Guild Wars 2

Perhaps I don’t understand this aspect of the game but this morning, three times was I on a team where the autobalance warning activated and as luck would have it, I got changed over to the other team. In each case I joined right when it began. It is very frustrating when you get up to 300+ points in a match and then get changed over to the other team only to get the loss. I think there may be some problems with this system as it sometimes gets very upsetting to put in a good bit of work to support your team only to have that taken from you.

If your team is winning and your team changes due to auto-balance, you still get a win, not a loss.

maddoctor.2738:

If your team is winning and your team changes due to auto-balance, you still get a win, not a loss.

I didn’t know that. Thanks for the info!

Personally i’m guilty of taking the change to get more points for volunteering

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Don’t judge me!

I think i’m more “annoyed” at the imbalance of players coming in after a round starts, so many rounds of 3v4 3v5, wouldn’t it be better if new players are spectators until another joins to balance.

It’s a guaranteed victory if you get auto-balanced. Always click on the volunteer button, unless you have other reasons.

Yeah DValerius, no idea why it allows uneven fights (3v4, 4v5.) Can’t it just hold the extra person until someone else joins?

Then again, this is the same system that would rather solo queue games be uneven than fill the spot with someone in queue. Seriously, what’s the point of having a queue if a game that has someone leave right at the start can’t get a replacement? Why should I suffer because some kitten wants to eat a Dishonorable stack so he doesn’t have to play Skyhammer or Spirit Watch? Wouldn’t it be easy to just… fill the spot with someone? Since “Play Now” already does it?

I’ve seen people jump out into spectator mode waiting for the auto balance so they could join the winning team…

Swimsasa Stoon.8936:

I’ve seen people jump out into spectator mode waiting for the auto balance so they could join the winning team…

Well it’s hotjoin. Ppl will do a lot of “weird” stuff to get the win bonus there. One popular method is to spectacte at the beginning to determine ranks of ppl playing and join the high rank team. The high rankers regularly stack on one side, too.

Hotjoin is a complete mess with “honor” being rare. Accept that and you’ll get a lot less frustrated. Play it for what it is, win or lose. No one’s going to track your losses in hotjoin so why stress over it?

Tom Gore.4035:

Swimsasa Stoon.8936:

I’ve seen people jump out into spectator mode waiting for the auto balance so they could join the winning team…

Well it’s hotjoin. Ppl will do a lot of “weird” stuff to get the win bonus there. One popular method is to spectacte at the beginning to determine ranks of ppl playing and join the high rank team. The high rankers regularly stack on one side, too.

Hotjoin is a complete mess with “honor” being rare. Accept that and you’ll get a lot less frustrated. Play it for what it is, win or lose. No one’s going to track your losses in hotjoin so why stress over it?

Many go into sPvP for the new rewards. Winning gets those rewards faster. Especially if you hit volunteer.

Autobalance doesn’t do a thing. Here’s what happens every time:

• 4 vs 2
• somebody gets autobalanced onto the losing team: 3 vs 3
• a new player joins the winning team: 4 vs 3

I don’t see why players are even allowed to join the winning team when both teams have the same number of players.

At the moment, you don’t play for points to win. You play to get an early headstart, so new players are guaranteed to join YOUR team and not the other one, thus ensuring the victory by player numbers rather than better play.

I know that teams eventually even out at 5 vs 5 or 8 vs 8 or whatever, but at that time in most cases one team is too far ahead for the rest of the game to be interesting.

As for autobalancing: not only are you guaranteed to get the win bonus, but also an additional autobalance bonus of 25 rank points, which is really nice and all the incentive anybody needs to help out the other team, so that part is working at least.

However, in order to have the chance to get the guaranteed win and the autobalance bonus, you have to be on the dominating (by player numbers) team first, so this, too, just makes people join the winning team instead of the losing team whenever they have a chance. Autobalance on its own is, therefore, not helpful enough making the games more balanced and interesting.

TL;DR: players should be forced to join the losing team when both teams have even player numbers.

Forcing people to join the losing team is nonsense.
Playing poorly at the start should NEVER be a good strategy.

Just assign people to a random team unless the game hasnt started yet.

Zero.6592:

Forcing people to join the losing team is nonsense.
Playing poorly at the start should NEVER be a good strategy.

Playing poorly at the start (or at any point) wouldn’t be a strategy. The team would have 1 more player but would still be behind in points. The winning team would soon have another player, evening out player numbers. The losing team would only get more members until such time as it would be ahead in numbers, in which case the formerly winning team would be in the same position, and get the next new player. Nobody would play for kittenty scores… it wouldn’t make sense. ò_Ô