Guild Wars 2

Morbridae.8607:

imho, the problem here is that you don’t enjoy the game per sé, but rush through it trying to get every achievement. Stop running, and start enjoying this beautiful game. Enter the LS and read the story, and if you complete it or don’t, is secondary.

This right here, I really loved the first Adventure Box it was amazing.

But this time around I paid attention to the achievements, my god some of the secrets shops were too kittening cryptic to find without a kitten guide. They get frustrating. One of my friends hates SAB so much (and eventually pretty much 90% of my guild too) she just rushed trough the content to get the achievements and get off.

I liked tribulation mode more because the achievements were pretty much just clearing the kitten thing and visiting shops. While normal mode was a kitten scavenger hunt instead of a world with some secrets for people who like to explore ( like my friend and I) but there’s a difference between Simon’s quest cryptic and just sorta hidden with maybe some patterns leading to conclude something is a secret.

PS: I love jumping puzzles and nintendo-hard games. but regular SAB was just a frustrating event to do.

PPS: I miss mad king’s clock tower, was a bit disappointed that content was taken out, I wasn’t used to how GW2 events work. But at the same time I love how they make the game feel dynamic even with minor stuff like that destruction and repair of the lion’s arc statue.

WTB time machine esque area to take back players to living story versions of zones.
Maybe a new area in the mists or a weird lab experiment or something. Maybe it could tie into the reactor storyline.

Holiday content on the other hand is yearly, so that’s probably not too necessary.

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You are:

[ ] Married
[ ] Have Girlfriend
[x] Employed
[x] Have Pets
[ ] Have Children
[x] Are an Adult
[x] Have a Life
[ ] Have no Manual Dexterity

You Think Living World is too:

[ ] Hard
[x] Time Consuming
[x] Temporary
[ ] Full of Jumping Puzzles

You are Currently Threatening to:

[x] Quit
[x] Uninstall
[x] Kick Colins’ Dog
[x] Tell the Internet That You are Upset

You are:

[x] In School
[x] http 404: Life cannot be found, please try again later.
[ ] Married
[ ] Have Girlfriend
[ ] Employed
[ ] Have Pets
[ ] Have Children
[x] Are an Adult
[ ] Have a Life
[ ] Have no Manual Dexterity

You Think Living World is too:

[ ] Hard
[ ] Time Consuming
[ ] Temporary
[ ] Full of Jumping Puzzles
[x] Fun, but only if they are seen as bi-weekly end-game.

You are Currently Threatening to:

[ ] Quit
[ ] Uninstall
[ ] Kick Colins’ Dog
[ ] Tell the Internet That You are Upset
[x] Stop grinding and farming.
[x] Release Tequatl on the Dev Team.

My sad life as a working hobo even thou I’m not a hobo. :-)

[ ] Married
[ ] Have Girlfriend
[X] Employed to death!
[ ] Have Pets
[ ] Have Children
[X] Are an Adult
[] Have a Life
[] Have no Manual Dexterity

You Think Living World is too:

[ ] Hard
[ ] Time Consuming
[X] Temporary
[ ] Full of Jumping Puzzles

You are Currently Threatening to:

[ ] Quit
[ ] Uninstall
[X] Kick Colins’ Dog
[ ] Tell the Internet That You are Upset

Yes I posted the fact that it would get boring, annoying, frustrating and old when they first suggested the idea. I also said that it might take a year but players would get bored and annoyed and Dev’s would run out of fresh ideas. It hasn’t even taken 6 months for this to happen.

bump for players who wish to add their own frustrations here

You are:
[ ] Married
[ ] Have Girlfriend
[X] Employed
[ ] Have Pets
[ ] Have Children
[X] Are an Adult
[X] Have a Life
[ ] Have no Manual Dexterity
You Think Living World is too:
[ ] Hard
[ ] Time Consuming
[X] Temporary
[ ] Full of Jumping Puzzles
You are Currently Threatening to:
[ ] Quit
[ ] Uninstall
[ ] Kick Colins’ Dog
[X] Tell the Internet That You are Upset

Look, I’m not married, and currently don’t have a girlfriend. So, at this moment in my life, I have the time to complete the living story achievements. But that won’t last forever (hopefully lol)… and I know that the next time I do have a girlfriend, etc., I won’t be able to keep up at all.

The new Tequatl update being permanent is a GREAT step in the right direction. I like how there are minor time-gated achievements related to the content that don’t take hours of grinding to complete, and then the added content is permanent afterwards. HUGE step in the right direction, so thank you devs for that. Now, if we could have every release follow this formula, everything would be fine.

