Guild Wars 2

Ellie.5913:

Harper.4173:

Ellie.5913:

Valik Shin.9027:

why is it every time some gets their feelings hurt they come on the forums and com plain about the community being toxic? Do these people live in a bubble? Do you even interact with the real world? This game is way less toxic than real life or most other games for that matter

Um no sorry but you are wrong, people in real life would never come up to me and say the horrible things that people on this game say sometimes and if they did they’d probably get slapped in the face which is something you can’t do over the internet so that’s where cowards go to try to bully people and talk a lot of crap since they think there’s not gonna be any consequences .

The people that don’t do that in real life don’t do it because they’re interested in the social aspect and implications those harsh words may have.
You’ll find that a lot of harsh verbal violence takes place between either very close people ( where there’s a lot of anger and people feel justified) or between total strangers ( where there are no foreseeable social consequences).

If people talked that way you’d probably slap them and then they’d probably hit you back.
Violence is not the answer – I agree – but responding to verbal violence with physical violence as you suggest just shows how poorly people understand things and how unprepared you are to deal with violence of any sort in your life.

Oh what a weird conclusion to come to considering you don’t even know me.
And yea in real life most people don’t go around verbally abusing others and if they do they can expect some type of retaliation which is usually physical, just because it’s the internet and you can hide behind a monitor doesn’t mean you have the right to verbally abuse anyone and I’m glad there’s report features for that, I think they should make the punishments harsher though. I mean if some one really wanted to they could record /screen shot people who harass them and sue them over it and with enough proof could win and make that person serve some time in jail/prison, it’s happened before and I’m sure it will happen again. Maybe if we had harsher punishments for it on games people would think twice before trying to bully some one and everyone can have a more happy peaceful gaming environment.

Actually over the internet it isn’t “verbal” abuse because there is no spoken language. The fact that you still believe that IRL a verbal abuse should be followed by a physical response still says a lot about you and what your core values are.

Also good luck with the screen caps and judging people continents away – let me know how that works out.

Do you have any idea how absurdly funny that idea of yours just was? Imagine this happening. Do you honestly believe justice systems all over the world are equipped to deal with the possibly overwhelming number of cases that might appear? Do you think they’d care somebody called you “bad” or “noob” in PvP?

Silencing people is not the solution – if you want people to not be hurt by bullying maybe you should help them by teaching and encouraging them to not be so sensitive and actually toughen up.

It’s not that hard precisely because it’s the internet. These are written words – the moment you realize you can just stop looking at them is the moment you realize you’re not in such a bad spot.

Seriously – all this SJW “microaggression” stuff has gotten really out of hand.

It is verbal abuse and harassment, doesn’t matter if it’s online, watched plenty of true story programs about how people got sued for such things and went to jail for it and also was reading a forum post the other day from some guy in Asia who said he knew some one who spent 30 days in jail for harassing some one online, so yea it does happen there’s laws against online harassment/bullying but go on and believe whatever you want. Just because some one is being bullied online doesn’t mean they should have to leave and stop going online. Quite the opposite, the harasser should have to leave the internet and stop bothering people. You seem very angry btw, you must be one of these cyber bullies who thinks they should never have to pay for their cruel behavior…well good luck with that, karma has a way of dealing with people.

GW1 had a stats buff in pvp when you didn’t have an Elite skill equipped. Maybe GW2 could try and have a pvp stats buff for builds that don’t use an Elite spec? Either a flat celestial buff or a % bonus on the equipped amulet.

Razor.9872:

Harper.4173:

So uninstall this too – this game is balanced around the idea that Elite specs are the new thing and if you’re not going to pay you’re going to be underpowered. Your team will rage at you and for good reason.

Almost all ( if not all ) elite specs are clear upgrades over the classic core classes – so you’re holding your team back if you don’t have elite specs.

Elite specs will eventually be free for all, but it will take a long time (1-2 years)

Will they? That’s not something that could be inferred from anything Anet said, as far as i know (unless you are talking about their statement of how HoT will be free with next expac, in which case you’re misunderstanding what was really said).

