Guild Wars 2

It seems like with every update it becomes harder and harder to get the ones you actually want/need. So far I’ve killed roughly ~6 bosses and have yet to get a single item that’s useful for either of the two collections (and yes, I’m using the correct extractor). And it’s gonna get even harder when they add the new parts for the last two armor pieces. I’m getting pretty kitten tired of running the events and the Breach over and over again with no parts to take me forward.

And you guessed it, I also never got shoulder, glove or boot boxes of any kind. Some people just don’t have the luck these kinds of item acquisitions require.

So what’s the solution? Simple – remove the previous items from the loot table. You have extractors designed to get the fang or the tendon, specifically! Let people who want those use the items you put up for sale! Anyone else will have a chance on getting the current collection items, you can keep the heart there as a 100 crest bonus.

It seems fairly obvious by now how they intended this to be. If you want the item NOW you must rely on RNG but after each release the previous one’s item is a guarantee. Their solution is obviously “just wait until the next release”.

Enjoy the grind – even more so if you don’t want to wait for the next explicit extractor to be released.

Krestfallen.8025:

Yup! If you want to complete content released for this week’s update, just wait two weeks for the next update! It’s the perfect plan! Huzzah!! /endsarcasm.

In all seriousness though, I don’t mind RNG farming for these parts, but that’s only cause I happen to have the extra free time right now.
But what’s really frustrating is watching all my friends who were coming back to “test the waters” peace out because of “Anet’s typical bullkitten.”

I know it’s super controversial to debate what Anet meant when they said they wanted a game with no more grind, but I swear… sometimes I feel like things were easier to accomplish way back in the days of Everquest.

I guess what I’m saying is that I miss the old Arena Net, the one that wanted to create something new and innovative in the genre. Not this tired, cynical Anet that’s just pumping out the same repetitive, tedious content I can/could have found in any game.

It’s called stretching out content, that’s why you can’t skip cut scenes anymore.

Traveller.7496:

It seems like with every update it becomes harder and harder to get the ones you actually want/need. So far I’ve killed roughly ~6 bosses and have yet to get a single item that’s useful for either of the two collections (and yes, I’m using the correct extractor). And it’s gonna get even harder when they add the new parts for the last two armor pieces. I’m getting pretty kitten tired of running the events and the Breach over and over again with no parts to take me forward.

And you guessed it, I also never got shoulder, glove or boot boxes of any kind. Some people just don’t have the luck these kinds of item acquisitions require.

So what’s the solution? Simple – remove the previous items from the loot table. You have extractors designed to get the fang or the tendon, specifically! Let people who want those use the items you put up for sale! Anyone else will have a chance on getting the current collection items, you can keep the heart there as a 100 crest bonus.

You think that’s bad. Well after getting the bladder and wondering why it doesn’t unlock in my collection I took a closer look and the bosses only half a fricking bladder! That’s right mate, you have to get it twice and combine them to a full one.

Crovax.7854:

You think that’s bad. Well after getting the bladder and wondering why it doesn’t unlock in my collection I took a closer look and the bosses only half a fricking bladder! That’s right mate, you have to get it twice and combine them to a full one.

Probably will need 4 pieces to complete the organ for the chest piece. Got to keep Timewaste an active map somehow.

Vlad Morbius.1759:

It’s called stretching out content, that’s why you can’t skip cut scenes anymore.

That’s basically— in a much less cynical and snarky way- what I was getting at. Now, I don’t know nothin’ about nothin’, but it seemed to me that back when GW2 was being developed it felt like the Devs were aiming to create a game that didn’t rely on the old MMO staple/handicap of forced repitition for the sake of faux longevity.

I guess I’m just lamenting that these Season 2 updates seem to be slowly alluding to an abandonment of that experiment. And don’t get me wrong, I’m not ragging on the devs or anything; we all know that players will always consume content faster than any developer can produce it.

It’s just a little sad to see the dream die. That’s all.

sigh kitten it, I’m done.