You are:

[x] Married
[ ] Have Girlfriend
[ ] Employed
[ ] Have Pets
[ ] Have Children
[x] Are an Adult
[x] Have a Life
[ ] Have no Manual Dexterity

You Think Living World is too:

[x] Hard
[ ] Time Consuming
[ ] Temporary
[x] Full of Jumping Puzzles that require special tech or double jointed abilities
[x] Grindy

You are Currently Threatening to:

[ ] Quit
[ ] Uninstall
[ ] Kick Colins’ Dog
[ ] Tell the Internet That You are Upset
[x] Be sad and keep watching for newer games
[x] Try to stop spending 30 -50 $ a month on gems

I don’t have time to camp dungeons and don’t have the mental fortitude to ignore but play with belligerent mean spirited players and hope to catch off and on the nice players. Lots of people corralling mobs in dailies now and doing quick kill AEs. I don’t know how to fix it but its making me sad. Maybe some automated parts of the game make it too easy to not communicate?

As a senior year electrical engineering major, my free time is generally pretty spotty. I took a long hiatus from GW2, and came back to play casually (as that’s all my free time perimts at the moment) over the past two weeks. I found out about the Grand Pavillion, and I was really excited. I spent 10 minutes running around Divinity’s Reach looking for Emissary Vorp only to eventually figure out that I can access the content any more.

As an avid GW1 player that would often take long breaks from the game, only to come back and play it for months on end to enjoy new builds and content, the living story really isn’t gelling with me. I know that you want players to keep playing, but players wanting to pick the game up after a hiatus end up in my position, and potential new players are put off by temporary content.

Myself and many other players feel that development time would be better spent on permanent content. The quality of the living story content is wonderful, and if that’s the development model you choose, that’s great; however, the content needs to be permanent. That said, I still believe a full-blown expansion (Cantha, anyone?) would certainly be your best bet. The vast majority of players are more willing to spend money on content than gems, so take our money Anet!

Sincerely,

A long-time fan.

You are:

[ ] Married
[x] Have Girlfriend
[x] Employed
[ ] Have Pets
[ ] Have Children
[x] Are an Adult
[x] Have a Life
[x] Have no Manual Dexterity

You Think Living World is too:

[ ] Hard
[x] Time Consuming
[x] Temporary
[x] Full of Jumping Puzzles that require special tech or double jointed abilities
[x] Grindy

You are Currently Threatening to:

[x] Quit
[x] Uninstall
[x] Kick Colins’ Dog
[ ] Tell the Internet That You are Upset
[x] Be sad and keep watching for newer games
[ ] Try to stop spending 30 -50 $ a month on gems

At first I thought, living world, yay, free content. As time goes, that is more of a…Never Again!

It wont be a problem if it is permanent and I can do it when I have some free time. I normally take breaks from games and I just hate it when I return, I have miss out so many content and only to learn that I cannot ever play those again.

I cannot even get my friends in the game. They were happy to heard that GW2 is popping out content every two weeks. They want to wait until there is more content before they buy the game. When they find out those content is not really content to stay. They have move on to another games already. Same here, I will be moving on soon as well. Just don’t have the time.

Living world is stupid. Reason why I play a fantasy game is to get away from my crazy-non-waiting-living-world. Not to jump into another one!

This is a game, not a JOB!

Please check all that apply.

I am:

[x] Married
[ ] Have Girlfriend
[x] Employed
[ ] Have Pets
[ ] Have Children
[x] Are an Adult
[x] Have a Life
[ ] Have no Manual Dexterity

You Think Living World is too:

[ ] Hard
[ ] Time Consuming
[x] Temporary
[x] Full of Jumping Puzzles
[x] Grindy
[x] Fast of a timetable

You are Currently Threatening to:

[ ] Quit
[ ] Uninstall
[ ] Kick Colins’ Dog
[x] Tell the Internet That You are Upset

Please check all that apply.

You are:

[ ] Married
[ ] Have Girlfriend
[x ] Employed
[ x] Have Pets
[ ] Have Children
[x ] Are an Adult
[x ] Have a Life
[ ] Have no Manual Dexterity

You Think Living World is too:

[ ] Hard
[ ] Time Consuming
[x ] Temporary
[ ] Full of Jumping Puzzles

You are Currently Threatening to:

[ ] Quit
[ ] Uninstall
[ ] Kick Colins’ Dog
[x ] Tell the Internet That You are Upset

Biggest thing I dislike is missing awesome items like the scelerite karka backpeice because I had a really busy semester of school and work during the time of that content. Now theres no way to obtain it EVER. I am so sad that there is such cool skins that are only available to people who had the time to play a specific span of time. Doesn’t seem very fair to the players who unfortunately have to take breaks from the game because of other commitments.

