Guild Wars 2

Well Anet, I commend you on you timing. I was literally just in the process of getting the thirst slayer achievement when your update ensured I will now never get a completion. Barring some future event-related method of attaining a swift completion, I highly doubt that anyone, in all the days to come, will ever get this achievement. I actually thought it was kind of cool that you had to know exactly where to go and what to do to get this done. Some might have seen this as an exploit, but I saw it as savvy game playing.

The truly frustrating aspect of this, is that now the only people to have the achievement are those who got it before the update, giving them an permanent edge on points.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m all for challenges and achievements that are difficult and time-consuming to attain (eg. giant slayer), but thirst slayer is now just silly.

Not to mention that now it actually costs a fair amount of dough to complete it from what I understand.

I don’t understand… don’t you just have to drink 1000 drinks for this achivement? how is it any different then the food one?

If memory serves, it’s 10000 drinks, not 1000. Anyway, we all saw this bug fix coming; it was a blatant exploit to abuse it. For what it’s worth, I got most of my thirst slayer achievement by buying the booze with karma. That way it doesn’t cost you a dime (karma is mostly worthless anyway).

No, it’s not 1000, or even 10,000, it’s100,000 drinks. Contrary to what they said at launch, it just seems like Anet is making this game more and more of a grind, at the expense of the fun. I still think it’s the best mmo around, but things like this are just frustrating. Everyone enjoys finding the little loopholes and tricks. It’s a valid part of the game as long as it doesn’t give anyone an advantage over another player or cause imbalance.

I don’t get it. What was changed about the thirst slayer achievement?

It’s all in the patch notes. You used to be able to go to the level 8 Sylvari story quest and continuously drink a certain elxir. It took 44 hours of afk time to complete the achievement. Now imagine having to click your way through all that….

It’s only an achievement… lol. 1000 drinks is just as bad as 100000.

Everflame.1305:

No, it’s not 1000, or even 10,000, it’s100,000 drinks. Contrary to what they said at launch, it just seems like Anet is making this game more and more of a grind, at the expense of the fun. I still think it’s the best mmo around, but things like this are just frustrating. Everyone enjoys finding the little loopholes and tricks. It’s a valid part of the game as long as it doesn’t give anyone an advantage over another player or cause imbalance.

100,000 is kind of absurd with this new fix. Using the current cheapest drink on the TP it would take 290g worth of drinks to get this, in addition to the 100,000 spam clicks you’d have to do. They should reduce it down to 1000, like the food achievement.

Regardless of what any of you above posters say, clearly you never played GW1 and if you did it was not prior to the alcohol spam patch…

Silver Halliwell.4735:

Regardless of what any of you above posters say, clearly you never played GW1 and if you did it was not prior to the alcohol spam patch…

I remember the pain of the achievement in GW1…
…now THAT was a grind!

ZudetGambeous.9573:

Everflame.1305:

No, it’s not 1000, or even 10,000, it’s100,000 drinks. Contrary to what they said at launch, it just seems like Anet is making this game more and more of a grind, at the expense of the fun. I still think it’s the best mmo around, but things like this are just frustrating. Everyone enjoys finding the little loopholes and tricks. It’s a valid part of the game as long as it doesn’t give anyone an advantage over another player or cause imbalance.

100,000 is kind of absurd with this new fix. Using the current cheapest drink on the TP it would take 290g worth of drinks to get this, in addition to the 100,000 spam clicks you’d have to do. They should reduce it down to 1000, like the food achievement.

One alcohol point from merchant is 8 copper. 100000 is therefore 80g. Or 700k karma. For me the problem is the amount of mouse clicks required.

Fixing the exploit was a good thing. Exploits should always be closed when identified, and people who profited from exploits should have their rewards reset if possible.

They should also fix the clear decimal placement error that makes this achievement such miserable overkill. The problem is that two distinct flaws (exploitable drinks in a story mission and achievement requirement is 100 times higher than it should be) are being discussed as if they were one flaw.

Niila Nuppunen.9875:

One alcohol point from merchant is 8 copper. 100000 is therefore 80g. Or 700k karma. For me the problem is the amount of mouse clicks required.

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just that.

i can’t believe people even tried to get that grindy achievement through the story.
especially 700k karma is not that much and it takes long enough to do the achievement by only standing in the monastery in queesndale and leftklicking the whole time.
2 klicks to buy, 2 klicks to consume. in total 100000 klicks since each keg nets 4 points.

