Guild Wars 2

In addition to making CC nearly worthless, Unshakable also makes blind nearly worthless on bosses. Is this going away with the introduction of break bars?

Are you asking if blind is going away with Heart of Thorns? Well that is an easy question; no it is not.

It is simply moving to the same category as control conditions (which does make some sense as it prevents an enemy from landing their skills successfully), and it only seems right that it will help with the break bar as opposed to negating all damage output, which would be a little unbalanced come Heart of Thorns and the break bar.

With regard to “making CC nearly worthless” – you have used CC skills on world bosses in their current state, right?

Zalladi.4652:

It is simply moving to the same category as control conditions (which does make some sense as it prevents an enemy from landing their skills successfully), and it only seems right that it will help with the break bar as opposed to negating all damage output, which would be a little unbalanced come Heart of Thorns and the break bar.

That’s the bit I was asking about. Currently, on champs, blind just has a 10% chance to work, which is kind of really kittenty. I hadn’t heard that it was being changed to damage the break bar.

Captain Unusual.9163:

I hadn’t heard that it was being changed to damage the break bar.

“With the new system, we can adjust how much of the bar is removed so that a skill that stuns the enemy for several seconds does much more than an ability that briefly dazes the target, and blindness can remove an appropriate amount of the bar instead of having its own special rules.” – Source

The whole breakbar disgusts me. At first I thought it will be awesome to no longer permastun something with FB and burst everything immediately. But after playing the beta, I had to say – no this is not the solution.

Not being able to daze, stun, pull ANYTHING with a breakbar, even trashmobs with that bar, even after BREAKING the bar, made me feel totally stupid and useless with any CC. The bar should prevent permastun / freeze, yet not converting any cc out there to the same result! This is just stupid and cheap and would reduce the fun of ccing extremly!

I’d rather suggest to keep the breakbar, but after it’s broken you have a short duration of CCing the target, rather than “it gets stunned for 3 sec … wow”.

Blind, slow and weakness should work with an unbroken break bar, but with reduced effectivity! Sometimes miss, sometimes glance and only -10% or 20% casting speed.