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Posted by: Shanna.4762

Shanna.4762

Um…Livia doesn’t ever stay alive long enough for me to progress through this. Is there something I’m not understanding or is she just horrendously weak? She dies in like two hits, and I can’t stop all the static ball things from blowing her up instantly.

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Posted by: Rizal.3916

Rizal.3916

yis inb4 git gud someone answer this please

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Posted by: Shanna.4762

Shanna.4762

She’s weak as f***, the second I get her up and any of the static spawns she’s insta-dead and i’m pretty much over it at this point.

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Posted by: Herr der Friedhoefe.2490

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I don’t very often alt-F4, but I did.

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Posted by: Randulf.7614

Randulf.7614

I got through it, but not without a great deal of luck. My warrior switched to a rez banner to try and get her up, but she kept going down really quickly as the adds overwhelm her and can’t be aggroed away. The strategy appears to be all about maximum dps on the sparks and if you didn’t bring a high dps build then it’s going to be a struggle.

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Posted by: Shanna.4762

Shanna.4762

I grouped to try and finish it….It bugged out at the end of the fight and wouldn’t complete for anyone….

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Posted by: Magnus Godrik.5841

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Wow I thought the fight was easy, boring and very disappointing. Livia didn’t die at all for me. Anet please do better.

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Posted by: dceptous.9205

dceptous.9205

Same issue here, I’m running full asc gear and yet spent the past 30 minutes keeping her alive and defending her on my Ranger. Bristleback couldn’t agro the sparks and neither longbow nor greatsword could AoE them down fast enough.

In the end half my armor was broken and I bailed out.

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Posted by: Magi.8643

Magi.8643

Did manage to finish it on a ele but i found out afterwards that the achievement for finishing the fight within the time limit doesn’t end until the reward screen so lost it due to 2mins of fluff banter and the cinematic…

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Posted by: foggy.2856

foggy.2856

Livia makes a nice doormat. Not sure what she is trying to cast, I will probably never know. If there is a trick to it other than “L2P” it would be great to know.

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Posted by: foggy.2856

foggy.2856

I finally got it done after spending several minutes on the forums and “restarting from checkpoint”. After the checkpoint, for no particular reason, fewer sparks spawned behind her and Livia was able to cast her stupid spell. This was after 30 mins of killing sparks and watching Livia die over and over. I was so annoyed I grabbed a beer for the cut scene. GG, not.

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Posted by: Lasica.5068

Lasica.5068

I had to give up, my fingers were going numb after an hour of continually spawning sparks and resurrecting someone who died after a few seconds.

Whatever cutscene might be after the fight I’m not going to see it until they fix the fight…

Why make sense, when it’s so much more fun to make nonsense?

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Posted by: Zappix.7928

Zappix.7928

The voice of Livia sounds like Nan Flanagan from True Blood. She dies very easily I had to heal spam her with my ranger and then res her, you keep doing it until the aspects start attacking. Livia’s toughness needs increasing as does her health bar. 100,000 billion zillion quadrillion health should do the trick!

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Posted by: Kea.6380

Kea.6380

My Livia died a few times then the spark starts to spawn slower. At that point I was able to kill the spark fast enough and finished the fight. Might be a bug.

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Posted by: Konig Des Todes.2086

Konig Des Todes.2086

She died only once on me. Just keep the aggro of the sparks and you’d be fine. The initial wave of sparks is the worst.

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Posted by: Sartharina.3542

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She died only once on me. Just keep the aggro of the sparks and you’d be fine. The initial wave of sparks is the worst.

“Just keep the aggro of the sparks” – except there are no mechanics to do such. Even my Berzerker’s taunt didn’t get them to attack her more than the “Taunt” time before they went back to smacking Livia. I tried everything I could to get their attention – Bladetrail to try rounding them up on me before they made it to Livia, lots of melee cleaving the sparks with all my skills, Wild Blow and Stomp to force them off Livia – she still went down like a wet noodle.

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Posted by: naturesoul.3578

naturesoul.3578

i didn’t really have any issues in the last part, felt it was sort of easy on my necro, but then my necro is build as a raid tank and is built to do alot of aoe life stealing, he even has transfusion whickh healed her alot.

