This happens every time, don’t give in to people complaining. People will complain about things they can not finish in a few hours and theu find many reason to justify how they don’t want play the game but want evwrything unlocked.
Anet please stand your ground, if you nerf it. The same people saying it took too long and grindy will leave in a week while yelling expansion is too easy and there is nothing to do.
Anet give in. It’s better to have people play the game and have a positive experience than to never finish it with a negative experience. Please think of your players.
I hope ArenaNet are standing their ground. I have no clue what people are doing to not be able to unlock things, are they just staring at the screen? Not even touching the keyboard and grunt every now and then when a silver platter doesn’t appear before them?
I play sloppily slow. I’ve been farting about and just explored things, looking at things close and died so many time for trying certain things. Unlocking anything is not even a problem.
I just hope that I will be able to experience THIS, as it should be, before ArenaNet nerfs it, IF they nerf it.
I think the grind is insane personally. A nerf however isn’t the option. Options is the solution.
Spitit shards to HP.
higher amount from WvW
That way those people who don’t want to farm masteries right away can use spirit shards for elite specizalation, play how they want to unlocking the masteries, then on ults do the HP if they desire.
Anet give in. It’s better to have people play the game and have a positive experience than to never finish it with a negative experience. Please think of your players.
Never finish it? Mastery is account wide, if you can blow it through in a week then what is the point of having this system. People wanted progression and here is one. Were people complaining new gears require you to play the actual game to get?
Never finish it? Mastery is account wide, if you can blow it through in a week then what is the point of having this system. People wanted progression and here is one. Were people complaining new gears require you to play the actual game to get?
Most complains I’ve seen are about hero points, not masteries. Big difference. I don’t mind grinding masteries if I could do it with my specializations fully unlocked.
I think the grind is insane personally. A nerf however isn’t the option. Options is the solution.
Spitit shards to HP.
higher amount from WvW
That way those people who don’t want to farm masteries right away can use spirit shards for elite specizalation, play how they want to unlocking the masteries, then on ults do the HP if they desire.
No nerfing, just solutions and options
The thing is , is it really grind when you don’t even jave to repeat content? I leveled to lv7 just by exploring and did not go back and releat a single event.
They’ll do what can make them earn more money…so will try to entertain both factions.
still pretend to keep it no-grind no-treadmill game in appearance, while creating mastery-level gates…and all the other raid/craft/pvp+pve stuff we already know.
Reasonable choice, but not enough to make everyone happy, especially gw2vanilla original population
Never finish it? Mastery is account wide, if you can blow it through in a week then what is the point of having this system. People wanted progression and here is one. Were people complaining new gears require you to play the actual game to get?
Most complains I’ve seen are about hero points, not masteries. Big difference.
If no hero points are required or too little are required then the hero points system will be non content that meant nothing. Some of the points are hard to get because of mastery, but mastery is account wide so you don’t have to level it up twice.
I think the grind is insane personally. A nerf however isn’t the option. Options is the solution.
Spitit shards to HP.
higher amount from WvW
That way those people who don’t want to farm masteries right away can use spirit shards for elite specizalation, play how they want to unlocking the masteries, then on ults do the HP if they desire.
No nerfing, just solutions and options
The thing is , is it really grind when you don’t even jave to repeat content? I leveled to lv7 just by exploring and did not go back and releat a single event.
The issue is I WANT to repeat the content. I really want to level masteries with my herald, explore the map with my herald, do the HP with my herald. But am forced to do it with my revenant just to unlock herald when it’s all done already
Never finish it? Mastery is account wide, if you can blow it through in a week then what is the point of having this system. People wanted progression and here is one. Were people complaining new gears require you to play the actual game to get?
Most complains I’ve seen are about hero points, not masteries. Big difference.
If no hero points are required or too little are required then the hero points system will be non content that meant nothing. Some of the points are hard to get because of mastery, but mastery is account wide so you don’t have to level it up twice.
That doesn’t make sense. The elite specializations are content regardless of the hero point requirements.
Never finish it? Mastery is account wide, if you can blow it through in a week then what is the point of having this system. People wanted progression and here is one. Were people complaining new gears require you to play the actual game to get?
