Guild Wars 2

Blu is leaving Guild Wars 2
Evidance: https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/352nob/blu_moving_on_from_guild_wars_2/

Too bad…well i dont play gw2 for like 2 months either so i understand himGame is boring and stale. PvP and Wvw potential is wasted, i dont think expack will change anything.

Yeah I mostly play WvW and I just like killing enemy blobs other than that stale

Is it bad if I never heared of him before?

Well, take care Blu! Thanks for doing some things that most people (and an entire company) could not!

Malediktus.3108:

Is it bad if I never heared of him before?

Considering it did not give you AP’s, no, it is not bad, it was expected from you

Not even the most zealous fan of GW2 can stick with the current state of affairs.

It’s not even the slow as molasses PvP patches or lack of any notable rewards. Those are forgivable and can be fixed pretty easy.

It’s the fact that they INTENTIONALLY…

1. Place brand new players in RANKED matches with (and against) experienced players.
2. Have a “leaderboard” that is anything but a list of grinders.
3. Matchmake premades that could have voice com against solo quers.
4. Create heavy AI based professions/builds with AI programming worse than that created 10 years ago in WoW 1.0

I don’t care how good the combat system is. Name any game on the planet where people will flock to playing under such a ridiculous model.

So Blu and Ostrich Eggs, two of the most fanatical and devoted GW2 players have left the building! Literally Ostrich Eggs would dream about GW2 and wake up with sweat all over his GW2 jammies and log on to play GW2 for the next 36 hours pausing only to smoke, guzzle beer, and throw darts at a picture of Noscoc! These guys have retired and the only people left are the ones Arenanet pay and the people that want to be paid! It’s time to make a change! It’s time to add arenas!

Wahoo! Bye frands!

ArrDee.2573:

So Blu and Ostrich Eggs, two of the most fanatical and devoted GW2 players have left the building! Literally Ostrich Eggs would dream about GW2 and wake up with sweat all over his GW2 jammies and log on to play GW2 for the next 36 hours pausing only to smoke, guzzle beer, and throw darts at a picture of Noscoc! These guys have retired and the only people left are the ones Arenanet pay and the people that want to be paid! It’s time to make a change! It’s time to add arenas!

Wahoo! Bye frands!

Kinky stuff here

Best anwer ever GoogleBrandon !!!!!

ArrDee.2573:

It’s time to add arenas!

Hello my frand! Could you please elaborate on this?

Jasher.6580:

ArrDee.2573:

It’s time to add arenas!

Hello my frand! Could you please elaborate on this?

Game needs best of 3 2v2 and 3v3 elimination matches. Raw face to face pvp, the center piece of WOW’s pvp, and a market that greatly needs more attention. With the ease of access of the game, and the relatively decent balance in small skirmishes (outside of 1v1) they could yank a lot of players from WoW and have more enjoyable to watch “esports” that is easier to follow and less about spamming AOEs onto a point. That sort of stuff.

ronpierce.2760:

Jasher.6580:

ArrDee.2573:

It’s time to add arenas!

Hello my frand! Could you please elaborate on this?

Game needs best of 3 2v2 and 3v3 elimination matches. Raw face to face pvp, the center piece of WOW’s pvp, and a market that greatly needs more attention. With the ease of access of the game, and the relatively decent balance in small skirmishes (outside of 1v1) they could yank a lot of players from WoW and have more enjoyable to watch “esports” that is easier to follow and less about spamming AOEs onto a point. That sort of stuff.

this is good. let’s add RA too.

Too bad he is missing out on the awesome PvP buff.

ronpierce.2760:

Jasher.6580:

ArrDee.2573:

It’s time to add arenas!

Hello my frand! Could you please elaborate on this?

Game needs best of 3 2v2 and 3v3 elimination matches. Raw face to face pvp, the center piece of WOW’s pvp, and a market that greatly needs more attention. With the ease of access of the game, and the relatively decent balance in small skirmishes (outside of 1v1) they could yank a lot of players from WoW and have more enjoyable to watch “esports” that is easier to follow and less about spamming AOEs onto a point. That sort of stuff.

I would LOVE this.

Sad. But not surprised due to current status of pvp.

GoogleBrandon.5073:

Well, take care Blu! Thanks for doing some things that most people (and an entire company) could not!

Malediktus.3108:

Is it bad if I never heared of him before?

Considering it did not give you AP’s, no, it is not bad, it was expected from you

Maybe Anet could implent an achievement for it?