Today, Living Random World made me SADDER THEN EVER. Removing an existing path from TA to replace it with Scarlet stuff?! In what universe is that a good thing, Anet? Yes, TA F/U had issues, but it also had nice aestethics and good writing. Now to be replaced by more magitech and villain sueiness?! Looks like deliberate trolling of players… So yeah, I’m once more [x] Telling the Internet That I Am Very Much Upset.

Just came back after quitting to slightly update this:

Please check all that apply.

You are:

[ ] Married
[ ] Have Girlfriend
[ ] Employed
[ ] Have Pets
[ ] Have Children
[x] Are an Adult
[x] Have a Life
[ ] Have no Manual Dexterity

You Think Living World is too:

[ ] Hard
[x] Time Consuming
[x] Temporary FLUFF
[x] Full of Jumping Puzzles

You :

[x] Quit
[ ] Uninstall
[ ] Feed Colins’ Dog Zhaitaffy so he farts up his place
[x ] ARE NOT Upset anymore
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That´s right, I quit a while back after my first and only Aetherblades invasion.
Disgustedly suffering through as much of the stupid zergfest that I was able to stomach.

Now my frustrations are at a minimum and I even like Colin´s dog(more).
I still check back from time to time, but see only slight change to the underlying concept of living world and its core problem.
Zerg and more grind.

Sure, permanent upgrades to Tequila(& others) are now in and Twilight will loose the (supposedly)worst path. But somehow it´s not nearly enough to lure me back in.
It´s still mainly fluff temporary content, as this new path will surely go away too when the living story line moves awkwardly on.

Please check all that apply.
You are:
[ ] Married
[ ] Have Girlfriend
[ ] Employed
[ ] Have Pets
[ ] Have Children
[ x] Are an Adult
[ x] Have a Life
[ ] Have no Manual Dexterity
You Think Living World is too:
[ ] Hard
[ x] Time Consuming – I need to farm and grind for my legendary and ascended gear
[ x] Temporary – really don’t have time to waste i need to faaaaarm and griiiind
[ ] Full of Jumping Puzzles
You are Currently Threatening to:
[ x] Quit
[ ] Uninstall
[ ] Kick Colins’ Dog
[ x] Tell the Internet That You are Upset

Bovinity.8610:

[x] Married
[x] Have Girlfriend

Heeeeeey now!

As a wise man once said, all guys want girlfriends, but their wives wont let them, well it seems we got the one rare exception.

P.S. to people checking off you are a adult, i dont think anyone can say they are “adults”, we are all still some part kid that we like to embrace if you like playing games.
Ok or you are just a casual kittenweed.

ANET “could” sell past Living Stories as content permanently added to an account….

err.. ouch.. did i just give them more ideas to make money ?

EDIT :
of course, not all LS, but content like SAB etc…

Are we still doing this? i like filling things out.

[X] Married
[ ] Have Girlfriend
[X] Employed
[X] Have Pets – one crazy cat!
[X] Have Children – one crazy (cute) son!
[X] Are an Adult (i’d like to think so.. or do i? XDDD)
[X] Have a Life (both IRL and in Tyria!!!)
[ ] Have no Manual Dexterity

You Think Living World is too:

[ ] Hard
[X] Time Consuming – namely my completionist speaking out
[X] Temporary
[ ] Full of Jumping Puzzles

You are Currently Threatening to:

[ ] Quit
[ ] Uninstall
[ ] Kick Colins’ Dog
[ ] Tell the Internet That You are Upset
[X] The only time I ever threatened was to open some secret cave with trapped trolls

I’m not gonna call quits, cause i do still massively enjoy the game. but with each LS release, i’m either trying to get all the achievements done and forget to “play” the game. i think there’s a fine line between “playing” the game normall and getting achievements and “playing” the game FOR achievements. one is enjoyment oriented, the other is goal oriented. not saying having goals isn’t fun.. it’s just everything seems rushed – the release, the testing, then having to fix potential bugs, then it being taken away, while i rush to finish content before it’s taken away, then having to prep for incmonig content… rinse and repeat rinse and repeat…

in the end, it’s me. i am a completionist (though i’ve already started to let certain achievements go as long as i got the meta. but that makes me sadpandabear), and i like to get to experience everything fully.. which with the 2 week release, doesn’t allow me to do at times i feel. though one thing for sure, it’s getting me logging on as much as i can. so it’s just about that balance. and how much of your playerbase enjoy the 2 week releases. and how many that don’t.

You know, a couple people asked, but why IS is temporary? If I was a new player to the game, I’d feel a little cheated and less ‘loyal’ than those who got to see all the content from the start.

Heck, add a yearly ‘time warp’ for those people and others who want to revisit the content missed. Make it happen around New Years if possible.

That way, it can literally be a Year in Review.

Just a suggestion.

if they would ADD all the living story content as Perm now it would be basically a Big content Update to the game.

right now we almost don’t have anything bicous of this Temporal lamefest.

