Guild Wars 2

Recently I have been seeing a lot of talk in these forums about Trahearne and his future in the game, and I want to show my support for his character returning and I hope others will join me or at least discuss their reservations.

I have never played a sylvari, so all I know about Trahearne’s interactions with the PC before Claw Island is minimal, I am not really interested in Trahearne’s character before I met him, though its one of the things that many people berate his character for. I never really cared about Trahearne until we were well into the living story, I did not dislike him, but I never really felt attached to him either, however after all the things from LS S1 I began to miss him, like an old friend that stayed with you, and you could trust even if he was a bit odd at times. Are there some minor flaws with his character? Undoubtedly, I challenge anyone to find a perfect character without any flaws, no matter what your character is like, there is always someone out there who, for whatever reason, does not like him/her, and in my opinion, the complaints leveled at Trahearne are largely without merit.

I like these forums alot, over the past two weeks I have visited them almost daily to see the updates on the vine entangling the waypoints as it has caught my interest. However, I have seen way more hate for Trahearne here then ingame.

For example, the day after the Battle for Lion’s Arch LS release was finished, I went to L.A. to inspect the damage, on TC (the RP server) there was a guy who named his character similar to Trahearne and popped a blue dorito, toured the devastation and make comments in a very similar manner to Trahearne, there were a few people who poked fun at him but the majority of the people there simply followed and enjoyed the odd situation, praising the player for his near flawless parody of Trahearne and asking eachother when he was going to return to the story.

I have seen this attitude of people excited for Trahearne reflected in the community ingame, but also here on the forums and I wanted to create a thread telling people and Anet that there are a good portion of players who do not dislike Trahearne and would welcome their old friend into their new adventures and would be excited to fight alongside him once more.

More precisely, I want to say that I don’t think Anet should kill off Trahearne just because some people on the forums don’t like him, when so many people do like him. If Anet decides to kill him off to try and elicit a emotional response from the playerbase, I would not have a problem with that, because I would be ticked off if Mordy killed Trahearne, even more so then the order mentors because my PC has gone through Orr with this guy and I know him, I think Anet did a really good job at making him feel like a friend. Not perfect, but then, what friend is?

So in conclusion, if Anet is going to kill off Trahearne, I sincerely hope that the Trahearne hate is not even considered as a reason to ax him.

I fully agree that Trahearne should die so that a decent actor/character could take his place.

….and yes i did not read most of what u typed….

kthxbye

Trehearne isn’t awful. He’s just really boring, as is the Orr part of the PS. He’s more interesting in the early Sylvari PS missions. Could be because he’s interacting with Caithe back then, while the later parts of PS don’t give him lots of well-characterized NPCs to interact with.

ahh, reverse psychology on arena net.. i like traherne but i’d be sad if he dies
therefore, kill him off.. i see what you did there

i recommend reading this thread.. the last three posts pretty much cover my thoughts on the trahearne issue

to summarize, he wasn’t horribly written.. just poorly implemented, the voice is even ok.. but what was arena nets direction on the matter.. ok, get in that sound booth and embrace the push-over-ness of trahearne! they need to hire a new voice actor and.. gee, i dunno.. use him for something other than a ‘move the player characters along’ device

If they flesh out his character more, I certainly wouldn’t mind seeing him back.

I so dislike Trahearne…
immensely

So a recluse scholar specializing in necromancy. Person who is considered weakest of the first born. A person who bosses literally laugh there kitten off when they face him.

I think most people are kittened at him for his class change from necromancer to warrior and that most missions are escort based so he doesn’t get to display his combat ability.

That said he could probably kick kitten any day of the week due to having a duel class character.

He took all the corruption of orr into himself so expect an epic boss fight latter

I really hope Trahearne doesn’t get killed off. He was one of my favorite characters from the Personal Story. Despite how everyone else felt about him. I even read comments about him and went in expecting not to like him, but somehow loved his character.

People just seem to get so caught up, in thinking their character has to be the hero of the entire game and no one else can do anything. Trahearne had a purpose, he fulfilled his and we helped him achieve it. While we pushed forward to achieve ours. He clearly gives us all the credit we deserve.

