Guild Wars 2

WvW has been decimated, but luckily there are no more queues and when everything is capped we play on on EBG, as there is no rewards fighting -no-one- on the borders.
The map is beautiful and could have been epic… probelm is guilds do no longer have acces to buffs, or players. Most WvW players feel betrayed, and ignored. as they warned A-net 3 fold at least…. After each wvw-beta!

PvP… I find E-sports commercials all over the web, BE legendary, join GW2 PvP… Problem? It’s very nice you can earn 1000’s of dollars playing an unbalanced game with a clear meta… which has had (balancing) problems since launch… which -no-one- outside the pvp community cares for except for some people on staff at A-net and the people smiling who drag away the cash. No viewers, no interest from the remainder of the worlds populace.. I do not care for PvP. I loved WvW though, I’m still wondering why PvP and WvW were given different rewards… if it would have been the same, some problems wwould have been avoided…

Dungeons… you know the unbalanced stuff still littering the landscape, which had no real support since ~a year after launch, except for a very long unrewarding path with keys you needed to farm throughout the world in PvE….
They were unbalanced and FUN. At least to me, I enjoyed running AC Fulll for 1000 days straight with some COF 1,2 and SE 1,3 added for flavoring, on relaxed days I added TA and CoE to maximize my enjoyment of thisgame and did some Cursed shore or (later) Silverwastes to get nice gear for fractals…..
RIP dungeons 2012-2015

Fractals were nice long duration games with no real guess what would be spawning always causing a decent surprise, somtimes good, sometimes bad… at lvl 50 people got good drops… But…. well getting good drops should be nerfed, and Fractals being a dungeon was striped from rewards, and it’s renowned randomness
The opening to the masses who repeated easy fractals again and again and again to level up faster then the Saturnus V went to the moon trivialized this nice piece of content…
Well they are not dead yet, but the pulse is faint…

So we got more Event maps…
After Hirathi Hinterlands (Centaur battles), Fields of Ruin (Ogre battles) and Orr (Risen battles), Dry Top (mostly battling yourself in the end…) and Silverwastes (Mordrem battles)
We now got Verdant brink (Mordrem battles), Auric Basin (Octovine: Mordrem battles), Tangled Depths (Chak battles? No: Mordrem battles!) and last but not least the epic battlle versus Mordremoths Lieutenant (Wanna guess? Yeah! Mordrem!) in Dragon’s stand… Yes….,yes…, well yeah…, ye, ow… why bother….?
Well…. some are nice, some are okay and some are useless…

As for world bosses: we got …. Nothing really, as the bosses now are behind a huge chain of events, and your activity in these events will determine your reward…. All others, the classics, still respawn on their respective timers day in and day out….
Tequatl might not be more epic then Dragons Stand , it is way more accesible… and still has it’s own armor skin(s), as has the Tri Wurm…
I used to do few World bosses… but Sometimes it was a welcome change of pace..

Luckily: My bank guild with 3 ppl in it has all former WvW players and we cannot even pay the 100 gold (well we might have it available, but why in the name of dwayna would we want to?) to cap it, nor have the influence to start the event…. so…. we will not get a hall.. Come to think of it we will not be able to build anything afterwards either….
I used my bank guild to build banners, guild cata’s, +5 supply and some other bonusses..
Now I cannot…. Why not?… Are so many players not worthy to use upgrades?

SO I play on to find I am now obligated to play PvP to be allowed my next legendaries, and I will certainly get much WXP now in WVW without any players so my legendaries are all in the box … Yes we need everything reworked so it will be better….. or will it? I have seen no real improvement….

And raids… Guild missions are cancelled in our guild, the hard core is raiding leaving us with 8 ppl from 175 to do guild missions and 2 groups of 10 are enjoying their fails on the Vale Guardian… putting in dozens of hours for 4 gold….
Love raids, hate the frustration, and the costs…

Yes It has been a perfect storm, quake, tsunami, vulcanic eruption, meteorstrike, famine, plague and firestorm all rolled into one showing us it will now can only go up from now on….
Might be a bit worse yet…

As all things which were, are now: no more and the remains of the populace are now farming mats, farming events, farming otherwise and Raiding for minimal income saying it is all better now….

And still people say well it’s perfect… I love your determination…., or fanatism…., and is it just my problem?

