Guild Wars 2

I want it removed mostly for an enjoyment reason. It is not okay to ruin the game mode because someone wanted to play extrememly tanky. I am not talking about ESL or anything. I am talking about regular games played by new players or advanced players who wants to play casually. Those players are needed for an healthy game: Minstrel amulet will only be good at pushing them out.

I am a somewhat high mmr player. Personnally, it just sucks the fun out of the game when some guy decided by selecting one amulet that they will not die.

Just imagine this new guy who is not a complete newbie to the genre. He (or she) thought that maybe he could try out this game he heard about called Guild Wars 2. He sees a couple of minstrels users after a few games of climbing up the MMR, is bored to death and just uninstall. Minstrel is a very dangerous amulet. Well, not to your mesmer, revenant, elementalist… Minstrel is dangerous to the players.

I edited my message to pass a more constructive point. Yes, I was kittened off because I just played against one. We did not lose, but it was boring. And, what do we do about boring games?…

Alekt.5803:

It’s just not fun to fight undying Druids that a 8 year old child could play.

I bet if you focus him he won’t quite be so unkillable.

I think op is talking about me.
Lol

Should probably remove this amulet and tone down druid blinds.

Just wait till the boon duration actually works

Caine.8204:

Alekt.5803:

It’s just not fun to fight undying Druids that a 8 year old child could play.

I bet if you focus him he won’t quite be so unkillable.

Do i need to find and post the yesterdays outliving double moa from helseth and co. or can you just trust me and everyone else that druid is broken op 1v2-3 ?

Caine.8204:

Alekt.5803:

It’s just not fun to fight undying Druids that a 8 year old child could play.

I bet if you focus him he won’t quite be so unkillable.

Signet of Stone, Protect me, evade spam, protection spam, weakness spam try again please.

Looks like Ranger mains need to L2P more than telling people to L2P vs. Rangers,

they should remove the toughness and up the vitality if anything though I’m not gonna lie ive been waiting for an amulet like this for a while. they should just add zealots already and maybe not so many tank oriented healing amulets.

Alekt.5803:

It’s just not fun to fight undying Druids that a 8 year old child could play.

Also, nothing is going to change even if they remove minstrel. They can just go back to clerics and they will be the same. Try again.

Hint: The problem is the class, not the amulet.

Because let’s face it, the same 8 year old can play it logic can apply to ANY ranger build because it’s just an easy class in PvP no matter what.

TBH the problem (one of them at least) with druids is their Blinding Ashes 3.0

Me thinks if people using Minstrels changed to Cleric you wouldn’t like that much more.

Clerics is way better for 1 vs 1s giving more sustain and double the damage, Minstrels only advantage is better burst survival and the boon duration once it actually works.

Lingering Light + Minstrel is over the top. and I main druid.

glaphen.5230:

Clerics is way better for 1 vs 1s giving more sustain and double the damage, Minstrels only advantage is better burst survival and the boon duration once it actually works.

no, minstrel + LL allows us to bunker against 2-3 good players.

mistsim.2748:

Lingering Light + Minstrel is over the top. and I main druid.

glaphen.5230:

Clerics is way better for 1 vs 1s giving more sustain and double the damage, Minstrels only advantage is better burst survival and the boon duration once it actually works.

no, minstrel + LL allows us to bunker against 2-3 good players.

Minstrel gives 6k extra health but lowers your healing a bit and makes you hit like a wet noodle, well Rangers have pet advantage there at least. If an extra 6k health that doesn’t increase regen is keeping you alive then they don’t have any damage dealers in that 2-3.

who cares about how hard u hit? it has 1k HP, 1250 with healing runes. it requires an immense amount of CC to bring it down, but even then due to the blind spam, it’s difficult.

mistsim.2748:

who cares about how hard u hit? it has 1k HP, 1250 with healing runes. it requires an immense amount of CC to bring it down, but even then due to the blind spam, it’s difficult.

So it’s not a Minstel problem it’s a Druid problem with being able to be too good at bunker.

Nerf druid. Lol. bottom tier class and suddenly gives people a hard time, everyone starts losing their minds.

StickerHappy.8052:

Nerf druid. Lol. bottom tier class and suddenly gives people a hard time, everyone starts losing their minds.

Druid is only bottom tier if you don’t use a staff and don’t know how to aim the basic attack with the skill of your average Ranger player.

glaphen.5230:

StickerHappy.8052:

Nerf druid. Lol. bottom tier class and suddenly gives people a hard time, everyone starts losing their minds.

Druid is only bottom tier if you don’t use a staff and don’t know how to aim the basic attack with the skill of your average Ranger player.

You exactly proved my point. Ranger was bottom tier since forever after the spirit meta, and dd eles, guards, engies and thieves are always almost present.

Now Druid gives you a hard time, and you cry? Tough luck then.

StickerHappy.8052:

glaphen.5230:

StickerHappy.8052:

Nerf druid. Lol. bottom tier class and suddenly gives people a hard time, everyone starts losing their minds.

Druid is only bottom tier if you don’t use a staff and don’t know how to aim the basic attack with the skill of your average Ranger player.

You exactly proved my point. Ranger was bottom tier since forever after the spirit meta, and dd eles, guards, engies and thieves are always almost present.

Now Druid gives you a hard time, and you cry? Tough luck then.

No it was always bottom tier on your average Ranger player, Tempest is a better bunker ATM though anyways.

glaphen.5230:

StickerHappy.8052:

glaphen.5230:

StickerHappy.8052:

Nerf druid. Lol. bottom tier class and suddenly gives people a hard time, everyone starts losing their minds.

Druid is only bottom tier if you don’t use a staff and don’t know how to aim the basic attack with the skill of your average Ranger player.

You exactly proved my point. Ranger was bottom tier since forever after the spirit meta, and dd eles, guards, engies and thieves are always almost present.

Now Druid gives you a hard time, and you cry? Tough luck then.

No it was always bottom tier on your average Ranger player, Tempest is a better bunker ATM though anyways.

Average ranger player? How many rangers do you see in WTS? ESL?

StickerHappy.8052:

glaphen.5230:

StickerHappy.8052:

glaphen.5230:

StickerHappy.8052:

Nerf druid. Lol. bottom tier class and suddenly gives people a hard time, everyone starts losing their minds.

Druid is only bottom tier if you don’t use a staff and don’t know how to aim the basic attack with the skill of your average Ranger player.

You exactly proved my point. Ranger was bottom tier since forever after the spirit meta, and dd eles, guards, engies and thieves are always almost present.

Now Druid gives you a hard time, and you cry? Tough luck then.

No it was always bottom tier on your average Ranger player, Tempest is a better bunker ATM though anyways.

Average ranger player? How many rangers do you see in WTS? ESL?

When did I say top tier.

glaphen.5230:

StickerHappy.8052:

glaphen.5230:

StickerHappy.8052:

glaphen.5230:

StickerHappy.8052:

Nerf druid. Lol. bottom tier class and suddenly gives people a hard time, everyone starts losing their minds.

Druid is only bottom tier if you don’t use a staff and don’t know how to aim the basic attack with the skill of your average Ranger player.

You exactly proved my point. Ranger was bottom tier since forever after the spirit meta, and dd eles, guards, engies and thieves are always almost present.

Now Druid gives you a hard time, and you cry? Tough luck then.

No it was always bottom tier on your average Ranger player, Tempest is a better bunker ATM though anyways.

Average ranger player? How many rangers do you see in WTS? ESL?

When did I say top tier.

glaphen.5230:

StickerHappy.8052:

glaphen.5230:

StickerHappy.8052:

Nerf druid. Lol. bottom tier class and suddenly gives people a hard time, everyone starts losing their minds.

