That sPvP is and always will be focused around Capture Nodes and that they do not plan to release any further modes. Is this game pigeon-holed since no healers or trinity?
They have said it, to not expect new modes in the near future.
They have said it, to not expect new modes in the near future.
Thank god I can except new games.
Jesus christ what is this obsession with modes?
If the combat itself doesnt keep you interested, new modes will only have the “release” effect for you, after that you realise new modes dont change the combat that you didnt like in the first place.
Jesus christ what is this obsession with modes?
If the combat itself doesnt keep you interested, new modes will only have the “release” effect for you, after that you realise new modes dont change the combat that you didnt like in the first place.
But combat isn’t necessarily bad once certain issues are dealt with. The node game however, is bad and will always be so.
But combat isn’t necessarily bad once certain issues are dealt with. The node game however, is bad and will always be so.
Would you like to follow your seeming statement of fact with some actual… reasons for why you seem to believe that it is a fact?
But combat isn’t necessarily bad once certain issues are dealt with. The node game however, is bad and will always be so.
Would you like to follow your seeming statement of fact with some actual… reasons for why you seem to believe that it is a fact?
which thing? that the combat is good or that conquest is bad?
I covered the main reason why conquest is bad here, check it out:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/This-game-is-too-hard/first
New modes are a big investment new large interactive/reactionary maps, revamping both tpvp and hot join browsers, and keeping a class balance that works in each. I think it may be something they do in the future, but at least for right now they are having trouble with balance alone.
While new game modes would be great the current issue is the game play not the game mode. The balance right now is horrid, but you have to look at the bigger picture with the addition of torment to warr.thief.mesmer, and necro they are trying to advance these classes so they are less reliant on basic mechanics and bring those that were not being used some use.
The trinity has nothing to do with it look at spirit watch or the boat map if you want to know why we do not have other game modes. Spirit watch is pretty much cap the flag and is not in tourney rotation because they have not balanced for mobility or cc and the boat lv is not in rotation because underwater combat is not balanced.
While I think the way they are doing it is silly whats done is done and the game play will get better over the next few months and hopefully we will have better balance with all the classes used.
They have said it, to not expect new modes in the near future.
Thank god I can except new games.
I’m with ya man.
New modes are a big investment new large interactive/reactionary maps, revamping both tpvp and hot join browsers, and keeping a class balance that works in each. I think it may be something they do in the future, but at least for right now they are having trouble with balance alone.
While new game modes would be great the current issue is the game play not the game mode. The balance right now is horrid, but you have to look at the bigger picture with the addition of torment to warr.thief.mesmer, and necro they are trying to advance these classes so they are less reliant on basic mechanics and bring those that were not being used some use.
The trinity has nothing to do with it look at spirit watch or the boat map if you want to know why we do not have other game modes. Spirit watch is pretty much cap the flag and is not in tourney rotation because they have not balanced for mobility or cc and the boat lv is not in rotation because underwater combat is not balanced.
While I think the way they are doing it is silly whats done is done and the game play will get better over the next few months and hopefully we will have better balance with all the classes used.
I think you couldn’t be any further from the truth. Balance has nothing to do with new game modes. Balance could quite possibly fix itself with introduction of new games modes. No MMO is balanced, ever. This is a copout, and Anet knows so. They are doing everything they can to keep conquest as a mode (i.e. reduced game effects). All I’m saying is don’t expect sPvP to go anywhere in this game. This is not an e-sport game because the actual game mode is horrid. This is a huge problem for me and others since PvP is my end game. Without strong PvP, there is simply no reason to log in.
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Yeah at least I can expect new games lol.
After about 6-8hrs of SPvP you are looking for something else to spice it up… If i had TDM or something else it would spice it up as it is.. meh
I covered the main reason why conquest is bad here, check it out:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/This-game-is-too-hard/first
Wait, so you’re telling me that because people are stupid, ANet is in the wrong? That because people don’t understand something, conquest is bad?
So, if I don’t know how to play Starcraft II, does that make the game or Blizzard bad? Maybe this game is supposed to be hard so that this game can be interesting and incorporate features of esports like, y’know, skill and strategy.
I covered the main reason why conquest is bad here, check it out:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/This-game-is-too-hard/firstWait, so you’re telling me that because people are stupid, ANet is in the wrong? That because people don’t understand something, conquest is bad?
So, if I don’t know how to play Starcraft II, does that make the game or Blizzard bad? Maybe this game is supposed to be hard so that this game can be interesting and incorporate features of esports like, y’know, skill and strategy.
No. That is a troll post. Nobody thinks capture points is hard, in fact, we think it’s too simple and makes a very boring experience. People will only complain about capture points in a public match since they are bad and everyone is farming rank and dailies. Blame Anet for that once again.
They have said it, to not expect new modes in the near future.
Did they really say this?
Wow, I guess at least Wildstar is coming and has arena and capture the flag already in game in beta.
I covered the main reason why conquest is bad here, check it out:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/This-game-is-too-hard/firstWait, so you’re telling me that because people are stupid, ANet is in the wrong? That because people don’t understand something, conquest is bad?
So, if I don’t know how to play Starcraft II, does that make the game or Blizzard bad? Maybe this game is supposed to be hard so that this game can be interesting and incorporate features of esports like, y’know, skill and strategy.
Is this a joke? Look, this is a MMORPG and people who PvP in MMORPGs expect more than just one game type. As a matter of fact, I expect at least 3 different gametypes, and that is not including an arena format. Nobody thinks it is hard, what they think is that it is boring and stale, and promotes the same boring gameplay over and over.
