Precursors, really?

Precursors, really?

in The Lost Shores

Posted by: ting.3780

ting.3780

@epicsmooth, no they weren’t, not without an excuse, if just as an example, the drops had been a fixed 2 rares and 2 exotics, without a chance for precursors, and everyone got 2 rares and 2 exotics, how would people possibly complain about that? They wouldn’t because no one would feel at a disadvantage or cheated, even if others got exotics that were ‘worth’ more, I promise you no one would rage the way they are now.

Problem is, it was not just a ‘small’ bit of difference in terms of reward worth between those who got the precursors and those who did not, the difference is massive, about 4g to 150g in average, huge gap.

Totally agree with you. That’s the point.

I come from Hong Kong.
Asian time zone like HK, Macau, AUS, Tawian, Singapore forums has “blow out” in this morning. Many people complain about the precursor reward. Many people below act as a fool after the final event.
1) who bought precursor before the event
2) who attend the event but haven’t get any precursor
3) who cannot attend the event coz the time (e.g. 4:00am in HK, TW. 7:00am in AUS, Monday. OK I KNEW this is US server. anet won’t care about these people)

Sorry for my poor english grammer, but my friends and I feel angry about it.

Precursors, really?

in The Lost Shores

Posted by: Leo.6817

Leo.6817

@Mr Crazy Moose, 100% True, it certainly changed it for me, Im not looking forward to the next event for ‘fun’ or the lore, or anything else, this killed that for me, Im looking forward to the next event so that I can catch up with my now rich-friends, I mean, why should I spend hours and hours and hours farming Orr putting in effort when tons of people just skipped that step by being lucky in this event, might as well sit back, wait for the next event in a few months or so. Of course I wont, Ill probably go back to farming because I enjoy playing the game, even though this event has really really made me feel cheated, but at least when I reach that point when I have 100g or more in my bag, i can honestly say I did it without getting ANets, cheap and dirty boost.

Precursors, really?

in The Lost Shores

Posted by: asobinin.5467

asobinin.5467

Come one Anet. It’s 2012. You are trying to break the mold of a typical MMO here with GW2. You know better that RNG should not be used anymore in an MMO. It worked for the first decade. It’s not going to work anymore, and you’re just driving your player base mad.

A bunch of exotics given out is fine, but when you give out such a big ticket item to only a select few, you’re just creating disparity among them. A one time event is fine, but no one should walk off rich from it, or vice versa, everyone should walk off happy from it. The event itself should be the treat, not the loot.

Precursors, really?

in The Lost Shores

Posted by: bufko.2497

bufko.2497

So if everybody got a random precursor, people would now be annoyed over “their best guildie-mate-pal” getting a dusk while they went off with a prec spear, right?

Really guys. Be glad some people got lucky and don’t have to run Orr nonstop for months anymore. Be even more glad if you’re a friend of those people. I know I am, because it’s awesome for them

And no, I didn’t get a precursor, but I got a Super Whatsitcalledbeam Alpha, which I really like (even if I’m using bows usually, but I’m Asura!) and some random gloves that sell for about 90s. Congrats to everyone who got their prec, and even more so if you actually got the one you wanted!

edit for clarification, I’m of course not trying to mock the people with legit problems, like disconnects etc – that’s a valid reason to be angry.

(edited by bufko.2497)

Precursors, really?

in The Lost Shores

Posted by: PopeUrban.2578

PopeUrban.2578

Also, it’s complete BS that I have personal and biological obligations that prevent me from attending the Claw of Jormag event every time it occurs. It is patently UNFAIR that I am not given a fair chance at the drop rolls of this chest because I was unable to attend. In fact, any looting system based on a random number generator is profoundly unfair. I’ve often gone as long as a day of playing without so much as seeing an exotic item.

I once heard about a guy that looted a spark off of a normal risen trash mob, but I have killed hundreds of these mobs in my time in game, yet I still don’t have my precursor.

I guess arenanet is such a kitten company that it doesn’t understand that the most valuable items in the game should be mailed to every character on creation, so that EVERYONE has an equal chance at obtaining the most difficult items in the game with very little effort or luck.

KITTEN this game. I’m done!

Honestly people. Grow up.

Are… are you comparing the claw of jormag chest with the ancient karka chest? Ummm…. what? Also, the claw of jormag spawns like every 3 hours. This event is OVER. FOREVER.

I’m comparing all chests and event timings with all other chests and event timings. The most valuable things in the ancient karka chest are something that you can quite literally achieve by doing pretty much anything else in the game. The least valuable are the unique accessory and 20 slot bag, which can only be achieved through this event.

Somehow, I’m not hearing people complain about those. They’re complaining that -

A: Did the event and couldn’t get rewarded due to technical issues.
This is totally valid, and I sympathize. Being unable to get your loot roll because of a bug or disconnect is pretty crappy.

B: Didn’t get drops as good as someone else
Boo hoo. You didn’t get the best drop on the table. Neither did I. Neither did a lot of people. That’s how drop tables work. Luckily, the best stuff is stuff you can still acquire outside of this event. In fact, if you never get lucky drop rolls, that stuff just became a lot easier for you to acquire via the auction house.