First, there was a total of one click involved when doing it through the story, with a lot of afk time, as I already mentioned. Second I have agree with Melchior. The real issue here is the absurd decimal placement.

LOL! Yeah, anyone who played GW1 will be VERY familiar with doing this. I have the sweet tooth, party animal and drunkard titles. Most painful of all the titles to do.
700k karma? not bad at all, heck, even 80GP is not bad compared to what we had to pay in GW1 for some of the titles.

BTW, I do agree, 100,000 is a little crazy. 10,000 was all that we needed in GW1, and that was with some drinks being worth multiple points as well.

money and karma, that are the “quick ways” to get the achievement done, and they of course cost money/currency, i thouhgt the fix would be related to the free drinks you can find “elixir of heroes”, but it was an abused mechanic that they fixed, good fixing.

on the gw1 related note, the drunkard title it was different in the begining, it was more of a grind, becuase to get the drunkard title, it wasnt with points that you acquired it, but rather on time spent with the screen being drunk like, so it wasnt 10,000 points of alcohol, but it was originally 10, 000 minutes of having the drunk screen effect.

AW Lore.5682:

money and karma, that are the “quick ways” to get the achievement done, and they of course cost money/currency, i thouhgt the fix would be related to the free drinks you can find “elixir of heroes”, but it was an abused mechanic that they fixed, good fixing.

on the gw1 related note, the drunkard title it was different in the begining, it was more of a grind, becuase to get the drunkard title, it wasnt with points that you acquired it, but rather on time spent with the screen being drunk like, so it wasnt 10,000 points of alcohol, but it was originally 10, 000 minutes of having the drunk screen effect.

Yes, in the beginning it was horrible! You had to time your drinks to get the best effect and keep it there. I tried and gave up until they made drinks spammable. You really want painful, when I got my party animal title I used mostly snowman tonics from the snow ball fights in EOTN. You would use a tonic, then have to warp to another zone, use another, warp. If you where fast, you could use 2 tonics after you zoned. Only title where I farmed 90% of what I used, with the rest being donated by guildies.

Silver Halliwell.4735:

Regardless of what any of you above posters say, clearly you never played GW1 and if you did it was not prior to the alcohol spam patch…

Fortunately I could just drink booze while running DoA with the effects turned off. I got it that way, and let me tell you how frustrating it was that my 10,000 minutes were wasted when they changed the way the booze title worked later in the game’s life.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Alcohol
Alcohol is a type of consumable that causes intoxication and counts towards progress for the Thirst Slayer achievement. The cost of alcohol is based on the number of points it provides towards Thirst Slayer. With a few exceptions, one point costs 8 or 7 . Therefore, the cost to max Thirst Slayer is 80g or 700,000karma .

Silver.8791:

Niila Nuppunen.9875:

One alcohol point from merchant is 8 copper. 100000 is therefore 80g. Or 700k karma. For me the problem is the amount of mouse clicks required.

^
just that.

i can’t believe people even tried to get that grindy achievement through the story.
especially 700k karma is not that much and it takes long enough to do the achievement by only standing in the monastery in queesndale and leftklicking the whole time.
2 klicks to buy, 2 klicks to consume. in total 100000 klicks since each keg nets 4 points.

In the personal story missions you could find these elixir bottle bundles. Skill #3 could be set to auto-attack for afk-drinking. This gained you 1 point to title per 1,5sec, no money or karma required. Setting this all up would need 2 minutes of effort.

but things like this are just frustrating. Everyone enjoys finding the little loopholes and tricks. It’s a valid part of the game as long as it doesn’t give anyone an advantage over another player or cause imbalance.

“Finding little loopholes” = the definition of exploit.

And of course if gave you an advantage (of one obtainable achievement) over other players and thus caused imbalanced.

I agree that this was an exploit and am happy to see ANet making a statement instead of leaving players in the unclear about whether it is a bannable offence or not.

I also agree with it being a stupid achievement at 100.000 drinks and as many clicks; I shan’t bother with it now.

Silver Halliwell.4735:

Regardless of what any of you above posters say, clearly you never played GW1 and if you did it was not prior to the alcohol spam patch…

The amount of title grind in GW1 makes GW2 look like a saint.

