Guild Wars 2

I think this is an excellent suggestion.

This would ameliorate a lot of the discontent that have struck the existing player base. What has made these people mad is the thought that they will receive less value for their money than new players. Offering them some additional value to offset this perceived waste would solve most of the problem.

This could take the form of something a new player would not miss, or would already receive as part of the base game. A character slot is perfect, because of the new Revenant profession. Although about 800 gems (the price of an additional character slot) would also work.

Supported for the reasons above!

Yes, that would sit much better with me. bump!

And then you’ll get justified complaints from the Deluxe buyers, who will claim the main reason they paid more was the slot, and they don’t think their mini Rytlock is worth that much now. You could offer them 2 slots, but they could still say they only need one for the new class.

It’s pretty much too late now.

RabbitUp.8294:

And then you’ll get justified complaints from the Deluxe buyers, who will claim the main reason they paid more was the slot, and they don’t think their mini Rytlock is worth that much now.

It’s pretty much too late now.

Perhaps 800 gems is the way to go, then.

Those who own the game already and get the Standard edition would get 800 gems (which they could use to buy a character slot for their new Revenant).

Those who own the game already and get the Deluxe edition would get the character slot and 800 gems (which they could spend on other things, like new skins/outfits, or a character slot for their 2nd Revenant).

RabbitUp.8294:

And then you’ll get justified complaints from the Deluxe buyers, who will claim the main reason they paid more was the slot, and they don’t think their mini Rytlock is worth that much now. You could offer them 2 slots, but they could still say they only need one for the new class.

It’s pretty much too late now.

Why would you pay 15$ more for a 10$ characterslot? If you paid that much more for the slot and the junk, anet could just give those people 800 gems. Or just make the option “Base game, Character slot, or 800 gems”

Who says we only need two options?
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If the original good ol’ fashioned ArenaNet has taught us anything up until now, its how to take a community of utterly random people and get them to work together to accomplish something in mass that no other pug community could ever accomplish. From world bosses, to Silverwastes, I’ve seen 100+ man groups doing things coordinated naturaly in ways I’ve never thought possible.

Heres the new boss guys, its Arenanet. And if you complete this Dynamic Event, the reward could be everything you wanted from this expansion and so much more.. All we have to do is work together to show arenanet that were not complaining or griping about prices, but fairness and equal oppurtinuity.

So whos with me? Lets see how many pugs can work together on this one..

I vote this is a good idea: 800 Gems, A Character slot, or the base game choice with all packages.

All in favor? Show me the I’s..

There is no need to offer a character slot as a separate option. 800 gems is exactly the cost of a character slot in the gemstore. Those who want a character slot can just take the 800 gems and buy the slot.

The gems bonus is how they would have to do it given that they have already sold copies. I can guarantee that people who mainly bought the more expensive versions for the character slot will be miffed.

the standard edition of the expansion should at least give +1 character slot. for $49.99, come on. in GW1 Nightfall and Factions you got extra character slots, because those add-ons gave access to two new profession each. they had to accommodate you because the main point of the add-on is to try out the new professions.

in this new HoT add-on, you get one new profession, so they should at least throw you a bone and give you one new character slot for a Revenant. the fact that $49.99 doesn’t let you play a Revenant, unless you kick down for 800 gems for a new character slot, is just weak.

let the new players get the base game + HoT for $49.99, but let the existing players get +1 character slot instead. having to throw down $74.99 for HoT plus a character slot and some worthless digital swag is just absurd.

Or let us buy HoT with gems since people like making the “gold for slot” argument.

Blackworm.2167:

Or let us buy HoT with gems since people like making the “gold for slot” argument.

Anyone making the gold for slot argument will be sorely mistaken that it holds any ground when release day comes out, and 1,000 people buy characterslots with gold and the inflation makes 100 gems worth 2,000 gold. Do you remember when they made the black wings? Gems went from like 30 gold for 600 to like 90.. Thats THREE TIMES the cost in inflation! And that was only for a skin!

People wont be able to AFFORD gold for a character slot unless they could also afford to buy a legendary off the TC with gold..

This “extra slot or base game” a good idea. They should definitely give a character slot no matter what for players that already have the GW2 base game. Because let’s face it, how many are going to be sitting on an unused character slot if you’ve already been playing the game? (my guess is almost none)
Players that are coming in fresh can get both games together, and won’t necessarily need an extra slot. But if we already have the base game, it should just automatically give us a free extra slot instead when we purchase any version of HoT.