C: Couldn’t attend the event
Again, Boo hoo. No matter how it is scheduled, no matter for how long it runs, there will always be people that can’t attend. The only alternative to this is to never hold one time events. This means no holiday festivals, no world-changing events (because golly, new players won’t ever get to experience the old content that’s being replaced!) and a completely static world. Those exist already, in a large library of both multiplayer and single player games. How SUPER important is is that you missed something? If it was that important to you, would you not have somehow adjusted your schedule to attend? If not… then is it really that important?

Guild Master – The Papacy [POPE] (Gate of Madness)/Road Scholar for the Durmand Priory
Writer/Director – Quaggan Quest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ky2TGPmMPeQ

(edited by PopeUrban.2578)

Precursors, really?

in The Lost Shores

Posted by: Mada.5319

Mada.5319

not the people who had precursors before this.

Oh, you mean those guys who bought precursors during the first month when they were dirt cheap? Or the guys who bought them over the past few weeks when it was already painfully obvious that changes were on the way? Linsey stated several days ago the scavenger hunt is on its way, anyone who bought a precursor after that (but before today) should kick themselves.

The price of precursors have significantly dropped. Everybody wins. Some more than others but still……..

Again, completely missing the point as to why people are upset.

We aren’t participating to lower the cost – we are participating to better our characters, to have a good time and for this instance, yes, have a fair shot at something that most of us can’t afford.

For me, I just wanted to have some fun and I never ever would expect a pre-cursor to just fall from the sky and into my bag space.

The point was, lot of people got cheated out of even having a chance at completion, a chance at a pre-cursor, a chance at some gold. The technical limitations of Arenanet cheated out a lot of people out of all of it – the build update in the middle of the kittening raids, invisible mobs (you calling that content now, Anet?) the poor implementations, and the fact that this is not the first time. They spent hours of their time to come in and play, not be a testing ground, like we have been for 3 months. In return, they (we) got insane repair costs, no chest to loot, kicked from the game and had no fun in the process.

I don’t know why you log in – but I log in to enjoy myself. When I got booted, that was the end of the fun for me. The whole point was utter, epic failure.

Then they say they are going to compensate us for it. Mark my words – it will be nothing like the chance at what we had earlier today. The only thing it will be missing, will be everything that we were trying to accomplish and retrieve from that long, drawn out crab fight. It will be salvage.

You should re-read the op. Nothing to do with what you’re complaining about. Anet has already said that those who disconnected will get compensated. If you wanna jump to conclusions now about that compensation, you’re just creating the problem yourself.

Precursors, really?

in The Lost Shores

Posted by: Esrever.8613

Esrever.8613

Finished to story and all there is left is try to make money and get items and get better stuff. Hard work! One time only events come! Now I don’t have to do anything really! what a great game! just come to the event! get rich that way for doing nearly nothing. I don’t even need to play the game any more!

Oh wow, now I don’t play the game, why do I even care about being rich and getting gear? Might as well quit.

sllaw eht no nettirw gnihtemos saw ecno ereht

Precursors, really?

in The Lost Shores

Posted by: ting.3780

ting.3780

As my opinion, I sincerely suggest that ROLL BACK all Precursor/Gold from Precursor which players got in the events. This is the only way to fan out the flame.

(Sorry for my poor english grammar)

Precursors, really?

in The Lost Shores

Posted by: Esrever.8613

Esrever.8613

not the people who had precursors before this.

Oh, you mean those guys who bought precursors during the first month when they were dirt cheap? Or the guys who bought them over the past few weeks when it was already painfully obvious that changes were on the way? Linsey stated several days ago the scavenger hunt is on its way, anyone who bought a precursor after that (but before today) should kick themselves.

how about anyone who gathered money from their entire clan to craft a legendary a couple weeks ago?

The precursors were never dirt cheap, cost was proportional to the money in the game. 99% of people could not get them just as 99% of people before this weekend.

sllaw eht no nettirw gnihtemos saw ecno ereht

Precursors, really?

in The Lost Shores

Posted by: bufko.2497

bufko.2497

As my opinion, I sincerely suggest that ROLL BACK all Precursor/Gold from Precursor which players got in the events. This is the only way to fan out the flame.

(Sorry for my poor english grammar)

Wonder if this would be your opinion if you were more lucky at the chest. Just saying.

Precursors, really?

in The Lost Shores

Posted by: Leo.6817

Leo.6817

@ting, not only is it too late for that, but they do not have the ‘technology’ to even roll back hacked / deleted characters (At least that’s what Ive seen them say), so I doubt they could do this, and even if they did, then all that would happen is that the people feeling cheated and raging would be replaced by the people losing their precursor/gold and raging.

Precursors, really?

in The Lost Shores

Posted by: Leviatana.8107

Leviatana.8107

The problem is when you see the map chat filled with precursors the question is why some didn’t get one while others got up to 2+ precursors from the entire event. If everyone got one or nobody got one at all I think I wouldn’t feel the way about the game as I do right now.

This is like being at a school and a big group of children receive that most popular action figure or barbie girl and their a few that get some second hand toy they don’t care about at all. You’ll feel cheated as a child you would feel sad and left out of the group that did get that thing they always wanted at that point.

One word: Unfair.