Malediktus.3108:

GoogleBrandon.5073:

Well, take care Blu! Thanks for doing some things that most people (and an entire company) could not!

Malediktus.3108:

Is it bad if I never heared of him before?

Considering it did not give you AP’s, no, it is not bad, it was expected from you

Maybe Anet could implent an achievement for it?

You’re just scalping for AP since you’ve heard of him now. Shoo! Find your own AP.

I heared his name now, but I still dont know anything about him.

A likely story.

I don’t blame him. It was painful to watch him put effort into a game where the developers couldn’t give a flying kitten.

Collero.7963:

I don’t blame him. It was painful to watch him put effort into a game where the developers couldn’t give a flying kitten.

Kind of like class and pvp forums and forum specialist. People who dump hours of research and valid arguments into plain sight and yet glaring issues and bugs go without notice some how for months to years in some cases. They really should take HoT serious for the opportunity to make this game better and not use it just to make a quick buck off a new zone and some flashy specializations… It’s really in their best interest.

SPESHAL.9106:

Not even the most zealous fan of GW2 can stick with the current state of affairs.

It’s not even the slow as molasses PvP patches or lack of any notable rewards. Those are forgivable and can be fixed pretty easy.

It’s the fact that they INTENTIONALLY…

1. Place brand new players in RANKED matches with (and against) experienced players.
2. Have a “leaderboard” that is anything but a list of grinders.
3. Matchmake premades that could have voice com against solo quers.
4. Create heavy AI based professions/builds with AI programming worse than that created 10 years ago in WoW 1.0

I don’t care how good the combat system is. Name any game on the planet where people will flock to playing under such a ridiculous model.

Even the very few diehard esports supporters complain about stuff like leaderboards, queuing in hotm, balance patch frequency. They complain on the forums, in game and on streams. When even your die hard fan boys are complaining the game has fundamental issues relating to its pvp infrastructure.

The devs will know of the issues though, they are smart people. In the real workd often you just dont have the resources to do what needs to be done. I work somewhere where everyone knows we need to do x, y and z. But doing those things whilst maintaining the existing service is difficult with limited resources

I saw it coming. his presence has dropped off and Aspect GG seems to have been the last attempt at creating GW2 material. GW2 is sort of a dead end for casters due to low interest in its pvp. he will be missed, but yeah, ded gaem is ded gaem (relatively). I hope to see things improve with the xpac, but likely they will remain about the same due to snail’s pace of fixing major bugs and exploits, and balancing. competitive pvp games need dedicated professionals playing and understanding the game at a high level of play, and in turn cranking out updates fast. this is why I play dota 2 (and hopefully Overwatch soon if it gets the right support from Blizz).

but im sure most of us will still buy the xpac for the novelty, as we’re probably really attached to our characters and want new toys. ANet is good at that. they aren’t very good at iterating and providing timely fixes. in fact, they are probably the worst company for that.

Collero.7963:

I don’t blame him. It was painful to watch him put effort into a game where the developers couldn’t give a flying kitten.

they care, and they care A LOT. but either 1) there aren’t enough of them, or 2) they are quite incompetent/inexperienced. I think it’s a little from column A, and a little from column B.

p.s. I didn’t know OE left as well. he was quite fanatical and loved the game. it’s probably the healthiest decision for him, but still. ded gaem.

First OE and now Blu…

RIP Blu 2012-2015.

Despite the haters we’ll miss those unbreathing moments.

When OE leave?

GL to BLu, he did a lot for community and i can understand why he leaves

for me personally , fight club was probably the most fun experience he and other people organized

Cya when the expansion or boredom of CS:GO sets in Blu…

Will miss your casting.

Elxdark.9702:

First OE and now Blu…

RIP Blu 2012-2015.

Despite the haters we’ll miss those unbreathing moments.

Considering your hate of Happy Kid this made me LOL

SobeSoul.6910:

Cya when the expansion or boredom of CS:GO sets in Blu…

Will miss your casting.

Elxdark.9702:

First OE and now Blu…

RIP Blu 2012-2015.

Despite the haters we’ll miss those unbreathing moments.

Considering your hate of Happy Kid this made me LOL

What are you talking about? I love happy kid best thief na forever.

Bule the mule.

tronjeremy.5820:

Sad. But not surprised due to current status of pvp.

While I thank him for his efforts, I have thought we would be better off if someone wasn’t doing ArenaNet’s job for them (imo it allowed them to slip into inaction more). Still this is seen as another blow to morale here. Do not worry brothers, we will be distracted tomorrow by the guardian blogs, and then in 2 weeks by the “test season 2 findings” iceberg blog.

