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Posted by: Jaken.6801

Jaken.6801

Though I will think of these guys here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xm_GJQ1LT4Y

And actually, I don`t mind

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Posted by: DarkSyze.8627

DarkSyze.8627

If you want to suggest a better name: it need to fit the role and to make sense.

" Solutions To A Problem Can Only Be Found, When You Want To Get Rid Of It "
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Posted by: Nike.2631

Nike.2631

SWOTR was probably the worst example in recent memory of caving to the lowest common denominator – taking a game that promised real consequences and even permanent death for companions and turning into a tragic white-bread farce of no decision meaning ANYTHING for fear of hurting the delicate sensibilities of players.

I sincerely hope ANet stands the line on this one. It’s fairly OBVIOUS how the profession name sums up the thought process that lead to this set of tools – how bow and trap are the iconic tools of hunters and how the newly established profession then goes on to turn those tools to the destruction of the Elder Dragons and their minions.

“You keep saying ‘its unfair.’
I wonder what your basis for comparison is…”
- Jareth, King of Goblins.

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Posted by: Mordeus.1234

Mordeus.1234

Now that you mention it, it does seem more like a Paragon than a Dragonhunter. Actually nothing so far except for the dragon monster seen in the trailer and the name of the elite invokes anything dragon themed.

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Posted by: Sankofa Jimiyu.1567

Sankofa Jimiyu.1567

I think they wanted to stay away from titles from other franchises.
That would make Arbiter a problem. Justicar was associated with the White Mantel, and seeing they still have some influence in the current lore associated with bad guys, that leaves that suggestion our as well.

My suggestions:
Castigator (Suggested already, thanks)
Harrier
Censor

“Look like the innocent flower, but be the Obaba under’t.”

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Posted by: Mordeus.1234

Mordeus.1234

Since the expansion is still in the testing phases, it would be cool to take on community feedback in regards to the name. But then again I’m the camp where I find the name to be incredibly jarring.

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Posted by: glehmann.9586

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I like Dragonhunter, even if it’s not the most inspired-sounding name.

It makes perfect sense to me that Guardians, with all their focus on protection, would specialize in protecting people from the biggest threat known to Tyria. And “Dragonhunter” rolls off the tongue better than “Guardians-that-specialize-in-defense-against-dragons” does. My only real issue is that Dragonhunters’ abilities don’t seem particularly focused on dragons, at least from what I’ve seen.

(btw, it’s “My life for Aiur!” that Protoss zealots say)

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Posted by: Nike.2631

Nike.2631

New Weapon: The bow – one of the greatest, most iconic hunting tools in the history of the human race

New Skill category: Traps – one of the most essential hunting tools in the history of the human race.

The Enemy: Elder Dragons – the ultimate peril of the world of Tyria. If we do not strive against them with our every breath, all will die.

New Profession: The Dragon Hunter – “I take the tools of the hunter and turn them against the foes that must be fought. For the good of all.”

The name wasn’t picked out of a hat… Its a graceful bit of shorthand both summing up and evoking many elements the profession encompasses.

“You keep saying ‘its unfair.’
I wonder what your basis for comparison is…”
- Jareth, King of Goblins.

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Posted by: zenleto.6179

zenleto.6179

It makes perfect sense to me that Guardians, with all their focus on protection, would specialize in protecting people from the biggest threat known to Tyria.

This is what I thought when I first heard the name as well.

Fire up the Hyperbowl ma, we’re going to town!

Would you like some hard cheeze with your sad whine?

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Posted by: Xenon.4537

Xenon.4537

(btw, it’s “My life for Aiur!” that Protoss zealots say)

I know. I was making a joke that’s rather common among Starcraft fans. Nothing against starcraft, or zealots, but I feel it’s an unoriginal name for this spec and doesn’t quite fit the bow theme.

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Posted by: Jaken.6801

Jaken.6801

Should we just call it the Marvel, while we’re at it? Or perhaps the Cap?

I get that some names are going to have already been used for other things. That happens a lot. But you cannot believe anyone would take “the Avenger!” seriously. Not when that name is so widely, thoroughly, and infamously associated with a Marvel superhero group. Just doesn’t work.

Same with Arbiter. ‘Arbiter’ either means a very particular Elite from an old Bungie property, or someone who decides against you in a legal decision out of court. Furthermore, neither of those words remotely suggest a hunter, which is what this new specialization is.