I’m not sure if I’ll feel the urge to login again anytime soon. I might just check out some series and other games people been trying to get me to try out.

Precursors, really?

in The Lost Shores

Posted by: Lethrface.2401

Lethrface.2401

As my opinion, I sincerely suggest that ROLL BACK all Precursor/Gold from Precursor which players got in the events. This is the only way to fan out the flame.

(Sorry for my poor english grammar)

I wouldn’t wish this on anyone and I didn’t get anything worth a ton of gold or a precursor. All this would do is satisfy a few people and piss off a few different people who happened to get lucky (which doesn’t happen very often for some people, so let them be)

Precursors, really?

in The Lost Shores

Posted by: Leo.6817

Leo.6817

Same boat as you Leviatana, was pretty excited this morning, had rolled a guardian was all set and happy, after tonight’s event and this lingering bitter taste of being cheated, last thing I feel like doing is logging in and resuming my ‘grind’, while people I was running with for the most part are running around with stuff that will take me half a year to grind up. Definitely time for a break from the game after this.

Precursors, really?

in The Lost Shores

Posted by: Bubbles.1047

Bubbles.1047

What a joke company. Can’t believe it’s the same people that made GW1.

Precursors, really?

in The Lost Shores

Posted by: ting.3780

ting.3780

@ting, not only is it too late for that, but they do not have the ‘technology’ to even roll back hacked / deleted characters (At least that’s what Ive seen them say), so I doubt they could do this, and even if they did, then all that would happen is that the people feeling cheated and raging would be replaced by the people losing their precursor/gold and raging.

Agree. So really think that anet made a big trouble to themselves.
And the point is there has no solution to solve it.

Precursors, really?

in The Lost Shores

Posted by: supergica.8652

supergica.8652

This thread=massive entitlement. So funny though.

Like being angry for not being born a millionaire in real life. But i guess there is no one to blame in that case, but here we have Anet.

I didn’t even get a single level 80 item, all of them were level 76-78 (i’m 80) and I don’t really care. That bag and trinket was enough. Good for those who got lucky.

I hope you all quit, you’re attitude is definitely not improving the game and community

Precursors, really?

in The Lost Shores

Posted by: Leo.6817

Leo.6817

@supergica sure, because out of a group of 100 people 20 of them win the lottery, right? No I don’t think so, entitlement? How about actually READING the thread, did I even -once-, ask to ‘get’ anything? Nope, nothing, haven’t asked for compensation or anything.

Oh well I shouldn’t really respond, trolls trying to pick fights will always be the same.

To anyone reading the thread and realizing I’m only expressing how I feel about the event so that ANet can read it, and learn for the future, thank you, you are actually able to read.

Precursors, really?

in The Lost Shores

Posted by: ting.3780

ting.3780

As my opinion, I sincerely suggest that ROLL BACK all Precursor/Gold from Precursor which players got in the events. This is the only way to fan out the flame.

(Sorry for my poor english grammar)

I wouldn’t wish this on anyone and I didn’t get anything worth a ton of gold or a precursor. All this would do is satisfy a few people and piss off a few different people who happened to get lucky (which doesn’t happen very often for some people, so let them be)

I hope this is not very often before I checked the precursor amount on TP.
Market has really broken so far. Just like the rising price of globs and t6 material. It may only cost 20g more to buy 250 globs compare with last few week. And the reason which make it happen is banning bot. It is fair to most of us.
But this time is totally different and unacceptable. The different of price is more than 200g!

(Again. Sorry for my poor english grammar)

(edited by ting.3780)

Precursors, really?

in The Lost Shores

Posted by: Esrever.8613

Esrever.8613

This thread=massive entitlement. So funny though.

Like being angry for not being born a millionaire in real life. But i guess there is no one to blame in that case, but here we have Anet.

I didn’t even get a single level 80 item, all of them were level 76-78 (i’m 80) and I don’t really care. That bag and trinket was enough. Good for those who got lucky.

I hope you all quit, you’re attitude is definitely not improving the game and community

Funny you should mention real life. Because if someone works 1000 hours, he get paid as such, and if the government just decided to give a select few people $1b each, see how happy at the government that person will be.

If anyone has a right to complain about any injustice, everyone who has anything invested in anything should have such a right. I guess wanting a nice world, even in a video game is too much for people to understand. Entitlement is completely the reason why people ever want nice things.

sllaw eht no nettirw gnihtemos saw ecno ereht

Precursors, really?

in The Lost Shores

Posted by: Terrahero.9358

Terrahero.9358

The precursors were a bad idea for several reasons.

-A lot of the players were left out of the event. Because they simply couldnt make that timezone (even in the EU it ran well into the night, my gf came to bed at 3am). On a sunday? People have work.
And other timezones such as asia and australia which were also very inconvenient.

-A lot of players, relative to normal circumstances, got lucky with precursors. I wouldnt know the exact numbers, i know from my guild that about 6 ppl got a precursor. And one them even got two. So dropchances were fairly high.
Which clashes with the fact that people put in the same amount of effort, but reward is greatly different. My gf got 2 exotics both worth about 1g (likely more when prices go up, lets say 2x 3g). And some got precursors which will peak well into 300g when prices settle.