I’m still wondering : “WTF happened here?” Of the 80 people in our WvW and PvX guild who have bought HoT 50+ are no longer playing….. or just logging in for dailies…. This second group isn’t inactive, but is no longer playing either… most are completely dissillusioned and let down by the events participated in the last weeks…

Most of these players were WvW players the ones remaining are the fanatics, most of these do the raids now and some are fed up with it. some are tryin to do some new events or trying to find new light in unlocking masteries and elites specs,, but I am no longer hearing the shouts of joy or amazement… Just frustration and detachment…

Group play…..
Guild missions are no longer for the guild as people, just for the guild as an object, no longer supporting the guild as group… And as such we no longer run these as a guild…
I as the officer in my guild have seen the problems,, and for the PvP guild missions.. wel doing ’m with 40 ppl at once is a problem, PvE missions are bugged, no rewards= no people and for WvW… well they are truly, and I really mean truly uninteresting.

We will see… HoT is live…. and dying…. at least for me, I find myself in vanilla again… less frequent, very, very shaken by the scale of the multifold disaster, still unfolding.

New stats, food nerfs… no stat selection after invalidation of stats… lists are long….. Frustrations are big…..

No solo play…. at least no outside story or farming HP, or masteries in HoT

No gold =>
no travel,
no food,
no gear,
no mats,
no crafting,
no fun
no reason to play,
no progression,
no reward,
no player(s),
no purchases,
no revenue,
no game,
no A-net,
no jobs,
no money,
no travel,
no food,
…..

I hope you’ll make amends… And I hope you’ll understand who I’m adressing here.

I’m hoping, too. But I think this will take months to fix and I won’t even do dailies until then because maybe it will be 18 months. Then again, maybe their game stats will shake up their assumptions.

It’s sad but i agree.

I’ve seen entire wvw guilds leave wvw and people relocating to pve or pvp due to the new borderlands.
While i love the design of the HoT maps, i can’t help but wonder how they will work when they’ll become deserted. Some people have already farmed whatever they could out of them and only come back occasionally or not at all.

kolompi.1287:

It’s sad but i agree.

I’ve seen entire wvw guilds leave wvw and people relocating to pve or pvp due to the new borderlands.
While i love the design of the HoT maps, i can’t help but wonder how they will work when they’ll become deserted. Some people have already farmed whatever they could out of them and only come back occasionally or not at all.

I don’t think they will work at all. Judging from my previous experience with the parent company that is behind every business decision for this game as well I assume it will go down the same direction – it will be either removed from the game, or not improved and kept for RMTs and scripters who keep their games “alive”. NCSoft doesn’t give a rat’s kitten about whether you enjoy content, otherwise there wouldn’t be so much imbalance either.

Dungeons, as I’ve heard, are going to be completely removed, and the team behind them might’ve already been disbanded. The same might happen to Borderlands. Sure one would think “why did they add them if they want to remove them, makes no sense” – to them everything that is a gold sink for us makes sense.

Everything is aimed only towards new content which after a while gets boring in its tediousness, because after you do it you do what? That’s right, the new design gets you bored quickly because you can’t even enjoy it solo, and after that you would want to go back to some other part of the game, but most of the previous content is crippled in favour of the expansion (dungeons e.g. are a good example, instead of receiving balancing patches and better rewards, some rework, they have been crippled completely and nobody does them; I can’t get a decent group in WvW lately. Before it was crawling with people, now we are constantly outnumbered.).

There goes GW2.

Inoki.6048:

Dungeons, as I’ve heard, are going to be completely removed, and the team behind them might’ve already been disbanded.

Where did you hear this?

Majic.4801:

Inoki.6048:

Dungeons, as I’ve heard, are going to be completely removed, and the team behind them might’ve already been disbanded.

Where did you hear this?

In the game. Everybody’s talking about it. I think it was talked about on Reddit.

I completed 3 of the maps, for gifts and only stll need dragon’s stand…

I need some more strongboxes, for some more masteries, but they are HoT only so I’m not bothering. I have ley line gliding, can use speed mushrooms and have stealth detection… and can use exalted support… I have most things done, except a few only for achievements I’ll likely never finish.

