The design is all about the slow glide down. They don’t want full flight in the game. Wouldn’t it let people access places not designed to be reached? Same way gliding at all in core maps would be a technical nightmare?
I like it as it is; once you have Gliding 4 you won’t fall out of the sky due to endurance failing and you can generally find updrafts to get more height.
But I do agree I was a little disappointed when I got “leaning techniques” I was expecting some sort of flight (like Arkham City). But it’d probably be to complicated in the current engine.
And where/what is the source of energy to maintain flight. It’s called a glider for a reason.
::turns to the nearest asura::
“You know, a charr told me it was impossible to come up with a propulsion system light enough and small enough to use to make gliders work for full flight.”
::does the same thing to the nearest Iron Legion, saying an asura said it::
There. Problem will be solved by morning.
Sarcasm, delivered with a
delicate, brick-like subtlety.
And where/what is the source of energy to maintain flight. It’s called a glider for a reason.
::turns to the nearest asura::
“You know, a charr told me it was impossible to come up with a propulsion system light enough and small enough to use to make gliders work for full flight.”
::does the same thing to the nearest Iron Legion, saying an asura said it::
There. Problem will be solved by morning.
Hah! Best answer. Next living world update there’ll be an argument between the Charr and Asura about patenting. Followed by flying in the update afterward!
It’s not an engine limitation. It’s a design choice.
Giving people gliders creates controllable air mobility.
Giving people helicopters and airplanes gives them uncontrollable air mobility.
They specifically went with gliding so that you can’t use it to skip past certain roadblocks and generally just fly around the map, only swooping down to loot a chest or do an event.
Yes because it has no propulsion, not because it cant gain altitude, its a glider not a parachute.
This
Gaining altitude without a source of propulsion results in a loss of airspeed unless you have some alternative source such as a updraft. Loss of airspeed invariably results in loss of lift which if not corrected results in a stall. (and subsequent fall from the sky.)
Besides HoT gliders are closer to a wingsuit or hang-glider than any type if gliding aircraft. So yes they are closer to parachutes than gliders.
By physics, HoT gliders don’t even make sense because you start your glide from a standstill jump with no airspeed. If we wanted to be realistic, we should have to drop a few hundred feet before gaining enough speed to pull up and being gliding.
Heck that’s not even going into the fact that the basic glider isn’t even a airfoil.
Traversing Maguma is a pain in the kitten , please make the 5th glider mastery to allow you to get full flight capability, not just gliding.
I like the current gliding system once fully mastered just as it is. I don’t want straight up flying mounts that have full control because then exploration has ZERO challenge left to it, but limited flight the way it is with updrafts and leylines to supplement it, is very fun and I enjoy it a lot.
The only thing I’d change is make a setting so that automatic deployment of gliders was disabled so that I could make short jumps for jumping puzzles without my glider coming out and screwing it up. Sometimes it happens even when I just tap space.
And where/what is the source of energy to maintain flight. It’s called a glider for a reason.
::turns to the nearest asura::
“You know, a charr told me it was impossible to come up with a propulsion system light enough and small enough to use to make gliders work for full flight.”
::does the same thing to the nearest Iron Legion, saying an asura said it::
There. Problem will be solved by morning.
Hah! Best answer. Next living world update there’ll be an argument between the Charr and Asura about patenting. Followed by flying in the update afterward!
Even better, we’ll have to vote which tech we’ll use, with little badges to show support, like the Kiel/Gnashblade election system.
Full flight would lack challenge. With glider jumping puzzles are still relevant, updrafts serve as mini air jumping puzzles, leyline gliding has a point etc.
sides take a look at what happened to pact fleet. You don’t wanna stay airborne for too long in heart of the maguuma…
No god no. Full flight would suck all the enjoyment out of the system. We’ve seen what full flight does in other MMO’s, it just makes everyone sit around on their “flyer” and skip over tons of content.
Well, this isn’t WoW. (Thank the six.)
Actually, I feel it’s more of a challenge when you have to look for updrafts and/or places to land. So yeah, gliding is actually pretty fun.
While flying might be fun, personally I think gliding is a better system. I’ve read way too many complaints on the WoW forums about people who fly everywhere and use that to cherry pick things to do and to trivialize content. They fly in, land, do whatever they landed for at that one spot then fly off and go to the next spot. They never interact with the game except at those specific spots. This effectively removes players from the landscape that non flying players are moving through and makes the map more empty.
Gliding allows you to skip some things, but it also requires you to look for updraft and forces you to eventually land and stay on the ground for a while. While you are there you are interacting with others and moving with them. It doesn’t empty the map of higher level players the way flying does.
I would like to see lean techniques granting the ability to dive and gain altitude by pulling up out of a dive instead of just going faster/slower. Might be a bit difficult with the physics engine though.
Well, the entire expansion was designed with gliding, not full flight in mind, so no. Also it would likely open the maps up to a lot of areas to break or cause unintended consequences.
Plus, Gliding is what I think all masteries should aspire to be, instead of just arbitrary keys. Gliding is one of the few masteries that gives you enhancements on a way to interact wiht the world overtime, and takes not only the mastery, but skill of using that mastery to succeed. As opposed to other lines where its just “oh you can stand in poison, or talk to this vendor now” that are definitely just XP gates.
Full flight – dear god no, just look at the mess it made of WOW later expansions. Gliding is a nice compromise, and makes movement meaningful, i.e every event doesn’t get drowned in a swarm of eager farmers, think about it.
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