The Deep and the Sea dragon
This may relate to the information you’re looking for. https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/lore/Origins-of-Kanaxai/first#post2996910
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I played through the deep again a few days ago and I found Kanaxai to have have a lot of elder dragon champion’esque traits:
By the general connections you form between Kanaxai and an Elder Dragon, one can make the same connections between Abaddon and the Elder Dragons, but the Six Gods have pretty much been blatantly stated to not be tied to the Elder Dragons.
Influencing others mentally is the main trait of mesmers, and physical transformation (just like mental influence) is not unique to Elder Dragons (Abaddon turning the Margonites from humans to etheric beings, for instance).
The DSD corrupts water, so it’s likely that its minions, described only as tentacle creatures, are more akin to the destroyers than the oni.
This said: it is possible, but incredibly unlikely all things considered.
Could he be related to the Deep Sea Dragon? (In theory the DSD could have lived in the Jade Sea and when the Jade melted, she went to the Unending Ocean).
There is no theory behind where the DSD was hibernating. It was hibernating in the deepest trenches of the Unending Ocean – where the krait lived prior to its awakening. This is far from any continent as far as we know. The DSD is no closer to Cantha than it is to Tyria/Elona, at least upon awakening.
(ps. what about Urgoz and the Warden, the look Sylvari’-esque)
Urgoz is said to be a forest spirit – this is akin to the Spirits of the Wild. It was twisted mentally, going insane, by the Jade Wind – powered by Dwayna’s magic twisted by Abaddon. The wardens are said to have formerly been druids, though this is just in-universe theory. There’s nothing to indicate the wardens, which look like green-skinned humans, are plants like the sylvari, which simply have a humanoid appearance. There’s very little to link the wardens to the sylvari except the ties to plants and a sentient tree, and the fact that the sylvari military force are called Wardens – and that’s more likely coincidental than an intentional hint of connections.
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The currently unnamed Elder Dragon from the depths of the sea has the power to create tentacled creatures from the water. Maybe this http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Zhu_Hanuku
Zhu Hanuku is a sea spirit, formerly friendly until the Jade Wind, and is a kraken. Krakens are sea creatures and there’s no reason to believe that they’re tied to the deep sea dragon, despite both being tied to water or the kraken having tentacles like the DSD minions (if that was all it took to become a DSD minion, then squids and octopuses would be DSD minions in a heartbeart should they exist in lore).
Stop treating GW2 as a single story. Each Season and expansion should be their own story.
Maybe its not Deep Sea Dragon, maybe its Deep, Sea Dragon.
The title “Deep Sea Dragon” is 100% fully fan-made. Just like Bubbles. The original and only direct description we have of the dragon is this:
“In the deepest waters of the sea, another dragon breathed, twisting the waters themselves into tentacled horrors that rose from every lake and river of the land”
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/The_Movement_of_the_World
Though since we’ve gotten a dozen and a half indirect hints or mentions of dragon minions/influence where the krait once lived: the deepest trenches of the Unending Ocean.
Stop treating GW2 as a single story. Each Season and expansion should be their own story.
Zhu Hanuku is a sea spirit, formerly friendly until the Jade Wind, and is a kraken.
Where’s this tidbit from?
I’m not doubting you (you tend to be well informed), but I just can’t remember that being mentioned. The Convocation seemed to have been a long-running tradition, complete with hunting the Kraken, which seems to suggest he had been antagonistic before.
Zhu Hanuku is a sea spirit, formerly friendly until the Jade Wind, and is a kraken.
Where’s this tidbit from?
I’m not doubting you (you tend to be well informed), but I just can’t remember that being mentioned. The Convocation seemed to have been a long-running tradition, complete with hunting the Kraken, which seems to suggest he had been antagonistic before.
Considering the reward for the Convocation is the Spear of Archemorus – one of the guys who fought Shiro just before the Jade Wind was unleashed – it’s relatively probable that Konig is right.
The convocation doesn’t seem to have been around before the Jade Wind.
Zhu Hanuku is a sea spirit, formerly friendly until the Jade Wind, and is a kraken.
Where’s this tidbit from?
I’m not doubting you (you tend to be well informed), but I just can’t remember that being mentioned. The Convocation seemed to have been a long-running tradition, complete with hunting the Kraken, which seems to suggest he had been antagonistic before.
“Zhu Hanuku was a legendary sea spirit until it first appeared two hundred years ago in jade flesh. Each year our strongest venture out to defeat him before he destroys the Mighty Armada. We show we are more powerful than the sea itself.”
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Elder_Casta
Easily missed.
The convocation doesn’t seem to have been around before the Jade Wind.
It was, I believe. Just didn’t feature the slaying of our fabled sea spirit or the Spear of Archemorus. Though on a quick search I cannot see anything on the age of the Convocation.
Stop treating GW2 as a single story. Each Season and expansion should be their own story.
(edited by Konig Des Todes.2086)