I’ve dropped into Queensdale twice in the past couple of days to charge some quartz crystals, and I’ve been disappointed by what I’ve seen. A zerg of players have been running a circuit of champions for exp/karma/loot/monthly achievements/whatever. That they’ve turned my favorite zone into an mindless assembly-line grind isn’t what bothers me, it’s how they’re treating other players who don’t know or don’t care to follow their champion-killing routine.
Both times I stopped in I saw members of the zerg shouting down, brow-beating, and being needlessly rude to those who did anything to interrupt their circuit. They’re acting as if they own the zone and anyone who doesn’t follow their rules isn’t welcome. It’s not something I expected from what has generally been a very friendly and helpful community.
Hopefully what I’ve seen has been an anomaly. If not…well, unfortunately there’s not much I can do about it other than voice my displeasure in-game and here on the forums.
If they are behaving in a reportable manner then report them.
Unfortunately Queensdale has long been the Daily/Monthly zone and there are a lot of players who pretty much live there and do nothing but grind and be kittens :/
I do agree that it’s concerning – Queensdale is going to be the zone that a lot of first time players first experience (since humans seem to be so popular -_-), so it’s not advantageous to the games community for it to be used in that way.
I’ve dropped into Queensdale twice in the past couple of days to charge some quartz crystals, and I’ve been disappointed by what I’ve seen. A zerg of players have been running a circuit of champions for exp/karma/loot/monthly achievements/whatever. That they’ve turned my favorite zone into an mindless assembly-line grind isn’t what bothers me, it’s how they’re treating other players who don’t know or don’t care to follow their champion-killing routine.
Both times I stopped in I saw members of the zerg shouting down, brow-beating, and being needlessly rude to those who did anything to interrupt their circuit. They’re acting as if they own the zone and anyone who doesn’t follow their rules isn’t welcome. It’s not something I expected from what has generally been a very friendly and helpful community.
Hopefully what I’ve seen has been an anomaly. If not…well, unfortunately there’s not much I can do about it other than voice my displeasure in-game and here on the forums.
I’m sorry but I don’t understand the problem you are having, I frequent Queensdale for dailies and assorted achievements and have run down many of the events you mentioned and have not witnessed any bad treatment between the zergs and other players. What is there to running in killing the champ that disrupts your game-play?
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I’ve dropped into Queensdale twice in the past couple of days to charge some quartz crystals, and I’ve been disappointed by what I’ve seen. A zerg of players have been running a circuit of champions for exp/karma/loot/monthly achievements/whatever. That they’ve turned my favorite zone into an mindless assembly-line grind isn’t what bothers me, it’s how they’re treating other players who don’t know or don’t care to follow their champion-killing routine.
Both times I stopped in I saw members of the zerg shouting down, brow-beating, and being needlessly rude to those who did anything to interrupt their circuit. They’re acting as if they own the zone and anyone who doesn’t follow their rules isn’t welcome. It’s not something I expected from what has generally been a very friendly and helpful community.
Hopefully what I’ve seen has been an anomaly. If not…well, unfortunately there’s not much I can do about it other than voice my displeasure in-game and here on the forums.
I’m sorry but I don’t understand the problem you are having, I frequent Queensdale for dailies and assorted achievements and have run down many of the events you mentioned and have not witnessed any bad treatment between the zergs and other players. What is there to running in killing the champ that disrupts your game-play?
It’s probably more prevalent on darkace’s server than yours but I’ve noticed it on mine as well. The generally friendly, helpful community is slowly turning into a bunch of irritable jerks in places. It’s not a lot of people just some. It may not be happening on your server at all. It’s more obvious in Queensdale but I’ve seen it Wayfarer too. Out of peak NA times generally.
That’s the gripe, as far as I can see. Mob attitude evolution.
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I haven’t seen anything out right disrespectful, but I have seen a general bad tone used whenever someone unknowingly sets of an event, or doesn’t ping that it’s started. They don’t outright tell the unknowing person that they suck kittens, but they will start yelling to everyone in map chat to not do it in general.
BTW I’m on Blackgate and Jade Quarry (I have two accounts), but I’ve mostly seen the zurg-mentality in Blackgate. More so in the past few days too.
I thought maybe it was just me, but I’ve been noticing a bit of rudeness and a zerg train recently also. Did this just start up? I tend to guest on every server, and it seems there’s a new train going on. If someone triggers/kills out of turn, you’re bound to see some rude comments in map chat :P
It’s been getting pretty crazy over on SoR, but that’s probably because we’re one of the bigger servers. Seems like I’m usually tossed into an overflow server if I happen to go to Queensdale.
