Guild Wars 2

Balkanwarrior.5132:

OP you have a problem with people playing the game in your ’’favorite’’ area? Boy do I have some rough news for you about this thing called life….

if you want to chastise OP you may want to reread what he actually wrote as you are apparently not getting what this thread is all about… like AT ALL.

I have not experienced this on TC’s Queensdale… The only issue I have seen brought up was the opposite: lower level players asking level 80s why they were in a starting zone.

Use creative retorts without swearing on the people who shout at you in map chat regarding champion boss zergs.

Algreg.3629:

Balkanwarrior.5132:

OP you have a problem with people playing the game in your ’’favorite’’ area? Boy do I have some rough news for you about this thing called life….

if you want to chastise OP you may want to reread what he actually wrote as you are apparently not getting what this thread is all about… like AT ALL.

I did get it. If a persons way of playing is berating other players while taking over a noob zone, OP can just block and move on if it bothers them that much. If OP wants to stand up to said rude players and form the white knight defense force he can do that too. Instead he’s come here to inform us about people being rude on the internet

I actually like that the zone is active. Whether or not they want to jump from Champion to Champion is their prerogative. As someone leveling up, odds are I’m working on every other event chain outside of those few that are camped. It does not affect me in the slightest.

Would OP prefer the zone be a desolate wasteland like some of the other zones are?

Zones are too empty waaaaa
Zones are too full waaaaa

/block
/continuewhatyouweredoing.

When a single champion event counts for 3 out of the 4 monthlies, of course the players will swarm the zone where a champion is going to pop once every minute or so… and naturally jerkwads are amoung them.

I’d just ignore them and enjoy the populated zone while it lasts. Because you KNOW the respawn timers on those events will be doubled/tripled in light of this.

So … get a small group together and go set off events randomly across the map?
If they are going to be kittens about it, make them miserable.

FlamingFoxx.1305:

If they are behaving in a reportable manner then report them.
Unfortunately Queensdale has long been the Daily/Monthly zone and there are a lot of players who pretty much live there and do nothing but grind and be kittens :/
I do agree that it’s concerning – Queensdale is going to be the zone that a lot of first time players first experience (since humans seem to be so popular -_-), so it’s not advantageous to the games community for it to be used in that way.

they’ll get to see lots of interaction of the map chat and lots of player activity. How is harmful exactly?

Raine.1394:

If you had complained about trolling and prepubescent immaturity in Queensdale, I would have to agree with you. However, that was not the stated problem. In what sense do they have a routine that must be followed? Champ is up; kill champ. There’s really is nothing to follow. And, what could they possibly brow-beat you for?

Being rude to those that interrupt their circuit? What exactly is there to interrupt? Again, champ is up or ready to be up, you initiate, you kill champ. The only thing problems I’ve noticed with Queensdale is overflow and that fact that that’s where the pre-teens play. I only go there for SB or to build my block list if I feel it’s getting a bit short.

It’s like this: the zerg runs from troll to bandit to wasp to boar to oak (they keep saying spider, but I’m not aware of a champion spider in Queensdale) then repeats the cycle. I guess the respwan timers work out so they can do this with no (or nearly no) downtime. But if they’re at the troll and someone pops and/or kills the boar, then their circuit is disrupted; the respawn timers are off if they skip it or they have to wait around for it to respawn.

When this happens members of the zerg have been very rude to whomever pops the event. Where a simple explanation of things to the “offending” party would have sufficed, or even letting bygones be bygones (no one has cost you actual money here), they respond like a bunch of petulant children. This is made worse when the mob-mentality kicks in and they start to feed off one another.

TriggerSad.2597:

I haven’t seen anything out right disrespectful, but I have seen a general bad tone used whenever someone unknowingly sets of an event, or doesn’t ping that it’s started. They don’t outright tell the unknowing person that they suck kittens, but they will start yelling to everyone in map chat to not do it in general.

BTW I’m on Blackgate and Jade Quarry (I have two accounts), but I’ve mostly seen the zurg-mentality in Blackgate. More so in the past few days too.