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Posted by: OriOri.8724

OriOri.8724

She went down once for me in the initial wave of sparks, and then I was able to keep her alive by changing how I approached the sparks. I agree that this section of the fight feels stacked towards DPS heavy classes though. Only change that it should have, imo is one of the below

  • Have the sparks stop spawning when she is downed and you are reviving her. You’d need to clear the current ones but wouldn’t have to worry about new ones.
  • Not have her spell cast reset to 0 when she goes down

Method 1 makes it easier to rez her, method 2 makes it so that her going down doesn’t mean you have to start all over on that 1 aspect.

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Posted by: EdwinLi.1284

EdwinLi.1284

ya not easy to solo past this part because of how weak the NPC is.

To survive this you will need to slap on a lot of protective buffs and HP regen on her.

I made it past this fight as a Engineer after 3 attempts because of my Healing Turret and Healing AoE field keeping her HP up and throwing potions to provide her with defensive buffs.

Killing the Adds fast will also be required because it is very difficult to make the enemy mobs not focus on the NPC.

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Posted by: Drarnor Kunoram.5180

Drarnor Kunoram.5180

ya not easy to solo past this part because of how weak the NPC is.

To survive this you will need to slap on a lot of protective buffs and HP regen on her.

I made it past this fight as a Engineer after 3 attempts because of my Healing Turret and Healing AoE field keeping her HP up and throwing potions to provide her with defensive buffs.

Killing the Adds fast will also be required because it is very difficult to make the enemy mobs not focus on the NPC.

Weakness spam also works.

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Posted by: Rencruzer.9614

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Yea I gave up after 45mins on my Ranger. By the time I rezzed her the new wave was right there to kill her again. Didnt really have any problems on my Eng but she never died with that one.

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Posted by: Tristavel.9218

Tristavel.9218

Reading this I wonder if it’s a bug. Had smooth sailing on a power reaper with zero support skills, just kept killing sparks and ressed her one time she went down (sparks didn’t spawn THAT fast, at least for me). Seems odd others have to go this far to keep her running.

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Posted by: galen ubal.2807

galen ubal.2807

Yea I gave up after 45mins on my Ranger. By the time I rezzed her the new wave was right there to kill her again. Didnt really have any problems on my Eng but she never died with that one.

Didn’t help that I had to keep an eye on who my pet was targetting – I had a heck of a time keeping It off the aspect and on the sparks.

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Posted by: Traveller.7496

Traveller.7496

Livia gives you a lot of kitten for someone who will instantly die in a serious battle.

I was able to keep her alive during the sparks phase but she was constantly taking dirt naps in the final phase, but I don’t think you need her alive there, just let her sleep (and take credit afterwards)

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Posted by: Tiny Doom.4380

Tiny Doom.4380

I did it as a full heal druid. I chain healed her and she still died a lot but I just rezzed her and kept going. It was taking so long I tabbed out to read the forums for hints, leaving the druid standing there on auto-attack with Staff 1. Came back none the wiser and the druid was still standing so dying isn’t a problem.

I kept rezzing her and rezzing her and after a while the number of sparks decreased and she finally did whatever she was doing and the Aspect became attackable. Took no skill or thought at all – just a lot of patience. Remember the part where Livia asks your character if they brought a book? Well, she wasn’t kidding.

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Posted by: Yargesh.4965

Yargesh.4965

I found the same problem here. I could not aggro the sparks, I could not kill them fast enough to stop her dying within a minute of being rezed.
The stop waves when she is needs to be rezed or the keep progress with her spell would work for me I think, or just give her enough toughness/vit/health to actually live longer than a minute.

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Posted by: rdfaye.4368

rdfaye.4368

I wonder if there is a bug. I spent 40 minutes on my condi druid last night, and could not keep her alive. My kid wandered in to watch and told me I was doing it wrong because I was supposed to keep her alive. No kidding. He apparently sailed through it on his necro. I will go back in with healing gear tonight. But the sparks never decreased or stopped, just wave after wave kept coming.

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Posted by: Traveller.7496

Traveller.7496

I wonder if there is a bug. I spent 40 minutes on my condi druid last night, and could not keep her alive. My kid wandered in to watch and told me I was doing it wrong because I was supposed to keep her alive. No kidding. He apparently sailed through it on his necro. I will go back in with healing gear tonight. But the sparks never decreased or stopped, just wave after wave kept coming.