The only MMO out there with fun combat that cant get people interested in pvp. thats just sad. on a general note i do believe that this comes down to the fact of how badly you are getting rewarded in this game for doing pretty much anything especially PvP, gw2 has become nothing more than playing Dress up online.

Celtus.8456:

While I thank him for his efforts, I have thought we would be better off if someone wasn’t doing ArenaNet’s job for them (imo it allowed them to slip into inaction more). Still this is seen as another blow to morale here. Do not worry brothers, we will be distracted tomorrow by the guardian blogs, and then in 2 weeks by the “test season 2 findings” iceberg blog.

Findings:
Inconclusive. Preparing for Test season 3.
Wins give you 10 points. Loses give you 9 points. Lose 5 points every hour inactive. We’ll see if this is more skill-based.

Summed up the future for you. <3

Well anet doesn’t care anymore on their game. They know that it is more profitable to keep casual players invested in game by updating gem store items and selling comestic items instead of actually developing their game.

HoT will come with more gem store stuff than anything, and it is simply another half-kitten content that will only cater to those that play open-world. Anet is using ESL to lure some competitive players, but for rest, well go buy more gem store items. At this point pvp community will die in no time since it is clearly losing its population and competitiveness, but you know, as long as anet makes money, pvp players should kitten and stop whining.

I’m pretty sure anet doesn’t care even if all the community tournaments die out due to casters and hosters dropping. They would rather close off pvp section instead of improving the game over all.

Projects like the Leaderboards shouldn’t take three semesters to complete. If Anet’s “lets promote a grindfest leaderboard” craps-out, which it will, then they’ll likely revert to the latest MMR Algorithm firmware; aka patch 2014, that’s collecting dust on their desktop. Hopefully they’ll have a “Collaborative Development” page where they’’ll actually hear the community’s ideas.

Who ever is the PvP Director for

• Class Stacking Dailies
  *The Type Of Leaderboard (must cater to high mmr players in the 400games mark.
• Not wanting 2v2/3v3 Competitive Arenas
• Limiting PvP Players by keeping them in Hotm
  Needs to re-evaluate things because these are bad management practices.

b.o.t: See you in the next patch Blu :)

Saiyan.1704:

Projects like the Leaderboards shouldn’t take three semesters to complete. If Anet’s “lets promote a grindfest leaderboard” craps-out, which it will, then they’ll likely revert to the latest MMR Algorithm firmware; aka patch 2014, that’s collecting dust on their desktop. Hopefully they’ll have a “Collaborative Development” page where they’’ll actually hear the community’s ideas.

Who ever is the PvP Director for

• Class Stacking Dailies
  *The Type Of Leaderboard (must cater to high mmr players in the 400games mark.
• Not wanting 2v2/3v3 Competitive Arenas
• Limiting PvP Players by keeping them in Hotm
  Needs to re-evaluate things because these are bad management practices.

b.o.t: See you in the next patch Blu

The only reason 2v2/3v3 doesn’t exist is because they don’t want to “divide the pvp community any more.”

AKA, they don’t want Conquest to be barren and show just how awful it was as a primary game mode. If they were REALLY that concerned with splitting the community there are already ways to condense it. Not to mention the player base Arenas would attract.

ronpierce.2760:

Saiyan.1704:

Projects like the Leaderboards shouldn’t take three semesters to complete. If Anet’s “lets promote a grindfest leaderboard” craps-out, which it will, then they’ll likely revert to the latest MMR Algorithm firmware; aka patch 2014, that’s collecting dust on their desktop. Hopefully they’ll have a “Collaborative Development” page where they’’ll actually hear the community’s ideas.

Who ever is the PvP Director for

• Class Stacking Dailies
  *The Type Of Leaderboard (must cater to high mmr players in the 400games mark.
• Not wanting 2v2/3v3 Competitive Arenas
• Limiting PvP Players by keeping them in Hotm
  Needs to re-evaluate things because these are bad management practices.

b.o.t: See you in the next patch Blu

The only reason 2v2/3v3 doesn’t exist is because they don’t want to “divide the pvp community any more.”

AKA, they don’t want Conquest to be barren and show just how awful it was as a primary game mode. If they were REALLY that concerned with splitting the community there are already ways to condense it. Not to mention the player base Arenas would attract.

They should have made conquest something like wow arathi basin a big pvp map and focus on other game modes. Let’s be honest conquest doesn’t need that many maps we have way too many conquest maps. They could be using their resources and time on something else. Population might not be enough for 5v5 but for 2v2 and even 3v3 yes it is.