Lets try it too…. please check all that apply.

You are:

[ ] Married
[x ] Have Girlfriend
[x ] Employed
[x ] Have Pets
[ ] Have Children
[x ] Are an Adult
[x ] Have a Life
[ ] Have no Manual Dexterity

You Think Living World is too:

[ ] Hard
[ ] Time Consuming
[ ] Temporary
[ ] Full of Jumping Puzzles

You are Currently Threatening to:

[x ] Quit
[x ] Uninstall
[x ] Kick Colins’ Dog
[x ] Tell the Internet That You are Upset
[x ] Kick Colins’ Cat
[x ] Reinstall
[x ] Keep Playing

Please check all that apply.
You are:
[x] Married
[ ] Have Girlfriend
[x] Employed
[x] Have Pets————-3 (one gorgeouse dog and two crazy cats)
[ ] Have Children
[x] Are an Adult
[x] Have a Life
[ ] Have no Manual Dexterity
You Think Living World is too:
[ ] Hard
[x] Time Consuming—— Only in so far as it puts pressure on folks to log in constantly or miss out on the progressing story.
[x] Temporary————- I do not buy a book to only be able to read every 3rd chapter.
[ ] Full of Jumping Puzzles
You are Currently Threatening to:
[x] Quit————-not quit but definitely reduced game time now that I am out of the loop of the story with no way to see it in game.
[ ] Uninstall
[ ] Kick Colins’ Dog
[x] Tell the Internet That You are Upset

For what little it’s worth…

You are:
[X] Married
[ ] Have Girlfriend
[ ] Employed
[ ] Have Pets
[ ] Have Children
[X] Are an Adult
[ ] Have a Life
[ ] Have no Manual Dexterity

You Think Living World is too:
[ ] Hard
[X] Time Consuming
[X] Temporary
[ ] Full of Jumping Puzzles
[X] Repetitive and frequently tedious
[X] Encouraging of frantic zerging which is stressful and un-fun

You are Currently Threatening to:
[X] Quit
[ ] Uninstall
[ ] Kick Colins’ Dog
[X] Tell the Internet That You are Upset
[X] Just sort of fade away and find other things to do with my time

Some type of ‘endgame’ is needed to keep people interested once they have finished levelling all the characters they wish to, and exploring the world. I’m just not sure that the Living Story as currently implemented is working.

Please check all that apply.

You are:

[ ] Married
[x] Have Boyfriend
[ ] Employed
[x] Have Pets
[x] Have Children
[x] Are an Adult
[ ] Have a Life
[ ] Have no Manual Dexterity

You Think Living World is too:

[ ] Hard
[x] Time Limited/Consuming
[x] Temporary
[ ] Full of Jumping Puzzles

You are Currently Threatening to:

[ ] Quit
[ ] Uninstall
[ ] Kick Colins’ Dog
[x] Tell the Internet That You are Upset
[x] Not Play As Much As I Used To

As much as I wish that the content could be more permanent or at least via some means be replayed, I feel that lengthening the release schedule would be a good compromise all round.

BobbyStein.2315:

I can empathize with having a busy life and not always being able to fit my gaming schedule in between work, home life, and social commitments. Your comments are not lost on us.

We’re exploring some ideas for the future, including a system that would allow certain bits of Living World content to be accessed independent of the release. Plans and designs have not been solidified yet, so I want to temper your expectations. But if you have any opinions on the matter feel free to let us know. We’re already looking at ways to leave some LW content behind to evolve Tyria and improve the game. This would be one element of it, should we decide to build such a feature.

Oh when I read this, when you are on that, please also don’t forget to reemphasize on your principles of “fanservice” again, which seems, that you partwisely must have forgotten, what this is/means.

Looking onto the current halloween event, which is a big disappointment for many players, especially new players which weren’t last year there as also especially all of those of us, which could have participated on last years event basically, but practically weren’t able to do so thanks to a ton of (insert tons of swearing insults here) anti social hackers who have infected the whole game for like half a year after the game got released.
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Its no good fanservice to bring not back the achievements and the scavenger hunt of the last years halloween back, basically presenting a middle finger right into the faces of every new player as also all hacked players from the last year, due to the game having had in the first months some extreme security issues!!!

It would show of you, that you devs are creative, by bringing back the Mad Memoires as rewards this time just with a new different scavenger hunt, so that thet quest for that fashion item doesn’t destroy last years lore…

It wouldn’t hurt anyone at all, if you would let people collect for carving pumpkins again for the master carver title, especially due to the point that the achievement was BUGGED last year and the hot fix of that bug screwed over alot of peoples progression for the title by resettign it back to 0

So for the sake of this game, please remember back, what it means to offer fanservice in a game. Good fanservice surely isnt game design where you split up the community between blach and white, when it comes down to earning achievements/titles, earning holiday event rewards like the Mad Memoires, which was just a little nice quest for a fashin item, which every player should be able to earn it, regardless of which halloween we will have, be it this halloween or the halloween in 5 years. Even new players in five years should be able to get a Mad memoires for their account – this would be true good fanservice where you don’t split up your community into black and white.