Druid is only bottom tier if you don’t use a staff and don’t know how to aim the basic attack with the skill of your average Ranger player.

You exactly proved my point. Ranger was bottom tier since forever after the spirit meta, and dd eles, guards, engies and thieves are always almost present.

Now Druid gives you a hard time, and you cry? Tough luck then.

No it was always bottom tier on your average Ranger player, Tempest is a better bunker ATM though anyways.

So basically you are saying on a super ranger player it is >bottom tier = top tier.

the only blind rangers have are on a pet Raven and Lingering light on the druid if it heals a target with a orb the next attack that goes out blinds , so if you see orbs floating around a target back away for 2seconds untill it misses or don’t go on the offensive when the druid is going through its healing rotations , its still all about burst just at the right time.

ether way if a ranger tanks up with evades and uses lingering light +HaO with guard is the only way to obtain so many boons on a up time means it will do No damage at all , so just ignore it and burst down squishy players untill the druid is overpowered.

simple realy , unlike trying to tank out a Necro from his shroud to stop him from damaging others , the druid becomes a non-damage dealer while in his CAS form and recovers Burst damage+supports so don’t go on the hard offensive when the druid is ready to recover it.

CC the druid don’t try and kill it while its in CAS form , use that as a distraction and kill / hard pressure other players . Naturaly players will go find a guardian / warroir or druid for the extra support dragging themselfs into 300 yards of that player meaning at this point AOE HARD CC the DRUID and the rest will follow.

bait out the CAS and force the druid to pop it when its needed for team support, this leaves the druid After the healing rotations Vunrable to any kind of damage as he used his heals to support on point due to healing spring + astral grace as above leaves him open to HARD AOES and stuns.

StickerHappy.8052:

glaphen.5230:

StickerHappy.8052:

glaphen.5230:

StickerHappy.8052:

glaphen.5230:

StickerHappy.8052:

Nerf druid. Lol. bottom tier class and suddenly gives people a hard time, everyone starts losing their minds.

Druid is only bottom tier if you don’t use a staff and don’t know how to aim the basic attack with the skill of your average Ranger player.

You exactly proved my point. Ranger was bottom tier since forever after the spirit meta, and dd eles, guards, engies and thieves are always almost present.

Now Druid gives you a hard time, and you cry? Tough luck then.

No it was always bottom tier on your average Ranger player, Tempest is a better bunker ATM though anyways.

Average ranger player? How many rangers do you see in WTS? ESL?

When did I say top tier.

glaphen.5230:

StickerHappy.8052:

glaphen.5230:

StickerHappy.8052:

Nerf druid. Lol. bottom tier class and suddenly gives people a hard time, everyone starts losing their minds.

Druid is only bottom tier if you don’t use a staff and don’t know how to aim the basic attack with the skill of your average Ranger player.

You exactly proved my point. Ranger was bottom tier since forever after the spirit meta, and dd eles, guards, engies and thieves are always almost present.

Now Druid gives you a hard time, and you cry? Tough luck then.

No it was always bottom tier on your average Ranger player, Tempest is a better bunker ATM though anyways.

So basically you are saying on a super ranger player it is >bottom tier = top tier.

Since when are there only 2 tiers.

Zenos Osgorma.2936:

the only blind rangers have are on a pet Raven and Lingering light on the druid if it heals a target with a orb the next attack that goes out blinds , so if you see orbs floating around a target back away for 2seconds untill it misses or don’t go on the offensive when the druid is going through its healing rotations , its still all about burst just at the right time.

ether way if a ranger tanks up with evades and uses lingering light +HaO with guard is the only way to obtain so many boons on a up time means it will do No damage at all , so just ignore it and burst down squishy players untill the druid is overpowered.

simple realy , unlike trying to tank out a Necro from his shroud to stop him from damaging others , the druid becomes a non-damage dealer while in his CAS form and recovers Burst damage+supports so don’t go on the hard offensive when the druid is ready to recover it.

CC the druid don’t try and kill it while its in CAS form , use that as a distraction and kill / hard pressure other players . Naturaly players will go find a guardian / warroir or druid for the extra support dragging themselfs into 300 yards of that player meaning at this point AOE HARD CC the DRUID and the rest will follow.

Tons of other ways to heal pet other than orb, basic attack through the pet counts as a heal. Blind spam is op but Tempest does it better with Shocking Aura stun spam at faster rate.

glaphen.5230:

StickerHappy.8052:

glaphen.5230:

StickerHappy.8052:

glaphen.5230:

StickerHappy.8052:

glaphen.5230:

StickerHappy.8052:

Nerf druid. Lol. bottom tier class and suddenly gives people a hard time, everyone starts losing their minds.

Druid is only bottom tier if you don’t use a staff and don’t know how to aim the basic attack with the skill of your average Ranger player.

You exactly proved my point. Ranger was bottom tier since forever after the spirit meta, and dd eles, guards, engies and thieves are always almost present.

Now Druid gives you a hard time, and you cry? Tough luck then.

No it was always bottom tier on your average Ranger player, Tempest is a better bunker ATM though anyways.

Average ranger player? How many rangers do you see in WTS? ESL?

When did I say top tier.

glaphen.5230:

StickerHappy.8052:

glaphen.5230:

StickerHappy.8052:

Nerf druid. Lol. bottom tier class and suddenly gives people a hard time, everyone starts losing their minds.

Druid is only bottom tier if you don’t use a staff and don’t know how to aim the basic attack with the skill of your average Ranger player.

You exactly proved my point. Ranger was bottom tier since forever after the spirit meta, and dd eles, guards, engies and thieves are always almost present.

Now Druid gives you a hard time, and you cry? Tough luck then.

No it was always bottom tier on your average Ranger player, Tempest is a better bunker ATM though anyways.

So basically you are saying on a super ranger player it is >bottom tier = top tier.

Since when are there only 2 tiers.

Zenos Osgorma.2936:

the only blind rangers have are on a pet Raven and Lingering light on the druid if it heals a target with a orb the next attack that goes out blinds , so if you see orbs floating around a target back away for 2seconds untill it misses or don’t go on the offensive when the druid is going through its healing rotations , its still all about burst just at the right time.

ether way if a ranger tanks up with evades and uses lingering light +HaO with guard is the only way to obtain so many boons on a up time means it will do No damage at all , so just ignore it and burst down squishy players untill the druid is overpowered.

simple realy , unlike trying to tank out a Necro from his shroud to stop him from damaging others , the druid becomes a non-damage dealer while in his CAS form and recovers Burst damage+supports so don’t go on the hard offensive when the druid is ready to recover it.

CC the druid don’t try and kill it while its in CAS form , use that as a distraction and kill / hard pressure other players . Naturaly players will go find a guardian / warroir or druid for the extra support dragging themselfs into 300 yards of that player meaning at this point AOE HARD CC the DRUID and the rest will follow.

Tons of other ways to heal pet other than orb, basic attack through the pet counts as a heal. Blind spam is op but Tempest does it better with Shocking Aura stun spam at faster rate.

didn’t even mention healing of pets , the lingering light grants a blind on next heal with a ICD of 1second so for the wisps duration , it causes blind for the targets healed by it, so the counter is simply Back away. ( im not in game right now But the Wikis on google are all Wrong! atm so i;d not use them as Credible sources of information)

#lingering light turns staff 2 into a defence skill that allows more effective AS generation if you stay still taking the blinds from the pet , Deny both blinds and AF generation by moving away.

Zenos Osgorma.2936:

glaphen.5230:

StickerHappy.8052:

glaphen.5230:

StickerHappy.8052:

glaphen.5230:

StickerHappy.8052:

glaphen.5230:

StickerHappy.8052:

Nerf druid. Lol. bottom tier class and suddenly gives people a hard time, everyone starts losing their minds.