Bitoku Kishi.8346:

This “extra slot or base game” a good idea. They should definitely give a character slot no matter what for players that already have the GW2 base game. Because let’s face it, how many are going to be sitting on an unused character slot if you’ve already been playing the game? (my guess is almost none)
Players that are coming in fresh can get both games together, and won’t necessarily need an extra slot. But if we already have the base game, it should just automatically give us a free extra slot instead when we purchase any version of HoT.

Some people really are sitting on an extra character slot. The 800 gems is perfect because if they are, the free slot means nothing to them. But 800 gems is.. 800 gems.. lol

You cant go wrong with the 800 gems. If your a new player you choose the core game, if your a veteran player with an open character slot, you get a free 800 gems, and if your a vet player without a character slot, you buy a characterslot with the 800 gems. Everyone wins, no one gets angry with getting ripped off. And best of all, it costs Anet NOTHING to do this fix. They dont have to change any pre-existing orders, refund anyone anything, or go back on their word. They just have to hand out the option to get one thing or the other.

Raven.3957:

Bitoku Kishi.8346:

This “extra slot or base game” a good idea. They should definitely give a character slot no matter what for players that already have the GW2 base game. Because let’s face it, how many are going to be sitting on an unused character slot if you’ve already been playing the game? (my guess is almost none)
Players that are coming in fresh can get both games together, and won’t necessarily need an extra slot. But if we already have the base game, it should just automatically give us a free extra slot instead when we purchase any version of HoT.

Some people really are sitting on an extra character slot. The 800 gems is perfect because if they are, the free slot means nothing to them. But 800 gems is.. 800 gems.. lol

You cant go wrong with the 800 gems. If your a new player you choose the core game, if your a veteran player with an open character slot, you get a free 800 gems, and if your a vet player without a character slot, you buy a characterslot with the 800 gems. Everyone wins, no one gets angry with getting ripped off. And best of all, it costs Anet NOTHING to do this fix. They dont have to change any pre-existing orders, refund anyone anything, or go back on their word. They just have to hand out the option to get one thing or the other.

Even though this idea is better than the current state of things, I have to wonder how the value of the base game ($50) equates to the value of 800 gems ($10).
Newcomers still get a vastly better deal, no matter which way you spin it.
To make it equal, the 4000 gems ($50) included in the $100 bundle is what we should really be getting. We already paid the other (mandatory) $50.

That way it’s $50 for HoT (Like everyone), $50 for something (gems) rather than nothing (taking the place of our now-invalidated GW2 purchase), and $0 for GW2 since it’s now free.

Blackworm.2167:

Raven.3957:

Bitoku Kishi.8346:

This “extra slot or base game” a good idea. They should definitely give a character slot no matter what for players that already have the GW2 base game. Because let’s face it, how many are going to be sitting on an unused character slot if you’ve already been playing the game? (my guess is almost none)
Players that are coming in fresh can get both games together, and won’t necessarily need an extra slot. But if we already have the base game, it should just automatically give us a free extra slot instead when we purchase any version of HoT.

Some people really are sitting on an extra character slot. The 800 gems is perfect because if they are, the free slot means nothing to them. But 800 gems is.. 800 gems.. lol

You cant go wrong with the 800 gems. If your a new player you choose the core game, if your a veteran player with an open character slot, you get a free 800 gems, and if your a vet player without a character slot, you buy a characterslot with the 800 gems. Everyone wins, no one gets angry with getting ripped off. And best of all, it costs Anet NOTHING to do this fix. They dont have to change any pre-existing orders, refund anyone anything, or go back on their word. They just have to hand out the option to get one thing or the other.

Even though this idea is better than the current state of things, I have to wonder how the value of the base game ($50) equates to the value of 800 gems ($10).
Newcomers still get a vastly better deal, no matter which way you spin it.
To make it equal, the 4000 gems ($50) included in the $100 bundle is what we should really be getting. We already paid the other (mandatory) $50.

That way it’s $50 for HoT (Like everyone), $50 for something (gems) rather than nothing (taking the place of our now-invalidated GW2 purchase), and $0 for GW2 since it’s now free.

Gw2 core game is not going to be free forever. Devs have already posted that its only being included free currently as part of the pre-purchase deal. Eventually the core game will cost XX$ and the HoT expansion will cost 50$

The issue here and now isnt that 50$ for just the expansion is too much, its that new comers are getting amazing deals on buying the expansion, and the veteran players are paying 50$, then having to pay an additional 10$, paying 60$ total for the same content that newbies are paying 50$ for. It should be the other way around, and it would have been that way if they didnt include the core game for free. Because then people would have bought (like many did) the Gw2 Core while it was on sale for 10$, then 50 for the expansion. Meaning everyone paid 60$ to play HoT in the end. Not favoring anyone one way or the other. This blaintent favoring of new players and punishing the old ones is whats gotten everyone’s panties in a bunch.