Blackgate is my server, and I’ve seen my fellow server-members do everything from espouse letting whomever popped the troll die “to teach them a lesson” to…well, I’ll save myself the potential infraction and just leave it to your imaginations. Like I said, hopefully what I’ve seen the last few days isn’t the norm. But I fear my hopes are for naught.

data.4093:

OP did you ever do union farming? Or any type of farm in any game? Ever seen someone come and mess up your farm for no reason when they could have joined you and made more money? People don’t like kittenbags. If you mess up a farm for no visible reason then everyone is going to assume you’re a kittenbag.

There’s a pretty glaring flaw in your logic. You say they’re messing it up “for no reason”. Is it not plausible they simply didn’t know people were farming the events in a particular order? Is it not plausible they’re new players or new to the zone and don’t even know picking up the troll stone spawns a champion? Is it not plausible they feel the zerg doesn’t own the map and thus they can kill whatever mob or complete whatever event whenever they feel so inclined?

maddoctor.2738:

If you go to Malchor’s Leap and kill a single Spark (even by accident) you will get a very similar reaction by the Spark farmers: “Omg you killed that Spark we have a perfect loop we do every 5 minutes and kill all of them, you stole our lodestones!”

One of the problems with farming….

As long as they 1) explain it politely, and 2) accept that others are not required to acquiesce then I don’t mind people running loops or asking those who interferer to join work with them rather than against.

CrossedHorse.4261:

Hmm, the OP doesn’t seem to mind the zerg so much as the attitude of the people within the zerg, who are being nasty to other people who are simply trying to play the game. The zerg are acting as if they somehow privately own this particular map, which isn’t the case. I think that is the issue the OP is raising here.

Precisely my complaint. People are free to play the game how they want. That goes for the zerg as well as it does the people who disrupt the zerg’s circuits. It’s the attitude displayed by those in the zerg toward those who disrupt their circuit I have a problem with.

Algreg.3629:

a few … do not ruin a community, those are inevitable, especially on the internet. Block annoying people, report abusive ones. And do whatever you like in the zone, you don´t have to care about their zerg schedule at all. Problem solved.

It’s not as easy as that. Like I said, I haven’t been killing champions, so circuit disruptions don’t directly affect me one way or the other. But if we’ve got a new player stepping into Queensdale for the first time and the people on my server give them the (what I feel is false) impression that this game is populated by jerks they might not be inclined to stick around very long.

Vol.5241:

Queensdale farming is about getting exp I presume. The champ events respawn so often that you can get good exp/karma for running the chains.

OP I think the reason why people may be mad at you is because you started a champ and didn’t bother to notify people in map chat.

In the inevitable back-and-forth that usually follows a circuit interruption I’ve seen it said by multiple people that the chain is about leveling alts quickly because “I hate grinding”.

And to clarify, I never touched a champion or started an event. I was there solely for quartz crystals and I killed 40 nearby centaur last night for the daily. I was a neutral bystander in both cases until after the “offense” of disrupting a circuit was committed, though I did admonish those being rude/disrespectful after the fact. I took a large dose of backlash for that, but I’m a big boy and childish insults don’t bother me. But the behavior being displayed towards others does; I’d rather the community on my server be a friendly one than a nasty one.

Balkanwarrior.5132:

OP you have a problem with people playing the game in your ’’favorite’’ area? Boy do I have some rough news for you about this thing called life….

I can’t help but feel that you didn’t read my post very closely.

Draknar.5748:

I actually like that the zone is active. Whether or not they want to jump from Champion to Champion is their prerogative. As someone leveling up, odds are I’m working on every other event chain outside of those few that are camped. It does not affect me in the slightest.

Would OP prefer the zone be a desolate wasteland like some of the other zones are?

Zones are too empty waaaaa
Zones are too full waaaaa

I think you missed the point of my post. Hint: I’m not complaining about the number of players in Queensdale.

I definitely agree. I went to Queensdale the other day and started an event, and it was a very small event, but I can’t remember which one. I had just finished the event when a SWARM of players come crawling over the edge of a hill and almost simultaneously, I got about 60 whispers insulting me for ruining their event circuit. I was so confused for a second until I realized that they were running the events one right after the other, and I had just interrupted their run of these events and now they’d have to move on to a different event. This is on Gate of Madness, by the way. This is not how I wanted Queensdale to turn out at all, especially when new players start there. What are new players going to think about GW2 when players shout at them for starting a simple event? You should be able to start an event alone if you want to, shouting that an event has started is just a courtesy given out okittendness. Now every time I go to Queensdale, I start every event on my own without giving that courtesy because these kittens decided it was okay to insult and belittle. Screw them, when they swarm over the hill again, I’ll be smiling standing over the body of the champion troll or the bodies of multiple bandits and my smile will grow when they fume and insult me. I know I’m just adding to the hurt they’re already inflicting on GW2, but I really can’t do anything to stop their zergs anyway.

