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Posted by: Chaos Archangel.5071

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Boon to Condition and Condition to Boon conversion has been standardized and its functionality changed. Skills which convert boons and conditions now randomly select from all boons and conditions on the target instead of taking the last applied.

Conversion tables: http://imgur.com/a/kHlU8

Why is this being made RNG? Why not give us more active control instead of “cast it and hope for the best lol”

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Posted by: Phil.8901

Phil.8901

I agree, i don’t like this RNG stuff on conversion.

Better how it’s now

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Posted by: Tim.6450

Tim.6450

This is just stupid, especially with the importance of some boons. Now you at least now what you are going to convert/rip even if the order was not perfect, with the new system you just throw out boon removal and hope you get the right boon.

Anet: removes the skill out of skillfull.

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Posted by: Gryph.8237

Gryph.8237

Yeah a necro needs more rng to its poor repitoire. Random kitten is stupid. kitten can’t control anything now. M

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Posted by: infantrydiv.1620

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Another poor choice along with the movement changes and how imbalanced some of the traits are looking. The patch is shaping up to be a real disaster.

However, in my expert opinion I think Arenanet noticed how successful LoL and Hearthstone are and decided to create a new hybrid: Stronghold (Moba) + Massive RNG (Hearthstone). Esports here we come Kappa

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Posted by: Tim.6450

Tim.6450

Yeah a necro needs more rng to its poor repitoire. Random kitten is stupid. kitten can’t control anything now. M

It’s not just necro (though I admit this one will feel it the hardest with the addition of resistance and every necro removal skill applies conditions as well), thiefs and mesmer are hit hard as well because they have some skills that apply cc or conditions when they remove a boon, so it’s gambling if the secondary ability of your skill is going to work.

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Posted by: Tim.6450

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However, in my expert opinion I think Arenanet noticed how successful LoL and Hearthstone are and decided to create a new hybrid: Stronghold (Moba) + Massive RNG (Hearthstone). Esports here we come Kappa

It’s not that it’s just they want to streamline things, but don’t dare t make a meaning full decision. Boon/condi removal behaved very different from skill to skill, so they want to make sure the user was confused, so they made all the skills the same, but if they want to do that they had to choose an order but the situations and skill are so varied they couldn’t find a good ordering (+ plus giving an order on all skills could discriminate some classes). So they made it rng (which is the worst they could have done in my opinion).

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Posted by: Jekkt.6045

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it’s actually a good change to boon removal and corruption. usually stability is on low priority, now it’s on an equal chance with the other boons.

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Posted by: Phoebe Ascension.8437

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For corrupting stability this is indeed a good case, especially for Necro skills. I remember Corrupt boon, 29/30 times not converting Stability if enemy had more then 5 boons. Not really nice i’d say. Of course if for instance you hate protection, and priority was high and past and isn’t now, that might be a slight nerf. Overall, I wanna play with this update first before i dislike it.

One problem though is there will be more boons in future. 9 will become at least 11. (Quickness and resistance). That means less chance to corrupt stability (or any specific boon) with same skill. That might be problem. Maybe some skill (to be viable) will need cool down reduction or 1 more corruption in the same skill.

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Posted by: Tim.6450

Tim.6450

it’s actually a good change to boon removal and corruption. usually stability is on low priority, now it’s on an equal chance with the other boons.

I suppose for necro’s it’s better looking at it, swiftness and protection were always high in the priority list and focus was alread random so it’s not that bad, but removing 25 stacks with 100% guarantuee is lost as well.

I do love the equal treatments off converted conditions since they all follow corrupt boon which was the strongest one.

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Posted by: Rym.1469

Rym.1469

I’m not entirely sure about Chill to Resistance conversion. Isn’kitten bit too strong boon for it?

I thought Taunt will get that conversion.

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Posted by: MailMail.6534

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I’m not entirely sure about Chill to Resistance conversion. Isn’kitten bit too strong boon for it?

I thought Taunt will get that conversion.

taunt isn’t a condition.

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Posted by: Chaos Archangel.5071

Chaos Archangel.5071

Besides necro & revenant how many other classes/skills convert boons?

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Posted by: Laraley.7695

Laraley.7695

Besides necro f revenant how many other classes/skills convert boons?

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Posted by: Lord Kuru.3685

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Should have just been first in last out: with a change to boon/condi displays that show the correct order that they’re in so players can make informed decisions.

That way skillful play shows up in the form of cover boons and conditions.

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Posted by: MailMail.6534

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Should have just been first in last out: with a change to boon/condi displays that show the correct order that they’re in so players can make informed decisions.

That way skillful play shows up in the form of cover boons and conditions.

+1

But it is worth saying that conditions are simply too prevalent, especially when almost every AA has condis on them.

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