Besides, with the trend we have now, current elite spec builds will become obsolete (the same way core builds became obsolete now) as soon as the next expac with new, even better elite specs will arrive.

Harper.4173:

That sound like a great idea! Let’s ban paying customers because they’ve hurt someone’s feelings.

How about people just toughen up – realize that words don’t actually hurt if you choose to ignore them and maybe we can just go back to normal.

Don’t know where you come from. But in civilised communities it’s common sense that you be nice to each other. If your parents missed to teach you the basics of human interaction that’s bad for you, but you still may learn, right?

And you agreed to these terms by installing Guild Wars 2.

While playing Guild Wars 2, you must respect the rights of others and their rights to play and enjoy the Game. To this end, you may not defraud, harass, threaten, embarrass or cause distress and/or unwanted attention to other players. This includes posting insulting, offensive, or abusive comments about players, repeatedly sending unwanted messages, reporting players maliciously, attacking a player based on race, sexual orientation, religion, heritage, etc. Hate speech is not tolerated.

Besides, with the trend we have now, current elite spec builds will become obsolete (the same way core builds became obsolete now) as soon as the next expac with new, even better elite specs will arrive.

Until we see evidence of it, my stance is that the current elite specs are and should be better than the vanilla builds, since you can access those through F2P while the HoT ones you have to pay for and earn on top of all existing builds, however I do not believe that xpac2 elite specs should be better than HoT specs, they should be equal. All elite specs should be better than vanilla, but equal to each other.

Of course some elite specs will outperform others, some classes the elite spec2 will definitely be better than the HoT one, in others I expect them to be worse in many ways, and of course since PvP is only one of the game types some will end up providing a larger or smaller advantage in PvP than in other modes, but all in all I don’t expect them to be a tier higher than HoT specs.

And of course players shifting to xpac2 specs might then open up holes that would make certain HoT specs even more viable, because they would have tools to help shut down the new nonsense.

“current elite specs are and should be better than the vanilla builds, since you can access those through F2P while the HoT ones you have to pay "

sigh.. what makes you so bad you need to buy an advantage over f2p? do you have no pride?

Ohoni.6057:

Until we see evidence of it, my stance is that the current elite specs are and should be better than the vanilla builds, since you can access those through F2P while the HoT ones you have to pay for and earn on top of all existing builds, however I do not believe that xpac2 elite specs should be better than HoT specs, they should be equal. All elite specs should be better than vanilla, but equal to each other.

There are vanilla players that paid for core too, you know. Why exactly they are supposed to be inferior to HoT players? Especially to new hot players, that didn’t in fact pay more than old veterans?

Besides, if the argument that HoT specs should be better than core, in order to encourage people to buy the expac is treated as sensible, it will be as much true for the next expac in line (and the next, and the next…). This creates power creep that once started, will be hard to contain.

gebrechen.5643:

Harper.4173:

That sound like a great idea! Let’s ban paying customers because they’ve hurt someone’s feelings.

How about people just toughen up – realize that words don’t actually hurt if you choose to ignore them and maybe we can just go back to normal.

Don’t know where you come from. But in civilised communities it’s common sense that you be nice to each other. If your parents missed to teach you the basics of human interaction that’s bad for you, but you still may learn, right?

And you agreed to these terms by installing Guild Wars 2.

While playing Guild Wars 2, you must respect the rights of others and their rights to play and enjoy the Game. To this end, you may not defraud, harass, threaten, embarrass or cause distress and/or unwanted attention to other players. This includes posting insulting, offensive, or abusive comments about players, repeatedly sending unwanted messages, reporting players maliciously, attacking a player based on race, sexual orientation, religion, heritage, etc. Hate speech is not tolerated.

Be nice? Sure – but telling someone they’re bad and they’re in the wrong place is not being “un-nice” – it’s being honest if they truly are bad.
Ranked PvP is not for the inexperienced – that’s what unranked is for. If people can’t even read chat then yes – I’m going to call them out.
Is that not nice? At least it’s honest.