Frankly, Archangel is closer to the correct idea, but it’s also patently unsuitable as these things are not, in fact, divine beings. Which also shoots down Valkyrie twice over, for that matter. And again, coming up with every single possible way of saying "Guardian’ except with different letters offers absolutely no indication of what this class actually does.

“Druid” is intuitively understood as a natural magic user who communes closely with nature.

“Chronomancer” is intuitively understood as a mage who specializes in time manipulation

Hell, for that matter “Guardian” is intuitively understood as an individual who stands with his allies and protects them from harm.

This new specialization is a big-game hunter who fuels his archery and his traps with righteous light manifested as burning energy/constructs. Ya know what? There is no good one-word name for one of those. “Dragonhunter” is honestly about as close as we can realistically get to a single word which tries (and does partially fail, but less so than anything else I’ve seen) to make what the thing does intuitively understandable from its name alone.

Until you can find me a one-word title that says “Light-manipulating hunter of large angry animals”, we’re probably going to have to stick with Dragonhunter as the best they can do.

That’s what happens when you get beyond established tropes in a fantasy setting – longstanding one-word names just don’t really work anymore.

Uhhhh names have been used elsewhere can`t be used again. Let`s cross them off in the public conciousness.

Seriously? When I think of Arbiter, i got this guy in mind: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xm_GJQ1LT4Y

However, you know what? If the name fits, why not use it?

How many Warriors, Mesmer, Necromancer or Engineers are out there? The latter one. Do you think of Team Fortess 2?

The repetition of names in different media is nothing new or anything bad.
Everyone will associate something else with it.

What matters is the meaning behind it.
An artificial blown up meaning however is just a bad move. Just because it has a fraction of something doesn`t make the whole thing it.

The “dragonhunter” has only two things connecting him to dragons. The name and his equipment.

The rest is normal hunter stuff, with light arrows, light traps and even Angelwings for gods sake.

How does anyone see an dragonhunter in him is beyond my understanding.

Btw. people are angry about the “dragon” in the name. The hunter is perfectly fine, since it actually describes the class much better.

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Posted by: Nike.2631

Nike.2631

New Weapon: The bow – one of the greatest, most iconic hunting tools in the history of the human race

New Skill category: Traps – one of the most essential hunting tools in the history of the human race.

The Enemy: Elder Dragons – the ultimate peril of the world of Tyria. If we do not strive against them with our every breath, all will die.

New Profession: The Dragon Hunter – “I take the tools of the hunter and turn them against the foes that must be fought. For the good of all.”

The name wasn’t picked out of a hat… Its a graceful bit of shorthand both summing up and evoking many elements the profession encompasses.

“You keep saying ‘its unfair.’
I wonder what your basis for comparison is…”
- Jareth, King of Goblins.

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Posted by: sorudo.9054

sorudo.9054

if “dragonhunter” is the name of a sub class of the guardian just because of a bow, what are you doing with a bow when there are no dragons?
in ESO they have the dragon knight, this makes sense because it uses the essence of a dragon to fight.
this however makes no sense at all, you’re not hunting dragons when you’re using your bow mostly against non-dragons.

it’s like calling someone “bonecrusher” when he uses a dagger, or “fleshweaver” to an elementalist……

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Posted by: Noha.3749

Noha.3749

Seems Dragonhunter won the poll.
I dont mind, im no guardian!

80 Everything except Ranger & Guardian.
Theorycrafter & trickster.
Friend, father & lover!

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Posted by: Jaken.6801

Jaken.6801

Actually he has a bit of a point.

If a class would be actually using the knowledge of the fight against dragon or even use the power of dragons (which is possible if we think of dragon energy) then it would be okay.

However the dragonhunter just screams hunter. Nothing specific to dragons. It`s just a name out of nowhere.

What we have seen are abilities which look like normal traps and armor piercing arrows. Anything that goes against any armored creature, not dragon specific.

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Posted by: glehmann.9586

glehmann.9586

I have to disagree with you, Jaken.

They are not tied to a particular race, philosophy, or group of gods but rather to a larger concept of proactive defense, of taking the fight to a foe and protecting those you fight alongside while appealing equally to humanity’s defensive nature and the charr’s desire to rule the battlefield.

