New armor skins
I’d really like to hear from the studio why they think outfits should exist, instead of releasing them as armour so we can actually mix them up.
The worst part is the outfits are often times better designed than armour. The blatant greed is pretty disgusting to be honest.
Of course outfits are better designed, it is a no-brainer really. Outfits are a single piece that you can design as a whole seamless entity. Armor on the other hand has different parts that have to work together, it is much harder to design an armor than an outfit. Armor has limitations that outfits don’t have so you have more creative freedom when designing them.
Granted that some outfits could as well be armor, but the whole point of outfits is that they are supposed to be cooler than armor skins. Of course Anet wants ppl to buy them, and who would buy them if they weren’t cool?
If you are referring to the armor skins that they sell in gem shop (almost wrote Gem Stop here
), would you rather buy 3 sets for 3 different weights or have one that fits all? What I think anet is doing (and what they should do) is that they release outfits when they have a vision that can’t be realized as an armor skin (due to the limitations mentioned earlier).
One thing Anet doesn’t do that often is to allow the same armor skin to be worn on any armour weight toon. They only have hats and stuff that work that way, I think they should make a whole set that works on any class and is not an outfit. Personally I wouldn’t buy gemstore skins that work on single armor weight only and cost as much as outfits.
My question would be why gem store armor sets should exist and why they are a good idea? Of course if you have the buck to buy armor set in 3 different weights then I suppose they are a good idea, but then again isn’t that greedy on Anet’s part?
TL:DR:
Anet shoud release gem store armor sets that can be worn on any class regardless of armor weight. Kinda like modular outfits.
{Lepus Timidus}
I’d really like to hear from the studio why they think outfits should exist, instead of releasing them as armour so we can actually mix them up.
The worst part is the outfits are often times better designed than armour. The blatant greed is pretty disgusting to be honest.
Here is what Curtis Johnson had to say about why they choose this system.
Source (page 18).
“We do understand and sincerely apologize that there are creative combinations of town clothes that will not exist anymore. Many have asked why remove town clothes as a concept. It boils down to we believe better armor skinning and the outfit system is something we can add more options to more often and will produce a better supported RP game for everyone with more variety in the future. In short, a healthier game.
To expand more on what I mean by better support, It helps if you think of town clothes as a 4th weight class of armor. Clothing was meant to offer visual options that break the class roles, however we were never completely happy with the way it was isolated from the rest of the game and still felt largely the same. Many pieces could have easily been mistaken for light or medium armor. In many ways it was more akin to building an alt character because town-clothes and armor were so separated. Additionally, every time we added something to town-clothes, it didn’t really help someone building their light, medium, or heavy look. And there was no way to add combat gear fairly without creating 3 versions on the back end (light, medium, and heavy). As a customization platform and sustainable expansion design it left a lot to be desired.
When we started looking at bringing more of the clothing back into armor with mix and match styles there are some fundamental incompatible things between weight classes. (part of how we set up every armor to allow many dye channels and styles per piece).. There really is no way at this point over six years since we started development to make absolutely everything work together. So we needed something new to continue to grow in the future.
Outfits give us a way to create highly stylized looks that aren’t constrained to armor slots or weight class. In addition to armor skins that are easier and cheaper to collect across characters and the account dye system we do believe the options across a players whole account are much more attractive now. You’ll see more outfits coming out this summer and additions to the game more often usable by your characters. We try not to allow too much ‘hoarder’ design where we just keep stacking more and more options on leaving lots of unsupported things hanging around. Yes, we do have to give up some of our current closet space and clothing to fit the new wardrobe in. Again, apologies for that.
As always we ask you to try out the new system of customization and see what’s available to you. I think many people will be surprised by how many pieces have become armor compatible. We hope the benefits to the outfit system and wardrobe in terms of future support and additions will be clear, and you can look forward to more new outfits coming very soon."
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Comment about armor
Regina BGimmeSylvariHi ! Will there ever be any official armor design contests?
Armor is one of the most expensive things in the game to create. Armor is complicated and needs to be created with many considerations in mind, and these considerations may not be easily apparent or describable to fan armor designers. It isn’t a bad idea to run a contest like this, but it’s many orders more involved than other types of contests, which may be a better use of our limited development and marketing resources. We always have to weigh the pros and cons of any type of contest based on our marketing goals. (snip)
Be careful what you ask for
ANet may give it to you.
ANet may give it to you.
“You keep saying ‘its unfair.’
I wonder what your basis for comparison is…”
- Jareth, King of Goblins.
I wonder what your basis for comparison is…”
- Jareth, King of Goblins.
John Smith: “you should kill monsters, because killing monsters is awesome.”
Here’s the funny thing about work: it has value.
When you try to sell something that takes only an hour instead of 10 hours (using their ratios), it shows.
A set of armor is something I can tinker with and experiment with and ENJOY for hours.
An outfit you either put it one or take it off. Done. Bored now. Never going to buy one of these ever again.
Can I have a source for that? I searched several sites and was unable to locate a 10 to one ratio.
Check the quote from O’Brien in https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Dev-quotes-from-Reddit/page/3#post6023796
Ty. I’ve been searching all over for that quote for a day or two. Found it and It was in my thread.
I’m going to blame it on my glasses.
Be careful what you ask for
ANet may give it to you.
ANet may give it to you.
(edited by Just a flesh wound.3589)
“You keep saying ‘its unfair.’
I wonder what your basis for comparison is…”
- Jareth, King of Goblins.
I wonder what your basis for comparison is…”
- Jareth, King of Goblins.
Be careful what you ask for
ANet may give it to you.
ANet may give it to you.
“Only problem with the Engineer is
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
Here’s the funny thing about work: it has value.
When you try to sell something that takes only an hour instead of 10 hours (using their ratios), it shows.
A set of armor is something I can tinker with and experiment with and ENJOY for hours.
An outfit you either put it one or take it off. Done. Bored now. Never going to buy one of these ever again.
Can I have a source for that? I searched several sites and was unable to locate a 10 to one ratio.
Check the quote from O’Brien in https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Dev-quotes-from-Reddit/page/3#post6023796
Ty. I’ve been searching all over for that quote for a day or two. Found it and It was in my thread.
I’m going to blame it on my glasses.
In your defense, it was in the middle of all the AMA stuff you were posting. So you were copy pasting like a madman, not necessarily carefully perusing.