-Lastly, prices for precursors had a short but massive drop. The TP was completely boned. The few already very rich players have picked up precursors a dime a dozen and will sell these for massive mark-ups. So these precursors wont help spread out more, and make it “easier for the community” to get legendaries. No, the few ultra-rich are simply going to use it to be even richer.

Precursors shouldnt have been in the chest, or they shouldve been guarenteed. Fair reward for everyone.

Precursors, really?

in The Lost Shores

Posted by: AWSUMSAUCE.4372

AWSUMSAUCE.4372

Not quite sure how taking your gold and making you start from level 1 is in ANY way relevant to someone getting an item that is an ingredient in a legendary.

Also, I don’t really care if people got them or not. I did the event on 5 different characters and none of them got a precursor. Still not envious of people who were lucky. Good on them for getting lucky, I’ll get there someday and maybe I’ll get lucky or maybe I’ll have to work. I don’t know and that’s the fun part.

What rubbish is this?? I tried the event with other characters and you can only do it ONCE. Not too mention if you did it 5 times you would have finished barely 20 minutes ago…. and probably have slit your wrists long before then.

I don’t like that people around me got this incredible stuff… I don’t like that one guy linked two precursors he supposedly got… but if that’s how Anet feels it should work I’m sure they have their reasons. Remember the ultimate goal here is to get the precs price down. Which I’m sure will happen if the number of them has doubled.

Precursors, really?

in The Lost Shores

Posted by: supergica.8652

supergica.8652

This thread=massive entitlement. So funny though.

Like being angry for not being born a millionaire in real life. But i guess there is no one to blame in that case, but here we have Anet.

I didn’t even get a single level 80 item, all of them were level 76-78 (i’m 80) and I don’t really care. That bag and trinket was enough. Good for those who got lucky.

I hope you all quit, you’re attitude is definitely not improving the game and community

Funny you should mention real life. Because if someone works 1000 hours, he get paid as such, and if the government just decided to give a select few people $1b each, see how happy at the government that person will be.

If anyone has a right to complain about any injustice, everyone who has anything invested in anything should have such a right. I guess wanting a nice world, even in a video game is too much for people to understand. Entitlement is completely the reason why people ever want nice things.

On word: Lol! I like how you made a totally absurd comparison. Did Anet purposely selected people to give money to? No. The only injustice is in your head.

Have you heard of a lottery? Have any of you ever heard of a lottery? This is what this was, a simple lottery. You wouldn’t complain that only a few people won the lottery, and yet you cry and cry and cry.

I keep my opinion: pure entitlement. The next door kid got a xbox, I must have one!

Precursors, really?

in The Lost Shores

Posted by: Arklain.6429

Arklain.6429

Not quite sure how taking your gold and making you start from level 1 is in ANY way relevant to someone getting an item that is an ingredient in a legendary.

Also, I don’t really care if people got them or not. I did the event on 5 different characters and none of them got a precursor. Still not envious of people who were lucky. Good on them for getting lucky, I’ll get there someday and maybe I’ll get lucky or maybe I’ll have to work. I don’t know and that’s the fun part.

What rubbish is this?? I tried the event with other characters and you can only do it ONCE. Not too mention if you did it 5 times you would have finished barely 20 minutes ago…. and probably have slit your wrists long before then.

I don’t like that people around me got this incredible stuff… I don’t like that one guy linked two precursors he supposedly got… but if that’s how Anet feels it should work I’m sure they have their reasons. Remember the ultimate goal here is to get the precs price down. Which I’m sure will happen if the number of them has doubled.

Because the event started over 12 hours ago, didnt take that long since I didnt have any issues at all on the first attempt, then hopped/found empty overflows with the event still going after that. =/ Not hard, not one precursor, not even mad or the slightest bit irritated. Some got them, others didnt. I didnt. Oh well.

Precursors, really?

in The Lost Shores

Posted by: Shimdroid.2765

Shimdroid.2765

I didn’t get a precursor from the karka chest. I also did not see any precursor being linked in map chat, nor i did know precursors could be dropped from that chest.

Funny thing is that I don’t care. I work for 10 hours a day, I log in just to relax myself , spending some times with random people (I’m in a phantom guild, no one logs on anymore but I enjoy the name of it {We love Sasha [Grey] who couldn’t love that name!}) and if one of those people gets lucky and loots 1kk gold from the boss we were killing, that won’t spoil the game for me. Maybe I’m too well disposed on this things and my point of view is distorted, but I genuinely can’t understand the rage. Haven’t logged on since the end of the event but people say that precursors prices are dropping, so if I (playing WvW almost all the 2 hours i spend in game) have 30g saved in storage and a character already in full exotics I guess people who play more intensively than me could afford a precursor in a month.

In short, I don’t see the need to rage because of disparity of loot, rage for the boots and disconnections is already enough.

Sorry for my eventually bad English, I’m still getting better at it.

Precursors, really?

in The Lost Shores

Posted by: Niacin.4926

Niacin.4926

I agree with you, OP. I was in the event from the very beginning to the end. I got crap loot. Bearly enough silver to cover the cost to TP out after death and repair. And I know of people who just got there 10 minutes before it ended and got precursors and even two precursors. A friend of mine got the Tooth of Frostfang, thats how much on the TP, 100g? Well….