The Guardian also doesn’t feel particularly religious, but he does feel spiritual. What I mean by that is that the Guardian embodies certain ideals without ascribing to any one faith in particular, which is also a bit different than your typical Paladin archetype.

Quotes taken from this blog post.

Naming a Guardian elite spec after a specific religion’s ideas seems rather strongly counter to the class’ design. Guardian’s power isn’t divine, it comes from their own passion for defending their allies.

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Posted by: glehmann.9586

glehmann.9586

(btw, it’s “My life for Aiur!” that Protoss zealots say)

I know. I was making a joke that’s rather common among Starcraft fans. Nothing against starcraft, or zealots, but I feel it’s an unoriginal name for this spec and doesn’t quite fit the bow theme.

I’m so out of touch with the jokes the hip Star Craft kids are making these days…

I don’t have a problem with Zealot as a Guardian elite spec name, but it definitely doesn’t sound any more original than Dragonhunter to me. And I agree that it doesn’t sound like something that fits a longbow and traps.

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Posted by: GrandHaven.1052

GrandHaven.1052

Reddit says Arbiter! Although I still don’t know, its a hard – one. EDIT : Had to space that out because I got kittened for it… LOL

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Posted by: Gilburt.9146

Gilburt.9146

Sentinel, Seeker, and Warden would all be good options that would be well suited to the longbow/traps I feel (with sentinel being my favorite).

One thing I dislike about Dragonhunter is there’s nothing innately “Guardian” about it. Why couldn’t a Warrior or Ranger also be a “big game hunter?” What does dragonhunting have to do with guardian over other professions? And why are guardians “big game hunting?” It sounds more like a hobby.

It won’t stop me from playing the game and I doubt it will be changed, but I just don’t like the idea of my guardian being called a Dragonhunter. I’m doing more than just hunting dragons and certainly doing more than “hunting big game.” The name of the mesmer specialization perfectly fits what the specialization does: manipulate time. Dragonhunter does not. I’m not just hunting dragons, I’m fighting humans, Sylvari, Skrit, dragons, etc. It’s not like it’s a specialization you select only when you want to slay large foes.

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Posted by: Mada.5319

Mada.5319

You should actually read my entire post. I addressed all of that. Yes, player characters could make use of secondary professions and NPCs could as well, but in the lore typically what counted was only any NPCs primary profession and Thackeray straight up changed his, something I think nearly no one else could do.

I’m also not suggesting a name change to Paragon as I agree it would make no sense now. My point was just that ANet COULD have made the Elite spec Paragon in a way that made sense.

You are trying to say that just because one GW1 NPC changed his profession from one associated with bows to one associated with spears somehow means that a GW2 profession unrelated to spears changing to one with a bow can be called a Paragon.

Do you see how your argument falls a part here? If anything, your argument supports the Guardian’s elite spec being called something related to rangers, which is exactly what Anet did anyway.

Also, in what way was the Paragon important to the development of guardians? Many of the guardian’s skills are old gw1 monk and warrior skills. Stand Your Ground is the only old paragon skill.

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Posted by: Vorch.1807

Vorch.1807

It’s a name also used in Rift – name of mage tank soul.

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Posted by: Jaken.6801

Jaken.6801

But how is Hunter related to Guardian? I do not see any connection. For Ranger sure, but Guardian?

Actually I would play it.

The abilities of the Guardian could work awesome for traps and the new class actually shows it.

The guardian always used barriers and light to stop the enemy, so yeah. It makes sense, if there is someone who goes for the suprise effect instead of the “hammer in your face” aproach.

The battlestyle fits. The name on the other hand…

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Posted by: sorudo.9054

sorudo.9054

New Weapon: The bow – one of the greatest, most iconic hunting tools in the history of the human race

New Skill category: Traps – one of the most essential hunting tools in the history of the human race.

The Enemy: Elder Dragons – the ultimate peril of the world of Tyria. If we do not strive against them with our every breath, all will die.

New Profession: The Dragon Hunter – “I take the tools of the hunter and turn them against the foes that must be fought. For the good of all.”

The name wasn’t picked out of a hat… Its a graceful bit of shorthand both summing up and evoking many elements the profession encompasses.

in short, everything a ranger already has from launch but with more weapons of choice.