Druid is only bottom tier if you don’t use a staff and don’t know how to aim the basic attack with the skill of your average Ranger player.

You exactly proved my point. Ranger was bottom tier since forever after the spirit meta, and dd eles, guards, engies and thieves are always almost present.

Now Druid gives you a hard time, and you cry? Tough luck then.

No it was always bottom tier on your average Ranger player, Tempest is a better bunker ATM though anyways.

Average ranger player? How many rangers do you see in WTS? ESL?

When did I say top tier.

glaphen.5230:

StickerHappy.8052:

glaphen.5230:

StickerHappy.8052:

Nerf druid. Lol. bottom tier class and suddenly gives people a hard time, everyone starts losing their minds.

Druid is only bottom tier if you don’t use a staff and don’t know how to aim the basic attack with the skill of your average Ranger player.

You exactly proved my point. Ranger was bottom tier since forever after the spirit meta, and dd eles, guards, engies and thieves are always almost present.

Now Druid gives you a hard time, and you cry? Tough luck then.

No it was always bottom tier on your average Ranger player, Tempest is a better bunker ATM though anyways.

So basically you are saying on a super ranger player it is >bottom tier = top tier.

Since when are there only 2 tiers.

Zenos Osgorma.2936:

the only blind rangers have are on a pet Raven and Lingering light on the druid if it heals a target with a orb the next attack that goes out blinds , so if you see orbs floating around a target back away for 2seconds untill it misses or don’t go on the offensive when the druid is going through its healing rotations , its still all about burst just at the right time.

ether way if a ranger tanks up with evades and uses lingering light +HaO with guard is the only way to obtain so many boons on a up time means it will do No damage at all , so just ignore it and burst down squishy players untill the druid is overpowered.

simple realy , unlike trying to tank out a Necro from his shroud to stop him from damaging others , the druid becomes a non-damage dealer while in his CAS form and recovers Burst damage+supports so don’t go on the hard offensive when the druid is ready to recover it.

CC the druid don’t try and kill it while its in CAS form , use that as a distraction and kill / hard pressure other players . Naturaly players will go find a guardian / warroir or druid for the extra support dragging themselfs into 300 yards of that player meaning at this point AOE HARD CC the DRUID and the rest will follow.

Tons of other ways to heal pet other than orb, basic attack through the pet counts as a heal. Blind spam is op but Tempest does it better with Shocking Aura stun spam at faster rate.

didn’t even mention healing of pets , the lingering light grants a blind on next heal with a ICD of 1second so for the wisps duration , it causes blind for the targets healed by it, so the counter is simply Back away. ( im not in game right now But the Wikis on google are all Wrong! atm so i;d not use them as Credible sources of information)

#lingering light turns staff 2 into a defence skill that allows more effective AS generation if you stay still taking the blinds from the pet , Deny both blinds and AF generation by moving away.

And how is that trait triggered, heals, don’t need the orb when you can basic attack to get it just as easily.

glaphen.5230:

Zenos Osgorma.2936:

glaphen.5230:

StickerHappy.8052:

glaphen.5230:

StickerHappy.8052:

glaphen.5230:

StickerHappy.8052:

glaphen.5230:

StickerHappy.8052:

Nerf druid. Lol. bottom tier class and suddenly gives people a hard time, everyone starts losing their minds.

Druid is only bottom tier if you don’t use a staff and don’t know how to aim the basic attack with the skill of your average Ranger player.

You exactly proved my point. Ranger was bottom tier since forever after the spirit meta, and dd eles, guards, engies and thieves are always almost present.

Now Druid gives you a hard time, and you cry? Tough luck then.

No it was always bottom tier on your average Ranger player, Tempest is a better bunker ATM though anyways.

Average ranger player? How many rangers do you see in WTS? ESL?

When did I say top tier.

glaphen.5230:

StickerHappy.8052:

glaphen.5230:

StickerHappy.8052:

Nerf druid. Lol. bottom tier class and suddenly gives people a hard time, everyone starts losing their minds.

Druid is only bottom tier if you don’t use a staff and don’t know how to aim the basic attack with the skill of your average Ranger player.

You exactly proved my point. Ranger was bottom tier since forever after the spirit meta, and dd eles, guards, engies and thieves are always almost present.

Now Druid gives you a hard time, and you cry? Tough luck then.

No it was always bottom tier on your average Ranger player, Tempest is a better bunker ATM though anyways.

So basically you are saying on a super ranger player it is >bottom tier = top tier.

Since when are there only 2 tiers.

Zenos Osgorma.2936:

the only blind rangers have are on a pet Raven and Lingering light on the druid if it heals a target with a orb the next attack that goes out blinds , so if you see orbs floating around a target back away for 2seconds untill it misses or don’t go on the offensive when the druid is going through its healing rotations , its still all about burst just at the right time.

ether way if a ranger tanks up with evades and uses lingering light +HaO with guard is the only way to obtain so many boons on a up time means it will do No damage at all , so just ignore it and burst down squishy players untill the druid is overpowered.

simple realy , unlike trying to tank out a Necro from his shroud to stop him from damaging others , the druid becomes a non-damage dealer while in his CAS form and recovers Burst damage+supports so don’t go on the hard offensive when the druid is ready to recover it.

CC the druid don’t try and kill it while its in CAS form , use that as a distraction and kill / hard pressure other players . Naturaly players will go find a guardian / warroir or druid for the extra support dragging themselfs into 300 yards of that player meaning at this point AOE HARD CC the DRUID and the rest will follow.

Tons of other ways to heal pet other than orb, basic attack through the pet counts as a heal. Blind spam is op but Tempest does it better with Shocking Aura stun spam at faster rate.

didn’t even mention healing of pets , the lingering light grants a blind on next heal with a ICD of 1second so for the wisps duration , it causes blind for the targets healed by it, so the counter is simply Back away. ( im not in game right now But the Wikis on google are all Wrong! atm so i;d not use them as Credible sources of information)

#lingering light turns staff 2 into a defence skill that allows more effective AS generation if you stay still taking the blinds from the pet , Deny both blinds and AF generation by moving away.

And how is that trait triggered, heals, don’t need the orb when you can basic attack to get it just as easily.

obvoiusly you don’t need the orb to trigger it and since the blinds are applied after the heal on an ally , it won’t matter if staff 1 heals or not , moving away reduces the amount of healing applications by the ORB on you healing the targets around you.

so now you’d only content with a moving pet which needs to be targeted by a staff 1 ground target at a much less Rate than if you’d stand still allowing you to be Perma Blinded.

and if the staff 1 is targeting the pet and not you , you don’t take damage as its being aimed else where. look at the bigger picture.

Zenos Osgorma.2936:

glaphen.5230:

Zenos Osgorma.2936:

glaphen.5230:

StickerHappy.8052:

glaphen.5230:

StickerHappy.8052:

glaphen.5230:

StickerHappy.8052:

glaphen.5230:

StickerHappy.8052:

Nerf druid. Lol. bottom tier class and suddenly gives people a hard time, everyone starts losing their minds.

Druid is only bottom tier if you don’t use a staff and don’t know how to aim the basic attack with the skill of your average Ranger player.

You exactly proved my point. Ranger was bottom tier since forever after the spirit meta, and dd eles, guards, engies and thieves are always almost present.

Now Druid gives you a hard time, and you cry? Tough luck then.

No it was always bottom tier on your average Ranger player, Tempest is a better bunker ATM though anyways.

Average ranger player? How many rangers do you see in WTS? ESL?

When did I say top tier.

glaphen.5230:

StickerHappy.8052:

glaphen.5230:

StickerHappy.8052:

Nerf druid. Lol. bottom tier class and suddenly gives people a hard time, everyone starts losing their minds.