Everyone deserves to have the same chances and options, regardless if you are a veretan of the first hour, or if you joined the game just a few months ago …
Newer players should just have to wait only for the next chance, but that can be sonsidered as normal, when you have missed something, that you should show then at least the endurance to wait for your next new chance, if you truly want to earn something in the game that you want.

Please rethink on your stance towards reimplementing old content from holiday events.
Please, I’d really like to have an official statement from you on this Bobby, what are your thoughts about this ???

Will you keep on alienating your playerbase in future by the upcoming next holiday event – wintersday, or can we except in future something better of anet in regard of fanservice that you let us allow to play also last years content of halloween and upcoming holiday events if we missed the content of those years events.

Would it really have been so hard for you to reactivate for this event the master carver title and the scavenger hunt for Mad memoires? I think not.
Are you not creative enough, to redesign the old event’s content, so that it fits into this year’s halloween and still rewards players with the same things from last year??
I truly think this is not the case.

And another crappy addition to Farming Story. Sure thing.

You are:
[ ] Married
[ ] Have Girlfriend
[x] Employed
[ ] Have Pets
[ ] Have Children
[x] Are an Adult
[x] Have a Life
[ ] Have no Manual Dexterity
[x] Climb Mountains

You Think Living World is too:
[ ] Hard
[ ] Time Consuming
[x] Temporary
[ ] Full of Jumping Puzzles
[x] Now rushed and poorly thought out due to lack of time given to the dev team to create something new

You are Currently Threatening to:
[ ] Quit
[ ] Uninstall
[ ] Kick Colins’ Dog
[x] Tell the Internet That You are Upset
[x] Just treat Living World a “Background Noise” with the added option to get the odd bit of extra snazzy gear

Bovinity.8610:

We should make a form letter for people to fill out, because these posts always follow the same format.

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Please check all that apply.

You are:

[ ] Married
[ x] Have no Boyfriend
[ ] Employed
[x ] Have great dane puppy
[ ] Have Children
[ x] Are an Adult
[x ] Have a Life (acting,modeling, movie editing and soon managing my own restaurant)
[ ] Have no Manual Dexterity

You Think Living World is too:

[x] much pve oriented (happy to finally some wvw achievements).living story could use some spvp specials aswell.
[ ] Hard
[ ] Time Consuming
[ ] Temporary
[ ] Full of Jumping Puzzles

You are Currently Threatening to:

[ ] Quit
[ ] Uninstall
[ ] Kick Colins’ Dog
[ ] Tell the Internet That You are Upset
[x] go to pay anets balance team a visit to talk about my mesmer in wvw.
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Thank you!

BobbyStein.2315:

I can empathize with having a busy life and not always being able to fit my gaming schedule in between work, home life, and social commitments. Your comments are not lost on us.

We’re exploring some ideas for the future, including a system that would allow certain bits of Living World content to be accessed independent of the release. Plans and designs have not been solidified yet, so I want to temper your expectations. But if you have any opinions on the matter feel free to let us know. We’re already looking at ways to leave some LW content behind to evolve Tyria and improve the game. This would be one element of it, should we decide to build such a feature.

That seems like you are doubling down on an already failed strategy. You don’t need to find ways to bring back bits of Living Story content after the related events, you need to admit what is completely obvious, which is that Living Story has been a complete failure of a content delivery strategy.

I can’t see myself returning to this game unless and until you guys wake up, admit that Living Story was the wrong path to take and get back to actually making the world feel alive via ever expanding and changing Dynamic Events.

I was a paying customer, with two accounts, who used to spend a fair bit more than the subscription equivalent on both accounts each month. I loved this game more than any MMO that had come before. You guys have driven me from the game and made me hate what Arenanet 2013 has become.

There is nothing worse than people in charge who just won’t admit their mistakes and continue to throw good money after bad.

LS was an experiment. The experiment was a failure. It’s months beyond the time when you should have moved on. The game can still be saved, but not as long as you guys remain in a state of complete denial.

A truly living world grows and changes. Most of Tyria is pretty much the same as it was in beta, and it hasn’t really grown much at all.

I love the game — I consider it the best I’ve ever played — but it just feels increasingly stale as time goes by.

I would log in and play more if the list of new things to do was longer than the list of things I can no longer do.

Majic.4801:

A truly living world grows and changes. Most of Tyria is pretty much the same as it was in beta, and it hasn’t really grown much at all.