Just because people are supposed to be civil doesn’t mean you can put up with completely terrible players just for the sake of being “nice”.
Sometime people just need to be told the plain truth.

Ofc it’s toxic, every patch contains CRIMES against the game engine and combat mechanics. The whole pvp combat is totally kitten over by juni patch and hot and the several laughable updates that carryed as much cancer as purity…

sigh.. what makes you so bad you need to buy an advantage over f2p? do you have no pride?

It’s not about me, it’s about ANet. I don’t feel that I need any advantages, but ANet wants ALL players, including PvP players, to have a good reason to buy the game. Putting money in should offer some benefits to players of all game modes, otherwise how could ANet justify putting their own money into developing that game mode? Convincing hardcore PvPers to put money into the game only benefits the PvP aspects of the game.

There are vanilla players that paid for core too, you know. Why exactly they are supposed to be inferior to HoT players? Especially to new hot players, that didn’t in fact pay more than old veterans?

Yeah, but if you paid full retail for vanilla then that was three years ago, time to re-up. And if you bought it considerably more recently, then it was only like $10, so boo-hoo if it can’t keep up with the $50 version. If you bought vanilla GW2, you got your money’s worth out of that purchase before HoT dropped, no basis for complaining.

Besides, if the argument that HoT specs should be better than core, in order to encourage people to buy the expac is treated as sensible, it will be as much true for the next expac in line (and the next, and the next…). This creates power creep that once started, will be hard to contain.

That would be true if the game hadn’t gone F2P. The distinction is really between the F2P version and the paid version. When xpac 2 comes out, I fully expect players to be able to upgrade directly from F2P to Xpac 2, skipping HoT, and get access to all the new classes, and maybe a few “core” elements from HoT like the Pact Tyria masteries and perhaps gliding, but not the Magus Falls maps, specs, masteries, raids, etc.

Harper.4173:

gebrechen.5643:

Harper.4173:

That sound like a great idea! Let’s ban paying customers because they’ve hurt someone’s feelings.

How about people just toughen up – realize that words don’t actually hurt if you choose to ignore them and maybe we can just go back to normal.

Don’t know where you come from. But in civilised communities it’s common sense that you be nice to each other. If your parents missed to teach you the basics of human interaction that’s bad for you, but you still may learn, right?

And you agreed to these terms by installing Guild Wars 2.

While playing Guild Wars 2, you must respect the rights of others and their rights to play and enjoy the Game. To this end, you may not defraud, harass, threaten, embarrass or cause distress and/or unwanted attention to other players. This includes posting insulting, offensive, or abusive comments about players, repeatedly sending unwanted messages, reporting players maliciously, attacking a player based on race, sexual orientation, religion, heritage, etc. Hate speech is not tolerated.

Be nice? Sure – but telling someone they’re bad and they’re in the wrong place is not being “un-nice” – it’s being honest if they truly are bad.
Ranked PvP is not for the inexperienced – that’s what unranked is for. If people can’t even read chat then yes – I’m going to call them out.
Is that not nice? At least it’s honest.

Just because people are supposed to be civil doesn’t mean you can put up with completely terrible players just for the sake of being “nice”.
Sometime people just need to be told the plain truth.

According to the matchmaker you belong on whatever team you’re in and should just L2p and git gud and stop blaming others(or if you want a team you can boss around and tell everyone what to do using whatever type of language you wish;preferably people who know you because random people usually will not tolerate verbal abuse, make your own team before entering). Oh and calling people names and telling them they don’t belong in the game and to leave and stuff is breaking the rules, did you even read the rules….

And back to zero pips. Called it.

Ellie.5913:

Harper.4173:

gebrechen.5643:

Harper.4173:

That sound like a great idea! Let’s ban paying customers because they’ve hurt someone’s feelings.

How about people just toughen up – realize that words don’t actually hurt if you choose to ignore them and maybe we can just go back to normal.

Don’t know where you come from. But in civilised communities it’s common sense that you be nice to each other. If your parents missed to teach you the basics of human interaction that’s bad for you, but you still may learn, right?

