Guild Wars 2

Is it just me, or do the patch previeuws get smaller and smaller? All we have now is a new healing skill and a skillpoint for your home instance… yay?

This is probably the weakest preview ever. Shows absolutely nothing about the next patch apart from we all get a new healing skill.

you’re not the only one

Guys relax, it just went live. More information will be added over time, same with the previous patch previews.

The second patch of the month is usually the smaller one anyway. But it’s weird that we still don’t know what kind of content the Tower is.

I really hope there’s a twist and the Krait’s ally isn’t Scarlet. She just can’t bear the full burden of the story anymore. There needs to be another layer to this storyline. She’s just not the type of villain that stands on her own. She needs other factors to interact with.

At the very least, if it has to be Scarlet, please use this opportunity to show us WHY she can strong arm all these factions and help her be a more believable character.

I’m not one of the Scarlet haters. I say this as a fan of the character.

DragonWhimsy.6489:

The second patch of the month is usually the smaller one anyway. But it’s weird that we still don’t know what kind of content the Tower is.

You do realize this is not the second patch of the month right?

The new Twilight Arbor patch came out on the 1st of October
The Blood Prince Haloween patch came out on the 15th of October (that’s the small patch)
This Tower of Nightmares is a major patch, it will most likely last for a few weeks into November.

Hopefully it’s just a 1 week thing and we get a major November patch on the 5th of November.

Valefor.3246:

DragonWhimsy.6489:

The second patch of the month is usually the smaller one anyway. But it’s weird that we still don’t know what kind of content the Tower is.

You do realize this is not the second patch of the month right?

The new Twilight Arbor patch came out on the 1st of October
The Blood Prince Haloween patch came out on the 15th of October (that’s the small patch)
This Tower of Nightmares is a major patch, it will most likely last for a few weeks into November.

Hopefully it’s just a 1 week thing and we get a major November patch on the 5th of November.

Even so, it still seems really small.

Do we not get anything else for Halloween (like a better way to get corn/materials? for those ridiculous cost new items/recipe)? Is the tower the only thing we’re gonna be able to do for those two weeks (besides the existing Halloween stuff)? No QoL item(s)? Is there anything permanent being added (tower obviously won’t be…)?

I’m kinda happy that the patches are getting smaller.. I personally feel like they are becoming more manageable and have less room for bugs..

skullmount.1758:

Do we not get anything else for Halloween (like a better way to get corn/materials? for those ridiculous cost new items/recipe)? Is the tower the only thing we’re gonna be able to do for those two weeks (besides the existing Halloween stuff)? No QoL item(s)? Is there anything permanent being added (tower obviously won’t be…)?

Why is it “obviously” not permanent? We have seen nothing about what’s actually involved in this update so I don’t see how you can know that?

I really hope the ally is not Scarlett, I could kinda believe it for the Dredges/Flame legion (and even now I’m still not happy with it) but not the Kraits.

Please not scarlet!

Anyone else wondering what is up with the glowing green Krait? I’ve not seen krait like that in-game before.

Is this something to do with risen? or Scarlet manipulating them somehow? or are they just more powerful and infected with poison?

The bumped down halloween to work on this and give us a small taste of the bigger update ever sense kessex hills changed this update has ben the talk of the forums the last 6 days we still got halloween but this patch is obviously the main mac daddy of October. Its good that ther changing areas that people rarely pay attention to they will get more player putting out updates like this. This truly feels like a living world

Melfice.5091:

Is it just me, or do the patch previeuws get smaller and smaller? All we have now is a new healing skill and a skillpoint for your home instance… yay?

They will probably add more to it later like they have done with releases in the past.

Also seems like we get a new condition toxin

Maybe Anet’s keeping most of the content in secret, they did that with the patch preview for Queen’s Speach, it didn’t said anything about Scarlet’s Invasions then BOOM. Invasions lololoscarletdiediedie.

Plants again, but now with kraits. I’m thinking that the new ally of kraits is Faolain who escaped from Twilight Arbor…

The one talking in the tower of nightmares teaser sounds like a largos…

Look like Forgotten to me, just green.

Resistance is futile!

Wicked look, I like that.

Having a place of power for your personal instance sounds good to me as well.