I love the game — I consider it the best I’ve ever played — but it just feels increasingly stale as time goes by.

I would log in and play more if the list of new things to do was longer than the list of things I can no longer do.

Well they add new stuff every 2 weeks… but I don’t feel like trying it out at all after all the bad experiences with living story. It just isn’t attractive anymore. Haven’t tried any part of it for over 2 months.

Considering they added a link on FB about ‘’expressing your idea regarding Living story’’ i thought this thread should stay really up the section.
The idea itself its not that bad, but I must admit tbh some of them is kinda unpleasant.
The last ones becoming a lot grindy, boring and sometimes, related to stuff i dont really enjoy (e.g. SAB or this WvW bulkitten) . I also can’t really face to play wvw any day in order to finish them due to Queues on the server I am at the very moment – like 2h average – (seriously, can’t you improve the capacity of the areas or whatever in order to not get insane queues even late at night?).
It’s nice way for those who are top Achivements to have some extras but really, at times it gets blue for us..

For many ppl living story is kinda a major turn off: ‘’Omg ill never do this, i’ll never finish that, I’d like to do it but its too grindy and i dont’ have the time needed’’ and yada yada.
Time gating and grind are ruining a bit the game at this state.
My 2 cent: Living story staying at least for a month (or being permanent wouldn’t hurt either), and less ’’kill an horde of sentries and dollies" -.-

BobbyStein.2315:

I can empathize with having a busy life and not always being able to fit my gaming schedule in between work, home life, and social commitments. Your comments are not lost on us.

Create new content that stays there until it is played by a player. Once done he cannot go back to it. New content can only be accessed once you done old.

No more level 15-20 maps. The maps change based on how your character develops. People playing their first Halloween get last years Halloween (updated if needed). Then the story pogressses with a new Halloween. Of course this requires some decent upgrades and planning what you do.

You can still change overall things in the game as you like.

And you will have more logons and played hours as it actively gives more reasons to play alts. Maybe even tie the world progression for your characters based on hours played?

You can start anytime with any map. If you have for example full map completion, level 80 characters with what ever AP and hours played you move on in the world as it changes around you. Newer players and new character get the old version until they grew out of it.

But for that: an overall story arc needs to be written, still can be filled out as needed with details, but it must be there. Any professional writer can provide you with this (not talking some game industry writer). It will provide you an outline how the world is supposed to change.

You can even produce it way in advance… The changes don’t need to be drastic. They just need to provide a feeling the world changed. Players will be amazed.

But one thing is for sure: you need to provide more quality regarding content when thinking ahead instead of making it up as you go. But the actual work for every new content will be less as you working towards a goal.

A good start could be: people completed the living story, now Orr starts to change slowly as they play (maybe hours on the map?). While playing some new threat in Queensdale emerge. They check it out, they play it a bit and progress there. Could all be old content. It can be subtle changes, but changes need to happen all the time.

What you guys at Anet probably thinking about is instancing older stuff similar to Fractals, where you can enter some old instance or map version. That will not really help, the world around players need to change as they play and the more they play.

This will keep them playing and creating more daily logins and played hours.

There are so many possibilities to create a real living world.

Please check all that apply.
You are:
[X] Married
[ ] Have Girlfriend
[X] Employed
[X] Have Pets
[X] Have Children
[X] Are an Adult
[X] Have a Life
[] Have no Manual Dexterity
You Think Living World is too:
[ ] Hard
[ ] Time Consuming
[X] Temporary
[] Full of Jumping Puzzles
[] Meaningless
You are Currently Threatening to:
[ ] Quit
[ ] Uninstall
[ ] Kick Colins’ Dog
[ ] Tell the Internet That You are Upset
[X] not spend anything in the Gem Store

IMO right now Anet resigned on quality and overflow us with quantity.

[ ] Married
[ ] Have Girlfriend
[X] Employed
[ ] Have Pets
[ ] Have Children
[ ] Are an Adult
[ ] Have a Life
[ ] Have no Manual Dexterity

You Think Living World is too:

[ ] Hard
[X] Time Consuming
[X] Temporary
[ ] Full of Jumping Puzzles

You are Currently Threatening to:

[X] Quit
[X] Uninstall
[X] Kick Colins’ Dog
[X] Tell the Internet That You are Upset

[ ] Married
[ ] Have Girl/Boyfriend (LOL)
[X] Employed
[ ] Have Pets
[ ] Have Children
[X] Are an Adult
[X] Have a Life
[X] Have no Manual Dexterity
[X] Are in College

You Think Living World is too:

[ ] Hard
[X] Time Consuming
[X] Temporary
[ ] Full of Jumping Puzzles

You are Currently Threatening to:

[ ] Quit
[ ] Uninstall
[ ] Kick Colin’s Dog (I would, but I love dogs.)
[X] Tell the Internet That You are Upset

Dear Internet,

I am upset.