Op- I am really sorry to hear this and i would be upset too if I had ever seen it.

All I can say is I have never run into anything like that on GH.
Queensdale is very busy and of course just about everyone hangs out there.
It is a very social place.

I have been there on all my characters and am running a baby thief through atm.
i have done escort quests on my 80’s with a bunch of lvl6-7
I have done Eda’s Orchard with my main.

I have killed the Spider Queen (on the hill behind the hunting lodge) with my baby thief and a bunch of 80’s that kept picking me up off the floor.

People call the champs- but they also call the dam, the poisoned vineyard and just about everything else.

Honestly if I had joined the game today on my server I would think it is awesome and people do
I see it everyday, new players are blown away by the experience.

The rudeness is unacceptable, but It’s pretty cool that queensdale is populated on your sever. Players can be so ingenious sometimes. They are adapting to the bad game design and finding ways to make the play (and loot) more fun.

The maps are by and large empty so they consolidated in a starter area and maximize the content. It sure as heck beats being in Orr where the scenery is dreary and filled with annoying and boring risen.

It sounds like a welcomed change.

Lol, I should try to start a character that gets to 80 exclusively in Queensdale with an occasional mists trip. Sadly time gate. >.>

Ouch, that indeed sounds bad. Haven’t seen anything like that on gandara. Here it’s more unorganized event farming chaos, no big zergs that follow a constant route but rather many individual people that congregate to all announced events. People triggering events on their own are common, so any more organized timetables wouldn’t work anyway.

Mind you, such behaviour as you describe seems something that might be reportable. I’d say some 72hour bans would do some such people good.

I support people playing the way they want. This would include players trying to maximize their time in Queensdale. However, it would also include those players who may interrupt the efficiency of others’ plans. By all means, if players want to organize a champion zerg, go for it. However, if others choose to play differently, that’s up to them. Being rude in such a circumstance is a symptom of players thinking they have more right to open world content than others. This is nothing short of entitlement.

People want lower areas populated to not seem dead.
Lower areas get populated.
People complain about the population now cause of things that have always been on th internet and mmos.

/block, /ignore, dont pay attention, just play and go about your business.

Galtrix.7369:

I definitely agree. I went to Queensdale the other day and started an event, and it was a very small event, but I can’t remember which one. I had just finished the event when a SWARM of players come crawling over the edge of a hill and almost simultaneously, I got about 60 whispers insulting me for ruining their event circuit. I was so confused for a second until I realized that they were running the events one right after the other, and I had just interrupted their run of these events and now they’d have to move on to a different event. This is on Gate of Madness, by the way. This is not how I wanted Queensdale to turn out at all, especially when new players start there. What are new players going to think about GW2 when players shout at them for starting a simple event? You should be able to start an event alone if you want to, shouting that an event has started is just a courtesy given out okittendness. Now every time I go to Queensdale, I start every event on my own without giving that courtesy because these kittens decided it was okay to insult and belittle. Screw them, when they swarm over the hill again, I’ll be smiling standing over the body of the champion troll or the bodies of multiple bandits and my smile will grow when they fume and insult me. I know I’m just adding to the hurt they’re already inflicting on GW2, but I really can’t do anything to stop their zergs anyway.

Weird, I hang out in Queensdale in the evenings when I need a champ or vets or group events. I have never been sent a whisper and trigger my own events all the time. When someone pings a champ, I head over and usually make it in time. But I do my own events in the mean time.