When looking at HoT:
+ interesting specialisations, some are actually nice
+ interesting mechnics, I like the mastery system to a certain point.
+ a little piece of story… no added comment.
+ beautiful maps you can get lost in… unfortunately getting lost tends to kill me as well….
+ revenant isn’t very epic… herald is a bit better but still not as epic as mot others… still it’s an addition.
- most metaevents are slow to cycle on a timer and require some people to be there, as a consequence we have a lot of taxi-ing….
- some metaevents are… well…, hard to do and need decent scaling, but lack it..
- Raids have destroyed my guild… My WvW/PvX guild has deteriorated in a PvP/Raid mess.
- Guild missions are Out-Of-Order
- Fractals is no longer special
- dungeon income was nerfed
- all other gold ingame was nerfed
- active merchandising to buy gold from Anet
- PvP still seems to be the #1 goal for Anet, even though most play PvE
- WvW is destroyed due to the guilds no longer can afford upgrades
- Guild hall… yes all instances of it… is mostly used to mine.. the fact it’s multiple instances destroys any social benefits and causes problems… Well luckily you do not see this with your personal bank…
- Guild upgrades are now locked behind a HUGE paywall
- Small guilds have been trivialized. you will have problems obtaining and filling your guildhall and eting your upgrades to a point where you can once again benefit wvw/PvE and yourselves..
- New stat introduction allows for boon duration and condition duration in PvE, Problem: it invalidated a lot of players condition gear in WvW or PvE… to reaquire this gear WvW players are forced to play PvE or suffer DoT loss compared to other players… luckily as havoc and roamers no longer are effective this probelm resoved itself by the affected WVW players leaving gw2. in PvE however I noticed I lost my runes from 4 armors ( aristocracy x2, strength x2 and I don’t have the wish to replace those.in effect I lost 156 gold jus deleting those runes by restatting the armor whcih they were on. this doesn’t acccount for money lost by making the needed inscriptions and insignia’s nor the loss of sigils…
- Stacking sigils and raids… well you’ll be killing only a few bosses in the end effectively trivializing and stacking sigils… You’ll do great with force, bursting and malice.. They all are 12+ gold. making reequipping weapons a lot more expensive then expected.

In the end I worry if I’m too pessimistic. But I think this list details my experience with HoT..

As for dungeons: the Dungeon team was disbanded after the introduction of the aetherblade path in TA.
As for fractals: the Devs only reused content to make the newest fractals (these revamps used to be part of the instanced pieces of LS S1, no new content appeard after this. )
As for raids: even if it would be the new way of instanced content how in earth do you think people will react to only getting rewards once every week…. (and we are getting bonus values atm…., rewards will be halved for this wing in 2-3 months)

Inoki.6048:

Majic.4801:

Inoki.6048:

Dungeons, as I’ve heard, are going to be completely removed, and the team behind them might’ve already been disbanded.

Where did you hear this?

In the game. Everybody’s talking about it. I think it was talked about on Reddit.

For something “everybody” is supposedly talking about, I’m not able to find anything written down via Google, the Dungeon forum or the GW2 reddit.

Got links?

In b4 thread gets deleted for saying anything that is truthful.

twhite.9310:

In b4 thread gets deleted for saying anything that is truthful.

Can your spam…

Majic.4801:

Inoki.6048:

Majic.4801:

Inoki.6048:

Dungeons, as I’ve heard, are going to be completely removed, and the team behind them might’ve already been disbanded.

Where did you hear this?

In the game. Everybody’s talking about it. I think it was talked about on Reddit.

For something “everybody” is supposedly talking about, I’m not able to find anything written down via Google, the Dungeon forum or the GW2 reddit.

Got links?

PaxTheGreatOne.9472:

As for dungeons: the Dungeon team was disbanded after the introduction of the aetherblade path in TA.
As for fractals: the Devs only reused content to make the newest fractals (these revamps used to be part of the instanced pieces of LS S1, no new content appeard after this. )

I sincerely doubt new dungeon being added ever as it stand now…. and I find raids an unworthy replacement. Though raids are the first new instanced (non-story) content… after the release of fractals and the TA aetherblade horror

twhite.9310:

In b4 thread gets deleted for saying anything that is truthful.

PaxTheGreatOne.9472:

twhite.9310:

In b4 thread gets deleted for saying anything that is truthful.

Can your spam…

He is actually right. It’s not possible to post any links on these boards because they would most likely get deleted for obvious reasons, which is why people discuss stuff in other places (like Reddit) as well.

Majic.4801:

Inoki.6048:

Majic.4801:

Inoki.6048:

Dungeons, as I’ve heard, are going to be completely removed, and the team behind them might’ve already been disbanded.

Where did you hear this?

In the game. Everybody’s talking about it. I think it was talked about on Reddit.

For something “everybody” is supposedly talking about, I’m not able to find anything written down via Google, the Dungeon forum or the GW2 reddit.

Got links?

Gosh, this happened a long while ago.. like back during Flame and Frost. Of course the search function on this forum doesn’t work. :/ There’s this old reddit thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/1zt5wl/what_ever_happened_to_dungeons/ in which someone quotes “we will disband the dungeon team and incorporate them into living world so that dungeons would be updated as the story passed through.” They didn’t reference it though, sadly. Everyone’s not talking about.. anymore.. as it’s old news.