Druid is only bottom tier if you don’t use a staff and don’t know how to aim the basic attack with the skill of your average Ranger player.

You exactly proved my point. Ranger was bottom tier since forever after the spirit meta, and dd eles, guards, engies and thieves are always almost present.

Now Druid gives you a hard time, and you cry? Tough luck then.

No it was always bottom tier on your average Ranger player, Tempest is a better bunker ATM though anyways.

So basically you are saying on a super ranger player it is >bottom tier = top tier.

Since when are there only 2 tiers.

Zenos Osgorma.2936:

the only blind rangers have are on a pet Raven and Lingering light on the druid if it heals a target with a orb the next attack that goes out blinds , so if you see orbs floating around a target back away for 2seconds untill it misses or don’t go on the offensive when the druid is going through its healing rotations , its still all about burst just at the right time.

ether way if a ranger tanks up with evades and uses lingering light +HaO with guard is the only way to obtain so many boons on a up time means it will do No damage at all , so just ignore it and burst down squishy players untill the druid is overpowered.

simple realy , unlike trying to tank out a Necro from his shroud to stop him from damaging others , the druid becomes a non-damage dealer while in his CAS form and recovers Burst damage+supports so don’t go on the hard offensive when the druid is ready to recover it.

CC the druid don’t try and kill it while its in CAS form , use that as a distraction and kill / hard pressure other players . Naturaly players will go find a guardian / warroir or druid for the extra support dragging themselfs into 300 yards of that player meaning at this point AOE HARD CC the DRUID and the rest will follow.

Tons of other ways to heal pet other than orb, basic attack through the pet counts as a heal. Blind spam is op but Tempest does it better with Shocking Aura stun spam at faster rate.

didn’t even mention healing of pets , the lingering light grants a blind on next heal with a ICD of 1second so for the wisps duration , it causes blind for the targets healed by it, so the counter is simply Back away. ( im not in game right now But the Wikis on google are all Wrong! atm so i;d not use them as Credible sources of information)

#lingering light turns staff 2 into a defence skill that allows more effective AS generation if you stay still taking the blinds from the pet , Deny both blinds and AF generation by moving away.

And how is that trait triggered, heals, don’t need the orb when you can basic attack to get it just as easily.

obvoiusly you don’t need the orb to trigger it and since the blinds are applied after the heal on an ally , it won’t matter if staff 1 heals or not , moving away reduces the amount of healing applications by the ORB on you healing the targets around you.

so now you’d only content with a moving pet which needs to be targeted by a staff 1 ground target at a much less Rate than if you’d stand still allowing you to be Perma Blinded.

and if the staff 1 is targeting the pet and not you , you don’t take damage as its being aimed else where. look at the bigger picture.

Blind has a 3 second cooldown, aiming the beam between the enemy and pet isn’t hard in the slightest and gives the most Astral Force of anything. Orb heal has nearly the same duration as cooldown and still orbits the enemy if he runs.

This amulet would maybe help Revenants trying to go for support, but not worth a trade-off. Just remove it and nerf Lingering Light.

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Nerf druid. Lol. bottom tier class and suddenly gives people a hard time, everyone starts losing their minds.

Druid is only bottom tier if you don’t use a staff and don’t know how to aim the basic attack with the skill of your average Ranger player.

You exactly proved my point. Ranger was bottom tier since forever after the spirit meta, and dd eles, guards, engies and thieves are always almost present.

Now Druid gives you a hard time, and you cry? Tough luck then.

No it was always bottom tier on your average Ranger player, Tempest is a better bunker ATM though anyways.

Average ranger player? How many rangers do you see in WTS? ESL?

When did I say top tier.

glaphen.5230:

StickerHappy.8052:

glaphen.5230:

StickerHappy.8052:

Nerf druid. Lol. bottom tier class and suddenly gives people a hard time, everyone starts losing their minds.

Druid is only bottom tier if you don’t use a staff and don’t know how to aim the basic attack with the skill of your average Ranger player.

You exactly proved my point. Ranger was bottom tier since forever after the spirit meta, and dd eles, guards, engies and thieves are always almost present.

Now Druid gives you a hard time, and you cry? Tough luck then.

No it was always bottom tier on your average Ranger player, Tempest is a better bunker ATM though anyways.

So basically you are saying on a super ranger player it is >bottom tier = top tier.

Since when are there only 2 tiers.

Zenos Osgorma.2936:

the only blind rangers have are on a pet Raven and Lingering light on the druid if it heals a target with a orb the next attack that goes out blinds , so if you see orbs floating around a target back away for 2seconds untill it misses or don’t go on the offensive when the druid is going through its healing rotations , its still all about burst just at the right time.

ether way if a ranger tanks up with evades and uses lingering light +HaO with guard is the only way to obtain so many boons on a up time means it will do No damage at all , so just ignore it and burst down squishy players untill the druid is overpowered.

simple realy , unlike trying to tank out a Necro from his shroud to stop him from damaging others , the druid becomes a non-damage dealer while in his CAS form and recovers Burst damage+supports so don’t go on the hard offensive when the druid is ready to recover it.

CC the druid don’t try and kill it while its in CAS form , use that as a distraction and kill / hard pressure other players . Naturaly players will go find a guardian / warroir or druid for the extra support dragging themselfs into 300 yards of that player meaning at this point AOE HARD CC the DRUID and the rest will follow.

Tons of other ways to heal pet other than orb, basic attack through the pet counts as a heal. Blind spam is op but Tempest does it better with Shocking Aura stun spam at faster rate.

didn’t even mention healing of pets , the lingering light grants a blind on next heal with a ICD of 1second so for the wisps duration , it causes blind for the targets healed by it, so the counter is simply Back away. ( im not in game right now But the Wikis on google are all Wrong! atm so i;d not use them as Credible sources of information)

#lingering light turns staff 2 into a defence skill that allows more effective AS generation if you stay still taking the blinds from the pet , Deny both blinds and AF generation by moving away.

And how is that trait triggered, heals, don’t need the orb when you can basic attack to get it just as easily.

obvoiusly you don’t need the orb to trigger it and since the blinds are applied after the heal on an ally , it won’t matter if staff 1 heals or not , moving away reduces the amount of healing applications by the ORB on you healing the targets around you.

so now you’d only content with a moving pet which needs to be targeted by a staff 1 ground target at a much less Rate than if you’d stand still allowing you to be Perma Blinded.

and if the staff 1 is targeting the pet and not you , you don’t take damage as its being aimed else where. look at the bigger picture.

Blind has a 3 second cooldown, aiming the beam between the enemy and pet isn’t hard in the slightest and gives the most Astral Force of anything. Orb heal has nearly the same duration as cooldown and still orbits the enemy if he runs.

if they are standing still yes its easy but if the target is moving you have to get behind the pet and chase which may put you in a Dangerous postion and if the target is running towards you , the pet is now behind the target , so now how can that beam heal the pet i say.

there is somthing you learn as a high tier ranger that is postioning is important but not as important as the suroundings.

Druid really isnt overpowered at the moment, people are just kittened and have no clue how to deal with them. 1 stability and 0 stunbreaks = try to actually cc before blowing all ur cooldowns like a solo q hero

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glaphen.5230:

StickerHappy.8052:

Nerf druid. Lol. bottom tier class and suddenly gives people a hard time, everyone starts losing their minds.

Druid is only bottom tier if you don’t use a staff and don’t know how to aim the basic attack with the skill of your average Ranger player.

You exactly proved my point. Ranger was bottom tier since forever after the spirit meta, and dd eles, guards, engies and thieves are always almost present.

Now Druid gives you a hard time, and you cry? Tough luck then.

No it was always bottom tier on your average Ranger player, Tempest is a better bunker ATM though anyways.

Average ranger player? How many rangers do you see in WTS? ESL?