Galtrix.7369:

I definitely agree. I went to Queensdale the other day and started an event, and it was a very small event, but I can’t remember which one. I had just finished the event when a SWARM of players come crawling over the edge of a hill and almost simultaneously, I got about 60 whispers insulting me for ruining their event circuit. I was so confused for a second until I realized that they were running the events one right after the other, and I had just interrupted their run of these events and now they’d have to move on to a different event. This is on Gate of Madness, by the way. This is not how I wanted Queensdale to turn out at all, especially when new players start there. What are new players going to think about GW2 when players shout at them for starting a simple event? You should be able to start an event alone if you want to, shouting that an event has started is just a courtesy given out okittendness. Now every time I go to Queensdale, I start every event on my own without giving that courtesy because these kittens decided it was okay to insult and belittle. Screw them, when they swarm over the hill again, I’ll be smiling standing over the body of the champion troll or the bodies of multiple bandits and my smile will grow when they fume and insult me. I know I’m just adding to the hurt they’re already inflicting on GW2, but I really can’t do anything to stop their zergs anyway.

That is bullkitten that you get grief from the mindless, moronic Zerg for starting an event. It’s a free server, a free zone. You should be able to do whatever activities that please you, particularly in a low-level PvE zone.

I believe this a sever issue. to a degree my server has been doing this for sometime but not to the extent of rudeness taking place

Anet killed Cursed Shore . Events over there are taking too much time, now , compared from before . So , people are finding faster ways to get their monthlies done and the fastest way is by zerging Queensdale .

Well from all the attention this is generating, those zergs and myself will soon log into the game go to queensdale and find everything nerfed, after all that has been ANETs M.O. for the game.

I doubt it. Nothing’s broken, it’s just jerks not sharing. Probably will be forgotten next month, I hope, and everyone can go back to normal. Though I don’t want to trivialise the problems people are having now with this sort of attitude.

I still don’t know why people farm the events there, rather than just do some quick dungeons. Sure, the amount of champions you slay might be a little bit higher, but the coin, experience, karma and loot from dungeons compensates more than enough.

Or has the zerg degenerated so much they can’t even farm simple dungeons?

Rammie.2843:

I still don’t know why people farm the events there, rather than just do some quick dungeons. Sure, the amount of champions you slay might be a little bit higher, but the coin, experience, karma and loot from dungeons compensates more than enough.

Or has the zerg degenerated so much they can’t even farm simple dungeons?

Some people don’t like to do dungeons

Rammie.2843:

I still don’t know why people farm the events there, rather than just do some quick dungeons. Sure, the amount of champions you slay might be a little bit higher, but the coin, experience, karma and loot from dungeons compensates more than enough.

Or has the zerg degenerated so much they can’t even farm simple dungeons?

The Zergs are burning down all the dailies in that area which can’t be done in dungeons, it’s not about the coin/rewards received.

lol, Queensdale is just a microcosm for the rest of the game.

Shatterer up>kill it>port to Claw>kill it>port to Fire elem>kill it>port to Teq>kill it>port to SB>kill it>lull in timers>run CoF>add in whichever event you like ad nauseum

This isn’t new.

Morrigan.2809:

All I can say is I have never run into anything like that on GH.

I am on GH as well, and I must play at different times than you because my recent experience on GH is not all bunnies and flowers like you make it out to be.

Yes, it is probably better than some other servers, but over the past few months I have noticed more and more rude players and behaviour. Perhaps they are guesting from other servers, so they don’t give a kitten what they do while on GH. Who knows?

darkace.8925:

In the inevitable back-and-forth that usually follows a circuit interruption I’ve seen it said by multiple people that the chain is about leveling alts quickly because “I hate grinding”.

This made me laugh. I do run round with the zerg on my server a bit, and while it is fun for a while and is a good way to level alts, it doesn’t exactly level them quickly. And once you’ve done each event a couple of times the boredom quickly sets in. Funny how they say they hate grinding yet will run this same circle again and again and again … seems to me there are many, many more interesting ways to level in this game. But what do I know? Each to their own.

Morrigan.2809:

Rammie.2843:

I still don’t know why people farm the events there, rather than just do some quick dungeons. Sure, the amount of champions you slay might be a little bit higher, but the coin, experience, karma and loot from dungeons compensates more than enough.

Or has the zerg degenerated so much they can’t even farm simple dungeons?

Some people don’t like to do dungeons

Fair point.

Im Mudbone.1437:

Rammie.2843:

I still don’t know why people farm the events there, rather than just do some quick dungeons. Sure, the amount of champions you slay might be a little bit higher, but the coin, experience, karma and loot from dungeons compensates more than enough.

Or has the zerg degenerated so much they can’t even farm simple dungeons?