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Posted by: Xenon.4537

Xenon.4537

(btw, it’s “My life for Aiur!” that Protoss zealots say)

I know. I was making a joke that’s rather common among Starcraft fans. Nothing against starcraft, or zealots, but I feel it’s an unoriginal name for this spec and doesn’t quite fit the bow theme.

I’m so out of touch with the jokes the hip Star Craft kids are making these days…

I don’t have a problem with Zealot as a Guardian elite spec name, but it definitely doesn’t sound any more original than Dragonhunter to me. And I agree that it doesn’t sound like something that fits a longbow and traps.

If they did Zealot as a guardian spec, I would expect it to be more about dual wielding swords or maces with an extremely glass-cannon melee theme. the word “zealot” means a person who is fanatical and uncompromising in pursuit of their religious, political, or other ideals. In the context of a combat spec, I see that as being fully in-your-face offensive with no regard to defense. It’s someone who is so obsessed with fighting for their cause that they forgo personal safety and fly into a frenzy. The name certainly doesn’t fit the theme of the bow and traps, but I wouldn’t be against that spec being added in addition to the Dragonhunter later down the road.

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Posted by: Jaken.6801

Jaken.6801

Chronomancer as a good example? No thank you. It is quite bad, but whatever.

Can be argued.
Sure they could go with a better time based name, but this gets the idea across.
it harkens back to Guild Wars 1.
Many people know that chrono has something to do with time.
The class uses a clock and time motive in general.

So yeah. Even if the name can be a bit better, it ties actually quite good into the whole picture.

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Posted by: Mordeus.1234

Mordeus.1234

At this point, I’m open to any Guardian themed name other than Dragonhunter.

Some names I’ve thought of my own would be Seraph or the Celestial since it invokes something holy, is winged like an Angel and delivers out vengeance from the distance. Or if rumours of it being related to Braham’s quest for vengeance, then just call it Avenger or Vindicator. Even calling it the Paragon makes sense due to their new Virtues, if they don’t want to draw parallels to GW1, then use Exemplar which means the same thing. Or even call it something like the Seeker if the focus is on ranged combat.

Aside from Dragonhunter being off message for the Guardian, it gives the character a very specific roleplay motivation. In Tyria dragons are seen as evil, but evil isn’t seen as dragons. I think a name that invokes someone that hunts down evil is the right thing for such a specialisation but it needs to welcome more player motivations than simply engaging in the PVE storyline of Zhaitan & friends.

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Posted by: Nike.2631

Nike.2631

I’m sorry, you are pitching the real world profession of the guy that’s called in when unions and management can’t settle on a contract?

If this were to happen step one is to role a new one named “Judge Judy”. Followed by “Small Claims Court” and then “Stalled Negotiations” and “Who Needs Juries” and, and, and…

The list of terrible jokes writes itself.

Arbiters are important, and useful, but they’re also about the polar opposite of heroic.

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I wonder what your basis for comparison is…”
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Posted by: Gilburt.9146

Gilburt.9146

Dragonhunter makes no sense as a specialization name and Chronomancer does. The Mesmer elite specialization name does make sense. Why? Because you specialize as a Chronomancer to manipulate time. Do you specialize as a Dragonhunter to hunt dragons? No. You will hunt and fight all types foes, not just “big game.”

Also, there is nothing innately Guardian about being a Dragonhunter. Why couldn’t a Warrior or Ranger hunt dragons? There’s not really any reason Dragonhunter fits the Guardian anymore than it could fit those professions. Why wouldn’t an armored master of combat or master of the nature want to hunt big game? They are arguably even more suited to the name than Guardians.

Personally I would prefer Sentinel as it fits the theme of defending from a range with longbow and setting traps.

Edit: Also, lol at the OPs argument. “These names are used elsewhere at some place and some time: therefore they are bad.” What?

Brother Gilburt – Guard / Agent Gilburt – Thief

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Posted by: Nike.2631

Nike.2631

in short, everything a ranger already has from launch but with more weapons of choice.

I like to think everything a ranger has failed to deliver since launch as a result of being shackled to a dumber-than-rocks pet .

Oh, and without the )&#@ing trench coat.

(What? You think the Druid won’t smear the line with Guardians?)

“You keep saying ‘its unfair.’
I wonder what your basis for comparison is…”
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Posted by: Wanderer.3248

Wanderer.3248

Dragon hunter is as to class names as Justin Bieber is to music.

