Guild Wars 2

They can’t all be dead….can they? Surely there is a tribe somewhere….

There is one dwarf alive that you meet during the norn warrior personal story.

Other than that, they’re pretty much dead. Would have to be a big tribe to explain that the world is suddenly full of dwarves again.

There’s a living breathing dwarf? Seriously? As in dwarf the race in GW? Maybe that’s a memory or something like that, not really alive.

Because as far GW lore is concerned, all dwarves sacrificed themselves to turn into stone so they can battle the destroyers, research about how to defeat the elder dragons without worrying of getting killed. (Spoiler already here…)

Except one.

I’m fine with no Dwarves and most people are more concerned about playing as
Skirtt, Hylek, Centaurs, and Tengu. Mostly Tengu and Skritt from what I know.

I’d say Tengu is almost a certain player race in an expansion. When GW2 goes to Asian market at the latest.

Playing as Skritt would be weird, since they have a hive mind type, we could get a special buff that increased power and intellect whenever we were next to another Skritt player ^^

SPOILER

grimpiggy.6301:

I’m fine with no Dwarves and most people are more concerned about playing as
Skirtt, Hylek, Centaurs, and Tengu. Mostly Tengu and Skritt from what I know.

Skritt?!! I’d rather play Quaggan, Coo!!

Tom Gore.4035:

I’d say Tengu is almost a certain player race in an expansion. When GW2 goes to Asian market at the latest.

What the heck does that mean? O.O Almost everyone who played GW1 wants to play a tengu, it isn’t an Asian thing. Many of us are from Asean (formerly known as “South-East Asia”) and Middle-East, we are all “Asian(s)”. GW2 is the “in-thing” here.

I always wondered the same thing :o I’m sure not ALL of the dwarves stayed to sacrifice themselves. They are confident and all that, but I believe they don’t all have courage of steel. At least a few probably scurried away back to some hideout I bet you!

They’re alive, yet labeled a dying race based on the fact that they can’t reproduce

I’d take a gander and say when we do face that dragon (perhaps in an expansion?) the dwarves would make yet another appearance. Don’t hold your breath though. There’s a certain romance in having a race sacrificing themselves for the greater good of all.

I think I read somewhere saying not all dwarves underwent the rite. Mainly the Deldrimor dwarves did, but let’s remember the Stone Summit would have no interest of doing so. Let’s remember Slaver’s Exile plot taken place after the main plot of EotN is finished. In theory there may be organic dwarves somewhere, most likely the descendent of Stone Summit dwarves.

kgptzac.8419:

I think I read somewhere saying not all dwarves underwent the rite. Mainly the Deldrimor dwarves did, but let’s remember the Stone Summit would have no interest of doing so. Let’s remember Slaver’s Exile plot taken place after the main plot of EotN is finished. In theory there may be organic dwarves somewhere, most likely the descendent of Stone Summit dwarves.

I recall it being mentioned somewhere that eventually ALL Dwarves underwent the right, even the Stone Summit.

Sajuuk Khar.1509:

kgptzac.8419:

I think I read somewhere saying not all dwarves underwent the rite. Mainly the Deldrimor dwarves did, but let’s remember the Stone Summit would have no interest of doing so. Let’s remember Slaver’s Exile plot taken place after the main plot of EotN is finished. In theory there may be organic dwarves somewhere, most likely the descendent of Stone Summit dwarves.

I recall it being mentioned somewhere that eventually ALL Dwarves underwent the right, even the Stone Summit.

IIRC a bunch of stone summit fight you right before you do the rite.

Also slavers exile can only be done after you beat the game because story wise the stone summit leader duncan the black wants to use the great destroyers death as a power source.

Essentially if the stone summit are gone its because we murdered them all. Good job hero!

The stone summit should be all gone, as far as I know. And dwarves, at least in Tyria the continent, all undergone the rite at some point. Ogden is proof of that, since he was reluctant at taking it back in GW1 (he even said it in a dialogue) but he somehow in those 250 years took it. There’s the possibility that, just like human or tengu, dwarves have colonies in other places, but that’s doubtful as there are no records whatsoever of that and we know a great deal about dwarf lore.

Zenyatoo.4059:

IIRC a bunch of stone summit fight you right before you do the rite.

Also slavers exile can only be done after you beat the game because story wise the stone summit leader duncan the black wants to use the great destroyers death as a power source.

And Ogdhen stayed normal for some time to aid the heroes for awhile, but eventually, even he turned to stone.

Whatever remnants of the stone summit that existed past Duncan’s death were eventually turned.

Shael.4703:

What the heck does that mean? O.O Almost everyone who played GW1 wants to play a tengu, it isn’t an Asian thing.

Oh yes, it is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tengu

I’m not 100% positive on this because its a vauge memory but i beleef Ogden Stonehealer was talking about: him being the last dwarf that lives in the light

Now like i said i’m not sure but i think he also said something like: “the rest of my race lives deep underground fighting the dragons from below”.