Everflame.1305:

Well Anet, I commend you on you timing. I was literally just in the process of getting the thirst slayer achievement when your update ensured I will now never get a completion. Barring some future event-related method of attaining a swift completion, I highly doubt that anyone, in all the days to come, will ever get this achievement. I actually thought it was kind of cool that you had to know exactly where to go and what to do to get this done. Some might have seen this as an exploit, but I saw it as savvy game playing.

The truly frustrating aspect of this, is that now the only people to have the achievement are those who got it before the update, giving them an permanent edge on points.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m all for challenges and achievements that are difficult and time-consuming to attain (eg. giant slayer), but thirst slayer is now just silly.

You obviously never tried to get the drinking achievement in Gw1……… 80g is NOTHING compared to what it took in Gw1

No Walking.6349:

Everflame.1305:

Well Anet, I commend you on you timing. I was literally just in the process of getting the thirst slayer achievement when your update ensured I will now never get a completion. Barring some future event-related method of attaining a swift completion, I highly doubt that anyone, in all the days to come, will ever get this achievement. I actually thought it was kind of cool that you had to know exactly where to go and what to do to get this done. Some might have seen this as an exploit, but I saw it as savvy game playing.

The truly frustrating aspect of this, is that now the only people to have the achievement are those who got it before the update, giving them an permanent edge on points.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m all for challenges and achievements that are difficult and time-consuming to attain (eg. giant slayer), but thirst slayer is now just silly.

You obviously never tried to get the drinking achievement in Gw1……… 80g is NOTHING compared to what it took in Gw1

My not-so happy memories of GW1… Yikes.

This is the one achievement I gave up on after realizing how much it costs with no actual benefit. If the alcohol actually did something more than make the screen twist for 10 seconds it might be fun to drink it a lot, even at so great a cost.

Hate to make the comparison, but WoW’s alcohol effect was awesome – it more or less properly simulated being drunk – and I constantly drank in that game because it was FUN to drink. Whoever designed GW2’s drunk effect I’m guessing has never drank a drop of alcohol in real life. There’s not any sense in even drinking it other than for the achievement, as it’s not fun in any way.

If you think this is bad, you should have been there in GW1 where the max title for drunkard was something like 100,00 minutes spent drunk (this was before they changed it to a point value like the candy and party animal titles). It was an incredible time and money sink and then you also had to make sure that you were at the correct level of drunkenness for it to count toward the title.

Edit: I think it was actually 10,000 and not 100,000 minutes but still it was quite ludicrous.

Edit #2: And I guess some posters already pointed this out. This is why I should read the whole thread before I post I suppose :P

There’s no way in hell I’d do it all at once, but over the course of time, why not? It’s not that bad to buy a bunch of liquor ocassionally and drink it.

The OP is arguing that no one will get this achievement without cheating? Maybe not in one day and maybe not all at once, but it’s not really that hard. This is the kind of achievement you do after you’ve done everything else you want, and you have less use for gold and karma.

here is the achivement with no cheating involved jus alot of KArma and tower defending. ended up taking about 14 hrs of spaming them………… only thing i am really unhappy with is no title to show.

14 hrs of nothing but clicking….hate to say this, but…“that’s just stupid”. Whoever thought of this one needs a reality check. Dumb is dumb no matter any attempts to justify it.

“Saavy gameplay”

genius…. [/sarcasm]

This achievement does need a title.

Okay, I have to admit I’m a little surprised this thread is still around. I just want to
Clarify one thing….I never once considered the story method “cheating.” I, perhaps naively, assumed that since it was still In the game seven months after launch and most players seemed to know about it, it was a viable option. Clearly I was wrong. However, this doesn’t change the fact that I think it’s a ludicrous amount of work for a little achievement that doesn’t even grant a title. Grinding just to say you’ve done something is dumb.

Everflame.1305:

Okay, I have to admit I’m a little surprised this thread is still around. I just want to
Clarify one thing….I never once considered the story method “cheating.” I, perhaps naively, assumed that since it was still In the game seven months after launch and most players seemed to know about it, it was a viable option. Clearly I was wrong. However, this doesn’t change the fact that I think it’s a ludicrous amount of work for a little achievement that doesn’t even grant a title. Grinding just to say you’ve done something is dumb.

