Guild Wars 2

It says on the description set. but i only got 1 piece of the armor…

Hugh Norfolk.2798:

Hey everyone,

This is a wording bug not a content issue. The design behind the dungeon tracks was that players would need to run the track multiple times to get the entire set of weapons and armor.

19 – weapons
18 – pieces of armor (6 light, 6 medium, and 6 heavy)

Upon completing a track you will get 3 weapons and 1 piece of armor all your choice including stat combo. Upon running the track multiple times you are able to either save tokens for legendary or use tokens to speed the process up of getting the full weapons/armor set you are working towards.

The fact the text says “set” is a mistake that we are going to update soon. Any other questions just let me know.

So we get 3 weapons on that track that cost way more tokens than armor pieces. But the end big reward is only one piece of armor? That has to be a bug.

JTan.1687:

It says on the description set. but i only got 1 piece of the armor…

Each dungeon track lasts 2 weeks then rotates to another. They’re all repeatable so after a while you will end up with an entire set if you keep at it. You don’t wanna get a whole set within one completion do you? It would render the new PvP reward track content obsolete just 2 weeks after feature pack launch.

Um it states set i’m just asking. is it a typo?

~66 games for one armor peice. Yea, no thanks.

While I’m all for PvPers having an alternative to getting skins, mats, and loot, this slowball garbage gives little incentive for any other player to work towards them if they’re willing to participate in the rest of the game.

Farming WvW or PvE is far more time efficient for ascended mats, weapon/armor skins, champ bags, and loot. Sure you can’t please everyone, but glory design was better.

So basically if you want to get a full set of armor you end up with 18 weapons? That is way out of wack especially since weapons cost more dungeon tokens in pve. This has to be a bug.

yeah if it’s a bug i hope i can still get my armor set. coz i just used 1 birthday thing and 60 tome of knowledge hoping il get an armor set.

3 weapons and 1 armor piece per track make absolutly no sense.

The kryta track isn’t any better. At the end, you get one ceremonial SKIN. It’S not even an exo, it’s just a kittenin skin, which isn’t “rare” at all.

66 games for 1 piece of armor?

I think it’s a bug, it’s really a nosense otherwise.

Some of you sound so entitled it’s not even funny.

When you factor in ALL the stuff you get, it’s actually greater than you guys make it out to be.

Dirame.8521:

Some of you sound so entitled it’s not even funny.

When you factor in ALL the stuff you get, it’s actually greater than you guys make it out to be.

The main thing that denotes this as a bug is the relative amounts of weapons/armor you get. Normally, weapons cost significantly more than armor pieces, but with the rewards tracks you end up getting 3x as many weapons than armor pieces.

Considering the tokens you can get in the line, you should only end up needing to do the row 3 times- Buy chest/legs/shoulders with the boxes, buy gloves/boots/helm with the tokens.

If this is intended, then it’s still really questionable. You can get greatswords which cost 390 with the boxes, but armor pieces can only cost 330.

Hopefully something happens. Not sure how it’ll go, but I’m hoping that people will get reimbursed their chests.

Dirame.8521:

Some of you sound so entitled it’s not even funny.

When you factor in ALL the stuff you get, it’s actually greater than you guys make it out to be.

I don’t know how much it’s entitlement rather than being mislead. The track text says ‘set’, and a set means just that, not a single piece.

Generally I don’t complain about what ANet does as it’s something I can live with, but misleading reward text and not telling us information like hotjoin games only count towards 25% of track completion is not really acceptable. It’s things like this that ANet needs to tell us up front or in a clear fashion to avoid the uproar.

I think its a bug makes no sense to get only 1 armor piece and 3 weapons

Wouldn’t surprise me if that was intentional. They want you to spend like 60 hours doing spvp to get an entire dungeon armor set. I don’t know whether to laugh or cry. Really how hard is to get some kind of quick and dirty estimate of how long it would take to get the armor set through the dungeon and then make spvp take about that long. If this is meant to be like this I may quit. I am tired of the disrespect toward spvp.

What did you expect? A complete Arah-set plus 3 Weapons for playing two days sPVP?
I even find the 3 Arah-weapons are to easy to get tru pvp in comparion to playing the Arah-dungeon.