Qugi.2653:

Immensus.9732:

The only MMO out there with fun combat that cant get people interested in pvp. thats just sad. on a general note i do believe that this comes down to the fact of how badly you are getting rewarded in this game for doing pretty much anything especially PvP, gw2 has become nothing more than playing Dress up online.

I’d say a lot of lack of interest comes from the overall toxicity of the PvP community. We see posts about it here regularly. I’ve had countless conversations with guild members that said they tried PvP and got turned off because they were either insulted for not playing well or insulted for winning. It is often laughed off here as, "Well that’s PvP. " Until the PvP community starts policing itself instead of condoning bad mouthing new people trying to be a part of the community interest will indeed fade. .

Play a moba. The level of toxicity there (in game) is astounding. We’re all little angel’s in comparison.

Toxicity isn’t the reason why people don’t stay in the same pvp system. It’s playing the same pvp system and game mode over and over. It isn’t immersive enough; there’s no diversity. Moba have 20+ characters to choose from. That in itself is diversity. This game can’t function like that.

Saiyan.1704:

Qugi.2653:

Immensus.9732:

The only MMO out there with fun combat that cant get people interested in pvp. thats just sad. on a general note i do believe that this comes down to the fact of how badly you are getting rewarded in this game for doing pretty much anything especially PvP, gw2 has become nothing more than playing Dress up online.

I’d say a lot of lack of interest comes from the overall toxicity of the PvP community. We see posts about it here regularly. I’ve had countless conversations with guild members that said they tried PvP and got turned off because they were either insulted for not playing well or insulted for winning. It is often laughed off here as, "Well that’s PvP. " Until the PvP community starts policing itself instead of condoning bad mouthing new people trying to be a part of the community interest will indeed fade. .

Play a moba. The level of toxicity there (in game) is astounding. We’re all little angel’s in comparison.

Toxicity isn’t the reason why people don’t stay in the same pvp system. It’s playing the same pvp system and game mode over and over. It isn’t immersive enough; there’s no diversity. Moba have 20+ characters to choose from. That in itself is diversity. This game can’t function like that.

Well… another major difference is accessibility and read-ability. Good or bad you can usually see why you died in MOBAs, or you can see why someone else did when viewing. In GW2 why a thief just caused a fiery blast, daze, teleported half way across the screen a lightning bolt and avoided all attacks all in a second can be pretty confusing. (For better or for worse, I’m not picking on thieves here) PvP in GW2 is just too hectic for it to be taken seriously outside of, and the reason I suggest adding it, 2v2 and 3v3. Beyond that it becomes a total kitten-storm.

Blue made a good point about the state of spvp on the reddit post. Anet prides themself on being a company that listens to the community yet that seems to be completely untrue for spvp and wvw. Spvp has never been in good shape and the necessary elements needed to make sPvP a truly competetive and esports type of game has never been done. Its really hard to respect and understand the mindset of the devs who manage sPvP when its been almost 3 years of the same stuff.

It’s unfair to say ANet did this to themselves (or the pvp devs) it all basically summed down to what made more money and every pvp’er realized this after the first 3 months once the game released and the suggestions where pouring in the pvp forums. To some extent grouch pushed the pvp scene far enough for upper management to take notice and give him a job, but the updates (pvp-wise) in the past 2 years have been lackluster and lack of balance changes to correct broken specs (I can say after dhuumfire killed more than half of the pvp population [almost 90% of gw1 only pvp’ers I knew).

It’s no secret the gw2 pvp dev team is small and now lead by people who never played gw1 pvp (which is sadly more active than gw2 still) since they moved on to other projects. The only advice I can give the devs are balance updates not being so few per year, and not completely break specs, but keep them in line with other specs of similar caliber.

This comment will obviously fall into the abyss of deaf ears, but the removal of soloq made me lose interest in the game no matter how much the devs defend their broken soloq system of 3+1+1 vs 3+1+1= balanced guise. What happened to 1+1+1+1+1=1+1+1+1+1?

he’s right

anet is one of the worse when it comes to looking out for their players
it takes them forever to fix a single problem
skyhammer, turret engi, dishonor, mid air immob, class stacking, premade vs solo…need I go on?

some of these are STILL not fixed

they’re making it very hard for people to enjoy pvp

Qugi.2653:

Immensus.9732:

The only MMO out there with fun combat that cant get people interested in pvp. thats just sad. on a general note i do believe that this comes down to the fact of how badly you are getting rewarded in this game for doing pretty much anything especially PvP, gw2 has become nothing more than playing Dress up online.