Now i’m going to look at this when i’m back from work (A) but also on the wiki it states:

“As of 1325 AE, Ogden Stonehealer is the last dwarf interacting with the surface”.

But then it follows with: “and last known living dwarf”.

Source: http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Dwarf

Now this could lead to speculation that there is the possibilty of dwarfs living deep below the surface.

rambling mode on
Now i’m going on a crazy rambling brainstorm tought, the name Ogden <bold>Stonehealer</bold> might point at the fact that he can undo the curse/blessing of being transformed into stone?
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RaZaC.1963:

I’m not 100% positive on this because its a vauge memory but i beleef Ogden Stonehealer was talking about: him being the last dwarf that lives in the light

Now like i said i’m not sure but i think he also said something like: “the rest of my race lives deep underground fighting the dragons from below”.

Now i’m going to look at this when i’m back from work (A) but also on the wiki it states:

“As of 1325 AE, Ogden Stonehealer is the last dwarf interacting with the surface”.

But then it follows with: “and last known living dwarf”.

Source: http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Dwarf

Now this could lead to speculation that there is the possibilty of dwarfs living deep below the surface.

rambling mode on
Now i’m going on a crazy rambling brainstorm tought, the name Ogden <bold>Stonehealer</bold> might point at the fact that he can undo the curse/blessing of being transformed into stone?
/off

Ree Soesbee basicly confirmed that all the dwarves eventually underwent the ritual. They felt compeled to apparently.

As for Ogden, I doubt his last name has that much relivance since it was his name in GW1 prior to any dwarf turning to stone. It probably was reference to the fact he was a monk and a healer. For those who dont know Ogden was a recruitable hero in Eye of the North in GW1.

If you stick around after the norn storyline where they defend the priory you can speak with Ogden Stonehammer and he says there are more dwarves fighting deep beneath the surface

Dwarves arent dead either…they gave up their flesh and blood to become stone in GW1…they are more down in the depth of the planet now.

I’d love to see a return of the dwarfs, tho it’ll probably not happen soon.

Why is everyone questioning if dwarfs can make a comeback simply because they turned themselves to stone?

Sylvari are walking trees! Trees! The day I can tolerate walking talking bits of shrubbery is the day I can accept rocks having children!

And who really knows where baby dwarfs come from anyway? What if they have been hopping out of rocks this entire time and we just didn’t know? I mean really think about it.

You gotta keep hope alive! The day of the dwarf will come!

I hope we get to meet some of these stone dwarves though, an underground quest line would be awesome.

I’m not doubting it i’m just not sure whether it’ll be in the first expantsion, the second expantsion or the thrid expantsion ^^. Yes i’m calling it now we’ll have 3 expantsion over 3-4 year.

RaZaC.1963:

I’m not doubting it i’m just not sure whether it’ll be in the first expantsion, the second expantsion or the thrid expantsion ^^. Yes i’m calling it now we’ll have 3 expantsion over 3-4 year.

My bet is we’ll see an expansion for each dragon. So we might not see any dwarfs or dwarfy stuff till they move onto the fire dragon.

They already go a lot of Tengu stuff in the game though so we might see Tengu first.

Im playing a norn necromancer with Durmand Priory and there is one last dwarf on surface to share the tale about what happened to the rest of the dwarves which is that they are deep underground fighting primordus…So we can hope for an expansion with dwarves cause not all dwarves are dead,just busy fighting the DESTROYER.

At the end of the personal story, an NPC states there’s only one dwarf left – she’s a member of the Durmand Priory.

So it’s unlikely there will be more dwarves in an expansion.

@Karast: I really hope we don’t get 1 expansion for 1 dragon (or rather, I hope we don’t focus on only one dragon per expansion). I’m personally hoping we get 2 or 3 dragons in the first expansion (Kralk, Jormag, and possibly Primordus) – then we can go and take out other threats – like Joko, the DSD, and other lands (Cantha?).

Konig Des Todes.2086:

At the end of the personal story, an NPC states there’s only one dwarf left – she’s a member of the Durmand Priory.

So it’s unlikely there will be more dwarves in an expansion.

@Karast: I really hope we don’t get 1 expansion for 1 dragon (or rather, I hope we don’t focus on only one dragon per expansion). I’m personally hoping we get 2 or 3 dragons in the first expansion (Kralk, Jormag, and possibly Primordus) – then we can go and take out other threats – like Joko, the DSD, and other lands (Cantha?).

Well the last remaining dwarf on the surface states that the other dwarfs are fighting underground to fight or something… I’d rather beleef him

When’s this said?

Tom Gore.4035:

Shael.4703:

What the heck does that mean? O.O Almost everyone who played GW1 wants to play a tengu, it isn’t an Asian thing.

Oh yes, it is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tengu

I wasn’t referring to the tengu itself, rather the implied that only asians want to be tengus :p

RaZaC.1963:

I’m not 100% positive on this because its a vauge memory but i beleef Ogden Stonehealer was talking about: him being the last dwarf that lives in the light

Now like i said i’m not sure but i think he also said something like: “the rest of my race lives deep underground fighting the dragons from below”.