Sincerely,
Me

Please check all that apply.
You are:
[ ] Married
[ ] Have Girlfriend
[X] Self-Employed
[ ] Have Pets
[ ] Have Children
[X] Are an Adult
[X] Have a Life
[] Have no Manual Dexterity
You Think Living World is too:
[ ] Hard
[X] Time Consuming
[X] Temporary
[] Full of Jumping Puzzles
[X] Meaningless
You are Currently Threatening to:
[X] Quit
[X] Uninstall
[ ] Kick Colins’ Dog
[X] Tell the Internet That You are Upset
[X] Not spend anything in the Gem Store
[XXX] Dissuade my friends/followers/family from ever purchasing anything related with NCSoft/ArenaNet ever again.

You are:

[ ] Married
[X] Have Girlfriend
[ ] Employed
[X] Have Pets
[ ] Have Children
[X] Are an Adult
[X] Have a Life
[ ] Have no Manual Dexterity

You Think Living World is too:

[ ] Hard
[X] Time Consuming
[X] Temporary
[X] Full of Jumping Puzzles

You have already:

[X] Quit
[ ] Uninstall
[ ] Kick Colins’ Dog
[ ] Tell the Internet That You are Upset

You are:
[ ] Married
[ ] Have Girlfriend
[x] Employed
[x] Have Pets
[ ] Have Children
[x] Are an Adult
[x] Have a Life
[ ] Have no Manual Dexterity

You Think Living World is too:
[ ] Hard
[ ] Time Consuming
[ ] Temporary
[x] Short of Jumping Puzzles

You are Currently Threatening to:
[ ] Quit
[ ] Uninstall
[ ] Kick Colins’ Dog
[ ] Tell the Internet That You are Upset
[x] Spend more of my free time playing

You are:
[ ] Married
[ ] Have Girlfriend
[X] Employed
[] Have Pets
[ ] Have Children
[X] Are an Adult
[X] Have a Life
[ ] Have no Manual Dexterity

You Think Living World is too:
[X] Hard (Some)
[X] Time Consuming
[X] Temporary
[X] Short of Jumping Puzzles
[X] Repetitive

You are Currently Threatening to:
[X ] Quit
[ ] Uninstall
[ ] Kick Colins’ Dog
[X] Tell the internet that you are upset
[X] Wasting time to see what’s next

Please check all that apply.

You are:

[ ] Married
[x] Have Girlfriend
[x] Employed
[x] Have Pets
[ ] Have Children
[x] Are an Adult
[?] Have a Life -This is largely consumed by #2, #3, and GW2!
[ ] Have no Manual Dexterity

You Think Living World is too:

[ ] Hard
[x] Time Consuming
[x] Temporary
[ ] Full of Jumping Puzzles

You are Currently Threatening to:

[ ] Quit
[ ] Uninstall
[ ] Kick Colins’ Dog
[ ] Tell the Internet That You are Upset
[x] Continue playing happily, though could be happier

Typically, the argument for the LW being too temporary revolves around people wanting the LW updates to be permanent. I like the fact that the ‘event’ only lasts a short while, though 4-6 weeks (perhaps overlapping) would seem nice to me. When I say that they are too temporary, what I mean is that they rarely have enough of a lasting impact on the world after they are done. It seems quite the opposite of a ‘Living World’ when things are largely episodic and usually go back to a stable state at the close of the event.

BobbyStein.2315:

We’re already looking at ways to leave some LW content behind to evolve Tyria and improve the game.

This, at least to me, devalues the LW content even more. The only reason that you have huge turnouts to the LW content when it releases is because they know that this is temporary. I am sure that opinions are split on if this is a good thing or not, but to me the masses of people all working together on the ‘new stuff’ is what makes the game feel like an MMO. If they can go back and do the content whenever they feel like it this motivation is gone, and it will be just a slightly higher volume of open world content. Which on some Worlds is already quite lonely.

[X] Married
[ ] Have Girlfriend
[ ] Employed
[X] Have Pets
[X] Have Children
[X] Are an Adult
[ ] Have a Life
[ ] Have no Manual Dexterity
You Think Living World is too:
[ ] Hard
[ ] Time Consuming
[X] Temporary
[ ] Full of Jumping Puzzles
You are Currently Threatening to:
[X] Quit (already taking a break due to equal parts LS boring and inconsequential, as well as the skyrocketing gem prices)(plus I’m still bitter they put that useless Crown Pavilion in place of one of the few places that I really liked to stroll through)
[ ] Uninstall
[ ] Kick Colins’ Dog
[ ] Tell the Internet That You are Upset

Bovinity.8610:

[ ] Married
[ ] Have Girlfriend
[ ] Employed
[ ] Have Pets
[ ] Have Children
[x ] Are an Adult
[x ] Have a Life
[ ] Have no Manual Dexterity

You Think Living World is too:

[ ] Hard
[x ] Time Consuming
[x ] Temporary
[ ] Full of Jumping Puzzles
[x ] Cycles through too quickly
You are Currently Threatening to:

[ ] Quit
[ ] Uninstall
[ ] Kick Colins’ Dog
[x ] Tell the Internet That You are Upset

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Thank you!