Most complains I’ve seen are about hero points, not masteries. Big difference.
If no hero points are required or too little are required then the hero points system will be non content that meant nothing. Some of the points are hard to get because of mastery, but mastery is account wide so you don’t have to level it up twice.
That doesn’t make sense. The elite specializations are content regardless of the hero point requirements.
I’m talking about hero points system. People don’t appreciate things they easily get, and this is honestly not that hard to get in the first place.
This happens every time, don’t give in to people complaining. People will complain about things they can not finish in a few hours and theu find many reason to justify how they don’t want play the game but want evwrything unlocked.
Anet please stand your ground, if you nerf it. The same people saying it took too long and grindy will leave in a week while yelling expansion is too easy and there is nothing to do.
This is supposed to be a grind-free game. Why are you defending A-Net for falling back on their promises?
This is not about entitlement or free-handouts. This is about holding a company responsible for lying to customers. People have every right to be mad at A-Net right now.
Problem is they way Anet sold it. They treat the specializations like a new class. And with any new xpac you generally can start the new class at lvl 1. So the general expectation of some people was that they would get to play their specialization at a weaker level to start and build it up as they played it. But instead they have to grind/play the same class they have been playing for 1000s of hours before they even touch the new specialization. It’s anti-rewarding.
I can honestly say that if I bought HoT I would have been REALLY excited to be able to whip out a bow on my guard on day one. Should Anet change it, maybe not, but they sure as kitten should have sold it differently, in my opinion.
Personally I want specializations now rather than later because they would really help some classes and make certain builds much more viable and actually fun to play in PvE.
I hope ArenaNet are standing their ground. I have no clue what people are doing to not be able to unlock things, are they just staring at the screen? Not even touching the keyboard and grunt every now and then when a silver platter doesn’t appear before them?
I play sloppily slow. I’ve been farting about and just explored things, looking at things close and died so many time for trying certain things. Unlocking anything is not even a problem.
I just hope that I will be able to experience THIS, as it should be, before ArenaNet nerfs it, IF they nerf it.
Try and do the story. You hit a wall where you need to grind out 5million XP. Which is basically leveling to 80 all over again.
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I don’t mind the horizontal progression grind. I just think that it should be balanced sensibly for solo players, and not spawn champions during skill challenges.
It’s just an example, meaning people want progression to be done in a very ahort amount of time or they rage on forum.
To completely devalue peoples worries and disappointment in their experience so far is quite an extreme reaction, why do people feel so threatened by this?
This happens every time, don’t give in to people complaining. People will complain about things they can not finish in a few hours and theu find many reason to justify how they don’t want play the game but want evwrything unlocked.
Anet please stand your ground, if you nerf it. The same people saying it took too long and grindy will leave in a week while yelling expansion is too easy and there is nothing to do.
The grind is there to cover lack of content, you’ve demonstrated that with your own argument. Now you understand why people are not happy.
Customers have the right to complain. You make this game worse OP. Your enjoying mechanics based on previous QQ but your to stupid to realize it.
Complaining without a solution. Yes that’s the type of customer to listen to. Companies should ignore people who give no insight and solutions to a problem. People like you are the real problem.
Anet give in. It’s better to have people play the game and have a positive experience than to never finish it with a negative experience. Please think of your players.
This exactly^^^
Just because a very few vocal minority want to get pounded to death every time they turn a corner doesn’t justify the difficulty of some of these mobs. Particularly the way they seem to dogpile on one person when facing a group. There needs to be some soloability in a game where you spend 90% of your time solo.
Many people who have complained have offered constructive criticism and possible solutions. I have done so myself and have read many other posts doing the same.
Many people who have complained have offered constructive criticism and possible solutions. I have done so myself and have read many other posts doing the same.
Good. That’s my point. Those should be read. It’s the non stop complaining with no solution that should be ignored and deleted
This happens every time, don’t give in to people complaining. People will complain about things they can not finish in a few hours and theu find many reason to justify how they don’t want play the game but want evwrything unlocked.
Anet please stand your ground, if you nerf it. The same people saying it took too long and grindy will leave in a week while yelling expansion is too easy and there is nothing to do.