I’d say a lot of lack of interest comes from the overall toxicity of the PvP community. We see posts about it here regularly. I’ve had countless conversations with guild members that said they tried PvP and got turned off because they were either insulted for not playing well or insulted for winning. It is often laughed off here as, "Well that’s PvP. " Until the PvP community starts policing itself instead of condoning bad mouthing new people trying to be a part of the community interest will indeed fade. .

I remember when i first started this game (not on release) people were so nice in pvp, complimenting eachother and helping newer players. A huge diffferece from what i see in queues today. Perhaps it is because people of so different skill level gets put with or against oneanother, but it still isnt hard to be respectful and nice to others.

Very very often i see top level players trashtalking worse players or flaming/raging. And it is still beyond me why they seem to expect everyone to be on their level. If you are playing in the go4 cups you shouldn’t expect people to be on your level. Period. I know matchmaking can be infuriating, but what happens is newer players get Flamed so they either leave the game or start to flame even newer players- which in turn repeats the cycle.

In the same way, dont’t get angry because people use weord or “bad” builds in your game. Condi mes, interrupt warrior, burn guardian, you name it. People (especially newer players) will experiment and try things. You did this, i did this, we have all done this. So be more positive and refrain from flaming newer / worse players.

I know mobas in general have “worse” communities than gw2 and are still more competitive than gw2, but there are many other reasons for this. For example ,mobas are way easier to watch and understand on streams. Also, more frequent balances (although i hear many dota players are angry at valve ATM). Additionally, people can easily know when they do well and what they can do better. They can look at their kill death ratio and be reasonably happy. This doesnt work in guild wars 2. It is a game about holding nodes, don’t blame them for camping one. Would you flame someone for playing on their lane in LoL or Dota? Exactly.

Immensus.9732:

The only MMO out there with fun combat that cant get people interested in pvp. thats just sad. on a general note i do believe that this comes down to the fact of how badly you are getting rewarded in this game for doing pretty much anything especially PvP, gw2 has become nothing more than playing Dress up online.

If it was the only MMo out there with fun combat: why leave? It do not make sense. The important word is Fun. Fun is risk-reward: not Reward-Fun and you already said that.

Challenge is what make Fun. If you are only reward with Fun and not have risk or less risk: where is the challenge? Blu play thief profession: do you see why? Do it make sense now?

Thief Profession= No Effort-No Hard Work-No Challenge= Boring= No Fun.

Let me ask you something: do you think getting everything free with no hard work will make you happy?

In the beginning it might look like it but after: the happiness is gone.

It is same reasons for many thieves players who left this game and still leaving: they get everything and more everything and is happy about it in the beginning but after: they get bored and their happiness is gone.

Happiness and not about having but about taking risk, making effort and be reward for it.

This is what happen when you design a profession with reward only instead of challenge.

Challenge: Risk-Reward last a long time but reward only die fast.

Again, I am not Surprise that Blu is leaving.

But you are correct with the other thing you say.

I liked Blu as shoutcaster, but Heart of Thorns might change PvP to a certain level that Blu will return :P

@DarkSyze.8627: 0/10, too obvious

PVP isn’t doing well because new people arrive.. get kicked all over the map.. and leave.
Usually they leave with curses from the “competitive” players ringing in their ears.

ANET needs to cater to casuals because they are the major demographic. Truthfully, I’ve only just managed to keep my win % at 50 ish this season. I hate logging out feeling like kitten because my Mesmer got creamed by two rangers or a ranger and a thief that see an easy kill they can troll.

Compete all you want but there needs to be a bracket for new people. ( and less than optimal players like me. )

but but guys they bringing to us new game mode called Stronghold which is “Competitive PVE with elements of pvp and wvw”

Duka.5864:

but but guys they bringing to us new game mode called Stronghold which is “Competitive PVE with elements of pvp and wvw”

I don’t care what anyone says. Stronghold was actually kinda fun. I give credit where credit is due.

By The Six.. who thought of that mess? I don’t understand ANET’s predilection for zerging scenarios, ick.

I’m just preparing myself. I know there’s gonna be a wave of new players and returning players with HOT, but Anet hasn’t taken the time to iron out the obvious and game-breaking bugs (immob bug, I’m lookin at you) that have been plaguing the game for years now. Population will increase for a few months, then most likely plummet farther than it has now.

Has anyone given Smite a shot? I think that may be my next stop. /shrug