Sign’d

Please check all that apply.

You are:

[ ] Married
[ ] Have Girlfriend
[x] Single
[x] Employed
[ ] Have Pets
[ ] Have Children
[x] Are an Adult
[x] Have a Life
[ ] Have no Manual Dexterity

You Think Living World is too:

[ ] Hard
[x] Time Consuming
[x] Temporary
[x] Disjointed
[x] Grindy
[ ] Full of Jumping Puzzles

You are Currently Threatening to:

[ ] Quit
[ ] Uninstall
[ ] Kick Colins’ Dog
[ ] Tell the Internet That You are Upset
[x] continue playing even though I dislike a great deal of what is going on
[x] dissuade others from buying the game

Since they insist on maintaining this foolish 2-week release cadence, they need to reduce the amount of play required for the meta, thereby leaving players time to play other content. You know, dungeons, fractals, DEs? You know, the GAME? That’s been my biggest gripe: I spend all my time playing LS and don’t get to level my alts, or do WvW, because if I don’t do the LS it’ll be gone in a few days and I miss out. If they insist on releasing every 2 weeks, make it possible to finish the meta in 1 week. Reduce the meta requirements from 10-14 achievements down to 5-6, so I can spend that other week playing other parts of the game.

BobbyStein.2315:

I can empathize with having a busy life and not always being able to fit my gaming schedule in between work, home life, and social commitments. Your comments are not lost on us.

We’re exploring some ideas for the future, including a system that would allow certain bits of Living World content to be accessed independent of the release. Plans and designs have not been solidified yet, so I want to temper your expectations. But if you have any opinions on the matter feel free to let us know. We’re already looking at ways to leave some LW content behind to evolve Tyria and improve the game. This would be one element of it, should we decide to build such a feature.

Or the team can make a “Past Story” where players can revisit these contents, get their achievements and etc.

Now, you have a Living Story where the story goes on and a Past Story where adventures can still revisit what they may have missed.

Not only it offers replay value, it also offers more contents where players don’t need to feel they are being rush to get everything done. Now they can take their time enjoy the story while get their achievements, etc.

“Living Story” & “Past Story”

I decided that I would feel infinitely better about the Living Story if it somehow ties back into the dragons, like many people have suggested. The suggestion I favored was “the entire ordeal with Scarlet is just an elaborate orchestration from the Elder Dragon Mordremoth” or something of that nature.

How about making some sort of time machine were you can travel back in the past and do all the events you missed ?

Killface.1896:

How about making some sort of time machine were you can travel back in the past and do all the events you missed ?

Seems like a good idea. Should also give players the rewards for doing them I think. It’s not like people don’t earn it after all.

Please check all that apply.

You are:

[X] Married
[ ] Have Girlfriend
[X] Employed
[ ] Have Pets
[X] Have Children
[X] Are an Adult
[X] Have a Life
[ ] Have no Manual Dexterity

You Think Living World is too:

[ ] Hard
[X] Time Consuming
[X] Temporary
[ ] Full of Jumping Puzzles
[X] Every 2 weeks is too much to handle

You are Currently Threatening to:

[X] Quit
[X] Uninstall
[ ] Kick Colins’ Dog
[ ] Tell the Internet That You are Upset

I guess I am the minority that actually married and have kids and playing this game? Yes, you usually don’t have time to play any games when you have kids… how sad…
I really enjoy GW2 for its design, doesn’t need to have a big group, have the fun of “raiding” something with other people and can find pick up group pretty easy doing dungeon stuffs. The Living Story was good in the beginning but and then when it becomes once every 2 weeks, it starts to feel like “work” to get the achievements done. Sure some of you may say that I don’t need to chase after every achievements, but its just my personality to “complete things”, I started not to enjoying it as much as before. Like my previous MMO addictions, it will come to a point that I will just have to uninstall the game and quit it for good, did it for Everquest, did it for WoW, may be I need to do it with GW2 as well soon if nothing changes…

I am not trying to threaten to quit, I know I am just the minority here, I am just expressing how I feel about the current state of the game and I wish the living world isn’t that frequent or some how we can play the LW again and get that achievement in later time…