When did I say top tier.

glaphen.5230:

StickerHappy.8052:

glaphen.5230:

StickerHappy.8052:

Nerf druid. Lol. bottom tier class and suddenly gives people a hard time, everyone starts losing their minds.

Druid is only bottom tier if you don’t use a staff and don’t know how to aim the basic attack with the skill of your average Ranger player.

You exactly proved my point. Ranger was bottom tier since forever after the spirit meta, and dd eles, guards, engies and thieves are always almost present.

Now Druid gives you a hard time, and you cry? Tough luck then.

No it was always bottom tier on your average Ranger player, Tempest is a better bunker ATM though anyways.

So basically you are saying on a super ranger player it is >bottom tier = top tier.

Since when are there only 2 tiers.

Zenos Osgorma.2936:

the only blind rangers have are on a pet Raven and Lingering light on the druid if it heals a target with a orb the next attack that goes out blinds , so if you see orbs floating around a target back away for 2seconds untill it misses or don’t go on the offensive when the druid is going through its healing rotations , its still all about burst just at the right time.

ether way if a ranger tanks up with evades and uses lingering light +HaO with guard is the only way to obtain so many boons on a up time means it will do No damage at all , so just ignore it and burst down squishy players untill the druid is overpowered.

simple realy , unlike trying to tank out a Necro from his shroud to stop him from damaging others , the druid becomes a non-damage dealer while in his CAS form and recovers Burst damage+supports so don’t go on the hard offensive when the druid is ready to recover it.

CC the druid don’t try and kill it while its in CAS form , use that as a distraction and kill / hard pressure other players . Naturaly players will go find a guardian / warroir or druid for the extra support dragging themselfs into 300 yards of that player meaning at this point AOE HARD CC the DRUID and the rest will follow.

Tons of other ways to heal pet other than orb, basic attack through the pet counts as a heal. Blind spam is op but Tempest does it better with Shocking Aura stun spam at faster rate.

didn’t even mention healing of pets , the lingering light grants a blind on next heal with a ICD of 1second so for the wisps duration , it causes blind for the targets healed by it, so the counter is simply Back away. ( im not in game right now But the Wikis on google are all Wrong! atm so i;d not use them as Credible sources of information)

#lingering light turns staff 2 into a defence skill that allows more effective AS generation if you stay still taking the blinds from the pet , Deny both blinds and AF generation by moving away.

And how is that trait triggered, heals, don’t need the orb when you can basic attack to get it just as easily.

obvoiusly you don’t need the orb to trigger it and since the blinds are applied after the heal on an ally , it won’t matter if staff 1 heals or not , moving away reduces the amount of healing applications by the ORB on you healing the targets around you.

so now you’d only content with a moving pet which needs to be targeted by a staff 1 ground target at a much less Rate than if you’d stand still allowing you to be Perma Blinded.

and if the staff 1 is targeting the pet and not you , you don’t take damage as its being aimed else where. look at the bigger picture.

Blind has a 3 second cooldown, aiming the beam between the enemy and pet isn’t hard in the slightest and gives the most Astral Force of anything. Orb heal has nearly the same duration as cooldown and still orbits the enemy if he runs.

if they are standing still yes its easy but if the target is moving you have to get behind the pet and chase which may put you in a Dangerous postion and if the target is running towards you , the pet is now behind the target , so now how can that beam heal the pet i say.

there is somthing you learn as a high tier ranger that is postioning is important but not as important as the suroundings.

F3, F1, this is why I say Rangers are bottom tier on the average Ranger.

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Nerf druid. Lol. bottom tier class and suddenly gives people a hard time, everyone starts losing their minds.

Druid is only bottom tier if you don’t use a staff and don’t know how to aim the basic attack with the skill of your average Ranger player.

You exactly proved my point. Ranger was bottom tier since forever after the spirit meta, and dd eles, guards, engies and thieves are always almost present.

Now Druid gives you a hard time, and you cry? Tough luck then.

No it was always bottom tier on your average Ranger player, Tempest is a better bunker ATM though anyways.

Average ranger player? How many rangers do you see in WTS? ESL?

When did I say top tier.

glaphen.5230:

StickerHappy.8052:

glaphen.5230:

StickerHappy.8052:

Nerf druid. Lol. bottom tier class and suddenly gives people a hard time, everyone starts losing their minds.

Druid is only bottom tier if you don’t use a staff and don’t know how to aim the basic attack with the skill of your average Ranger player.

You exactly proved my point. Ranger was bottom tier since forever after the spirit meta, and dd eles, guards, engies and thieves are always almost present.

Now Druid gives you a hard time, and you cry? Tough luck then.

No it was always bottom tier on your average Ranger player, Tempest is a better bunker ATM though anyways.

So basically you are saying on a super ranger player it is >bottom tier = top tier.

Since when are there only 2 tiers.

Zenos Osgorma.2936:

the only blind rangers have are on a pet Raven and Lingering light on the druid if it heals a target with a orb the next attack that goes out blinds , so if you see orbs floating around a target back away for 2seconds untill it misses or don’t go on the offensive when the druid is going through its healing rotations , its still all about burst just at the right time.

ether way if a ranger tanks up with evades and uses lingering light +HaO with guard is the only way to obtain so many boons on a up time means it will do No damage at all , so just ignore it and burst down squishy players untill the druid is overpowered.

simple realy , unlike trying to tank out a Necro from his shroud to stop him from damaging others , the druid becomes a non-damage dealer while in his CAS form and recovers Burst damage+supports so don’t go on the hard offensive when the druid is ready to recover it.

CC the druid don’t try and kill it while its in CAS form , use that as a distraction and kill / hard pressure other players . Naturaly players will go find a guardian / warroir or druid for the extra support dragging themselfs into 300 yards of that player meaning at this point AOE HARD CC the DRUID and the rest will follow.

Tons of other ways to heal pet other than orb, basic attack through the pet counts as a heal. Blind spam is op but Tempest does it better with Shocking Aura stun spam at faster rate.

didn’t even mention healing of pets , the lingering light grants a blind on next heal with a ICD of 1second so for the wisps duration , it causes blind for the targets healed by it, so the counter is simply Back away. ( im not in game right now But the Wikis on google are all Wrong! atm so i;d not use them as Credible sources of information)

#lingering light turns staff 2 into a defence skill that allows more effective AS generation if you stay still taking the blinds from the pet , Deny both blinds and AF generation by moving away.

And how is that trait triggered, heals, don’t need the orb when you can basic attack to get it just as easily.

obvoiusly you don’t need the orb to trigger it and since the blinds are applied after the heal on an ally , it won’t matter if staff 1 heals or not , moving away reduces the amount of healing applications by the ORB on you healing the targets around you.

so now you’d only content with a moving pet which needs to be targeted by a staff 1 ground target at a much less Rate than if you’d stand still allowing you to be Perma Blinded.

and if the staff 1 is targeting the pet and not you , you don’t take damage as its being aimed else where. look at the bigger picture.

Blind has a 3 second cooldown, aiming the beam between the enemy and pet isn’t hard in the slightest and gives the most Astral Force of anything. Orb heal has nearly the same duration as cooldown and still orbits the enemy if he runs.

if they are standing still yes its easy but if the target is moving you have to get behind the pet and chase which may put you in a Dangerous postion and if the target is running towards you , the pet is now behind the target , so now how can that beam heal the pet i say.

there is somthing you learn as a high tier ranger that is postioning is important but not as important as the suroundings.