The Zergs are burning down all the dailies in that area which can’t be done in dungeons, it’s not about the coin/rewards received.

No daily requires zergs. Aquatic kills? Just take the north exit from LA. Events? Catch one of the meta chains. Now if you mean the monthlies the zerg seems to be after, I have just logged in to check them.

Champions => Dungeons
Dungeon Completer => Dungeons
Events => Dungeons
Skill points => Dungeons
Salvager => Dungeons (tons of blues)
Group Events => Just check for meta events

Dungeons seem superior to me for the monthly…

Rammie.2843:

Morrigan.2809:

Rammie.2843:

I still don’t know why people farm the events there, rather than just do some quick dungeons. Sure, the amount of champions you slay might be a little bit higher, but the coin, experience, karma and loot from dungeons compensates more than enough.

Or has the zerg degenerated so much they can’t even farm simple dungeons?

Some people don’t like to do dungeons

Fair point.

Im Mudbone.1437:

Rammie.2843:

I still don’t know why people farm the events there, rather than just do some quick dungeons. Sure, the amount of champions you slay might be a little bit higher, but the coin, experience, karma and loot from dungeons compensates more than enough.

Or has the zerg degenerated so much they can’t even farm simple dungeons?

The Zergs are burning down all the dailies in that area which can’t be done in dungeons, it’s not about the coin/rewards received.

No daily requires zergs. Aquatic kills? Just take the north exit from LA. Events? Catch one of the meta chains. Now if you mean the monthlies the zerg seems to be after, I have just logged in to check them.

Champions => Dungeons
Dungeon Completer => Dungeons
Events => Dungeons
Skill points => Dungeons
Salvager => Dungeons (tons of blues)
Group Events => Just check for meta events

Dungeons seem superior to me for the monthly…

They probably are, but as someone said, not all people want to run dungeons, some are levelling alts and might not be able to get into a dungeon with one yet, and also Queensdale farming is just much, much easier.

Though tbh, I’ve got all my champs done in the new Zephyrite zone this time round – that place is a godsend for champs. They’re all over the place if enough people are around (and, being a new zone, there are always enough people around). Just running up and down the path a couple of times got me about 14 champs the other day as every event spawned them and two of them spawned at least 2.

bri.2359:

Morrigan.2809:

All I can say is I have never run into anything like that on GH.

I am on GH as well, and I must play at different times than you because my recent experience on GH is not all bunnies and flowers like you make it out to be.

Yes, it is probably better than some other servers, but over the past few months I have noticed more and more rude players and behaviour. Perhaps they are guesting from other servers, so they don’t give a kitten what they do while on GH. Who knows?

Yes I saw your earlier post and I was quite surprised
I am not really an idealist and my play experience has really been that good.

I play at various times- sometimes during the day, sometimes prime time and sometimes late at might.
I am at GMT +2

The only time I saw some mild rudeness was just after the intro of the chests in jan- but that stopped pretty quickly.
Generally if someone is being a jerk they get shut down almost instantly- nothing bad or rude though, usually a :P in map suffices.
I did see an amazing amount of raging at the Karka queen event- but even that got amicably resolved in the end.

I have no idea if it is players guesting or not but the basic server pop seems fairly mature, mostly due to the presence of guilds like MARA who recruit mature players only.
It was one of the reasons I chose GH during the Betas because I figured that an older server pop might have less nonsense.

CrossedHorse.4261:

Rammie.2843:

Morrigan.2809:

Rammie.2843:

I still don’t know why people farm the events there, rather than just do some quick dungeons. Sure, the amount of champions you slay might be a little bit higher, but the coin, experience, karma and loot from dungeons compensates more than enough.

Or has the zerg degenerated so much they can’t even farm simple dungeons?

Some people don’t like to do dungeons

Fair point.

Im Mudbone.1437:

Rammie.2843:

I still don’t know why people farm the events there, rather than just do some quick dungeons. Sure, the amount of champions you slay might be a little bit higher, but the coin, experience, karma and loot from dungeons compensates more than enough.

Or has the zerg degenerated so much they can’t even farm simple dungeons?

The Zergs are burning down all the dailies in that area which can’t be done in dungeons, it’s not about the coin/rewards received.