Jesus christ what is this obsession with modes?
If the combat itself doesnt keep you interested, new modes will only have the “release” effect for you, after that you realise new modes dont change the combat that you didnt like in the first place.
Uh, no. Your statement isn’t exactly oozing insight. Grade F. For example a deathmatch or GvG mode would promote tactical group play (that is, most of the team present) much more strongly, versus the more common 1v1/2v2/2v1 (<last one is an inherent flaw of cap node gameplay) encounters in conquest.
The map design shakes things up further. You can’t exactly employ a semi-linear or open field map in conquest, for example.
Don’t even get me started on how objectives influence strategical decisions.
SWTOR has a new patch up on their test Server.
4v4 Death Match Arena’s
Best of 3, Matches are 5 minutes long (before Gas starts coming in)
a Group and Single Player Queue, in the Single Player queue, sides are matched based on Roles
So if one side has 2 Healers, the other side will have 2 Healers as well. If one side is 4 tanks, the other side is 4 Tanks.
Its also got ranking.
I played on the PTS the day they came up, and its VASTLY more fun then anything in this game in terms of Structured PvP (GW2 still has it beat on World PvP, but then again World PvP in SWTOR is so God Awful its about comparable to SPVP in this game)
New modes are a big investment new large interactive/reactionary maps, revamping both tpvp and hot join browsers, and keeping a class balance that works in each. I think it may be something they do in the future, but at least for right now they are having trouble with balance alone.
While new game modes would be great the current issue is the game play not the game mode. The balance right now is horrid, but you have to look at the bigger picture with the addition of torment to warr.thief.mesmer, and necro they are trying to advance these classes so they are less reliant on basic mechanics and bring those that were not being used some use.
The trinity has nothing to do with it look at spirit watch or the boat map if you want to know why we do not have other game modes. Spirit watch is pretty much cap the flag and is not in tourney rotation because they have not balanced for mobility or cc and the boat lv is not in rotation because underwater combat is not balanced.
While I think the way they are doing it is silly whats done is done and the game play will get better over the next few months and hopefully we will have better balance with all the classes used.
I think you couldn’t be any further from the truth. Balance has nothing to do with new game modes. Balance could quite possibly fix itself with introduction of new games modes. No MMO is balanced, ever. This is a copout, and Anet knows so. They are doing everything they can to keep conquest as a mode (i.e. reduced game effects). All I’m saying is don’t expect sPvP to go anywhere in this game. This is not an e-sport game because the actual game mode is horrid. This is a huge problem for me and others since PvP is my end game. Without strong PvP, there is simply no reason to log in.
Listen man I listed the reasons and gave examples of why you were mistaken you can’t just say I am wrong with no evidence to the contrary.
While it may be true that no mmo is completely balance you have to at least hit in between the lines and this isn’t your normal mmo, this is a strategic fighting game or at least was till they made aoe here the top strat.
SWTOR has a new patch up on their test Server.
4v4 Death Match Arena’s
Best of 3, Matches are 5 minutes long (before Gas starts coming in)
a Group and Single Player Queue, in the Single Player queue, sides are matched based on Roles
So if one side has 2 Healers, the other side will have 2 Healers as well. If one side is 4 tanks, the other side is 4 Tanks.
Its also got ranking.
I played on the PTS the day they came up, and its VASTLY more fun then anything in this game in terms of Structured PvP (GW2 still has it beat on World PvP, but then again World PvP in SWTOR is so God Awful its about comparable to SPVP in this game)
Hmmm might have to redownload TOR just to see what has changed.
SWTOR has a new patch up on their test Server.
4v4 Death Match Arena’s
Best of 3, Matches are 5 minutes long (before Gas starts coming in)
a Group and Single Player Queue, in the Single Player queue, sides are matched based on Roles
So if one side has 2 Healers, the other side will have 2 Healers as well. If one side is 4 tanks, the other side is 4 Tanks.
Its also got ranking.
I played on the PTS the day they came up, and its VASTLY more fun then anything in this game in terms of Structured PvP (GW2 still has it beat on World PvP, but then again World PvP in SWTOR is so God Awful its about comparable to SPVP in this game)
What we should all do is just stay away from mmo’s they are all crap gw2 is just be least smelly. We should stick to games like dark souls and push the market in that direction instead of wasting our times on these poor BTL’s. All though it would be cool to bust out my no longer obtainable pvp speeder.
Conquest is fun, just like solo arena is fun (if you ignore the syncers). It is probably the best mode of all. And different maps require different builds and tactics. I think the mode is perfect and should never be changed.
Jesus christ what is this obsession with modes?
If the combat itself doesnt keep you interested, new modes will only have the “release” effect for you, after that you realise new modes dont change the combat that you didnt like in the first place.
Game mods, which are maps and rulesets, surely do affect combat. If the game isn’t about standing in tight spots and running around as quickly as you can to stand in the other tight spots, mobility and AoE suddenly become less valuable, which might make games about burst, avoidance and CC, rather than spamming AoE dots. At least it’s a shift.
Jesus christ what is this obsession with modes?
If the combat itself doesnt keep you interested, new modes will only have the “release” effect for you, after that you realise new modes dont change the combat that you didnt like in the first place.
It makes it kitten poor for a supposedly PVP game.
No open world pvp.
Two game modes…zerg vs zerg – World vs World.#
or
Team Domination.
Where as a true pvp game would have multiple modes and open world pvp.
Games called Guild wars…LOL you can’t do anything remotely like Guild vs Guild.
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