F3, F1, this is why I say Rangers are bottom tier on the average Ranger.

and you think a pet on recall is Faster moving than a Person with Swiftness ! do you really think a Druid is going to have Swiftness at hand all the time , no it won’t nor it will have Warhorn if lucky.

f1 and f3 are simple Controls that do not effect Gained around over distance so that can not be used as a Excuse for calling Rangers botten tier , now you’ve brought up that little problem i think Druids should Gain some boons to go with a Minstrel Amulet as building for druid clearly lacks any amount of boons apart from Regen.

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StickerHappy.8052:

Nerf druid. Lol. bottom tier class and suddenly gives people a hard time, everyone starts losing their minds.

Druid is only bottom tier if you don’t use a staff and don’t know how to aim the basic attack with the skill of your average Ranger player.

You exactly proved my point. Ranger was bottom tier since forever after the spirit meta, and dd eles, guards, engies and thieves are always almost present.

Now Druid gives you a hard time, and you cry? Tough luck then.

No it was always bottom tier on your average Ranger player, Tempest is a better bunker ATM though anyways.

Average ranger player? How many rangers do you see in WTS? ESL?

When did I say top tier.

glaphen.5230:

StickerHappy.8052:

glaphen.5230:

StickerHappy.8052:

Nerf druid. Lol. bottom tier class and suddenly gives people a hard time, everyone starts losing their minds.

Druid is only bottom tier if you don’t use a staff and don’t know how to aim the basic attack with the skill of your average Ranger player.

You exactly proved my point. Ranger was bottom tier since forever after the spirit meta, and dd eles, guards, engies and thieves are always almost present.

Now Druid gives you a hard time, and you cry? Tough luck then.

No it was always bottom tier on your average Ranger player, Tempest is a better bunker ATM though anyways.

So basically you are saying on a super ranger player it is >bottom tier = top tier.

Since when are there only 2 tiers.

Zenos Osgorma.2936:

the only blind rangers have are on a pet Raven and Lingering light on the druid if it heals a target with a orb the next attack that goes out blinds , so if you see orbs floating around a target back away for 2seconds untill it misses or don’t go on the offensive when the druid is going through its healing rotations , its still all about burst just at the right time.

ether way if a ranger tanks up with evades and uses lingering light +HaO with guard is the only way to obtain so many boons on a up time means it will do No damage at all , so just ignore it and burst down squishy players untill the druid is overpowered.

simple realy , unlike trying to tank out a Necro from his shroud to stop him from damaging others , the druid becomes a non-damage dealer while in his CAS form and recovers Burst damage+supports so don’t go on the hard offensive when the druid is ready to recover it.

CC the druid don’t try and kill it while its in CAS form , use that as a distraction and kill / hard pressure other players . Naturaly players will go find a guardian / warroir or druid for the extra support dragging themselfs into 300 yards of that player meaning at this point AOE HARD CC the DRUID and the rest will follow.

Tons of other ways to heal pet other than orb, basic attack through the pet counts as a heal. Blind spam is op but Tempest does it better with Shocking Aura stun spam at faster rate.

didn’t even mention healing of pets , the lingering light grants a blind on next heal with a ICD of 1second so for the wisps duration , it causes blind for the targets healed by it, so the counter is simply Back away. ( im not in game right now But the Wikis on google are all Wrong! atm so i;d not use them as Credible sources of information)

#lingering light turns staff 2 into a defence skill that allows more effective AS generation if you stay still taking the blinds from the pet , Deny both blinds and AF generation by moving away.

And how is that trait triggered, heals, don’t need the orb when you can basic attack to get it just as easily.

obvoiusly you don’t need the orb to trigger it and since the blinds are applied after the heal on an ally , it won’t matter if staff 1 heals or not , moving away reduces the amount of healing applications by the ORB on you healing the targets around you.

so now you’d only content with a moving pet which needs to be targeted by a staff 1 ground target at a much less Rate than if you’d stand still allowing you to be Perma Blinded.

and if the staff 1 is targeting the pet and not you , you don’t take damage as its being aimed else where. look at the bigger picture.

Blind has a 3 second cooldown, aiming the beam between the enemy and pet isn’t hard in the slightest and gives the most Astral Force of anything. Orb heal has nearly the same duration as cooldown and still orbits the enemy if he runs.

if they are standing still yes its easy but if the target is moving you have to get behind the pet and chase which may put you in a Dangerous postion and if the target is running towards you , the pet is now behind the target , so now how can that beam heal the pet i say.

there is somthing you learn as a high tier ranger that is postioning is important but not as important as the suroundings.

F3, F1, this is why I say Rangers are bottom tier on the average Ranger.

and you think a pet on recall is Faster moving than a Person with Swiftness ! do you really think a Druid is going to have Swiftness at hand all the time , no it won’t nor it will have Warhorn if lucky.

f1 and f3 are simple Controls that do not effect Gained around over distance so that can not be used as a Excuse for calling Rangers botten tier , now you’ve brought up that little problem i think Druids should Gain some boons to go with a Minstrel Amulet as building for druid clearly lacks any amount of boons apart from Regen.

See you don’t even know pets move faster when moving back to you with F3.

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Druid really isnt overpowered at the moment, people are just kittened and have no clue how to deal with them. 1 stability and 0 stunbreaks = try to actually cc before blowing all ur cooldowns like a solo q hero

I usually roll with 3 stun breaks and SoTP. on rare occasions, 2.

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Nerf druid. Lol. bottom tier class and suddenly gives people a hard time, everyone starts losing their minds.

Druid is only bottom tier if you don’t use a staff and don’t know how to aim the basic attack with the skill of your average Ranger player.

You exactly proved my point. Ranger was bottom tier since forever after the spirit meta, and dd eles, guards, engies and thieves are always almost present.

Now Druid gives you a hard time, and you cry? Tough luck then.

No it was always bottom tier on your average Ranger player, Tempest is a better bunker ATM though anyways.

Average ranger player? How many rangers do you see in WTS? ESL?

When did I say top tier.

glaphen.5230:

StickerHappy.8052:

glaphen.5230:

StickerHappy.8052:

Nerf druid. Lol. bottom tier class and suddenly gives people a hard time, everyone starts losing their minds.

Druid is only bottom tier if you don’t use a staff and don’t know how to aim the basic attack with the skill of your average Ranger player.

You exactly proved my point. Ranger was bottom tier since forever after the spirit meta, and dd eles, guards, engies and thieves are always almost present.

Now Druid gives you a hard time, and you cry? Tough luck then.

No it was always bottom tier on your average Ranger player, Tempest is a better bunker ATM though anyways.

So basically you are saying on a super ranger player it is >bottom tier = top tier.

Since when are there only 2 tiers.

Zenos Osgorma.2936:

the only blind rangers have are on a pet Raven and Lingering light on the druid if it heals a target with a orb the next attack that goes out blinds , so if you see orbs floating around a target back away for 2seconds untill it misses or don’t go on the offensive when the druid is going through its healing rotations , its still all about burst just at the right time.

ether way if a ranger tanks up with evades and uses lingering light +HaO with guard is the only way to obtain so many boons on a up time means it will do No damage at all , so just ignore it and burst down squishy players untill the druid is overpowered.

simple realy , unlike trying to tank out a Necro from his shroud to stop him from damaging others , the druid becomes a non-damage dealer while in his CAS form and recovers Burst damage+supports so don’t go on the hard offensive when the druid is ready to recover it.

CC the druid don’t try and kill it while its in CAS form , use that as a distraction and kill / hard pressure other players . Naturaly players will go find a guardian / warroir or druid for the extra support dragging themselfs into 300 yards of that player meaning at this point AOE HARD CC the DRUID and the rest will follow.

