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Posted by: Bazooka.3590

Bazooka.3590

After hundreds of pvp matches and a half year of wvw i think i need to suggest some of the most owerpovered builds to be balanced.
Not only my opinion. I discussed with many other players whom i was dueling. Even they considered overpowered their own builds.
-never ending KD warriror: knock u down and you cant get up again
-never ending stealth thief: going stealth, remove all conditions, heal himself to maximum, replenish initiative (and you find yourselves in a never ending loop of combat which is very boring after a half hour…)
-mm necro: immortal (results always win in pvp)
-pistol mesmer: they`re just damage way too much
-all condition removing ranger: immortal for a condi build (really)
So i think these are the most overpowered builds in pvp/wvw and because of that these are the most poular ones too:(
Nearly everybody started to play one of this builds. Very unbalanced i think.
Consider this suggestions please and write your opininon.

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Posted by: Yasha.5963

Yasha.5963

Only from an spvp/tpvp point of view:

I think the stun-lock warrior is good, becomes OP with bow condition cleanse and HS, but a “stun-lock” type class/build is excellent for group play. Also most of the warrior skill animations that stun or knockdown are well telegraphed which means their is ample room for counterplay.

I don’t know how good the thief build you described is for spvp/tpvp.

MM necro seems a little too strong, hambow warrior is a decent counter- but there you have 2 OP specs so…

Ranger- I don’t know any “all condition removing ranger build”; if anything rangers have terrible condition removal: a GM trait that takes three conditions away every ten secs and transfers to pet (killing pet), a heal that periodically cleanses some conditions, and a signet on a long CD that I wouldn’t take on most builds. In the current meta you basically have to take that GM trait and healing spring and conditions still destroy you.

Meditation guard has much better condition removal on short CDs, engi has automated response GM that makes them immune to conditions at 25% health, thief cleanses in stealth and on some other skills, warrior LB has on demand 1-3 condi cleanse every 8 secs that also does huge aoe damage, and a condition immunity trait. They all trump the ranger in condi-removal imo.

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Posted by: style.6173

style.6173

@OP: You lose all credibility by talking about thieves stealthing. No one cares about that in PvP. If this was a WvW thread, it would be different.

If you see a thief stealth a lot in PvP, you should be happy. It makes they can’t defend or take a point from you.

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Posted by: Siva Mira.3546

Siva Mira.3546

@style.6173: In conquest, Stealth is useless but in Dueling, Stealth is unstoppable and that was what the OP mean to say.

Right now in sPvP with conquest mode, Stealth does not cause any harm to the balance but in the future where more game modes come out and do not have cap point you will see Stealth became an issue and specially PU mesmer.

All is vain.

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Posted by: Quincy.2198

Quincy.2198

Or we stop complaining already.
Anet knows our opinion, this won’t make a difference.

Ninov Is Strng
Ninov Ftw

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Posted by: Elxdark.9702

Elxdark.9702

This is the first game I have played which have so many QQers.

Get better and stop qqing.

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Posted by: Cynz.9437

Cynz.9437

anet:
- nerfs choke bomb because hey 1 sec extra poison is OP
- nerfs infr. strike because omg thieves can get stomp off

- 0 kittens given about imbalance on skyhammer
- 0 kittens given about imbalance on spirit watch
- 0 kittens given about AI ruining pvp
- 0 kittens given about wars stupid survivability
- 0 kittens given about port/floor bug
- 0 kittens given about condi meta
- 0 kittens given about lack of maps
- 0 kittens given about engis being stupid broken as decap or on skyhammer
- 0 kittens given about 4v5

LOOK AT THIS PRIORITIES! (slowclap) Put so much effort, time and money into changing some low priority stuff (some of changes didn’t even make ANY SENSE WHATSHOWEVER) but completely ignore the biggest complains that been there FOR MONTHS!

P.S. yes, i typed kittens… cats, animals… those creatures with 4 legs

All is Vain~
[Teef] guild :>

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Posted by: hellsmachine.4085

hellsmachine.4085

You’re upset that a counter-condition build can remove conditions? Sounds like a L2P issue to me.

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Posted by: Incurafy.6329

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LOL @ stealth being OP in duels, ever since the initiative nerfs permastealth has been impossible without the investment of bad traits and lengthy utilities with extremely high telegraphy, and anyone with half a brain will know where the Thief is the instant they use black powder for more stealth.

This thread has literally zero credibility, NEXT.

thiefhitfor2kbetternerf
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Posted by: Bazooka.3590

Bazooka.3590

Thank you for the answers.
But plz dont let ingame flame overwhelm the topic even if its hard sometimes.
I just want a conversation which skills/traits/builds do you find overpowered in pvp. I do not want flaming.
And yes I hope Anet will give a “kitten” about these kind of things in future updates if we “complaining” enough.
This thing is called customer feedback.
So please write only if you have something constuctive to say to help improve ingame balance.

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Posted by: Cynz.9437

Cynz.9437

no, my point is: anet won’t change anything no matter how much we complain… look at past few months patches, they speak for themself

suggestions? constructive feedback? get real… none of that matters or is even read…

the only person who reads what we write is forum mods to make sure we are not rude to each other or devs

(walks out of another 4v5 skyhammer match….)
edit1: oh look another skyhammer…
edit2: oh look spirit watch…

how do you manage to design a game so bad that ppl actually start to hate pvp?

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