The silver wastes was initially interesting-I actually found it fun (like the first time since the ‘oooh, new, shiny’ initial phase of gw2-there was a mild ‘oh this is kinda fun’ with the original QP and Lion’s Arch assault but just mild). But really; increasing RNG, horrible, insulting, uninspired, predictable story which matching embarrasing dialogue, obvious in-your-face political messages (I was still waiting for your black community to be ‘represented’ in game, btw-normally I don’t care whether my race is in a game but since you used that bullkitten to validate…woosaaah), this constant kitten-slap with the idiot ball to advance the plot (linked to my complaint about the ridiculous story), this utter waste of time LS installment-nothing really happens/resolves in any of these episodes, poor, poor structure (e.g. unecessary boss fights thrown in because, well the episode is coming to an end and obviously we need a boss fight even if it makes no bloody sense) yeah-all this added to the numerous reasons I decided to take extended breaks from the game which still persist…sigh

I had initially planned to play this on and off until EQN but this is an exercise in torture in virtually every experience (the combat animations and engine itself is enjoyable however). Besides out of the 50 or so contacts I’ve made in game (some irl, others in-game) only 1, ONE has been online since I came back…and for the past week or so I haven’t even seen him. Sucks that I can’t resell the game to soften the blow but yeah no-this whole luminescent armor RANDOM GRIND and story/mechanic padding philosophy just isn’t worth my peace of mind.

‘Nobody likes grind’ <-True
‘We don’t make grindy games’ <-You kiss your mother with that mouth?

Crovax.7854:

You think that’s bad. Well after getting the bladder and wondering why it doesn’t unlock in my collection I took a closer look and the bosses only half a fricking bladder! That’s right mate, you have to get it twice and combine them to a full one.

Haha, I didn’t actually even realize that. That’s just so wrong. Of course, someone will point out that you don’t have to grind for the luminescent armor … and I think I will indeed call it a day here. The regular armor will do.

You guys realize that you will be able to buy white extractors 2 weeks after episode release, that will get you exactly the parts you need, right?

You only rely on RNG if you want all the new stuff immediately.

What they’re doing was suggested a while ago. Some people wanted unique rewards for playing in a specific zone. This isn’t temporary content. You don’t have to grind it out now and it’s not like you need it either. Alternatively, hop servers to farm breaches back to back while it’s active.

Pixelpumpkin.4608:

You guys realize that you will be able to buy white extractors 2 weeks after episode release, that will get you exactly the parts you need, right?

You only rely on RNG if you want all the new stuff immediately.

Yeah, how silly of me to want to play the content and get the associated rewards when they come out and not next episode. You are right though, if one has terrible rng there is an alternative even though waiting isn’t fun (f2p games anyone?). Neither is grinding for crests. I opened ~250 chests since patch and haven’t gotten a single carapace piece. That’s 1250 crests plus some gold and the time it takes to even find that many chests.

My fear however is that the new extractors are available only during the last episode which most likely begins in january since ANet stated they won’t release Winters Day and LS at the same time.
So I have to wait 2 months and then play a new slot machine for chest and helmet? Wow…

You now farm the LFG tool in hope of finding a map near breach or getting seizure due to how much blinking it does….

I think you would benefit from learning how to be patient, my young padawan.

Oh, or not. I guess you;re one of those people who buys time-gated materials on release day for hundreds of gold while I sit and make a pretty penny and craft my own stuff a few weeks later… with your money.

:)

Anyways, you have options: grind, or wait. ANet is not obligated to give you all the rewards immediately and for minimum effort. You just have to decide what’s more important to you, to get them as fast as possible or with little effort, but later. If that’s not a decision you can make, or if you’re not enjoying yourself based on your own choice, it seems weird to me that you would should at ANet for it.