TC players seem pretty nice from what I’ve observed of them in Obsidian Sanctum xD.
Players on SoS are nice as well, I’ve only ever really observed people being friendly in Queensdale.
If you had complained about trolling and prepubescent immaturity in Queensdale, I would have to agree with you. However, that was not the stated problem. In what sense do they have a routine that must be followed? Champ is up; kill champ. There’s really is nothing to follow. And, what could they possibly brow-beat you for?
Being rude to those that interrupt their circuit? What exactly is there to interrupt? Again, champ is up or ready to be up, you initiate, you kill champ. The only thing problems I’ve noticed with Queensdale is overflow and that fact that that’s where the pre-teens play. I only go there for SB or to build my block list if I feel it’s getting a bit short.
There have been a horde of people in Queensdale for months now on Gunnar’s Hold.
They are generally friendly and there are a lot of new players to balance out the 80 zerg.
So far everyone seems to be getting along, so I have not seen any of that. We are a very friendly server community.
Enter LA at your own risk though- the mapchat there can raise a few eyebrows.
If it’s queensdale, he may be talking about something like someone starting boar, and then someone else starting troll after the person just announced that they started boar, rather than just heading to boar, then doing troll together.
Meaning the people at boar will likely miss out on troll, and the peeps at troll will probably miss out on boar.
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Anyhow, It’s only natural people flock to Queensdale. It’s a superior endgame zone than Cursed Shore ever was since it has a large variety of events and beautiful looking terrain and is generally a pleasant place to be. Where else are you gonna go?
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TBH I also parked there with most of my alts just because events there pop very often, mobs are not demanding to kill and it is quite fast to finish most of the dailies there.
At least compared to Orr there is always something to do.
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I find Queensdale dreadfully boring and really dislike going there. I go only for SB, and now the stupid quartz thing, and leave.
Doing dailies is bad enough without doing them is such a boring place. I do most them in mid level maps where the nodes and drops are better and the maps are quiet. I can trigger events as I want and always npc’s around to rez. The only starter map I like going to is Wayfare.
As for the rude ones in Queensdale, there are some on Gunner’s Hold as well. Just the other week the SB oakheart pre-event started. I posted in /map that the event was up. The champ went down pretty fast. Then some kitten complained in /map that the call out for the event wasn’t fast enough. I told the idiot to move faster next time.
So now I don’t bother posting when the pre-event is up.
I like the people flocking to Queensdale on my server. For the most part, everyone is really friendly, and it’s great running into fellow guild members randomly on our way to fight a champ. I would actually like it if people were in map chat more in other areas, letting me know what’s going on.
I don’t feel any pressure to go and do any of these events if they’re up, so if I’m doing something else then I’ll ignore it. But it’s really helpful if I do want to join in. Levelling my alt is great fun now because I get to do it with a huge bunch of people who can help me out if the area I’m in is a bit over-levelled for me.
There are a few sour grapes now and again, but where lots of people congregate there will always also be those kinds of people. Generally, when that happens, people ignore them, block them or put them down a peg or two pretty fast. Maybe I’m just on a friendly server, but I’ve never seen it get nasty or unpleasant.
I’ve dropped into Queensdale twice in the past couple of days to charge some quartz crystals, and I’ve been disappointed by what I’ve seen. A zerg of players have been running a circuit of champions for exp/karma/loot/monthly achievements/whatever. That they’ve turned my favorite zone into an mindless assembly-line grind isn’t what bothers me, it’s how they’re treating other players who don’t know or don’t care to follow their champion-killing routine.
Both times I stopped in I saw members of the zerg shouting down, brow-beating, and being needlessly rude to those who did anything to interrupt their circuit. They’re acting as if they own the zone and anyone who doesn’t follow their rules isn’t welcome. It’s not something I expected from what has generally been a very friendly and helpful community.
Hopefully what I’ve seen has been an anomaly. If not…well, unfortunately there’s not much I can do about it other than voice my displeasure in-game and here on the forums.
OP did you ever do union farming? Or any type of farm in any game? Ever seen someone come and mess up your farm for no reason when they could have joined you and made more money? People don’t like kittenbags. If you mess up a farm for no visible reason then everyone is going to assume you’re a kittenbag.
OP did you ever do union farming? Or any type of farm in any game? Ever seen someone come and mess up your farm for no reason when they could have joined you and made more money? People don’t like kittenbags. If you mess up a farm for no visible reason then everyone is going to assume you’re a kittenbag.