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Posted by: CMinnett.2375

CMinnett.2375

Not really a fan of this name, either. I’d prefer something like Bastion. Makes more sense, at least in my mind…defensive, good for ranged stuff, strategic. Y’know…a bastion.

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Posted by: CureForLiving.5360

CureForLiving.5360

The over-all theme of this new specialization is a dragon theme.

I’m experiencing exactly the opposite. There isn’t much of a dragon theme as far as I can tell. In fact thematically it feels a bit, all over to me. I can’t see the central theme of the dragonhunter. In chronomancer it was ‘time’ but what is the theme of dragonhunter? It’s not dragons, maybe hunting because of the traps and stuff?

However the dragonhunter just screams hunter. Nothing specific to dragons. It`s just a name out of nowhere.

Exactly.

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Posted by: sorudo.9054

sorudo.9054

in short, everything a ranger already has from launch but with more weapons of choice.

I like to think everything a ranger has failed to deliver since launch as a result of being shackled to a dumber-than-rocks pet .

Oh, and without the )&#@ing trench coat.

(What? You think the Druid won’t smear the line with Guardians?)

so now the guardian becomes the dumber-than-rocks pet…….well ok

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Posted by: Nike.2631

Nike.2631

New Weapon: The bow – one of the greatest, most iconic hunting tools in the history of the human race

New Skill category: Traps – one of the most essential hunting tools in the history of the human race.

The Enemy: Elder Dragons – the ultimate peril of the world of Tyria. If we do not strive against them with our every breath, all will die.

New Profession: The Dragon Hunter – “I take the tools of the hunter and turn them against the foes that must be fought. For the good of all.”

The name wasn’t picked out of a hat… Its a graceful bit of shorthand both summing up and evoking many elements the profession encompasses.

“You keep saying ‘its unfair.’
I wonder what your basis for comparison is…”
- Jareth, King of Goblins.

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Posted by: VergilDeZaniah.3295

VergilDeZaniah.3295

I would personally prefer to have the DH now and get the paragon when they decide to release spears and everything related to paragons.

I prefer a specialization that lives up to the lore than something far from its original name.

Guild leader of The Nephilim of Elysium.

Son of Elonia.

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Posted by: Dadnir.5038

Dadnir.5038

What’s amazing is that in other langages the name is ok. For exemple in french the name end up being “draconnier” which is somewhat far from “dragonhunter”.
They could have named it “draconeer” in english it would have been neutral.

No core profession should be balanced around an optional elite specialization.

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Posted by: Jaken.6801

Jaken.6801

New Weapon: The bow – one of the greatest, most iconic hunting tools in the history of the human race

New Skill category: Traps – one of the most essential hunting tools in the history of the human race.

The Enemy: Elder Dragons – the ultimate peril of the world of Tyria. If we do not strive against them with our every breath, all will die.

New Profession: The Dragon Hunter – “I take the tools of the hunter and turn them against the foes that must be fought. For the good of all.”

The name wasn’t picked out of a hat… Its a graceful bit of shorthand both summing up and evoking many elements the profession encompasses.

So we call them only when we fight dragons?
I agree with your points and yeah it makes some kind of sense.

The thing is, he won`t be hunting that many dragons. Dragons are not that prominent in Tyria, aside from ED control and even then they are mostly engaged with heavy machinery and armies, instead of lone hunters. (at least before we see the maguuma depths)

He is a simple big game hunter. Just because he might aim for a dragon in the future, it doesn`t change the fact that he kills mostly other critters. even big ones.

If dragons were more prominent in the game (by that i mean apearing in the wild), I would actually agree on the name, since it would make sense that there were people who specialize in hunting them.

However with whole factions and armies going against dragons it just feels out of place.
These groups are allready specializing aginst this particular enemy. Should we call them dragonhunters as well?

I know where they are comming from, but still it is a very narrowminded name for a class which actually has much more potential.

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Posted by: Esplen.3940

Esplen.3940

Nike, you do realize that there are other professions that utilize traps, bows, and fight Dragons.

The fact that every profession fights Dragons makes the whole “Dragonhunter” theme feel somewhat impersonal. Especially since there are Rangers (notably mistaken for Hunters constantly both within and outside of the game)… that fight Dragons… with Bows… and Traps.

So when you say Dragonhunter, it just feels like you’re another Ranger trying to be all buddy buddy with Logan Thackeray.