Hermes.7014:

Plants again, but now with kraits. I’m thinking that the new ally of kraits is Faolain who escaped from Twilight Arbor…

I was thinking it was going to Faolain and her Mesmer Lackey who we “killed” in TA Storymode (i’m sorry but he’s a mesmer, and a major lore character he has so many tricks up his sleeve to not really be dead it’s ridiculous).

And to people who are gonna say “Oh well Krait wouldn’t make an alliance with Nightmare Court!!” well yeah, they wouldn’t, but mesmers tend to be pretty good at making people do what they want… And idk if you have noticed or not.. but Krait don’t really have any Mesmers on Tyria anymore…

It is funny how we get these posts every single time there is a preview.
Why can’t we just wait until the patch actually hits before shouting about it being too small?
There might be a reason to reveal little of the content.

The teaser trailer seemed so “scarletish” to me.. But at the same time, something about the nightmare court.. the green Krait look like some sort of nightmare court+Krait transformation, one of the Kraits is holding a sort of nightmare Warhorn/Focus? Looks like the new Aether Path weapons. And then all the vines and the dark purple-ish..
We’ll see, looks good either way..

Ok, people, please stop with the Scarlet and Faolain theories, I am willing to go on a limb and say that they are 100% wrong. It would go against pretty much all lore behind the Krait to have them team up with anyone, they are Xenophobic and really only care about their religion, which involves Krait Obelisks, which is obviously what is being built in Kessex. I’ll link the wiki page on the Krait so you can all read it yourselves, but what is more likely happening is they have built the obelisk to bring back, or “summon” if you will, one of the Krait prophets, which, as stated in the wiki page, will then bring with them massive armies to wipe out all life.

Also, according to the wiki, Obelisks mark the site of “ascension” of ancient Krait prophets. Knowing that the location of this Obelisk is right above where the Krait Bloodwitch event happened, I don’t think it’s outside the realm of reality to speculate that what’s really going on is maybe the Bloodwitch herself is trying to “ascend” somehow to bring back one of their ancient prophets.

Anyway, here’s the link for the wiki article http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Krait

Please please please read up on the Krait and lets stop this speculation about Scarlet and Faolain, because it would go against all existing lore for them to team up with anyone.

Next patch in a nutshell.
More Gem Store, more RNG, more temporary content, more achievements.
Could entirely skip next 1 month and then come and nothing would have changed. (The tower will probably disappear and leave only ruins).

Oh, also, just because something glows green, does not make it Nightmare Court, in fact, do they even glow green? I don’t recall that being a distinguishing feature of the Court…

webtoehobbit.4201:

Ok, people, please stop with the Scarlet and Faolain theories, I am willing to go on a limb and say that they are 100% wrong. It would go against pretty much all lore behind the Krait to have them team up with anyone, they are Xenophobic and really only care about their religion, which involves Krait Obelisks, which is obviously what is being built in Kessex. I’ll link the wiki page on the Krait so you can all read it yourselves, but what is more likely happening is they have built the obelisk to bring back, or “summon” if you will, one of the Krait prophets, which, as stated in the wiki page, will then bring with them massive armies to wipe out all life.

Also, according to the wiki, Obelisks mark the site of “ascension” of ancient Krait prophets. Knowing that the location of this Obelisk is right above where the Krait Bloodwitch event happened, I don’t think it’s outside the realm of reality to speculate that what’s really going on is maybe the Bloodwitch herself is trying to “ascend” somehow to bring back one of their ancient prophets.

Anyway, here’s the link for the wiki article http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Krait

Please please please read up on the Krait and lets stop this speculation about Scarlet and Faolain, because it would go against all existing lore for them to team up with anyone.

Something tells me that even if Scarlet isn’t involved, it is going to tie in with future living story and its all going to roll into one nice big package in some way, just like how all the other releases have.

webtoehobbit.4201:

Oh, also, just because something glows green, does not make it Nightmare Court, in fact, do they even glow green? I don’t recall that being a distinguishing feature of the Court…

We already know the Nightmare court is involved cause of the pre-veiws from Guildwars2Hub were they get to preview the stuff look at link ty http://www.guildwars2hub.com/features/editorials/tower-nightmares

The release page says absolutely nothing about the tower itself. What is it? Story instance? Mini-dungeon (PvE)? Dungeon path? Jumping puzzle? PvP-mini-game?