There is quite a difference between not making more dungeons and deciding to remove the existing ones. There is not much to be gained by removing content but, if they do so, please can I have the mastery point I would have got if I’d done the dungeons. ;p

PaxTheGreatOne.9472:

WvW has been decimated

A reduction of 10% hardly seems huge … what .. ah, I knew you didn’t know what decimated means.

Hint: as many words have done in recent times its meaning has been warped to something entirely different from what it originally meant .. kind of like ‘hotfix’.

Kraggy.4169:

Hint: as many words have done in recent times its meaning has been warped to something entirely different from what it originally meant .. kind of like ‘hotfix’.

That’s how language works. It evolves based on use.

In current usage, decimate means, “kill, destroy, or remove a large percentage or part of.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etymological_fallacy

Kraggy.4169:

PaxTheGreatOne.9472:

WvW has been decimated

A reduction of 10% hardly seems huge … what .. ah, I knew you didn’t know what decimated means.

Hint: as many words have done in recent times its meaning has been warped to something entirely different from what it originally meant .. kind of like ‘hotfix’.

Decimate originally meant to reduce by 10%? That makes perfect sense, but I did not know that, lol. Thanks!

Well to decimate means roughly this:

To punish mutineers or any other soldiers/members from a group by executing every 10th person, as not to lose the whole army/group… (as taken from an ancient military handbook 1800’s),

BUT,

In modern times the word has been used in the same way as “to eridicate”, “to thin out” and “to kill off” (modern (Dutch) dictionary)

The modern version seems way more applicable.

As I translate, of course this could cause errors.. but still.. My point should be made. The fact the changes leeding up to this seem more like punishment seems only fitting tbh..

PaxTheGreatOne.9472:

Majic.4801:

Inoki.6048:

Majic.4801:

Inoki.6048:

Dungeons, as I’ve heard, are going to be completely removed, and the team behind them might’ve already been disbanded.

Where did you hear this?

In the game. Everybody’s talking about it. I think it was talked about on Reddit.

For something “everybody” is supposedly talking about, I’m not able to find anything written down via Google, the Dungeon forum or the GW2 reddit.

Got links?

PaxTheGreatOne.9472:

As for dungeons: the Dungeon team was disbanded after the introduction of the aetherblade path in TA.
As for fractals: the Devs only reused content to make the newest fractals (these revamps used to be part of the instanced pieces of LS S1, no new content appeard after this. )

I sincerely doubt new dungeon being added ever as it stand now…. and I find raids an unworthy replacement. Though raids are the first new instanced (non-story) content… after the release of fractals and the TA aetherblade horror

I was just asking about this claim:

Inoki.6048:

Dungeons, as I’ve heard, are going to be completely removed, and the team behind them might’ve already been disbanded.

Is there some evidence you can provide that ArenaNet actually plans to remove dungeons?

That shouldn’t be a difficult question to answer if the claim is true.

Absent evidence, all that’s left is FUD.

What are the two most important things in an MMO? In order they are PvP balance and economic health. Some great things were done for the economy such as giving T5 silk and leather value way beyond vendor price, but nerf dungeons and don’t have rewards proportional to difficulty in the newer zones.

As for PvP the meta gets shaken up every so often, and it’s good that we’re seeing new mechanics added to classes, but scrappers, revenants, and reapers dominate way too much compared to other classes and AoE spam obsoletes previous roles and strategies. At this point Anet is well aware of their critical faults at least on the PvP balance front.

They should segregate PvP and PvE so abilities have different powers and times in both but that’d make too much sense. That way revenant and reapers could still be viable for raiding while being more in line with other classes in PvP. Does a class have poor group utility and no viable AoE attacks while being squishy? Then give them lots of damage to make up for it. Is something tanky with great utility, healing, and control? Take some off damage, or kitten the utility, control, and healing abilities when speccing for pure damage (well, kitten at baseline but make the non-damage utilities great when traited).

OP welcome to horse dung grindwars 2. Since HOT I play less and less, this mini xpack was not worth $50. I don’t know how the hell they could came up with so many dumb ideas. Its like they don`t care if HOT was going to be first and last gw2 xpack. What is most disturbing is that they took big disrespecting dump on www players. Since i got gw2 xpack I find myself more and more looking for new mmo with www game mode. Sadly Camelot unchained is probably years away from release. If I didn’t have one last friend left in gw2 I would probably stop playing.

ps. Pardon my English, it is not my native language.