What’s wrong with kittenbags or kitten for that matter? The game is full of overgrown kitties anyway, how are smaller kitten harmful compared to those?
On a serious note, it’s a starter area map and part of the open world. Nobody and I mean NOBODY owns any part of any map in a game. If your farm is getting kittened upside down, go find another spot or another map or ask players nicely to not screw up things. Being a kittenbag doesn’t help in dealing with kittenbags.
There are better and more profitable places to farm Champions than Queensdale… But to be fair, those places require actual cooperation rather than mindless zerging.
Then again, some people here sound like they don’t know anything besides CoF P1
I’ve dropped into Queensdale twice in the past couple of days to charge some quartz crystals, and I’ve been disappointed by what I’ve seen. A zerg of players have been running a circuit of champions for exp/karma/loot/monthly achievements/whatever. That they’ve turned my favorite zone into an mindless assembly-line grind isn’t what bothers me, it’s how they’re treating other players who don’t know or don’t care to follow their champion-killing routine.
Both times I stopped in I saw members of the zerg shouting down, brow-beating, and being needlessly rude to those who did anything to interrupt their circuit. They’re acting as if they own the zone and anyone who doesn’t follow their rules isn’t welcome. It’s not something I expected from what has generally been a very friendly and helpful community.
Hopefully what I’ve seen has been an anomaly. If not…well, unfortunately there’s not much I can do about it other than voice my displeasure in-game and here on the forums.
What server are you on? 2 people can solo champs before their zerg can even get in line of sight.
If you go to Malchor’s Leap and kill a single Spark (even by accident) you will get a very similar reaction by the Spark farmers: “Omg you killed that Spark we have a perfect loop we do every 5 minutes and kill all of them, you stole our lodestones!”
I’ve dropped into Queensdale twice in the past couple of days to charge some quartz crystals, and I’ve been disappointed by what I’ve seen. A zerg of players have been running a circuit of champions for exp/karma/loot/monthly achievements/whatever. That they’ve turned my favorite zone into an mindless assembly-line grind isn’t what bothers me, it’s how they’re treating other players who don’t know or don’t care to follow their champion-killing routine.
Both times I stopped in I saw members of the zerg shouting down, brow-beating, and being needlessly rude to those who did anything to interrupt their circuit. They’re acting as if they own the zone and anyone who doesn’t follow their rules isn’t welcome. It’s not something I expected from what has generally been a very friendly and helpful community.
Hopefully what I’ve seen has been an anomaly. If not…well, unfortunately there’s not much I can do about it other than voice my displeasure in-game and here on the forums.
What server are you on? 2 people can solo champs before their zerg can even get in line of sight.
Hmm, the OP doesn’t seem to mind the zerg so much as the attitude of the people within the zerg, who are being nasty to other people who are simply trying to play the game. The zerg are acting as if they somehow privately own this particular map, which isn’t the case. I think that is the issue the OP is raising here.
There’s two things at work here:
1/ the monthly demands 60 champions slain and Queensdale is the easiest place to farm champions.
2/ people are kittens.
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I play on SoR and never seen anything like what the op states. I often go there to do daily ect and never experienced any sort of rudeness/zone owning ect .
Mabe try another server if this is the case as op has not said what server he/she is on.
a few … do not ruin a community, those are inevitable, especially on the internet. Block annoying people, report abusive ones. And do whatever you like in the zone, you don´t have to care about their zerg schedule at all. Problem solved.
If you had complained about trolling and prepubescent immaturity in Queensdale, I would have to agree with you. However, that was not the stated problem. In what sense do they have a routine that must be followed? Champ is up; kill champ. There’s really is nothing to follow. And, what could they possibly brow-beat you for?
Being rude to those that interrupt their circuit? What exactly is there to interrupt? Again, champ is up or ready to be up, you initiate, you kill champ. The only thing problems I’ve noticed with Queensdale is overflow and that fact that that’s where the pre-teens play. I only go there for SB or to build my block list if I feel it’s getting a bit short.
Two of the champion events in Queensdale can be activated by players; the Champion Boar and the Champion Troll. The farmers always try to coincide these two events with other Champion Events, or naturally spawning champions, in order to maximize their productivity. From what I’ve seen, they try to time it so the events go in order of:
Troll then Bandit => Spider then Boar/Wasp => Oakheart
These three groups can be done in any order, depending on when they were killed, but the farmers try to time their spawns in order to get the group up in that fashion. So it isn’t that they just spawn, it’s that farmers are making it so they spawn when they want. If a player who doesn’t know, or care for that matter, they may end up getting chastised for doing their own thing.