Oh, but you’re a Guardian? Woah there. So what makes you unique?

Oh, you have a skill that gives you wings and let’s you leap at your foes? That’s cute. You’re just making yourself look like a Ranger even more.

So what distinguishes you from a Ranger? The fact that you’re a Guardian? No. You’re not a Guardian anymore. You’re a Rang-… Dragonhunter… among 7 other Professions who all hunt Dragon minions. Okay. What.

And what if you’re not hunting Dragons? What if you’re mosing off in Metrica Province or thwacking some Charr in Ascalon? Oh, you still hunt Dragons? All 0 of them under your belt? Okay, okay, cool.

See, the difference between the Chronomancer and the Dragonhunter, at least in name, is that the Chronomancer gives a unique concept in design and execution.

Chronomancers are all about time-magic. Risk and reward over time. You won’t know if you made the right choice until after the fact.

Dragonhunters are all about… dragon hunting? Except, you know, they’re still hunting dragons alongside everyone else. Everyone.

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Posted by: Miss Lana.5276

Miss Lana.5276

Dragonhunter makes no sense as a specialization name and Chronomancer does. The Mesmer elite specialization name does make sense. Why? Because you specialize as a Chronomancer to manipulate time. Do you specialize as a Dragonhunter to hunt dragons? No. You will hunt and fight all types foes, not just “big game.”

Also, there is nothing innately Guardian about being a Dragonhunter. Why couldn’t a Warrior or Ranger hunt dragons? There’s not really any reason Dragonhunter fits the Guardian anymore than it could fit those professions. Why wouldn’t an armored master of combat or master of the nature want to hunt big game? They are arguably even more suited to the name than Guardians.

Personally I would prefer Sentinel as it fits the theme of defending from a range with longbow and setting traps.

Edit: Also, lol at the OPs argument. “These names are used elsewhere at some place and some time: therefore they are bad.” What?

Agreed. My Necro hunts dragons. Isn’t she a Dragonhunter already?

The two words mashed into one name doesn’t work – at all.

48 Characters|Necro|Raider|Fractaller|PvPer|Singer
So long Treeface.
“…Kormir? I know not of whom you speak.”

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Posted by: laokoko.7403

laokoko.7403

Dragon hunter is as to class names as Justin Bieber is to music.

That is so untrue Dragon hunter is really cool in Skyrim, just imagine what Anet can do with the name.

Dragonhunter aka Dragonkind Hunter Born aka Dovahkiin uses the power of shouts
“words of power” to create powerful magical effects.

Fus Ro Dah
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsMdWEpnZV8

All the potential!

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Posted by: Harper.4173

Harper.4173

It’s my life for Aiur.

If here they fall they shall live on when ever you cry “For Ascalon!”

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Nike.2631

I am happy with the current name.

New Weapon: The bow – one of the greatest, most iconic hunting tools in the history of the human race

New Skill category: Traps – one of the most essential hunting tools in the history of the human race.

The Enemy: Elder Dragons – the ultimate peril of the world of Tyria. If we do not strive against them with our every breath, all will die.

New Profession: The Dragon Hunter – “I take the tools of the hunter and turn them against the foes that must be fought. For the good of all.”

The name wasn’t picked out of a hat… Its a graceful bit of shorthand both summing up and evoking many elements the profession encompasses.

“You keep saying ‘its unfair.’
I wonder what your basis for comparison is…”
- Jareth, King of Goblins.

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Mordeus.1234

I think the problem with the Revenant name is that they really did exhaust all the base professions but felt compelled to make a third heavy armor just for symmetry. But it does have roots with a mystical profession like say the Ritualist, so the summoning of dead spirits is a gap left open by GW1 lore.

I’m also okay with the Tempest because it refers a weather wizard. I just hope it has some connection to the Zephyrites’s wielding of wind, sun and lightning. I can imagine someone picking the Tempest with air and maybe water magic.

The Druid works because it is a DnD staple and links to the Rangers already present nature magic.

The Chronomancer works because of it’s lore links with the unreleased GW1 expansion and because the Mesmer has it’s share of time based magic.

The Dragonhunter makes no clear sense (yet) for why it was named. I get the hunter reference since it is basically a Guardian with a secondary profession of a Ranger with a bow. But the dragon bit doesn’t come across since all of Tyria are dragon hunters, even moreso Norn, Rangers the Pact. I’ve said this before but Dragons are evil, but evil ain’t Dragons. So for all the times we aren’t chasing down dragons via PVE, the dragonhunter seems a bit redundant.