Legendary Weapons. Just sayen :P

Everflame.1305:

Okay, I have to admit I’m a little surprised this thread is still around. I just want to
Clarify one thing….I never once considered the story method “cheating.” I, perhaps naively, assumed that since it was still In the game seven months after launch and most players seemed to know about it, it was a viable option. Clearly I was wrong. However, this doesn’t change the fact that I think it’s a ludicrous amount of work for a little achievement that doesn’t even grant a title. Grinding just to say you’ve done something is dumb.

its not supposed to be an achievement you get by grinding, its supposed to be an achievement for people who like drinking all the time, achieved over a long period of time.

take a look at the other long term achievements, do you really think there is supposed to be easy ways to do lifetime achievements?

Fact is, it was a cheat/bug/oversight, you can tell because not doing it that way takes a lot more resources. It was fixed. The achievement now takes forever and uses up resources, which is what it was meant to be.
surprised it has no title though

Seriously? First, what’s to like about “drinking all the time” in this game. There is no real effect or fun factor. Second, drinking semi-useful drinks like elixir of heroes on an occasional basis, say five times a day, would take oh…a little over 54 years :p

Third…are we really still talking about thirst slayer?

I didn’t really pay much attention to this title until about a month ago, and depending on your hardware, you can cut the time needed dramatically. I buy the alcohol with karma, but also have a mouse that has two buttons on the side I reassigned to “double click.” These are side by side, so with the mouse held down can run the top of a fingernail between the buttons. Interestingly, can drink them this way faster than buy them, but I agree the title is a bit much, as even this method is 200,000 clicks (buy & drink). Faigue is involved as well, so I just do 5-10 stacks on “karma spender” day, but this method can buy/drink a stack in about a minute or so, depending again on fatigue. Cuts the title time down to ~2 hours or so.

Everflame.1305:

No, it’s not 1000, or even 10,000, it’s100,000 drinks. Contrary to what they said at launch, it just seems like Anet is making this game more and more of a grind, at the expense of the fun. I still think it’s the best mmo around, but things like this are just frustrating. Everyone enjoys finding the little loopholes and tricks. It’s a valid part of the game as long as it doesn’t give anyone an advantage over another player or cause imbalance.

The WvW ones are worse. To get the “Yakslapper” title for example, you’d have to do nothing but hunt caravans in WvW for three years.

Carzor Stelatis.9435:

Everflame.1305:

No, it’s not 1000, or even 10,000, it’s100,000 drinks. Contrary to what they said at launch, it just seems like Anet is making this game more and more of a grind, at the expense of the fun. I still think it’s the best mmo around, but things like this are just frustrating. Everyone enjoys finding the little loopholes and tricks. It’s a valid part of the game as long as it doesn’t give anyone an advantage over another player or cause imbalance.

The WvW ones are worse. To get the “Yakslapper” title for example, you’d have to do nothing but hunt caravans in WvW for three years.

10 years actually.

I’ve played since head start. It has almost been a year and I only have around 600 yaks killed.

With that average count. It’ll only take me 1666 years to get that achievement.

Silver Halliwell.4735:

Regardless of what any of you above posters say, clearly you never played GW1 and if you did it was not prior to the alcohol spam patch…

LMAO, when they changed it to a point system and not time, I thought about all that time I took just sitting around, spamming booze every 3 min.

PS. Thank god for CoF runs, Making the booze time go faster. IT was 10k minutes, correct?

Epic thread necro, guys, but I’m going to contribute all the same!

Antara.3189:

Silver Halliwell.4735:

Regardless of what any of you above posters say, clearly you never played GW1 and if you did it was not prior to the alcohol spam patch…

LMAO, when they changed it to a point system and not time, I thought about all that time I took just sitting around, spamming booze every 3 min.

PS. Thank god for CoF runs, Making the booze time go faster. IT was 10k minutes, correct?

Yeah, it was 10k minutes. I did it during my DoASC runs. Let me tell you how amazing it was trying to tank mobs while the drunken effect was playing. It was like attempting to do something already difficult while tripping on LSD. In hindsight, I’m not even mad that they changed it, haha.

This achievement encourages underage drinking. I’m highly offended. While I’m here I’m also highly offended by the helmets that were given out during dragon bash.

Wonderful testament as to why I didn’t even bother becoming an achievement junkie. Some of these are completely absurd.