No daily requires zergs. Aquatic kills? Just take the north exit from LA. Events? Catch one of the meta chains. Now if you mean the monthlies the zerg seems to be after, I have just logged in to check them.

Champions => Dungeons
Dungeon Completer => Dungeons
Events => Dungeons
Skill points => Dungeons
Salvager => Dungeons (tons of blues)
Group Events => Just check for meta events

Dungeons seem superior to me for the monthly…

They probably are, but as someone said, not all people want to run dungeons, some are levelling alts and might not be able to get into a dungeon with one yet, and also Queensdale farming is just much, much easier.

Though tbh, I’ve got all my champs done in the new Zephyrite zone this time round – that place is a godsend for champs. They’re all over the place if enough people are around (and, being a new zone, there are always enough people around). Just running up and down the path a couple of times got me about 14 champs the other day as every event spawned them and two of them spawned at least 2.

Indeed, especially on the launch day it was champions galore. But at that time I had finished my monthly for almost 2 weeks already :P. But going back to dungeons, take Twilight Arbor for example, level 55 and lower levels could definitely be carried through it. Farm Up and FW/FW at least once a day and that’s 4 champs. Good exp, some tokens for when your toon is grown up (and otherwise to exchange for Forgefood/salvage for ectos). Good exp for finishing and lots for kills. And the silver is lovely too.

The downside is that not everybody is as easygoing with group compositions as me. But still, it sounds more fun than zerging the landscape! :P

IT’S BOAR TIME:

Rammie.2843:

CrossedHorse.4261:

Rammie.2843:

Morrigan.2809:

Rammie.2843:

I still don’t know why people farm the events there, rather than just do some quick dungeons. Sure, the amount of champions you slay might be a little bit higher, but the coin, experience, karma and loot from dungeons compensates more than enough.

Or has the zerg degenerated so much they can’t even farm simple dungeons?

Some people don’t like to do dungeons

Fair point.

Im Mudbone.1437:

Rammie.2843:

I still don’t know why people farm the events there, rather than just do some quick dungeons. Sure, the amount of champions you slay might be a little bit higher, but the coin, experience, karma and loot from dungeons compensates more than enough.

Or has the zerg degenerated so much they can’t even farm simple dungeons?

The Zergs are burning down all the dailies in that area which can’t be done in dungeons, it’s not about the coin/rewards received.

No daily requires zergs. Aquatic kills? Just take the north exit from LA. Events? Catch one of the meta chains. Now if you mean the monthlies the zerg seems to be after, I have just logged in to check them.

Champions => Dungeons
Dungeon Completer => Dungeons
Events => Dungeons
Skill points => Dungeons
Salvager => Dungeons (tons of blues)
Group Events => Just check for meta events

Dungeons seem superior to me for the monthly…

They probably are, but as someone said, not all people want to run dungeons, some are levelling alts and might not be able to get into a dungeon with one yet, and also Queensdale farming is just much, much easier.

Though tbh, I’ve got all my champs done in the new Zephyrite zone this time round – that place is a godsend for champs. They’re all over the place if enough people are around (and, being a new zone, there are always enough people around). Just running up and down the path a couple of times got me about 14 champs the other day as every event spawned them and two of them spawned at least 2.

Indeed, especially on the launch day it was champions galore. But at that time I had finished my monthly for almost 2 weeks already :P. But going back to dungeons, take Twilight Arbor for example, level 55 and lower levels could definitely be carried through it. Farm Up and FW/FW at least once a day and that’s 4 champs. Good exp, some tokens for when your toon is grown up (and otherwise to exchange for Forgefood/salvage for ectos). Good exp for finishing and lots for kills. And the silver is lovely too.

The downside is that not everybody is as easygoing with group compositions as me. But still, it sounds more fun than zerging the landscape! :P

Without a doubt. But as you said, not everyone is easygoing with group compositions. The zerging is fine with me provided people keep it clean and realise other people have just as much right to play their way as everyone else.

Morrigan.2809:

I play at various times- sometimes during the day, sometimes prime time and sometimes late at might.
I am at GMT +2

I pretty much follow the prime time slots, so it is evenings and weekends for me CET zone.

Morrigan.2809:

I have no idea if it is players guesting or not but the basic server pop seems fairly mature, mostly due to the presence of guilds like MARA who recruit mature players only.
It was one of the reasons I chose GH during the Betas because I figured that an older server pop might have less nonsense.