I’m not too sure 40% of people got precursors, but still, a lot of people did get them. And if it is, as you say, that people with trail accounts got precursors, thats bs.

The bag that everyone got was cool and useful loot, but the rest that was random was not fair. Drop chance should be like the revard level in events, the more you participate the higher drop rate you get, not flat drop rate no matter how early or late you arrived. Not pissed, just annoyed and slightly jealous.

Rox Bladerunner [Guardian] ~ Pi Batty [Warrior] – Yak’s Bend
Sunrise ~ Bifrost ~ Bolt

Precursors, really?

in The Lost Shores

Posted by: Lethrface.2401

Lethrface.2401

I’m going to be very blunt here and again, I’ll remind you before this that I am just giving you my honest opinion. Like it or not, it’s not “trolling” or “fanning the flames” or whatever you want to call it. This is your fair warning before you go on reading it.

RNG is there to make things SPECIAL when you actually get that item that you really want. RNG is what is there to keep every single person from having something sought after right off the bat. To complain about RNG is to ask for handouts.

On the other side, for those complaining about the precursors even being there…with the amount of time it takes to get those, the casual player hardly has the time to do such a thing. Arenanet giving us a chance at an item like this at a one time event is rather nice, especially considering the high drop rate it seems to have had in some cases. If you were unlucky enough to not get one, I truly feel your pain as I did not get one…HOWEVER, on the same token, I do know that there will be more one-time events as long as all of this complaining seen throughout this event’s forum does not ruin it for the rest of us…and at those one-time events, hopefully those precursors will be there and each of us that either missed the event or didn’t get the drop will get to attend that one or the next one and get those awesome precursors…

…but please do not wish for our fellow players who got lucky enough to get them and the new players who are trying it out for the first time and may actually start playing it with their friends who invited them to have their awesome loot removed simply because you and a bunch of others didn’t get it. That is rather selfish.

Precursors, really?

in The Lost Shores

Posted by: AWSUMSAUCE.4372

AWSUMSAUCE.4372

Too bad you can’t really prove that you did not get one though, just going on your attitude though I’d say your just trying to fan some flames, so Ill respond with this.

I said this three times now, if I’m seeing people in a few of my guilds, and people on map-chat, even at this hour, basically a day after the event, at each-others throats, then something is wrong.

I gotta wonder if you would use the “Its just a game.” excuse, if say ANet decided to suddenly either take all your gold, or make your character start from level 1, humor me, just say they had their reasons, you’d be cool with that? 100%?

We are talking about precursor . Now you throw in other stuff? This is what ppl do when they are unable to win someone in a conversation. Why not do this comparison. You bought a PC that come with 4 gb ram then this guy bought the same PC 1 week later same price and was given 8 gb ram. It is totally different from you bought a PC and the maker of the PC decided to strip your PC to just the casing. Get it? Nope? Too bad then.

Um welcome to the real world dude this is how life works. One day when you actually pay for your own computer you’ll realise this is EXACTLY how things are. Can at least easily gauge the intellect who posts and what on here. If you like can still ‘win the conversation though’ ^^

Precursors, really?

in The Lost Shores

Posted by: Nuke Morg.1952

Nuke Morg.1952

They way it was, is really ok. BUT it could’ve been better. In my opinion at the end of such event should be a choice – so you can choose 1 of ALL precursors. So you can get the one you want and need. But having a chance is still better then nothing.

“Reality is an illusion created by a lack of alcohol.”

Precursors, really?

in The Lost Shores

Posted by: Mada.5319

Mada.5319

not the people who had precursors before this.

Oh, you mean those guys who bought precursors during the first month when they were dirt cheap? Or the guys who bought them over the past few weeks when it was already painfully obvious that changes were on the way? Linsey stated several days ago the scavenger hunt is on its way, anyone who bought a precursor after that (but before today) should kick themselves.

how about anyone who gathered money from their entire clan to craft a legendary a couple weeks ago?

The precursors were never dirt cheap, cost was proportional to the money in the game. 99% of people could not get them just as 99% of people before this weekend.

When something like that is done, everyone who pitches in does so knowing the consequences. There is always a risk, they chose to take it, and they lost out. That’s life, deal with it.

Those 99% of people would be happy with what has happened today so you’re not really making any sense anymore.

Precursors, really?

in The Lost Shores

Posted by: INVALID NAME.9362

INVALID NAME.9362

Everyone saying “Suck it up! This is how real life works!” confuses me because I don’t pay people money so I can experience more of the things that are unpleasant about real life. I pay people money to escape for a little bit and get some relief.

Precursors, really?

in The Lost Shores

Posted by: Esrever.8613

Esrever.8613

This thread=massive entitlement. So funny though.

Like being angry for not being born a millionaire in real life. But i guess there is no one to blame in that case, but here we have Anet.

I didn’t even get a single level 80 item, all of them were level 76-78 (i’m 80) and I don’t really care. That bag and trinket was enough. Good for those who got lucky.

I hope you all quit, you’re attitude is definitely not improving the game and community

Funny you should mention real life. Because if someone works 1000 hours, he get paid as such, and if the government just decided to give a select few people $1b each, see how happy at the government that person will be.

