to drop from a single chest, that still feels small when you consider how many of them you need for refinement. But once you stop looking, and just enjoy the game, you’ll actually see how fast a player can accumulate these things.
So focus more on just playing the game for fun, and you’ll end up with a boat load of loot that you never knew you had.