Lol! I was in MARA for awhile, and no, they recruit any age, despite what it says on the tin. As for more mature, less nonsense, this was definitely not the case with MARA and one of the reasons I left that guild.

I can deal with juvenile humour, and I can put up with the endless stupid questions from players to lazy to search the wiki. It is more the rudeness and snarkyness you get with experienced players that bothers me.

darkace.8925:

It’s like this: the zerg runs from troll to bandit to wasp to boar to oak (they keep saying spider, but I’m not aware of a champion spider in Queensdale)

The spider is up on the hill behind the hunting lodge, just north of the Beetledun Waterworks. It’s quite close to the boar which is why it’s usually included in the run.

Just to answering the OP: Absolute nothing!! Ppl there are just trying to play the game as they want/like, nothing more!

Seriously…some players must try asap to get a life, or to just focus harder on what they are doing in the game, and try to get some fun with it!!!Instead to be annoyed with this kind of “issues”!!

- “Live and let live” maybe?!?!

bri.2359:

Morrigan.2809:

I play at various times- sometimes during the day, sometimes prime time and sometimes late at might.
I am at GMT +2

I pretty much follow the prime time slots, so it is evenings and weekends for me CET zone.

Morrigan.2809:

I have no idea if it is players guesting or not but the basic server pop seems fairly mature, mostly due to the presence of guilds like MARA who recruit mature players only.
It was one of the reasons I chose GH during the Betas because I figured that an older server pop might have less nonsense.

Lol! I was in MARA for awhile, and no, they recruit any age, despite what it says on the tin. As for more mature, less nonsense, this was definitely not the case with MARA and one of the reasons I left that guild.

I can deal with juvenile humour, and I can put up with the endless stupid questions from players to lazy to search the wiki. It is more the rudeness and snarkyness you get with experienced players that bothers me.

That is odd- I was in MARA too at launch and then they definitely had an over 30 policy- the reason I left was because I started my own guild with a bunch of friends who did not make the age requirement.
I never even looked at Guild chat so I have no idea how they behaved.

It is strange to me that we have such different experiences on the same server- may be I am more easy going than I thought

The only time I felt I had to say something about bad behavior was at the recent Karka Queen and that was pretty bad but it was also just one person freaking his pip because people didn’t want to do what he told them.

Round about January there were also a few cases where people would give wrong WP to events- so I just linked the correct one.
Same with some smart kitten giving new players wrong info for kicks- I just whisper the right answer.

What I do see in Queensdale regularly though is people calling events without linking the WP- “like you have to be in the know”, that is simply solved by just linking it myself, even if i’m doing something else.
I spend quite a bit of time explaining how events can be set off and how prevents work to new players

CrossedHorse.4261:

darkace.8925:

In the inevitable back-and-forth that usually follows a circuit interruption I’ve seen it said by multiple people that the chain is about leveling alts quickly because “I hate grinding”.

This made me laugh. I do run round with the zerg on my server a bit, and while it is fun for a while and is a good way to level alts, it doesn’t exactly level them quickly. And once you’ve done each event a couple of times the boredom quickly sets in. Funny how they say they hate grinding yet will run this same circle again and again and again … seems to me there are many, many more interesting ways to level in this game. But what do I know? Each to their own.

I don’t think it’s about the time it takes, it’s just the fact that you’re always around a lot of people which is what makes it better, compared to the other option of running through empty zones doing hearts, and the occasional DE when you see it.

Lambent.6375:

CrossedHorse.4261:

darkace.8925:

In the inevitable back-and-forth that usually follows a circuit interruption I’ve seen it said by multiple people that the chain is about leveling alts quickly because “I hate grinding”.

This made me laugh. I do run round with the zerg on my server a bit, and while it is fun for a while and is a good way to level alts, it doesn’t exactly level them quickly. And once you’ve done each event a couple of times the boredom quickly sets in. Funny how they say they hate grinding yet will run this same circle again and again and again … seems to me there are many, many more interesting ways to level in this game. But what do I know? Each to their own.

I don’t think it’s about the time it takes, it’s just the fact that you’re always around a lot of people which is what makes it better, compared to the other option of running through empty zones doing hearts, and the occasional DE when you see it.

Fair point.