The release page is shrouding the tower in mystery, this is obviously deliberate.

It could be ANYTHING.

It could be the best thing ever, or totally lame. I, myself, am pretty excited. I kinda like the Krait. I mean I hate meeting them in PvE, but I like them from a lore point of view. And right now I’m just glad it’s not the Aetherblades… (better not be!)

Marquie Thomas.1873:

webtoehobbit.4201:

Oh, also, just because something glows green, does not make it Nightmare Court, in fact, do they even glow green? I don’t recall that being a distinguishing feature of the Court…

We already know the Nightmare court is involved cause of the pre-veiws from Guildwars2Hub were they get to preview the stuff look at link ty http://www.guildwars2hub.com/features/editorials/tower-nightmares

Well that’s disappointing….. The Krait should not be working with anyone, and since it STILL hasn’t been explained how Scarlet got the Molten Alliance together in the first place, the story for the Krait and Nightmare Court will probably be as complex as, “they’re working together” and never get any good explanation for their alliance….

Please prove me wrong ANet, don’t destroy YOUR OWN lore!

I really hope they add more information on this patch… there is great potential for this story. But right now its not looking to exciting.

I really hope they will give us some more info about the tower. Is it a dungeon (propably yes), is it going to be like something like Queens Pavilion (a small new area with some events), group content or solo content?

The thing I like is that we get more and more stuff for our home instance which is really really cool.

I hope the update will be bigger than it seems

Canach returns….

I really don’t think the krait are above making an alliance to gain so ground in their power struggle The point being is this a forced alliance thanks to the unkown benefactor i am still thinking mordremoth what do the nightmare court have to gain helping the krait.

Pifil.5193:

skullmount.1758:

Do we not get anything else for Halloween (like a better way to get corn/materials? for those ridiculous cost new items/recipe)? Is the tower the only thing we’re gonna be able to do for those two weeks (besides the existing Halloween stuff)? No QoL item(s)? Is there anything permanent being added (tower obviously won’t be…)?

Why is it “obviously” not permanent? We have seen nothing about what’s actually involved in this update so I don’t see how you can know that?

Because they’ve stated in the patch preview/release pages whether or not something is permanent. Since there’s a lack of the word permanent in the description of the tower, its obviously temporary.

skullmount.1758:

Pifil.5193:

skullmount.1758:

Do we not get anything else for Halloween (like a better way to get corn/materials? for those ridiculous cost new items/recipe)? Is the tower the only thing we’re gonna be able to do for those two weeks (besides the existing Halloween stuff)? No QoL item(s)? Is there anything permanent being added (tower obviously won’t be…)?

Why is it “obviously” not permanent? We have seen nothing about what’s actually involved in this update so I don’t see how you can know that?

Because they’ve stated in the patch preview/release pages whether or not something is permanent. Since there’s a lack of the word permanent in the description of the tower, its obviously temporary.

And yes the preview page is still lacking every tiny detail on it and will mostly be filled in after the live stream. Also if they worked this hard to stealth change a already existing area in a holiday patch i doubt its to troll and add it temporarily i don’t think we get a new condition and a universal heal skill to deal with that new condition as temporarily content.

panzer.6034:

Canach returns….

Or it could be Trahearne, driving the Kraid insane with his speeches. This won’t end well indeed :P

Marquie Thomas.1873:

skullmount.1758:

Pifil.5193:

skullmount.1758:

Do we not get anything else for Halloween (like a better way to get corn/materials? for those ridiculous cost new items/recipe)? Is the tower the only thing we’re gonna be able to do for those two weeks (besides the existing Halloween stuff)? No QoL item(s)? Is there anything permanent being added (tower obviously won’t be…)?

Why is it “obviously” not permanent? We have seen nothing about what’s actually involved in this update so I don’t see how you can know that?

Because they’ve stated in the patch preview/release pages whether or not something is permanent. Since there’s a lack of the word permanent in the description of the tower, its obviously temporary.

And yes the preview page is still lacking every tiny detail on it and will mostly be filled in after the live stream. Also if they worked this hard to stealth change a already existing area in a holiday patch i doubt its to troll and add it temporarily i don’t think we get a new condition and a universal heal skill to deal with that new condition as temporarily content.