If anyone has a right to complain about any injustice, everyone who has anything invested in anything should have such a right. I guess wanting a nice world, even in a video game is too much for people to understand. Entitlement is completely the reason why people ever want nice things.

On word: Lol! I like how you made a totally absurd comparison. Did Anet purposely selected people to give money to? No. The only injustice is in your head.

Have you heard of a lottery? Have any of you ever heard of a lottery? This is what this was, a simple lottery. You wouldn’t complain that only a few people won the lottery, and yet you cry and cry and cry.

I keep my opinion: pure entitlement. The next door kid got a xbox, I must have one!

Anet does not have to select people. It was a simple thing where people happen to have gotten things. The lottery is a part where you pay to be part of. You have the odds and have consent to engage in it. If you do not win, it is not because of someone else’s doing. This was an Omnipotent force in a system changing the entire system ending with complete chaos. I don’t care if it isn’t life or death but its completely unjust by part of a sentient party’s decision that completely messes everything up in the system. If you do “win” this weekend, it is because Anet allowed it.

Anet is the reason behind the chaos the entire market will suffer in the oncoming weeks. Anet is the reason people the game will now shrink due to people giving up. Do you know what happens to people who don’t work and get a lot of money? Most of them quit because they have nothing to do, and they don’t feel the reward. The people who would get rewarded from farming are no longer feeling it either. If this keeps up, all that would be left in the game would be people would people who just won’t let go. Reward is part of the game, and balancing that is a big part.

Your opinion is such of a defeatist: the world is unfair, people are working for insignificant rewards that are just given out randomly every now and then, it is best to accept it. People who have ideals must be entitled.

sllaw eht no nettirw gnihtemos saw ecno ereht

Precursors, really?

in The Lost Shores

Posted by: marnick.4305

marnick.4305

OMG precursor prices dropped for everyone. I wasn’t there, didn’t plan to yet I can reap the rewards with a precursor at half the price! I count myself lucky!

If I can’t play Guild Wars 2 at work, I won’t work in Guild Wars 2 either.
Delayed content is eventually good. Rushed content is eternally bad. ~ Shigeru Miyamoto

Precursors, really?

in The Lost Shores

Posted by: Esrever.8613

Esrever.8613

Too bad you can’t really prove that you did not get one though, just going on your attitude though I’d say your just trying to fan some flames, so Ill respond with this.

I said this three times now, if I’m seeing people in a few of my guilds, and people on map-chat, even at this hour, basically a day after the event, at each-others throats, then something is wrong.

I gotta wonder if you would use the “Its just a game.” excuse, if say ANet decided to suddenly either take all your gold, or make your character start from level 1, humor me, just say they had their reasons, you’d be cool with that? 100%?

We are talking about precursor . Now you throw in other stuff? This is what ppl do when they are unable to win someone in a conversation. Why not do this comparison. You bought a PC that come with 4 gb ram then this guy bought the same PC 1 week later same price and was given 8 gb ram. It is totally different from you bought a PC and the maker of the PC decided to strip your PC to just the casing. Get it? Nope? Too bad then.

Um welcome to the real world dude this is how life works. One day when you actually pay for your own computer you’ll realise this is EXACTLY how things are. Can at least easily gauge the intellect who posts and what on here. If you like can still ‘win the conversation though’ ^^

Real life sucks, I would rather play an MMO.

sllaw eht no nettirw gnihtemos saw ecno ereht

Precursors, really?

in The Lost Shores

Posted by: Esrever.8613

Esrever.8613

OMG precursor prices dropped for everyone. I wasn’t there, didn’t plan to yet I can reap the rewards with a precursor at half the price! I count myself lucky!

WHY would you buy one? They are just going to give out legendarys in the next one time only event. I mean why the heck not?

sllaw eht no nettirw gnihtemos saw ecno ereht

Precursors, really?

in The Lost Shores

Posted by: AWSUMSAUCE.4372

AWSUMSAUCE.4372

Not quite sure how taking your gold and making you start from level 1 is in ANY way relevant to someone getting an item that is an ingredient in a legendary.

Also, I don’t really care if people got them or not. I did the event on 5 different characters and none of them got a precursor. Still not envious of people who were lucky. Good on them for getting lucky, I’ll get there someday and maybe I’ll get lucky or maybe I’ll have to work. I don’t know and that’s the fun part.

What rubbish is this?? I tried the event with other characters and you can only do it ONCE. Not too mention if you did it 5 times you would have finished barely 20 minutes ago…. and probably have slit your wrists long before then.

I don’t like that people around me got this incredible stuff… I don’t like that one guy linked two precursors he supposedly got… but if that’s how Anet feels it should work I’m sure they have their reasons. Remember the ultimate goal here is to get the precs price down. Which I’m sure will happen if the number of them has doubled.

Because the event started over 12 hours ago, didnt take that long since I didnt have any issues at all on the first attempt, then hopped/found empty overflows with the event still going after that. =/ Not hard, not one precursor, not even mad or the slightest bit irritated. Some got them, others didnt. I didnt. Oh well.