Now i’m going to look at this when i’m back from work (A) but also on the wiki it states:

“As of 1325 AE, Ogden Stonehealer is the last dwarf interacting with the surface”.

But then it follows with: “and last known living dwarf”.

Source: http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Dwarf

Makes more sense. Ogden is the last (stone) dwarf on the surface while the rest are in the bowels of the world contain the destroyers.

Konig Des Todes.2086:

At the end of the personal story, an NPC states there’s only one dwarf left – she’s a member of the Durmand Priory.

Seriously? That kind of killed the dwarf lore. We were told that all of them turned to stone, chose it, unified in it. Even the stone summit, some were killed, some also felt the need. It’s in their “DNA”, like a calling, that dwarves have to go back to being the Great Dwarf.

And if there’s a female organic dwarf… and somewhere there’s a male organic dwarf too… they can’t reproduce?

Makes this very interesting, if there is indeed an organic female dwarf living.

I think you misunderstood me Shael. The NPC is a female charr in the Priory. The last dwarf she talked about was Ogden. She never contradicts all the dwarves turning to stone – it just sounds like all of them sans Ogden has died fighting destroyers.

I don’t think they are all dead, else-wise we’d be getting swarmed with destroyers wouldn’t we? Whatever forces they were holding back would be flooding the surface world.

But if the dev’s want them to make a return they will. No matter what happens I am fairly sure we’ll see more of them. Otherwise why would they have put Ogden in as an npc. If dwarfs were gone for good there would be very little need to.

they all arent dead. they underwent the transformation in gw1 to fight the destroyers and hold them back from ever reaching the surface via means of the shiverpeak mountains. you just dont see them because they are WAY down there. im pretty sure were gonna meet them in an expansion because we need to kill primordus and im positive the dwarves are involved. ogden is the only one on the surface helping the durmand priory.

Fighting the destroyers for 200 years since Primordus’ awakening, and the Elder Dragon has managed to send his minions up to at least six different places since (Brisban Wildlands, Kessex Hills, Lornar’s Pass, Timberline Falls, Mount Maelstrom, and wherever the Destroyer of Life was in Edge of Destiny – somewhere along the Tarnished Coast near Rata Sum).

Their numbers are sure to have dwindled, so there are likely few left. Especially if Primordus ever gets more attention on the surface.

I certainly hope Kilroy is still around. If not I have to spent some time with him in GW1. Bromance forever.

BuddhaKeks.4857:

I certainly hope Kilroy is still around. If not I have to spent some time with him in GW1. Bromance forever.

I recall seeing killroy’s tomb somewhere. Surely it’s on the wiki somewhere.

Nothing is on the wiki so far, except some necklace named after him. I haven’t seen anything like this in the game myself and I certainly hope I never will.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Tomb_of_Stoneskin

Doesn’t really mean Kilroy’s tomb, could be his family’s tomb, and it’s obviously mispelled.

http://nooooooooooooooo.com/

Thank you for showing me this, Buddha. It is now favorited.

RaZaC.1963:

rambling mode on
Now i’m going on a crazy rambling brainstorm tought, the name Ogden <bold>Stonehealer</bold> might point at the fact that he can undo the curse/blessing of being transformed into stone?
/off

Hmmmm! That would be a really good way for them to bring back the Dwarves Maybe every-time a Stone Dwarf is destroyed, since that which is no longer living can-not die, the Stone-healer pioneered/discovered/developed-with-the-Priory a way to return that Dwarf’s spirit to a new statue (“body”). Hmm hmm hmm…

We could see Dwarves in the next expansion. Remember that the Guild Wars developers like to add new continents overall. Furthermore, there are a nice couple of Dwarves still alive in the caverns underneath Tyria. Almost all of them are preserved into stone though. Who knows, perhaps the Dwarves will make a great awakening in the next expansion.

Spoiler!!!!!

They are actively fighting off Destroyer’s attempt to break out into the surface far more north then where we can currently explore. I think this would create for an excellent playable race, they have the racial enemy, a great story line, and don’t tell me there isn’t some sort of magic that can turn them back from stone.

Sithaco.4673:

Spoiler!!!!!

They are actively fighting off Destroyer’s attempt to break out into the surface far more north then where we can currently explore. I think this would create for an excellent playable race, they have the racial enemy, a great story line, and don’t tell me there isn’t some sort of magic that can turn them back from stone.

Sadly, the developers have already said that the dwarves aren’t going to be a playable race, because they are trying to stay away from typical fantasy races. It’s the same reason we have the Sylvari instead of elves.

We will still probably see them as a future npc race though. Whenever we get around to going into the Depths of Tyria.

In stone = Possible ways to returning them to original form through magic.
Dead = Much fewer and lesser possible ways. Maybe none?