I hate to be this guy, but I did on my condi ranger and did not have trouble keeping Livia alive – at this part. (on the final phase she just died and I said forget her.) I actually thought the arrow she was channeling had some kind of barrier so I basically stood on top of her and just attacked the sparks when they spawned.

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Posted by: Endless Soul.5178

Endless Soul.5178

Reading this I wonder if it’s a bug. Had smooth sailing on a power reaper with zero support skills, just kept killing sparks and ressed her one time she went down (sparks didn’t spawn THAT fast, at least for me). Seems odd others have to go this far to keep her running.

I had largely the same results with my power necro. Livia did die once, but I was able to get her up and running again and beat the battle with her still alive.

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Posted by: rdfaye.4368

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I hate to be this guy, but I did on my condi ranger and did not have trouble keeping Livia alive – at this part. (on the final phase she just died and I said forget her.) I actually thought the arrow she was channeling had some kind of barrier so I basically stood on top of her and just attacked the sparks when they spawned.

Ummmm, yeah, that’s pretty much what I was doing. Except she died, constantly. I had no real problems with the previous fights in this episode, once I figured out the mechanics. Between her constantly dying and my pets insisting on going kamikaze against the aspect, this was far more frustrating than the Caudecus fight. So there may very well be a bug that some players manage to trigger.

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Posted by: dceptous.9205

dceptous.9205

OK update from my point of view. I tried it again today, switching to druid spec but keeping the zerker gear. This time I had little trouble with the whole thing.

The battle stalled for a while after killing the first two aspects, but after that the guard phase ran quite smoohtly (had to rez Livia once because I’d died myself in the process.

Soo, I suppose it could really be a bug of sorts.

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Posted by: KWman.3012

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For the first time we must revive our co-op NPC.
Worried looks good on us.

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Posted by: Lethalvriend.1723

Lethalvriend.1723

What worked for me is high dmg and stuns. As a warrior mace offhand stun can take down a whole group while you mow them down. She did seem very frail though and because of that I didn’t make the timer on the first try, I’ll give that achievement another shot later.

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Posted by: ParanoidKami.2867

ParanoidKami.2867

I think this is just a problem for lower dps builds. I had a staff Thief with full ascended Marauders and food do this and I didn’t even know Livia could die. I just mindlessly killed things with barely any effort.

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Posted by: jheryn.8390

jheryn.8390

Let’s see how strong you are when you are nearly 300 years old.

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Posted by: Chrono.6928

Chrono.6928

So just beat him on my thief… wasn’t fun but at least i could Shadow Refuge Livia to res her dead self easily.

Dialogue starts " you did not stay me then you won’t stay me now." Goes to get sword, to finish him, game DC’s…

Good call Laz…lol

ps: sadly i did not get credit for beating it since the instance wasn’t over, so yay i get to do it all again now… sigh

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Posted by: Konig Des Todes.2086

Konig Des Todes.2086

She died only once on me. Just keep the aggro of the sparks and you’d be fine. The initial wave of sparks is the worst.

“Just keep the aggro of the sparks” – except there are no mechanics to do such. Even my Berzerker’s taunt didn’t get them to attack her more than the “Taunt” time before they went back to smacking Livia. I tried everything I could to get their attention – Bladetrail to try rounding them up on me before they made it to Livia, lots of melee cleaving the sparks with all my skills, Wild Blow and Stomp to force them off Livia – she still went down like a wet noodle.

I never had a problem. I was on my necro, just one attack on them and they focused on me. They do have their wide AoE attack but it’s a non-targeting one so it can’t do much harm against Livia (or you).

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Posted by: Randulf.7614

Randulf.7614

She died only once on me. Just keep the aggro of the sparks and you’d be fine. The initial wave of sparks is the worst.

“Just keep the aggro of the sparks” – except there are no mechanics to do such. Even my Berzerker’s taunt didn’t get them to attack her more than the “Taunt” time before they went back to smacking Livia. I tried everything I could to get their attention – Bladetrail to try rounding them up on me before they made it to Livia, lots of melee cleaving the sparks with all my skills, Wild Blow and Stomp to force them off Livia – she still went down like a wet noodle.

I never had a problem. I was on my necro, just one attack on them and they focused on me. They do have their wide AoE attack but it’s a non-targeting one so it can’t do much harm against Livia (or you).