He is one of the few NPCs who give us the credit we deserve. He even thanks us for our help.

It it were not for us retrieving Caladabog, he never would have had it and without us he likely would have failed in his task. The sword was meant for him, we were only meant to retrieve it.

For my PC, Trahearne is a friend, we went through tough times and came out on the other end, achieving something impossible. And though the cleansing of Orr isn’t pushing on as fast as it could and making it less corrupt in game, and Zhaitain was a kitten poor boss. It still happened.

He is a bit odd, a bit flawed, a lot of people really dislike him or find him any number of adjectives. But please leave him there.

At the end of the day I remember Trahearne, when I could care less about Logan, or Rytlock, or Eir, or Zojja. All they did was bicker, but Trahearne had my back. And though they did not let him fight, and they designed him to die a lot. That isn’t on Trahearne, that was the designers poor decision.

Trahearne is what I remember of the Personal Story. Kill off Logan (please do), Rytlock, Eir and Zojja. But leave Trahearne alone.

To those who say that Trahearne was poorly implemented, let me ask this. Do you think that Anet vastly improved in their writing abilities with LS S2? Perhaps not in every way, but in many ways they are showing great strides in their writing and would most likely continue this trend with a main character who gets as much grief as Trahearne gets.

I think that if we give them a shot, they can make patch up all of Trahearne’s minor flaws and poor implementation, we just need to give them one.

To be honest here I don’t really mind Trahearne that much,and I think he should have been introduced to players earlier in the Ps like he was to Sylvari players. That way it wouldn’t have seemed like he came out of nowhere to some people. The only thing that I didn’t like about him that much was his voice,and that couldn’t be helped.

I just think that people get way to extreme with the Trahearne hating. The fact that he was poorly implemented is the real problem.
(I second leaving the salad alone here.And if they fleshed out his character more that would be good as well.)

Fafnir.5124:

So a recluse scholar specializing in necromancy. Person who is considered weakest of the first born. A person who bosses literally laugh there kitten off when they face him.

I think most people are kittened at him for his class change from necromancer to warrior and that most missions are escort based so he doesn’t get to display his combat ability.

That said he could probably kick kitten any day of the week due to having a duel class character.

He took all the corruption of orr into himself so expect an epic boss fight latter

A: He didn’t become a warrior. Last I check warriors can’t fling magic around with their greatswords.
b: Um, evidence he took the corruption into himself That was never stated.

Trahearne doesn’t deserve the hate he gets. I played the personal story again recently, and he seemed like an okay guy, who had an understandable development of starting off an unsure scholar, and becoming a full fledged commander by the end. Even as a commander, he still had to face his confidence.

Just needs his voice actor to show a bit more emotion, that’s all. But he’s not really that bad of a character.

Kain Francois.4328:

Trahearne doesn’t deserve the hate he gets. I played the personal story again recently, and he seemed like an okay guy, who had an understandable development of starting off an unsure scholar, and becoming a full fledged commander by the end. Even as a commander, he still had to face his confidence.

Just needs his voice actor to show a bit more emotion, that’s all. But he’s not really that bad of a character.

The main issue is a lot of the haters never paid attention to the story, and thus think he ‘stole credit’ from the player at EVERY chance, when he didn’t at all.

I`m of the opinion that the player character playing second fiddle to Trahearne is actually a good thing. That is exactly the problem with games like Wow for example where the player character is always referred to as “the hero” or “the one” while simultaneously disregarding the other 9 or 24 players that fought with you.

Personally I like Trahearne as a character, although I can agree that he may not be the right type to lead the Pact, but he is a scholar at heart so what can you expect? Due to his knowledge of Orr he is vital to the overall campaign however. This is my subjective opinion, but the only nitpick-complaint I have about him is that I felt like Magister Sieran was killed off to make room for Trahearne in the Personal Story.

If there ever was a proper moment to let him die it would be when he performed the ritual of cleansing at the Artesian Waters. Completing his Wyld Hunt was his personal goal and that was a missed opportunity to write him out of the story on a high note.

It would be a bad idea to kill him just for the sake of killing him. If he is targeted by Mordremoth at some point, at least his death should count for something.