EverythingEnds.4261:

3 weapons and 1 armor piece per track make absolutly no sense.

The kryta track isn’t any better. At the end, you get one ceremonial SKIN. It’S not even an exo, it’s just a kittenin skin, which isn’t “rare” at all.

how much mystic clovers?

Pixelninja.6971:

What did you expect? A complete Arah-set plus 3 Weapons for playing two days sPVP?
I even find the 3 Arah-weapons are to easy to get tru pvp in comparion to playing the Arah-dungeon.

This depends on the dungeon, though, I think; Arah is one of the tougher armor sets to get. By comparison, CoF gear is trivially easy to get, and it would probably be easier to just run CoF1+2 than rely on the track for the gear.

Something I’ve wondered: Will we see tracks which are longer/shorter than the ones currently implemented? If the dungeon tracks were possibly 60 rewards long, with weapons at 15/30/45 and the (full set of) armor chest at the end, that might be better.

give it a chance they said…

so end of match win we used to get a box with (I never paid attention) what like 6 or 7 items (usually dupes but hey) not just from dungeons but all over, and glory.

now, we have to play for ages, do dungeons all over and in the end buy stuff to apply to existing armor/weapons we win as our supposed rewards in pvp.

lots more bloodstone/fragments/dragonite which carries no inherent gold value so theres that.

give it a try they said. we think you’ll like it they said.

think maybe they were referring to someone else other than ppl who actually played pvp. :S

Actually if you could get more than 1 armor piece per track it would be somewhat unfair for the PvEers, since they have to run it multiple times to get it one pice. Each armor piece is about 180-350 tokens, you get 60 tokens per route once a day.

Actually, the pvp track benefits PvPers more so than PvEers since they have to put in ore way to get their armor piece.

But seriously folks, yuo did not think you could get the full set just from 40 games did ya? Hugh even said or implied you get 1 armor piece during the RU 8.

the amount of wins to get one PIECE of dungeon armor is almost as many as it took to get entire SET under the glory system.

but glory system it was just skins – these are legitimate exotic gears that have stats and can be used in PvE/WvW as well.

Rage.9723:

I would also really like to know how many mystic clovers you received for completing the Arah path!

The rewards are really lackluster and if even the mystic clovers are low then PVP sucks for rewards. Remember we are losing out on glory now due to the new rewards.

You get no Legendary or Ascended materials except for Dust from the Arah path.

Solstice.1097:

the amount of wins to get one PIECE of dungeon armor is almost as many as it took to get entire SET under the glory system.

but glory system it was just skins – these are legitimate exotic gears that have stats and can be used in PvE/WvW as well.

True if you only consider orr armor, but the other armors took longer because you had to be in a high rank to get them them.

With that said, I think exotics are kinda not something to be excited about.

It’s either a bug or bad wording. :/
Should I wait to open it or just deal with the faulty wording?

AtlasSi.9130:

It’s either a bug or bad wording. :/
Should I wait to open it or just deal with the faulty wording?

There’s no good reason for them not to reimburse you if you open it now, I don’t think. It tracks how many times you’ve done the track at the moment- If they make a change, they’ll just give you that many chests.

Up to you whether you risk it, though.

I just watched the corresponding Ready Up (Episode 9,~ Minute 25:00 / 26:00).
And now I have bad news, but I’m also rly confused.

When Hugh explains it, he sais, that you will get ONE armor piece.
What seems rly awkward, however, is that when description of the box in the ready up episode says “dungeon armor choice boxes contain a unique dungeon armor and stat combo”.

I also have some issues with the “balance” of the reward tracks.
On the Dungeon tracks, I believe every 2nd tier box contains an exotic weapon.
The Equivalent rewards of the Balthazar track on those tiers are 5 crafting shards.
I’m not that into crafting / pve, but since when are 5 crafting shards equivalent to an exotic weapon?

Also this whole ascendend materials starts kittening me off a little. I don’t care about crafting or ascendend items. But the reward tracks give me this stuff I can’t even sell. So how are pvp players supposed to get gold out of those?

@OneManArmy: I got 2 clovers out of it. :/

silvermember.8941:

Actually if you could get more than 1 armor piece per track it would be somewhat unfair for the PvEers, since they have to run it multiple times to get it one pice. Each armor piece is about 180-350 tokens, you get 60 tokens per route once a day.