Tons of other ways to heal pet other than orb, basic attack through the pet counts as a heal. Blind spam is op but Tempest does it better with Shocking Aura stun spam at faster rate.

didn’t even mention healing of pets , the lingering light grants a blind on next heal with a ICD of 1second so for the wisps duration , it causes blind for the targets healed by it, so the counter is simply Back away. ( im not in game right now But the Wikis on google are all Wrong! atm so i;d not use them as Credible sources of information)

#lingering light turns staff 2 into a defence skill that allows more effective AS generation if you stay still taking the blinds from the pet , Deny both blinds and AF generation by moving away.

And how is that trait triggered, heals, don’t need the orb when you can basic attack to get it just as easily.

obvoiusly you don’t need the orb to trigger it and since the blinds are applied after the heal on an ally , it won’t matter if staff 1 heals or not , moving away reduces the amount of healing applications by the ORB on you healing the targets around you.

so now you’d only content with a moving pet which needs to be targeted by a staff 1 ground target at a much less Rate than if you’d stand still allowing you to be Perma Blinded.

and if the staff 1 is targeting the pet and not you , you don’t take damage as its being aimed else where. look at the bigger picture.

Blind has a 3 second cooldown, aiming the beam between the enemy and pet isn’t hard in the slightest and gives the most Astral Force of anything. Orb heal has nearly the same duration as cooldown and still orbits the enemy if he runs.

if they are standing still yes its easy but if the target is moving you have to get behind the pet and chase which may put you in a Dangerous postion and if the target is running towards you , the pet is now behind the target , so now how can that beam heal the pet i say.

there is somthing you learn as a high tier ranger that is postioning is important but not as important as the suroundings.

F3, F1, this is why I say Rangers are bottom tier on the average Ranger.

and you think a pet on recall is Faster moving than a Person with Swiftness ! do you really think a Druid is going to have Swiftness at hand all the time , no it won’t nor it will have Warhorn if lucky.

f1 and f3 are simple Controls that do not effect Gained around over distance so that can not be used as a Excuse for calling Rangers botten tier , now you’ve brought up that little problem i think Druids should Gain some boons to go with a Minstrel Amulet as building for druid clearly lacks any amount of boons apart from Regen.

See you don’t even know pets move faster when moving back to you with F3.

that only works if you are not in combat , no imagine if you have Celestine trait or Natural stride you will be out running the pet and a target chasing you will move at the same speed as a pet as it gap closes , the pet may catch up for a second! , but the effort of recall would be wasted for 1-2 AA’s from staff or 2.75% AF generation.

don’t go quoting thing i so Called " don’t know" i do the movement from a Recall is usally pointless in those situations against a Advancing foe and if they do , you are forced to pet swap and if you can’t what is the point in recalling as they don’t Recall at crazy speeds its 33% speed recall same speed as someone with swiftness.

it may look faster but in Reality its the same speed when you are moving after targets as distances Contract smaller or larger. its much more compelex than just Recalling.

it took … 6 months? to remove vamp now let’s hope they remove this kittening amulet.

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Nerf druid. Lol. bottom tier class and suddenly gives people a hard time, everyone starts losing their minds.

Druid is only bottom tier if you don’t use a staff and don’t know how to aim the basic attack with the skill of your average Ranger player.

You exactly proved my point. Ranger was bottom tier since forever after the spirit meta, and dd eles, guards, engies and thieves are always almost present.

Now Druid gives you a hard time, and you cry? Tough luck then.

No it was always bottom tier on your average Ranger player, Tempest is a better bunker ATM though anyways.

Average ranger player? How many rangers do you see in WTS? ESL?

When did I say top tier.

glaphen.5230:

StickerHappy.8052:

glaphen.5230:

StickerHappy.8052:

Nerf druid. Lol. bottom tier class and suddenly gives people a hard time, everyone starts losing their minds.

Druid is only bottom tier if you don’t use a staff and don’t know how to aim the basic attack with the skill of your average Ranger player.

You exactly proved my point. Ranger was bottom tier since forever after the spirit meta, and dd eles, guards, engies and thieves are always almost present.

Now Druid gives you a hard time, and you cry? Tough luck then.

No it was always bottom tier on your average Ranger player, Tempest is a better bunker ATM though anyways.

So basically you are saying on a super ranger player it is >bottom tier = top tier.

Since when are there only 2 tiers.

Zenos Osgorma.2936:

the only blind rangers have are on a pet Raven and Lingering light on the druid if it heals a target with a orb the next attack that goes out blinds , so if you see orbs floating around a target back away for 2seconds untill it misses or don’t go on the offensive when the druid is going through its healing rotations , its still all about burst just at the right time.

ether way if a ranger tanks up with evades and uses lingering light +HaO with guard is the only way to obtain so many boons on a up time means it will do No damage at all , so just ignore it and burst down squishy players untill the druid is overpowered.

simple realy , unlike trying to tank out a Necro from his shroud to stop him from damaging others , the druid becomes a non-damage dealer while in his CAS form and recovers Burst damage+supports so don’t go on the hard offensive when the druid is ready to recover it.

CC the druid don’t try and kill it while its in CAS form , use that as a distraction and kill / hard pressure other players . Naturaly players will go find a guardian / warroir or druid for the extra support dragging themselfs into 300 yards of that player meaning at this point AOE HARD CC the DRUID and the rest will follow.

Tons of other ways to heal pet other than orb, basic attack through the pet counts as a heal. Blind spam is op but Tempest does it better with Shocking Aura stun spam at faster rate.

didn’t even mention healing of pets , the lingering light grants a blind on next heal with a ICD of 1second so for the wisps duration , it causes blind for the targets healed by it, so the counter is simply Back away. ( im not in game right now But the Wikis on google are all Wrong! atm so i;d not use them as Credible sources of information)

#lingering light turns staff 2 into a defence skill that allows more effective AS generation if you stay still taking the blinds from the pet , Deny both blinds and AF generation by moving away.

And how is that trait triggered, heals, don’t need the orb when you can basic attack to get it just as easily.

obvoiusly you don’t need the orb to trigger it and since the blinds are applied after the heal on an ally , it won’t matter if staff 1 heals or not , moving away reduces the amount of healing applications by the ORB on you healing the targets around you.

so now you’d only content with a moving pet which needs to be targeted by a staff 1 ground target at a much less Rate than if you’d stand still allowing you to be Perma Blinded.

and if the staff 1 is targeting the pet and not you , you don’t take damage as its being aimed else where. look at the bigger picture.

Blind has a 3 second cooldown, aiming the beam between the enemy and pet isn’t hard in the slightest and gives the most Astral Force of anything. Orb heal has nearly the same duration as cooldown and still orbits the enemy if he runs.

if they are standing still yes its easy but if the target is moving you have to get behind the pet and chase which may put you in a Dangerous postion and if the target is running towards you , the pet is now behind the target , so now how can that beam heal the pet i say.

there is somthing you learn as a high tier ranger that is postioning is important but not as important as the suroundings.

F3, F1, this is why I say Rangers are bottom tier on the average Ranger.

and you think a pet on recall is Faster moving than a Person with Swiftness ! do you really think a Druid is going to have Swiftness at hand all the time , no it won’t nor it will have Warhorn if lucky.

f1 and f3 are simple Controls that do not effect Gained around over distance so that can not be used as a Excuse for calling Rangers botten tier , now you’ve brought up that little problem i think Druids should Gain some boons to go with a Minstrel Amulet as building for druid clearly lacks any amount of boons apart from Regen.

See you don’t even know pets move faster when moving back to you with F3.

that only works if you are not in combat , no imagine if you have Celestine trait or Natural stride you will be out running the pet and a target chasing you will move at the same speed as a pet as it gap closes , the pet may catch up for a second! , but the effort of recall would be wasted for 1-2 AA’s from staff or 2.75% AF generation.

don’t go quoting thing i so Called " don’t know" i do the movement from a Recall is usally pointless in those situations against a Advancing foe and if they do , you are forced to pet swap and if you can’t what is the point in recalling as they don’t Recall at crazy speeds its 33% speed recall same speed as someone with swiftness.

it may look faster but in Reality its the same speed when you are moving after targets as distances Contract smaller or larger. its much more compelex than just Recalling.