Adding 800 gems to the standard and deluxe packages is the best option I’ve heard out of all the ranting on the internet. I sincerely hope they go with this option, and if they do, I’ll buy the standard package immediately.

ZaidDyan.3057:

Seems like a simple solution. I’d happily pay $50 for expansion +1 slot as a vet. A new player gets great value by getting the base + HoT and has 5 empty slots to work with. But let me choose!

Simplest and best solution. #Winning

yeah, just add the slot or 800 gems that will make everyone happy

Raven.3957:

Blackworm.2167:

Raven.3957:

Bitoku Kishi.8346:

This “extra slot or base game” a good idea. They should definitely give a character slot no matter what for players that already have the GW2 base game. Because let’s face it, how many are going to be sitting on an unused character slot if you’ve already been playing the game? (my guess is almost none)
Players that are coming in fresh can get both games together, and won’t necessarily need an extra slot. But if we already have the base game, it should just automatically give us a free extra slot instead when we purchase any version of HoT.

Some people really are sitting on an extra character slot. The 800 gems is perfect because if they are, the free slot means nothing to them. But 800 gems is.. 800 gems.. lol

You cant go wrong with the 800 gems. If your a new player you choose the core game, if your a veteran player with an open character slot, you get a free 800 gems, and if your a vet player without a character slot, you buy a characterslot with the 800 gems. Everyone wins, no one gets angry with getting ripped off. And best of all, it costs Anet NOTHING to do this fix. They dont have to change any pre-existing orders, refund anyone anything, or go back on their word. They just have to hand out the option to get one thing or the other.

Even though this idea is better than the current state of things, I have to wonder how the value of the base game ($50) equates to the value of 800 gems ($10).
Newcomers still get a vastly better deal, no matter which way you spin it.
To make it equal, the 4000 gems ($50) included in the $100 bundle is what we should really be getting. We already paid the other (mandatory) $50.

That way it’s $50 for HoT (Like everyone), $50 for something (gems) rather than nothing (taking the place of our now-invalidated GW2 purchase), and $0 for GW2 since it’s now free.

Gw2 core game is not going to be free forever. Devs have already posted that its only being included free currently as part of the pre-purchase deal. Eventually the core game will cost XX$ and the HoT expansion will cost 50$

The issue here and now isnt that 50$ for just the expansion is too much, its that new comers are getting amazing deals on buying the expansion, and the veteran players are paying 50$, then having to pay an additional 10$, paying 60$ total for the same content that newbies are paying 50$ for. It should be the other way around, and it would have been that way if they didnt include the core game for free. Because then people would have bought (like many did) the Gw2 Core while it was on sale for 10$, then 50 for the expansion. Meaning everyone paid 60$ to play HoT in the end. Not favoring anyone one way or the other. This blaintent favoring of new players and punishing the old ones is whats gotten everyone’s panties in a bunch.

A lot of text. But none of it fixes the false advertising claim users legitimately have.

I like the 800 gem variant. However they’d need to add this or similar options to all three packages, or else the value of the $75 and $100 packages become diluted.

Perhaps they could add something vets would value more than a slot to deluxe & ultimate – e.g. x% account MF. Because let’s be honest – most vets can source the slot with gold. But another 5-10% account MF would be very nice.

And it’s never too late. They can always send chests out to anyone who’s already purchased the expansion with more gems or other compensation items if they rebalance all three rewards. They have the system, as anyone who got a heroic chest from the last beta knows.

Bitoku Kishi.8346:

Gw2 core game is not going to be free forever. Devs have already posted that its only being included free currently as part of the pre-purchase deal. Eventually the core game will cost XX$ and the HoT expansion will cost 50$

Can we get a source on this please? I’ve seen this claim made in only one other place (WP’s most recent vid on youtube) and as far as I can find there is nothing to support it.

In fact, if you try to buy just the core game now, you cannot! The only way people can buy the core game is bundled together with HoT. There is no word anywhere on this being temporary, but I think it makes it even more obvious why existing players feel like they are being strong-armed into buying a bundled version of the expansion that is irrelevant to them.

We are, in fact, being asked to re-purchase the game, as evidenced by the fact that to buy HoT we have to buy the product bundle that the GW2 website itself is marketing as the (only) way to buy the game—the core game—at all.

There is something that consumers (vet players included) are entitled to: fair business dealings. We are entitled to not being duped, and we are entitled to a basic level of transparency about what we are buying! This is not it. This is swindling. It’s duplicitous and dishonest to try and convince us that we’re buying X (an expansion for a game) when we can see we’re buying Y (a bundled package of expansion with base game).