Are there viable builds with Shaman Stats?

Are there viable builds with Shaman Stats?

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Posted by: Lipstick.3469

Lipstick.3469

I have over my years in this game attained 3 zintl weapon chests (Shaman Stats). I have all classes at level 80 except Thief and I was just cleaning out my bank and noticed these chests just lying in there wasting space.

So my question to my fellow players is; Is there any viable build for any viable class that involves Shaman Stats? So I can use these chests and gear up another of my characters.

Shaman stats:
Primary: Vitality
Secondary: Healing Power
Secondary: Condition Damage

Regards /Lipstick

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Posted by: DreamyAbaddon.3265

DreamyAbaddon.3265

I don’t recommend you copying and pasting other people’s builds.

Do you think you need those stats? Are you lacking Vitality and Healing/Conditions?
Do you think it would help any of your current builds and playstyles?

If the answer is “Yes”, then it’s useful.
If the answer is “No”, then it’s useless.

Test it out and see for yourself. See what builds you come up with.
Then you judge how it plays for how you play.

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Posted by: Lipstick.3469

Lipstick.3469

Yeah, I would gladly do that if there was a sandbox server where I could test it. I.E get full ascended gear and go pve/pvp without having to spend thousands of gold on it. I wouldn’t have copy pasted someone elses build either. I would’ve just seen there are possibilities, possibly copy paste the build and then change it as I went a long and felt what would be better and what wouldn’t.. I suppose?

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Posted by: DreamyAbaddon.3265

DreamyAbaddon.3265

Yeah, I would gladly do that if there was a sandbox server where I could test it. I.E get full ascended gear and go pve/pvp without having to spend thousands of gold on it. I wouldn’t have copy pasted someone elses build either. I would’ve just seen there are possibilities, possibly copy paste the build and then change it as I went a long and felt what would be better and what wouldn’t.. I suppose?

There are other ways to do things.
Also you need to know gear isn’t even as important than Skills and traits.

Anyways, My Skype info is: DreamyAbaddon

Feel Free to add me if you want some help. =)

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Posted by: Hayashi.3416

Hayashi.3416

Actually you can test gear in PvP for free.

Alternatively, if testing against PvE monsters, you can try using Masterworks as a trial.

Offhand a support ranger might be able to use that stat combination, but I haven’t attempted to theorycraft anything yet which actually uses Shaman’s.

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Posted by: Molch.2078

Molch.2078

Since you’re using the forum to ask a question, I think you might want to hear some opinions. Therefore I’ll cut out all the “play how you want, it’s important you’re having fun bla bla” and give you my opinion on shamans gear, okay? Okay.

Remove it from the game.

Here you go. Vitality is a bad stat. Healingpower is not that great, too. No toughness to protect this big hp pool. And conditiondamage is useless in PvE. Probably the worst gear you can get.

I hope you don’t mind the harsh tone too much, but I just can’t stand answers like the one from DreamyAbaddon.

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Posted by: Frotee.2634

Frotee.2634

While I personally wouldn’t use it since I don’t really play supporty, you could try to use this nice editor http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/ (or any other) to play around with builds that could make use of this stat combo.

Condition damage is far from useless in solo PvE, btw. It does have serious problems in group encounters due to the stack limit, yes. But some people still just enjoy using DoT, me included :P

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Posted by: DreamyAbaddon.3265

DreamyAbaddon.3265

Since you’re using the forum to ask a question, I think you might want to hear some opinions. Therefore I’ll cut out all the “play how you want, it’s important you’re having fun bla bla” and give you my opinion on shamans gear, okay? Okay.

Remove it from the game.

Here you go. Vitality is a bad stat. Healingpower is not that great, too. No toughness to protect this big hp pool. And conditiondamage is useless in PvE. Probably the worst gear you can get.

I hope you don’t mind the harsh tone too much, but I just can’t stand answers like the one from DreamyAbaddon.

Actually, Your opinion to me has little to no value.
All stats are in fact, important.

To say Condition Damage is useless in PvE is naïve. I use it in PvE and dungeons and it helps tons if that’s where you damage output is coming from.

To say Vitality is useless is also insane. Considering Vitality gives you more health to begin with, while toughness gives you the chance to take less damage.

Also, it’s NOT useless, if it was, it wouldn’t be in the game.

Get your facts straight… These Stats are very great for any build that needs it, however, if the build and playstyle does not need it, Then it becomes useless.

That is why Playstyle Comes first, Build comes next, and Armor/Stats is last.
You wont know what stats you need till you know how your playstyle plays in the first place.

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Posted by: DreamyAbaddon.3265

DreamyAbaddon.3265

@ the OP

I made this guide for a reason, take your time to read it and watch the videos.
There is a ((How-to-Build-Class)) video on it:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/players/GW2-Combat-system-101-Guide/first

This is the best help I can give you.
Good luck!

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Posted by: Falunel.7645

Falunel.7645

Since you’re using the forum to ask a question, I think you might want to hear some opinions. Therefore I’ll cut out all the “play how you want, it’s important you’re having fun bla bla” and give you my opinion on shamans gear, okay? Okay.

Remove it from the game.

Here you go. Vitality is a bad stat. Healingpower is not that great, too. No toughness to protect this big hp pool. And conditiondamage is useless in PvE. Probably the worst gear you can get.

I hope you don’t mind the harsh tone too much, but I just can’t stand answers like the one from DreamyAbaddon.

Narrowminded much? Maybe it’s not optimal in PvE, but Shaman’s is a nice set in PvP. I personally know a player who has used it to make a regeneration warrior who mixes direct damage from swords and condition damage from bleeds, and he’s used its close twin, Settler’s gear (toughness instead of vitality) to make a mightstacking/Diamond Skin ele that fights with conjures. He’s killed lots of people as both characters, including a rank 50 who said “I’ve never seen an ele fight like that.” In the hands of a clever, creative, and openminded person, “useless” stats are quite useful.

Also, it’s none of your business what someone runs in PvE, especially if you’re not running with them. If you want to run zerk only, go right ahead. Make your own groups. No one’s complaining. If someone decides to run another set and has their own group for it, why do you care? To each their own.

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