And you agreed to these terms by installing Guild Wars 2.

While playing Guild Wars 2, you must respect the rights of others and their rights to play and enjoy the Game. To this end, you may not defraud, harass, threaten, embarrass or cause distress and/or unwanted attention to other players. This includes posting insulting, offensive, or abusive comments about players, repeatedly sending unwanted messages, reporting players maliciously, attacking a player based on race, sexual orientation, religion, heritage, etc. Hate speech is not tolerated.

Be nice? Sure – but telling someone they’re bad and they’re in the wrong place is not being “un-nice” – it’s being honest if they truly are bad.
Ranked PvP is not for the inexperienced – that’s what unranked is for. If people can’t even read chat then yes – I’m going to call them out.
Is that not nice? At least it’s honest.

Just because people are supposed to be civil doesn’t mean you can put up with completely terrible players just for the sake of being “nice”.
Sometime people just need to be told the plain truth.

According to the matchmaker you belong on whatever team you’re in and should just L2p and git gud and stop blaming others(or if you want a team you can boss around and tell everyone what to do using whatever type of language you wish;preferably people who know you because random people usually will not tolerate verbal abuse, make your own team before entering). Oh and calling people names and telling them they don’t belong in the game and to leave and stuff is breaking the rules, did you even read the rules….

The matchmaker is a joke – and I’ll explain why.
People can “farm” their rank. Yes – it is entirely possible.
I’ve seen people in sapphire who don’t know how to rotate, who don’t know how to go in 3 v 1 and are just godawful. How is this possible you ask me? How are they rated so highly?

They farmed their rank last season. They are not good – but they managed to artificially increase their rank. Here’s a method( I’m sure there were others).

Last season very few people played stronghold – especially near the end – you could created a cheese group of 3 MM necros and 1 healer ele and go in as a 4man. You didn’t even have to be good because:

1. You weren’t going to play stronghold-prepared people – you did this at various times around the day when a lot of people forgot stronghold ticked on and got into the matches but weren’t prepared for it.

2.The queues were long – but eventually the matchmaking system gave up on trying to give you a balanced game and just gave you whoever else was on – usually newbie players that were amber or emerald and had no idea what they were even doing – most likely joining stronghold by mistake.
Very rarely would you get other teams that did this – and if you did and they were better than you you would lose once and postpone your farm until a time these better guys weren’t on.

So yes – it was possible to be horrible at the game and still get to ruby/diamond or legendary simply by doing this.
The queue times were long – about 40 minutes sometimes – but after those 40 minutes you were almost always guaranteed a win because your 4 man diamond team would go against 5 unprepared for stronghold emerald/amber/sapphire players.
Rinse and repeat – get to legendary.

-Ballad of the Sad Panda-

Nerf Conditions! Nerf Power!
Your class makes me sour!

Every darn class is always OP!
Except me of course, that’s easy to see!

Dem burn guards me kill,
like I’m on a kitten grill.

Please, drop your CC
while I go to peepee.

And tank with my face,
that’s not a disgrace!

And if we should lose the game,
I don’t feel any shame.

The forums I find
And speak my mind.

“I hate you all.”

“Die away from me.”

THE END

/Bows

I can’t wait to get my wings. After that i will just join matches and afk for the lulz. Soon…very soon.

Crowley.8761:

-Ballad of the Sad Panda-

Nerf Conditions! Nerf Power!
Your class makes me sour!

Every darn class is always OP!
Except me of course, that’s easy to see!

Dem burn guards me kill,
like I’m on a kitten grill.

Please, drop your CC
while I go to peepee.

And tank with my face,
that’s not a disgrace!

And if we should lose the game,
I don’t feel any shame.

The forums I find
And speak my mind.

“I hate you all.”

“Die away from me.”

THE END

/Bows

DUDE could you put music with this and sing it on youtube, then post the link?o.O
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3dY6aCUe9Y it would go good with this music

There I did it for you! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSfVlu3MYzU