Actually, the pvp track benefits PvPers more so than PvEers since they have to put in ore way to get their armor piece.

But seriously folks, yuo did not think you could get the full set just from 40 games did ya? Hugh even said or implied you get 1 armor piece during the RU 8.

I really don’t understand where people like you are coming from. I did some quick and dirty math on how I was progressing after winning 4 of 6 tournament matches and it seemed to me it would take me about 18-20 hours to get one box based on the time I spent playing and how much progress I had made. Why should it take so much longer then just running the dungeon or are you telling me it takes 100 hours of running Arah to get the full armor set. Its annoying when people misrepresent the effort. Im not asking to get it over-night just not 100 hours lol. What exactly is wrong with parallel progression that is fairly equal in terms of hours spent. 40 ranked Tournament match wins is many hours of game play and you act like its nothing. Get serious if you want to discuss this. I just laid out a very realistic time frame of 100 plus hours doing ranked matches and winning at a decent rate to get six boxes and you are going to tell me that’s fine? A dev should comment on there thought process on this being so time intensive but they won’t have the guts to do it most likely because as it is currently it is a complete sham.

If it’s working as intended…

It should be changed to 3 armor pieces per path, with 1 weapon at the end. Complete the track 2 times over and you have a full set of PvE armor (except if you dual wield).

imo, it seems the “final reward” isn’t really a “final reward”. not to say it’s unrewarding. the entire track itself is really nice (I got 2 arah weapons and 100 tokens in a day, which is a lot for someone who doesn’t run dungeons!) but the final reward itself doesn’t feel very special. Maybe that’s what they’re going for, I dunno. I’m not too upset though..

maybe i’m just an optimist but if you look at it as a whole, you get 3 arah weapons, 2-3 armor pieces (if you buy one with the token boxes you get), a bunch of champ bags, and a bunch of transmutation charges, along with about 10 tomes of knowledge. that’s pretty nice for something that takes me about 4 days (2 if I focus on it)

The box contains the full set of course, you just only get to pick one to take out. It’s the same way that the weapon boxes contain a full set of weapons but you only choose one. Wording could be tweaked to clarify.

Still seems like a lot of effort for one piece though.

Well, you’re all lucky. I’m stucked at 30% progression and can’t get any reward anymore. I tried to take a new track and still the same problem. I just sent a ticket to Anet, hopefuly, they will be able to help me.

Nausicca.6038:

Well, you’re all lucky. I’m stucked at 30% progression and can’t get any reward anymore. I tried to take a new track and still the same problem. I just sent a ticket to Anet, hopefuly, they will be able to help me.

I’ve heard if you use hotjoin it will lock your progress out around 25%. try doing solo/team queue

ITheNormalPerson.9275:

Nausicca.6038:

Well, you’re all lucky. I’m stucked at 30% progression and can’t get any reward anymore. I tried to take a new track and still the same problem. I just sent a ticket to Anet, hopefuly, they will be able to help me.

I’ve heard if you use hotjoin it will lock your progress out around 25%. try doing solo/team queue

Yes my bad. I just tried soloQ and got my rewards. I feel better now

If we are not supposed to get an entire set of armor, why would they change the description from “armor” to “set” between the build in ready up episode 9 and the current build. I’m thinking this is a bug. It doesn’t make sense to reward the player with 3 arah weapons and 1 piece of armor. I really wish anet would comment on this so at least people know if this is a bug or not.

Do you get 1 piece of armor for 1 armor class (heavy, middle, light) or does it unlock 1 armor for all three?

In any case they really should up number of armor pieces you get per path.

What makes this worse is that they have a limit of how many times you can do hot join a day to progress, you have to do most of it in the arena. Which means you could be waiting up to 20 minutes or much longer for a match to even get put together in solo arena.

All the time spent waiting for 1 piece of armor… when I/many others feel it should be a full SET as they say in the description.

They should make every 2nd tier box a armor skin box instead of a pointless random green trash items. Would solve everything.

Maybe, the only reason why you get 3 weapons is, because you can throw them into the mystical forge.
You usally only need the armor set once. Or the 3 times for all armor types.
But if you basicly “always” profit from the weapons, as you can throw them into the forge and pray for a precurser.
However, at least they should give us a choice if we want weapons or an armor piece.