Molten Weapons Facility?

skullmount.1758:

Marquie Thomas.1873:

skullmount.1758:

Pifil.5193:

skullmount.1758:

Do we not get anything else for Halloween (like a better way to get corn/materials? for those ridiculous cost new items/recipe)? Is the tower the only thing we’re gonna be able to do for those two weeks (besides the existing Halloween stuff)? No QoL item(s)? Is there anything permanent being added (tower obviously won’t be…)?

Why is it “obviously” not permanent? We have seen nothing about what’s actually involved in this update so I don’t see how you can know that?

Because they’ve stated in the patch preview/release pages whether or not something is permanent. Since there’s a lack of the word permanent in the description of the tower, its obviously temporary.

And yes the preview page is still lacking every tiny detail on it and will mostly be filled in after the live stream. Also if they worked this hard to stealth change a already existing area in a holiday patch i doubt its to troll and add it temporarily i don’t think we get a new condition and a universal heal skill to deal with that new condition as temporarily content.

Molten Weapons Facility?

You bring up a temporary dungeon to a stealth change that happened in already existing open world area that’s was unrelated to the holiday patch that brought it even if the tower itself is temporary they cant just change every thing that did to the area back to honky dory normal with out some kinda consequence from having the tower be there ether way its perma open world content one way or another.

webtoehobbit.4201:

Marquie Thomas.1873:

webtoehobbit.4201:

Oh, also, just because something glows green, does not make it Nightmare Court, in fact, do they even glow green? I don’t recall that being a distinguishing feature of the Court…

We already know the Nightmare court is involved cause of the pre-veiws from Guildwars2Hub were they get to preview the stuff look at link ty http://www.guildwars2hub.com/features/editorials/tower-nightmares

Well that’s disappointing….. The Krait should not be working with anyone, and since it STILL hasn’t been explained how Scarlet got the Molten Alliance together in the first place, the story for the Krait and Nightmare Court will probably be as complex as, “they’re working together” and never get any good explanation for their alliance….

Please prove me wrong ANet, don’t destroy YOUR OWN lore!

Nightmare court will make an alliance with anyone willing to allow them to help cause pain and torment, nightmare court have access to a large amount of mesmers, including their leader being a pretty fantastic one.

As mentioned earlier the blood witch may be wanting to ascend, if you think even for a kittening moment that if Faolin came up and said “hey we will help you ascend if you help us torture people!” To the blood witch she would say no? Xenophobic does not mean you’re above making alliances, it just means there’s gotta be a sweet kitten deal for you to do so.

Most LS events are two-parts, remember. We’ve had a number of single-release ones recently (Tequatl, TA, Halloween), but “1 month = 2 updates = 1 LS event” is the norm.

The first event usually sets up the situation and gives the players some stuff to work towards.

The second event releases the dungeon or instance or main stuff.

So, with that said, here’s what I’m guessing we will see.

The mesmer alliance breaks the wall, catching the Krait in their evil.

A bunch of new events in Kessex and one (maybe two) Living Story instances to complete. The tower will be mostly closed, or only part of it will be accessible.

Two weeks later, everything breaks loose! Krait finish whatever the thing they were doing / the final barrier is broken open / something else. Now the conclusion occurs and the new instance or dungeon or whatever the main “meat” part is revealed.

Two weeks later, the krait tower has been destroyed and their schemes have been stopped! (Alternatively, and this I hope, there still is permanent content left behind.)

I would most enjoy this to be the reveal of a new dungeon a new type of 5-man instanced PVE content. (Say, a multi-layered dungeon where each “path” is a different floor and you have to unlock the previous one to do the next. Yes this is similar to fractals, no this is not fractals.) If not instanced, it’d be nice if there was a semi complicated event that had to be done to open the door into the tower, which is then resealed soon after. This would make the open world groups have to attempt the tower’s event chain completion in waves instead of constantly reflowing in (also makes a full wipe a real wipe.) We already see stuff like this in the Opening Instances when you create your race, where people only get to enter the fight with Issormir etc in waves. (Not as noticeable now though, since there aren’t throngs of new characters being made like at launch.)

Walhalla.5473:

panzer.6034:

Canach returns….

Or it could be Trahearne, driving the Kraid insane with his speeches. This won’t end well indeed :P

Commander, to me. You need to decide on the course of action you wish to take so I can claim all the credit for your hard work.