The rewards worked differently in the past – where we didn’t have this choice – and ANet was criticized for it. Now they changed it up. But I guess it’s still not good enough for “BUT I WANT IT NAO BUT I DON’T WANT TO WORK FOR IT EITHER” kind of players…

Healix.5819:

This isn’t temporary content. You don’t have to grind it out now and it’s not like you need it either. Alternatively, hop servers to farm breaches back to back while it’s active.

Good luck trying to complete these events successfully with 10 other people when the story has moved on from Silverwastes.

I have been hopping servers from breach to breach. The problem is that the loottable is so diverse already there’s fewer chance to get the specific items. Doing a breach after another got old in the first SW release, but I guess the alternative is to “wait until the next release!” Great!

^^ I don’t mind working for a reward. I just hate “random” as a means of getting it. I thought that’s why ANet chose to include dungeon tokens instead of a random chest drop in the end, so that “random” would not be the deciding factor. You could still get something and work your way toward the reward.

Last few releases , I’ve done countless SW events for crests, but only the first release got the balance right. There was grind, but it wasn’t too bad. Every release since has gone worse and worse.

Traveller.7496:

Healix.5819:

This isn’t temporary content. You don’t have to grind it out now and it’s not like you need it either. Alternatively, hop servers to farm breaches back to back while it’s active.

Good luck trying to complete these events successfully with 10 other people when the story has moved on from Silverwastes.

I have been hopping servers from breach to breach. The problem is that the loottable is so diverse already there’s fewer chance to get the specific items. Doing a breach after another got old in the first SW release, but I guess the alternative is to “wait until the next release!” Great!

You can kill each boss with 5 people, thanks to scaling. I’ve killed one with 3 people.

As for mordrem parts, I hear that it is possible to tag all four bosses, netting you 4 parts per breach. I wouldn’t recommend it, since it clearly is unfair towards the players that actually try and kill the bosses.

Lastly, the fact that you get a mordrem part (guaranteed) whether you kill the boss or not, should also be taken into consideration. So not, you don’t have to kill them at all. You can tag the boss, then sit in a corner or die in a fire for all the game cares, and you’ll still get your mordrem part.

It’s really not nearly as dire as you are painting it right now.

Pixelpumpkin.4608:

I think you would benefit from learning how to be patient, my young padawan.

Oh, or not. I guess you;re one of those people who buys time-gated materials on release day for hundreds of gold while I sit and make a pretty penny and craft my own stuff a few weeks later… with your money.

:)

Actually I buy my mats a few days/weeks later when people like you who think they’re clever for waiting sell them for a fraction of their inital price

Krestfallen.8025:

It’s just a little sad to see the dream die. That’s all.

I agree completely, it’s been a really hard coming to that realization especially after following this since it was but an idea talked about online.

Pixelpumpkin.4608:

Lastly, the fact that you get a mordrem part (guaranteed) whether you kill the boss or not, should also be taken into consideration. So not, you don’t have to kill them at all. You can tag the boss, then sit in a corner or die in a fire for all the game cares, and you’ll still get your mordrem part.

But it still won’t be the one you want. That’s the whole point. You could do a 100 events and not get the one you need. Will they add extractors for all parts in the next release, so people can pick whatever parts they require? Who knows. I’d like to work on my armors in this update but my horrible RNG luck is preventing it. I’d like an alternative, that’s why I suggested the extractors working differently.

Again, if you don’t want to wait, that’s your decision and consequently your problem.

But for the record, I had 7-10 of each mordrem bag saved up from the last release (I stopped opening them after I had all the fangs I needed) and that was enough to get all spleens and bladder parts. Now I’m back to not even opening the bags, in preparation for the next release.

If this strategy failed me, however, I would have no problem knowing that if that last bladder thingie just won’t drop for me, I’ll just get it, guaranteed, in a single one final boss breach, on December 16. This year, not 2025. It is 12 days away. Good enough. (Let’s be real though, in 12 days of GW2, if you play as much as you make the impression you do, it WILL drop.)