Just because you are satisfied with doing the world completion crapola, does not mean many other players are. Lots of us want different ways to get the specs, and that is an issue that must be addressed. NOT everyone plays like you do, so stop assuming everything is fine just because it doesn’t negatively affect your experience, you are discounting a lot of legitimate concerns from a large number of players.
Anet give in. It’s better to have people play the game and have a positive experience than to never finish it with a negative experience. Please think of your players.
This exactly^^^
Just because a very few vocal minority want to get pounded to death every time they turn a corner doesn’t justify the difficulty of some of these mobs. Particularly the way they seem to dogpile on one person when facing a group. There needs to be some soloability in a game where you spend 90% of your time solo.
Actually the majority are playing the game, people complaining on forum are vocal minority.
I don’t get the complaints either. In the console world this style of exploring areas to unlock new abilities to access new areas is called “metroidvania” and it’s beloved by all. But then again when it comes to video games every gamer under the sun thinks they’re a design major and that they know better.
Leader of Contre [VS], just a bunch of zen adults
focus on Dungeons, Fractals and Raiding.
I don’t get the complaints either. In the console world this style of exploring areas to unlock new abilities to access new areas is called “metroidvania” and it’s beloved by all. But then again when it comes to video games every gamer under the sun thinks they’re a design major and that they know better.
Actually no Metoidvania games are not beloved by all, especially not if they feature too much back tracking, such as requiring stuff from the end of the game to unlock functionality in the start of the game.
For example, having fat frog mastery requirement for hero challenges in the first zone, when said mastery requires traveling to the last zone to get.
When what it unlocks is functionality to play the game, and not a bit of customization, fluff or easter egg?
That is bad design, (and yup I actually have a degree in it so yeah.)
Actually no Metoidvania games are not beloved by all, especially not if they feature too much back tracking, such as requiring stuff from the end of the game to unlock functionality in the start of the game.
For example, having fat frog mastery requirement for hero challenges in the first zone, when said mastery requires traveling to the last zone to get.
When what it unlocks is functionality to play the game, and not a bit of customization, fluff or easter egg?
That is bad design, (and yup I actually have a degree in it so yeah.)
People hate backtrack because you have to walk all the way back, in the case of GW2. Just click wp and glide down.
Elite specializations are not character progression. They are an alternate playstyle. The mastery system is character progression. Elites don’t give you and advantage over normal professions they just offer a different way to play. Masteries actually give you an advantage once you achieve them. Why have to grind out 400 hero points just for an alternate play style? I like the mastery system and think it is fine the way it is. Unlocking these “elites” for 400 hero points is just idioitic. These alternate traits and utilities should cost the same as the regular traits and utilities.
Anet give in. It’s better to have people play the game and have a positive experience than to never finish it with a negative experience. Please think of your players.
This exactly^^^
Just because a very few vocal minority want to get pounded to death every time they turn a corner doesn’t justify the difficulty of some of these mobs. Particularly the way they seem to dogpile on one person when facing a group. There needs to be some soloability in a game where you spend 90% of your time solo.
Actually the majority are playing the game, people complaining on forum are vocal minority.
This is supposed to be a grind-free game. Why are you defending A-Net for falling back on their promises?
No, this never has been, is not, and never will be “supposed to be a grind-free game”. Arenanet have just gone on record as saying that they don’t like grind. That’s it. That’s all they said and all they meant.
One of the necessary ingredients for a genuinely grind-free MMO is a magic reality distortion field. The best you can do in the real world, where such things sadly do not exist, is to try and disguise the grind or make it a bit more palatable. Clearly, you do not think ANet have succeeded in this. Plenty of people agree with you, plenty of other people don’t. Time will tell whether or not there is actually a problem here, but blind outrage helps nobody.
This is not about entitlement or free-handouts. This is about holding a company responsible for lying to customers. People have every right to be mad at A-Net right now.
ANet were quite explicit in interviews as early as January that masteries exist primarily to gate content so that players don’t consume it too quickly. If you failed then to understand what was going on, that’s your problem (but ANet will still refund you your purchase if you want).