EverythingEnds.4261:

@OneManArmy: I got 2 clovers out of it. :/

rly? devs must be laughing at us.

But hey! It s the only place they are garanteed ;D

Well, this is a big letdown.
I can’t understand how they calculated the rewards, but getting 3 weapons and just one piece of armor doesn’t make ANY sense.
Lets say that you wont to get the the whole set now:

a)It doesn’t make sense to get weapons through PvE. In PvP you may get them way faster.

b)It doesn’t make sense to hunt for the armor in PvP. Running dungeons will get you the full set much faster.

Where is the logic behind it? I don’t know.

On the top of that: For the ones like me, that don’t like to play dungeons (my time is limited so I prefer to jump quickly for some action and leave whenever I must) and need dungeon sets for cosmetic purpose only (I don’t care that much for the gear, I have already 16 characters decked in exotics) I don’t really get why there’s such a limitation.
I am perfectly willing to do all the paths 3 times to get all of the sets, but for god’s sake, if I wanted to get them all the way it is, it would have been 6×3×8=144 full path runs…
If you take one path for 66 games it is 9504 games.

If you take that a game lasts for 5 minutes, it is 47520 minutes.

and that makes… 33 days spend on PvP…

And that is absolutely ridiculous…

It states that you’ll get the full set, so this makes no sense. ANet, please fix this bug.

bullkitten is the reward for nothing its like 70+ games for the standard person to achieve this and while it can be done in 2 days with enough dedication its more time spent then actually doing arah with a decent group and this is coming from somebody who does atleast 1 path of each dungeon daily.
it would take 25-30 hours for normal person to achieve 3 weapons + 1 dungeon armour piece this way for arah and yet with my guild group it would only take 20 hours to get a full armour set although it would be across 2 weeks of playing rather then 25-30 hours in 2-3 days. if we then also take into account all the other useful drops u get out of dungeons and the extra bonus gold please dont give me the everybody wants it for no effort kitten.
we take other dungeons and the current rewards are pointless as every other dungeon is much quicker then arah. for example CoF would take less then 10 hours across 2-3 weeks of time to achieve a full dungeon armour set and 4-5 weapons and thats just running p1 each day you then take into account about 20+g made and please explain to me how its meant to be harder then the current pvp rewards system that would take triple that amount of time for nowhere near the same rewards.

It would be awesome if we would get a response here. Just so we know if it’s a bug or not.

Seems fair tbh. You can reach this goal casually (although the time frame is a bit of a crunch if you’re employed) but dungeons are a pain to organize and do right.

OneManArmy.9732:

EverythingEnds.4261:

@OneManArmy: I got 2 clovers out of it. :/

rly? devs must be laughing at us.

I was saying the exact same thing in guild today.. 2 clovers are a joke for so much work. I thought they said they wanted to balance pve and pvp?

It seems there was some miscommunication here…

I believe they intended it to be one piece but due to how the text was phrased, people assumed it was a whole set.

They really have to double check these things…

blakdoxa.7520:

It seems there was some miscommunication here…

I believe they intended it to be one piece but due to how the text was phrased, people assumed it was a whole set.

They really have to double check these things…

Except they give us weapons all along the way. So far I’m at 58% and I picked two weapons worth 390 tokens a piece. Why would they give us expensive items all along the way only to have the goal be less than what we got all along?

Morsus.5106:

blakdoxa.7520:

It seems there was some miscommunication here…

I believe they intended it to be one piece but due to how the text was phrased, people assumed it was a whole set.

They really have to double check these things…

Except they give us weapons all along the way. So far I’m at 58% and I picked two weapons worth 390 tokens a piece. Why would they give us expensive items all along the way only to have the goal be less than what we got all along?

Exactly. If one piece of gear was intended than do you really think that 3 pieces of weapons were also intended?
That would be a hell of a twisted logic, of that I’m sure.

Easy fix then: rotate the weapon boxes and the armor boxes on the reward track and thus you end up with
3 armor pieces and 1 weapon for 1 full track or
2 full tracks = 6 pieces + enough tokens for the last 2 pieces + 2 weapons.