It’s like calling oneself an Undeadslayer after everyone has moved on from Zhaitan and Orr. Or an Oceandiver when you spend the majority of your time on land. Or a Firebreather when you are a Sylvari doused in petrol.

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Posted by: Jayden Ennok.3687

Jayden Ennok.3687

Imagine the confusion in dungeon lfgs.

Underworld Vabbi 1.5yr

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Posted by: Shiki.7148

Shiki.7148

New Weapon: The bow – one of the greatest, most iconic hunting tools in the history of the human race

New Skill category: Traps – one of the most essential hunting tools in the history of the human race.

The Enemy: Elder Dragons – the ultimate peril of the world of Tyria. If we do not strive against them with our every breath, all will die.

New Profession: The Dragon Hunter – “I take the tools of the hunter and turn them against the foes that must be fought. For the good of all.”

The name wasn’t picked out of a hat… Its a graceful bit of shorthand both summing up and evoking many elements the profession encompasses.

in short, everything a ranger already has from launch but with more weapons of choice.

Yes… thats why the Guardian is called a DRAGONhunter, not simply a hunter. Those puny tiny arrows of a ranger don’t really hurt a Dragon, Dragons eat magic like bonbons and their scales block swords. The Arrows the Dragonhunter shot in the trailer looked (taking the light into account) more like the DH firing a Ballista X) More suited to hit right through a Dragons defenses. (All of this is RP-stuff, not real mechanics obv, it would be BS if only a DH could deal meaningful damage to dragons from a gameplay perspective).

“Revenant is actual proof that devs read the necromancer forum” – Pelopidas.2140

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Posted by: Bingo.2174

Bingo.2174

Dear Anet, I hate it.

There are no dragons in SPVP. There are no dragons in WVW.

Pick any other name- Bastion, Stalwart, Valkyr, Arbiter, Warder.

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Posted by: Peira.6210

Peira.6210

+1 to the “Arbiter is a better name” clan

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Posted by: Shiki.7148

Shiki.7148

if “dragonhunter” is the name of a sub class of the guardian just because of a bow, what are you doing with a bow when there are no dragons?
in ESO they have the dragon knight, this makes sense because it uses the essence of a dragon to fight.
this however makes no sense at all, you’re not hunting dragons when you’re using your bow mostly against non-dragons.

it’s like calling someone “bonecrusher” when he uses a dagger, or “fleshweaver” to an elementalist……

I think they just thought Dragonhunter would sound better than “Monsterhunter” or “Biggamehunter” or simply “Hunter”. Or “HugeMonsterThingsHunter”

“Revenant is actual proof that devs read the necromancer forum” – Pelopidas.2140

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Posted by: Moss.5371

Moss.5371

Monk

There was already once a class with this name in GW1, and it was almost purely supportive and designed for healing. Anet clearly wanted to give the guardian an aggressive ranged option for combat. Monks were never about range or pure DPS.

Not true… Not only, but as an example Smite/RoJ builds were very high dps.

While I also don’t like many of the other names you argument against, your arguments are hardly valid.

re: christianism
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Fallen_Angels
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Saint_Viktor /and Kurzick imagery in general

Could go on. Point is anet has historically adopted terminology from many different places. You like dragonhunter? That’s fine. Many of us just feel it’s cheap and inappropiate.

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Fashion Mage.3712

New Weapon: The bow – one of the greatest, most iconic hunting tools in the history of the human race

New Skill category: Traps – one of the most essential hunting tools in the history of the human race.

The Enemy: Elder Dragons – the ultimate peril of the world of Tyria. If we do not strive against them with our every breath, all will die.

New Profession: The Dragon Hunter – “I take the tools of the hunter and turn them against the foes that must be fought. For the good of all.”

The name wasn’t picked out of a hat… Its a graceful bit of shorthand both summing up and evoking many elements the profession encompasses.

Longbows are more well known for their military use, not hunting (if they’re ever used for hunting). Additionally, the guardian’s longbow seems pretty supportive.

How exactly does the focus in light magic and the angelic imagery tie in with “Dragonhunter”?

By your logic, why aren’t rangers also called Dragonhunters?

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