You spouting complete BS dude and everyone can see it. I’m sure most of us tried re-running when the P word started getting so hot, the event is OVER and you didn’t do it 5 times. Seriously

Precursors, really?

in The Lost Shores

Posted by: gaborkaldy.3210

gaborkaldy.3210

“The few already very rich players have picked up precursors a dime a dozen and will sell these for massive mark-ups. So these precursors wont help spread out more, and make it “easier for the community” to get legendaries. No, the few ultra-rich are simply going to use it to be even richer.”

And that’s the point. I am happy for the people getting a precursor. I am even happier for the guy who were dancing naked 100m behind the dieing crowd in WHOLE event, shouting stupid things in map chat and got 2 precursors from the chest.

People say. This is good for every1. Lot drops. Price will go down. every1 happy. Well this is not true. Price will go down temporary. Few people were on halfway to buy the precursors now happy as they can buy them with sale. BUT most of them will be bought by players are already very rich. It doesnt matter if with botting or Hard Work or with exploiting stuff. So now they will buy 5-6 precursors on the price of 2 and will sell them as soon as the price will go high again. And the ppl who have 2 hours in game/day will continue struggling towards…

But hey this is like in real life economy. Rich ppl getting even more richer.

It’s always Beer Time!
Desolation – [TEU]

(edited by gaborkaldy.3210)

Precursors, really?

in The Lost Shores

Posted by: mOOnRaBBiT.8913

mOOnRaBBiT.8913

i think this is kinda unfair, my timezone is at UTC +08:00. that means this event started/happened at about 4:00 am on Monday, which i have to work at 5:00 am. i don’t know what ANet is thinking, maybe they don’t want us at this time zone to sleep or work to be able to participate in this event?

they should have consider other people in other timezone, they could have make this event trigger 2-3 times a day and only make the chest appear once per account.

i really disappointed with ANet because of this, not because i did not get a precursor but because they seems to have not given us a chance.

you could say that i could have take a leave from work, but seriously, who would expect that ANet give high value rewards from an event that many many people would miss because of the time zone difference. i did not expect them to be this kitten

the way i think for them to be able to fix this is to schedule another event in different time, only make the chest appear to those who was not able to get the chest this morning if they have some kind of log about who and who have finished the event. and take the chest.

or make it so that precursor will be easily attainable, to drop it’s price.

(edited by mOOnRaBBiT.8913)

Precursors, really?

in The Lost Shores

Posted by: supergica.8652

supergica.8652

Anet does not have to select people. It was a simple thing where people happen to have gotten things. The lottery is a part where you pay to be part of. You have the odds and have consent to engage in it. If you do not win, it is not because of someone else’s doing. This was an Omnipotent force in a system changing the entire system ending with complete chaos. I don’t care if it isn’t life or death but its completely unjust by part of a sentient party’s decision that completely messes everything up in the system. If you do “win” this weekend, it is because Anet allowed it.

Anet is the reason behind the chaos the entire market will suffer in the oncoming weeks. Anet is the reason people the game will now shrink due to people giving up. Do you know what happens to people who don’t work and get a lot of money? Most of them quit because they have nothing to do, and they don’t feel the reward. The people who would get rewarded from farming are no longer feeling it either. If this keeps up, all that would be left in the game would be people would people who just won’t let go. Reward is part of the game, and balancing that is a big part.

Your opinion is such of a defeatist: the world is unfair, people are working for insignificant rewards that are just given out randomly every now and then, it is best to accept it. People who have ideals must be entitled.

There are two ways to get precursors: luck or farming gold to buy it. The luck part is always the same, you might or you might not get it. You can’t control it either way. The farming part (the one you can controll) just got easier, it’s cheaper on TP so you can farm less.

So my opinion that I’m not jealous of others is that of defeatist? You’re upset about RNG that you can’t control while I focus on the part that i can control and I’m defeatist?

I wish everyone would have the courage to see it for what it is: jealousy and envy. I guarantee that each and everyone of those complaining would not be here if they got a precursor. And it’s not 40%, not even 20% , it’s probably less then 5%. You make it sound like half the people playing the game have a precursor now.

Precursors, really?

in The Lost Shores

Posted by: Leo.6817

Leo.6817

supergica do you have ANY proof of what your saying? Nope? At least I say what I say because half of the people I personally KNOW now do have a precursor, so yes I can say from my view, it is 40%, but of course, this fanatical “YOUR JEALOUS” screaming is coming from someone who obviously does have a precursor.

p.s. Before you say “No I don’t” I wouldn’t believe you on that point if you had screenshots of looting the chest even.

Precursors, really?

in The Lost Shores

Posted by: holska.4127

holska.4127

Even though I was unlucky (got 2 bad rares, 1 lvl76 bad exotic boots, 1 lvl80 bad exotic shield) I don’t envy others who got precursors nor do I think adding it was a bad idea.

I can see why they did it; they have stated several times they were tracking the price of precursors on TP and found it to be too high and there’s 3 things confirmed they’re doing now to counter it as well as addressing player complaints since launch about it:
A) rewarding them to a relatively large group of players with this event is a first step that will drop the price, at least for some time (this morning The Legend was on there for 140G, yesterday afternoon it was 340G)
B) As mentioned in the patchnotes, the chance to create one in the forge has been slightly increased
C) They mentioned they’re working on adding a scavenger hunt type of way to acquire them. So soon everyone will be able to work for them.