I did head over to Kessex once while this was going on, saw a load of champs were up there and came back to Queensdale and asked if anyone wanted to run a circuit in Kessex … no answer. ONE person said that they would come “If I couldn’t do it on my own”. Which was an interesting answer, since my question related to change of scenery and slightly more challenge, rather than a question of ability.

I don’t think it’s the people so much as the ease, honestly. The people are a bonus, but it’s only fun if you’re very low levelled (if you have the time to do significant damage, which, for some is difficult when there are too many level 80s in the crowd).

Threads like this are why no one can have anything nice. There are players who like to maximize their time and rewards. To them, the story means nothing and dungeons mean nothing. To them, things like the “Plinx Farm” were the most fun way to play.

Then someone complained, just like this. No more plinx farm.

Why did they complain? Who knows. Maybe because ruining the gameplay of others is how they get their jollies. Or maybe, like a small child, everyone must play their way or no way at all. So it’s gone.

And now, they have Queensdale. They run their little circuit and it DOESN’T AFFECT YOU at all, and yet here is this thread. Right here, this thread. And the purpose of this thread? “They don’t play Guild Wars 2 in a way that I approve of, so I think it should be stopped.”.

:-\

How much of the thread did you read, Tolmos?

Tolmos.8395:

Threads like this are why no one can have anything nice. There are players who like to maximize their time and rewards. To them, the story means nothing and dungeons mean nothing. To them, things like the “Plinx Farm” were the most fun way to play.

Then someone complained, just like this. No more plinx farm.

Why did they complain? Who knows. Maybe because ruining the gameplay of others is how they get their jollies. Or maybe, like a small child, everyone must play their way or no way at all. So it’s gone.

And now, they have Queensdale. They run their little circuit and it DOESN’T AFFECT YOU at all, and yet here is this thread. Right here, this thread. And the purpose of this thread? “They don’t play Guild Wars 2 in a way that I approve of, so I think it should be stopped.”.

:-\

You missed this part in the OP:

That they’ve turned my favorite zone into an mindless assembly-line grind isn’t what bothers me, it’s how they’re treating other players who don’t know or don’t care to follow their champion-killing routine.

Morrigan.2809:

That is odd- I was in MARA too at launch and then they definitely had an over 30 policy- the reason I left was because I started my own guild with a bunch of friends who did not make the age requirement.
I never even looked at Guild chat so I have no idea how they behaved.

I was in MARA (Legacy) from end of Nov to mid March, During that time I remember the guild bosses announcing some new members who were under the age restrictions. So, if they told you that you could not bring in your friends because of their ages, that was BS.

I don’t want to de-rail the thread, so if you want to know more about MARA and why I left, PM me …

Morrigan.2809:

It is strange to me that we have such different experiences on the same server- may be I am more easy going than I thought

As I mentioned, the behavior I have noticed is more recent and is by no means constant or wide spread. Perhaps it stands out more cos it seems so out of character for the server.

I don’t recall anything unusual during the events you mentioned, but then I was probably so engrossed in what I was doing at the time to notice much. I didn’t always have the /map chat window up.

marnick.4305:

1/ the monthly demands 60 champions slain and Queensdale is the easiest place to farm champions.

First, I did not try and got the Champion monthly in maybe 10-12 days. Playing a moderate amount will easily get it before the end of the month.

Second, Queensdale is not the best place to rack up champion kills. For example, in Fields of Ruin, you set off the Foulbear Kraal event (2-4 events to set it off) and you will get at least 4 champions and a guaranteed gold. With two players cooperating you will get it about as fast as 4 champions in Queensdale and get high tier crafting material loot. With 3 players, you can also catch the two wasp champions and get 6 champions in the same amount of time.

Doing the full Harathi Hinterlands Ulgoth chain is worth at least 8 champions. Doing just the end part if they control junction is worth 5. You can pop over and do the giant Hidden Ouboron event chain for another champion between runs.

Willing to pay way point fees? Forstgorge Sound usually has an easy champion quaggan. You can farm a champion spider out the northeast gate of Lion’s Arch. You can kill the jungle troll in north Caledon and the spider in north Metrica. You can see if the giant is attack Nageling in Diessa by looking for a contested waypoint. That is a 5 soloable champion circuit you can do continuously.

There are probably numerous other event chains spawning champions and champion circuits.