It sounds like perhaps there is a bug or certainly some inconsistency in the instance somewhere as this is precisely the opposite of what I saw in there. The sparks did huge damage to her and refused to budge on aggro no matter what. I rezzed her with a banner and within 5 seconds the sparks obliterated her again. This went on for about 30mins until I got a cycle of rez + spark repsawn + fast dps which worked. But at no point could I get the sparks off her and I tried standing at various points in attempt to mitigate splash damage, but to no avail.

Reading through the various reports I am seeing a trend which seems to support that both what you experienced and what I experienced are happening for different people, so it would suggest a bug/glitch/issue somewhere.

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Posted by: Katastroff.1045

Katastroff.1045

After a few times having to rez her, i decided to camp on her spot. Since the sparks are going for her no matter what, that did the job for me.

Why is a necro wearing heavy armor ?

Why simplify things when its so easy to complicate them ?

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Posted by: Lord Trejgon.2809

Lord Trejgon.2809

my druidess in exotic armor with ascended staff and shortbow, and a wild mix of exotic and ascended trinkets had no issues on this stage

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Posted by: Inculpatus cedo.9234

Inculpatus cedo.9234

Bah. I tried it for about half an hour/forty-five minutes (she never broke the Lazarus/anomaly’s shield, and died over and over, no matter how many sparks I killed), then stood in a safe place to look it up, could not find anything, went back, and found my character in the character select screen. Sigh. Now I have to do everything over.

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Posted by: perilisk.1874

perilisk.1874

Lost her once when I was dodging lightning, but otherwise I didn’t have trouble keeping her alive on a zerk guard. It did feel like it took forever for whatever she was doing to work; some bar or other indicator might be helpful just to make sure it isn’t broken.

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Posted by: Rencruzer.9614

Rencruzer.9614

I’ve done it on 3 toons so far (eng/rev/necro) and failed on my ranger. Seems if you just bring heavy AoE you should be able to do it. Kind of annoying.

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Posted by: rdfaye.4368

rdfaye.4368

Okay, so I finally made it through this fight. Higher healing build was no better, so I tweaked my condi druid to try and max DPS. I also made sure pet’s F2 was traitef to taunt.

This worked, with 2 notes. On this run, on the first aspect, I finally got some breaks between waves to rez her easily. The pet’s F2 taunt didn’t work at all. On the second aspect, the F2 taunt worked as designed, which let my pet hold most of the sparks on him, and I could AOE them. Since the pet is our core mechanic, it would be helpful if it actually worked as designed in all fights.

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Posted by: rdfaye.4368

rdfaye.4368

Forgot to add thank you to Anet for adding save spots to the instance. I went right back in at the setup for the last xfight, and did not have to replay the first part of the instance. Thank you!

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Posted by: cafard.8953

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Staff Druid was handy for that bit.

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Posted by: Faaris.8013

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Low dps combined with low HP and stability might be the cause of this? Of all the things that people could have problems with in this episode, this I wasn’t expecting. Maybe I need to try this with another class, but with thief it was quick and dirty. I died 2 times because I just ignored the AoE spam, but was done in under 9 minutes (didn’t take the time but got the achievement). The sparks have almost no health and die quickly.

Either you kill them quickly or cc them, every class should have the means to do it.

Before trying the same tactics for 40 minutes, maybe take 3 minutes to analyze the situation and then start over with other skills/traits. I understand why people just run back into battle without changes, but that’s not how it works with recent content in GW2.

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Posted by: Lord Trejgon.2809

Lord Trejgon.2809

also the only moment when my duridess actually died in that instance was in final fight stage in one of those moments when lazarus casts those waves and waves of those dark orbs – and I died once before I realised that instead of tryign to get on his back to CC him harder with shortbow I should have just open the distance to have easy tiem avoiding this thing….

I’m really really surprised that anyone had any issues with this

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Posted by: RabbitUp.8294

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I wonder if it’s bugged for some people. She only died once for me, and I didn’t do anything special. I was on a standard zerk DH, and standed on top of her, AoEing the sparks as they approached. I guess I killed them quickly enough, or maybe they aggroed on me because I was standing right beside her?

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Posted by: Inculpatus cedo.9234

Inculpatus cedo.9234

Thank goodness the Devs fixed it.

And a bunch of other ‘buggy’ things in this Episode.

Yay…and thank you, Devs.