Precursors, really?

in The Lost Shores

Posted by: Rottaran Owain.6789

Rottaran Owain.6789

Well, if they did want them to be cheaper on the trading post, there’s a much better way of doing that without creating a huge poverty gap in the game, and potentially harming the economy long-term.

Just increase the drop rate of them. No one-time chests, no hundreds of posts of arguments. Easily revertible if it turns out to be a bad idea.

Precursors, really?

in The Lost Shores

Posted by: supergica.8652

supergica.8652

Well no one in my guild got a precursor. No one in my overflow got a precursor. Do I have other evidence? No, how could i? But it seems logical that it supposed to be a 2 random exotics from all the level 70+ exotics pool in the game. I doubt precursors make up 40% of all the exotics. You just see it everywhere because everyone who got it advertised it, while those who didn’t don’t say anything

And I don’t care about making a legendary, never did and obviously i don’t have nothing remotely close to it, including a precursor. Hard to imagine someone is not angry because he didn’t get a precursor?

Precursors, really?

in The Lost Shores

Posted by: Fay.2735

Fay.2735

I have to be honest, This is the first time that I’m really disappointed. I loved the event, I’ve loved everything Anet has done thus far with this game and been patient and tolerant even with the really frustrating game bugs like the Arah gate or the lag crab fest on phase 1, I’ve mostly laughed it off. I’ve probably been one of the biggest supporters.

But working those 3 hours through that event and see people and guildies get precursors that I’ve been working on for so long I have to say it did upset me quite a bit. I actually dreamed twice now of dawn dropping, that’s how much I’ve been wanting a legendary and then this happens…

I thought the mystic forge was bad enough but this just feels like another stab in the back to the people who’ve actually been working for a long time and been having bad luck. When a free trialist gets two precursors. Seriously Anet, that cut me deep.

I don’t care how many people claim in this topic that its completely fair because no it’s NOT fair, I’ve been working hard for it while someone whose never even played the game before got the double lottery winning.

It would be nice if my efforts were rewarded for once. I’m sorry to say Anet but I’m not a happy costumer at the moment solely for that specific reason. As for the event, I loved it and enjoyed it. Well done on that front.

•— Fay Everdunes | Fay Erduna | Lilyfay (Fay.2735) — Mesmer/Revenant — [NA]FA — 8k±Hrs Played —•
Have you heard of the city? The ancient uru? Where there was power to write worlds

Precursors, really?

in The Lost Shores

Posted by: Derian.4703

Derian.4703

Agree reward shloul be smilar 1 precursor 1 normal and all will be happy, iven if u drop precursor tridenty and some one dusk but it nearly eqal . but if i get 5g loot and otehr ppl 2 precursor worth 500 g its bit too much :/ they should rollback this and do this more fair

Precursors, really?

in The Lost Shores

Posted by: Khaun.4321

Khaun.4321

Thanks everyone, this whole thread made me LOL. I love how easily everyone is manipulated by linking chat codes. I honestly laughed out loud at the 40% comments. Although all the 99% vs 1% comments kind of depresses me. Sad how the welfare state is creeping into everything, even video games. Oh and because I’ve been playing the game longer than half an hour I know that level 20 trial account characters can’t get level 80 exotics from drops so I’m not buying into that either. Please include screenshots in any replies.

Precursors, really?

in The Lost Shores

Posted by: Ksan.1246

Ksan.1246

So instead of introducing non-RNG way of obtaining precursors from the very beginning, ANet tries to mitigate low precursor supply by increasing drop rates and more RNG ways of obtaining. it. Good job!
It took me 153 combines in the MF to get one, and i still think i was lucky. That was weeks of grind, and now that. You devs could as well just spat me in the face.

(edited by Ksan.1246)

Precursors, really?

in The Lost Shores

Posted by: KazyDesguerre.7865

KazyDesguerre.7865

IMO 24-48 hr rollback so people are less angry about the precursor weapons. The less angry people you have ANET the better. Seems like most of your gem buying player base is taking their money elsewhere. Better get them back on the hook, that is money walking out the door.

Currently Playing:
Beta Wars 2.
Waiting for Guild Wars 2.

Precursors, really?

in The Lost Shores

Posted by: Zid.4196

Zid.4196

Im not sure which was worse, trial accounts getting one, or some people getting two!

Precursors, really?

in The Lost Shores

Posted by: Dee Jay.2460

Dee Jay.2460

I’m kind of on the same boat as the OP.

While I appreciate the Precursors being made more abundant, the fact that large portions of the players base will suddenly become significantly richer for what all others have to spend 50+ hours farming just seems unfair.

I mean with single, isolated drops it’s a different matter. That’s just pure RNG that can strike anywhere at any time.

But why have so many people rewarded with drops that are 100 times more valuable than others? Especially such wide-spread?

I mean it turned from congratulating the winner of a Precursor for his good fortune to feeling jealous because you weren’t one of the many “real winners”.

And that’s ignoring the many people who were disconnected or couldn’t participate.

ANet really has a lot to learn about player psychology.