If both the pet and I have swiftness in combat and I start running then hit F3 a bit later it reaches me extremely fast.

Elxdark.9702:

it took … 6 months? to remove vamp now let’s hope they remove this kittening amulet.

I want it removed mostly for an enjoyment reason. It is not okay to ruin the game mode because someone wanted to play extrememly tanky. I am not talking about ESL or anything. I am talking about regular games played by new players or advanced players who wants to play casually. Those players are needed for an healthy game: Minstrel amulet will only be good at pushing them out.

I am a high mmr player. Personnally, it just sucks the fun out of the game when some guy decided by selecting one amulet that they will not die.

minstrel amulet is fine.

no need to remove it.

Alekt.5803:

Elxdark.9702:

it took … 6 months? to remove vamp now let’s hope they remove this kittening amulet.

I want it removed mostly for an enjoyment reason. It is not okay to ruin the game mode because someone wanted to play extrememly tanky. I am not talking about ESL or anything. I am talking about regular games played by new players or advanced players who wants to play casually. Those players are needed for an healthy game: Minstrel amulet will only be good at pushing them out.

I am a high mmr player. Personnally, it just sucks the fun out of the game when some guy decided by selecting one amulet that they will not die.

Remove it and they will use Clerics with almost no difference, no way you are going to push bunkers out of the meta without removing anything with healing power and toughness but then they would just play bunker Necromancer.

If you want to be a bunker it should be fine, not everyone wants to be a glass cannon.

DrDivine.5378:

If you want to be a bunker it should be fine, not everyone wants to be a glass cannon.

Games are not won with scores nowadays, they are won by timer. Yeah, it’s fine that one or two guys are ruining it for all the other players.

Alekt.5803:

DrDivine.5378:

If you want to be a bunker it should be fine, not everyone wants to be a glass cannon.

Games are not won with scores nowadays, they are won by timer. Yeah, it’s fine that one or two guys are ruining it for all the other players.

If a game is won by timer that sounds like multiple bunkers on both teams and neither team is very good.

glaphen.5230:

Alekt.5803:

DrDivine.5378:

If you want to be a bunker it should be fine, not everyone wants to be a glass cannon.

Games are not won with scores nowadays, they are won by timer. Yeah, it’s fine that one or two guys are ruining it for all the other players.

If a game is won by timer that sounds like multiple bunkers on both teams and neither team is very good.

In competitive play most matches are won after the full timer, but in normap tpvp almost never. I don’t see any high tier players using that ammulet.

Rangers defending druids are like ele defending fire ele pre-nerf. Ridiculous.

Alekt.5803:

I want it removed mostly for an enjoyment reason. It is not okay to ruin the game mode because someone wanted to play extrememly tanky. I am not talking about ESL or anything. I am talking about regular games played by new players or advanced players who wants to play casually. Those players are needed for an healthy game: Minstrel amulet will only be good at pushing them out.

I am a somewhat high mmr player. Personnally, it just sucks the fun out of the game when some guy decided by selecting one amulet that they will not die.

Just imagine this new guy who is not a complete newbie to the genre. He (or she) thought that maybe he could try out this game he heard about called Guild Wars 2. He sees a couple of minstrels users after a few games of climbing up the MMR, is bored to death and just uninstall. Minstrel is a very dangerous amulet. Well, not to your mesmer, revenant, elementalist… Minstrel is dangerous to the players.

I edited my message to pass a more constructive point. Yes, I was kittened off because I just played against one. We did not lose, but it was boring. And, what do we do about boring games?…

I am an extremely high mmr player on team Radioactive where I actively played in 50 or so ESLs multiple tournaments, etc.

When it comes right down to it, your argument is “it is not fun to play against”, but you forget to consider the fact that it Is fun to play a minstrel build. Saying “it’s very dangerous to new players” is the dumbest thing I’ve heard because new players hate dying, I think they would Much rather face something that can’t kill them rather than get one shot by a DH, Rampage War, hammer rev, etc.

Also, if someone wants to make a build that is specifically for tanking and healing allies that should be allowed and encouraged so comps can exist with high damage roles backed up by support rather than 5 bruisers running around spamming all of their skills.

I hope you realize that you do Not speak for new players, that everyone has their individual likes and dislikes, when it comes right down to it, you Personally had a bad experience fighting a minstrel build and not being able to kill it (probably for 10 min on a point capped in the minstrel guy’s favor like a kitten). You had a weak argument as to why you PERSONALLY think it should be taken out of pvp and tried to speak for the new people coming into this game to achieve your own ends.

I personally think that the minstrel build is very balanced specifically because it can’t kill anyone and shouldn’t be able to, that is the drawback, that is why it is impossible to run more than 2 (which is pushing it) in an actual comp.

Now, to leave with some dignity, please go and edit your post by deleting anything involving anyone other than yourself and add “in my own opinion, I think minstrel amulet should be deleted because I couldn’t 1v1 it” not garbage like “new players are quitting the game because of minstrel amulet, oh and here’s my published data and findings concerning it”.

yall just want it gone because you are too scrub and too lazy to learn how fight druid.

Firebird.8324:

Alekt.5803:

I want it removed mostly for an enjoyment reason. It is not okay to ruin the game mode because someone wanted to play extrememly tanky. I am not talking about ESL or anything. I am talking about regular games played by new players or advanced players who wants to play casually. Those players are needed for an healthy game: Minstrel amulet will only be good at pushing them out.

I am a somewhat high mmr player. Personnally, it just sucks the fun out of the game when some guy decided by selecting one amulet that they will not die.

Just imagine this new guy who is not a complete newbie to the genre. He (or she) thought that maybe he could try out this game he heard about called Guild Wars 2. He sees a couple of minstrels users after a few games of climbing up the MMR, is bored to death and just uninstall. Minstrel is a very dangerous amulet. Well, not to your mesmer, revenant, elementalist… Minstrel is dangerous to the players.

I edited my message to pass a more constructive point. Yes, I was kittened off because I just played against one. We did not lose, but it was boring. And, what do we do about boring games?…

I am an extremely high mmr player on team Radioactive where I actively played in 50 or so ESLs multiple tournaments, etc.

When it comes right down to it, your argument is “it is not fun to play against”, but you forget to consider the fact that it Is fun to play a minstrel build. Saying “it’s very dangerous to new players” is the dumbest thing I’ve heard because new players hate dying, I think they would Much rather face something that can’t kill them rather than get one shot by a DH, Rampage War, hammer rev, etc.

Also, if someone wants to make a build that is specifically for tanking and healing allies that should be allowed and encouraged so comps can exist with high damage roles backed up by support rather than 5 bruisers running around spamming all of their skills.

I hope you realize that you do Not speak for new players, that everyone has their individual likes and dislikes, when it comes right down to it, you Personally had a bad experience fighting a minstrel build and not being able to kill it (probably for 10 min on a point capped in the minstrel guy’s favor like a kitten). You had a weak argument as to why you PERSONALLY think it should be taken out of pvp and tried to speak for the new people coming into this game to achieve your own ends.

I personally think that the minstrel build is very balanced specifically because it can’t kill anyone and shouldn’t be able to, that is the drawback, that is why it is impossible to run more than 2 (which is pushing it) in an actual comp.

Now, to leave with some dignity, please go and edit your post by deleting anything involving anyone other than yourself and add “in my own opinion, I think minstrel amulet should be deleted because I couldn’t 1v1 it” not garbage like “new players are quitting the game because of minstrel amulet, oh and here’s my published data and findings concerning it”.

REKT.