Why do they want to kill these champions at all ? If they want to increase their monthly champs, why not simply go to Maelstrom where there are more champions on a short respawn timer and close from each others.
Unless it has been nerfed or deserted, I haven’t been there for a while.
Too much effort, I suspect. If you’re level 80 then it takes a few seconds to kill 6 champions in Queensdale, but makes for much longer in a higher level zone.
I’ve dropped into Queensdale twice in the past couple of days to charge some quartz crystals, and I’ve been disappointed by what I’ve seen. A zerg of players have been running a circuit of champions for exp/karma/loot/monthly achievements/whatever. That they’ve turned my favorite zone into an mindless assembly-line grind isn’t what bothers me, it’s how they’re treating other players who don’t know or don’t care to follow their champion-killing routine.
Both times I stopped in I saw members of the zerg shouting down, brow-beating, and being needlessly rude to those who did anything to interrupt their circuit. They’re acting as if they own the zone and anyone who doesn’t follow their rules isn’t welcome. It’s not something I expected from what has generally been a very friendly and helpful community.
Hopefully what I’ve seen has been an anomaly. If not…well, unfortunately there’s not much I can do about it other than voice my displeasure in-game and here on the forums.
I met a few two days ago….i fast show them the lay of the land when i am online.
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Why do they want to kill these champions at all ? If they want to increase their monthly champs, why not simply go to Maelstrom where there are more champions on a short respawn timer and close from each others.
Unless it has been nerfed or deserted, I haven’t been there for a while.
If I use myself as a reference, a large number of people probably don’t know much about these zones, like when events occur, how many you need etc, because when they first got to the zone it was pretty empty.
There was no one there to call events or anything, so I just did the hearts and left.
As for queens dale, I’m there for reasons other than champs, I completed the monthly a while back, I’m slowly leveling my alt there.
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Stop being a kitten about it and ignore it. You can’t do a thing about it, so just live with it or choose a race that isn’t the boring bland human race. Btw, Queensdale is the most boring zone ever.
Both times I stopped in I saw members of the zerg shouting down, brow-beating, and being needlessly rude to those who did anything to interrupt their circuit.
What do you mean by “interrupting their circuit”? Because the only thing i can think of is giving false event info in chat, which is a troll behaviour and deserves scorn. Starting the events “out of timer” is mostly impossible, because they tend to get started as soon as they are available anyway. Besides, they happen often enough that it doesn’t matter.
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In the space of about 15 seconds. On one hand what does it hurt to go with the flow and not disrupt the chain. On the other who cares what they say in chat. I know I dont. Kill it if you want to. What are they going to do? Phone your mom?
IoJ’s Queensdale is rather friendly.
Sure you have the groups that run through the champs, but also there’s plenty of folks helping out with Spider Champion and the Bandit Skillpoint.
I don’t think I’ve ever heard our folks gripe about a circuit being broke, now grumping about Troll down before they could get to it or missing Behemoth that’s different.
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IoJ’s Queensdale is rather friendly.
Sure you have the groups that run through the champs, but also there’s plenty of folks helping out with Spider Champion and the Bandit Skillpoint.
I don’t think I’ve ever heard our folks gripe about a circuit being broke, now grumping about Troll down before they could get to it or missing Behemoth that’s different.
Nah, there’s been some harsh words recently. Not so much about a circuit being interfered with but other Champ event-related things. Usually from the same people though.
I’d forgotten about the monthly Champs. I expect things will quiet down again when its all over.
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Problem is that as soon as you set foot outside the low level zones, you end up being spammed by ludicrous amounts of crowd control nonsense by mobs.
You hit them with a crowd control skill, they get immunity for a while., We don’t. We can be chain held/stunned/knocked up, down and all over the place by every trash mob we come across.
That’s fine for bosses. It’s nothing but ridiculous for trash mobs to get those sorts of powers. There’s a reason other games don’t do it.
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It’s anet’s own fault for making Queensdale the easymode zone :p
Go to any of the other starter zones (especially Ashford) and you find the enemies way tougher, events more remote, demanding and longer. When you’re given a daily to kill a mix of champs, veterans, quests or krytan stuff – queensdale is the fastest place to cross off your list by a huge margin.
(Personally I just do a few rounds of sPvP for my daily, but, many if not most are allergic to getting stabbed in the face :p)
, I’ve only ever really observed people being friendly in Queensdale.