You aren’t helping at all Pixelpumpkin. People are expressing to ANet how they feel the way the collection of mordrem parts has been designed is bad and not at all enjoyable. This includes having to wait until the next patch in order to buy a more expensive extractor for a guaranteed part AND having to get TWO bladders. Nor is you being judgmental about people wanting to play and obtain the current at all fair when you label people as impatient or not wanting to work for things.

Traveller.7496:

Good luck trying to complete these events successfully with 10 other people when the story has moved on from Silverwastes.

I can confirm that you can push a breach solo (I had a private map on patch day), defend a level 1 defense fort solo (each successful defense increases the difficulty) and kill the thrasher, troll and the teragriffs solo (breach). The husk can probably also be done solo, but I don’t have a condition spec. It is however definitely not worth the effort and time required.

I also doubt the zone will ever die out unless something far more rewarding is added. People still farm world bosses after all.

Not to mention that the Silverwastes is actually even better for karma farming than EotM. (Not so much for levelling, since low level characters aren’t upscaled.) The loot from Silverwastes is also much better than EotM, especially during the Labyrinth phase. It is, however, quite tedious and repetitive, so I can only do it for short bursts.

I’m sure the RNG will be teeth-grindingly bad this week (and even worse 2 weeks later), but I’ve decided to take the patient way. I’m just going to slowly farm the 3000 Bandit Crests I need for the Boots. If I get the Mordrem parts I need as a result of it, great! If not, I’ll just get them 2 weeks later when the guaranteed extractors are released. No doubt we’ll need yet another 3000 Crests for one of the final 2 pieces, so I’ll be doing Silverwastes for a while yet.

Zaxares.5419:

No doubt we’ll need yet another 3000 Crests for one of the final 2 pieces, so I’ll be doing Silverwastes for a while yet.

You need 4,000 (boots x 3, + one ring).

Pixelpumpkin.4608:

You can tag the boss, then sit in a corner or die in a fire for all the game cares…

Totally out of context, but this is exactly the feeling I’ve been getting. I embraced GW2 for its fun feel and was hoping WvW was going to be my end-game content after playing EQ and WoW. It’s feels like a hamster wheel now. Whee, achievements. Whee, coins. Whee, monster bits. Ooo, new skins.

Krestfallen.8025:

but I swear… sometimes I feel like things were easier to accomplish way back in the days of Everquest

It only took me 118 pops to get the halfling illusion mask for my bard.

Okay, so GW2 hasn’t gotten THAT bad. Suddenly feeling better about things.

Traveller.7496:

Of course, someone will point out that you don’t have to grind for the luminescent armor … and I think I will indeed call it a day here. The regular armor will do.

That won’t be me… If you think bladders suck, just wait.

Traveller.7496:

Good luck trying to complete these events successfully with 10 other people when the story has moved on from Silverwastes.

There are full overflows, but they are a pain in the kitten to get in to. People aren’t ferrying often.

I don’t mind the grind too much… investigating the wardrobe is my current hobby, I have patience, and I’m not going to pursue this to the exclusion of everything else. But I haven’t RNGed any of the new parts as yet, despite trying, and since these things are only accumulating, I’m not looking forward to it. I already have to kill 3 of these bosses 6 more times and one 5 more times, minimum, to get the body parts I need. Next week, add 4 more sorties each, if they hold to pattern. That’s roughly 40 attempts, barring duplicates and forgetting to use the kitten extractor. That’s about like getting a suit of armor out of a dungeon.

I suggest not stressing out when trying to get them. Just farm the crests that you need and worry about getting all the parts after the next update. If the trend continues, you’ll have extractors for this update’s parts which you can use after you’ve gotten the parts for the new armor pieces?

Would you really want to spend 7+ hours getting the bladders only to get them again in two weeks as you go for the newer parts? I know that I wouldn’t. It’s also the reason why I’m not spending any crests until the next update as I’d hate to get an armor box drop after I had bought the pieces.