Guild Wars 2

Finally one of the top franchise in gw2 pvp history is crowned as the champion.

This is also the first time, I believe, the mesmer and ranger class have been played on the winning team since the introduction of first WTS in Beijing. And now all of the 9 classes in this game have been included on the champion teams

Yep, and thanks everyone else for being warm up teams.

It was a great show :P

Well, Gratz for the LAN performance, pretty dominated, but I don’t forget what happened during the Season in EU side. Pretty trash.

Helseth Interview was better than the entire serie against PZ, very good games between Astral and Rank, and a not so great final but this was most of all for a very strong performance by TCG.

BTW Greatsword Carrion Warrior made the difference, could you bet on this not only 3 years ago but just some months ago?

Lol

Drazeh MVP

Phil.8901:

Well, Gratz for the LAN performance, pretty dominated, but I don’t forget what happened during the Season in EU side. Pretty trash.

Helseth Interview was better than the entire serie against PZ, very good games between Astral and Rank, and a not so great final but this was most of all for a very strong performance by TCG.

BTW Greatsword Carrion Warrior made the difference, could you bet on this not only 3 years ago but just some months ago?

Lol

Drazeh MVP

It’s a shame that GS Carrion war has no place in regular ranked games because of how it works. It’s basically there to just stall caps and prevent decaps forever. Doesn’t really work in most ranked games where players don’t know how to rotate or +1.

#DrazehMVP #bestduellerworld #Drazehisbeast

bLind.6278:

Phil.8901:

Well, Gratz for the LAN performance, pretty dominated, but I don’t forget what happened during the Season in EU side. Pretty trash.

Helseth Interview was better than the entire serie against PZ, very good games between Astral and Rank, and a not so great final but this was most of all for a very strong performance by TCG.

BTW Greatsword Carrion Warrior made the difference, could you bet on this not only 3 years ago but just some months ago?

Lol

Drazeh MVP

It’s a shame that GS Carrion war has no place in regular ranked games because of how it works. It’s basically there to just stall caps and prevent decaps forever. Doesn’t really work in most ranked games where players don’t know how to rotate or +1.

Yeah for sure but to be honest a lot of things don’t work in a random queue and work in team queue (most of all at best level possible).

We all know this is a totally different game in pro league top tier andfor the rest of teams/other players, there is a huge gap.

In general I hope Anet can build something different for all players, I’m a supporter of Arena 2vs2, I really think a game mode like this could help the entire scene, twitch, players, teams, basically everything.

Hugh, listen to us

so how many viewers?

the AA and 55 dragon games where better specially game 1 and 3

It was like 5k+ for the final, not bad for GW2, in general was an enjoyable show.

But the real problem never was the pro league or this show, the problem is the pvp quality game every day for each player.

usually i find the gw2 pvp games boring to watch but im surprise myself that this games and match up is actually really fun to watch.

Phil.8901:

It was like 5k+ for the final, not bad for GW2, in general was an enjoyable show.

But the real problem never was the pro league or this show, the problem is the pvp quality game every day for each player.

PvP is absolute kitten for 99% of the playerbase. People with high MMR winning without needing to try, people with low MMR losing regardless of what they do, not a decent match to be found anywhere in between.

If you’re not in a group queue, your experience is terrible, 100% of the time.

bLind.6278:

Phil.8901:

It was like 5k+ for the final, not bad for GW2, in general was an enjoyable show.

But the real problem never was the pro league or this show, the problem is the pvp quality game every day for each player.

PvP is absolute kitten for 99% of the playerbase. People with high MMR winning without needing to try, people with low MMR losing regardless of what they do, not a decent match to be found anywhere in between.

If you’re not in a group queue, your experience is terrible, 100% of the time.

This is a festive occassion, no need to ruin it

There was a tournament? Why were there no advertisments? Maybe I would have tuned in for a few minutes during the OG OverWatch Invitationals downtime :/

Congrats to TCG, I wasn’t expecting them to win, but they did great. The whole thing in the regular Pro League was a shame, but almost worth the pain just to being able to see the god tier levels of trolling from Helseth in the final interview.

Crovax.7854:

There was a tournament? Why were there no advertisments? Maybe I would have tuned in for a few minutes during the OG OverWatch Invitationals downtime :/

Overwatch! I almost forgot that I paid for that game and is somewhere in my HD… How’s doing? I heard that the random drops do makes generic Korean MMO grinding “reasonable”.

Buran.3796:

Crovax.7854:

There was a tournament? Why were there no advertisments? Maybe I would have tuned in for a few minutes during the OG OverWatch Invitationals downtime :/

Overwatch! I almost forgot that I paid for that game and is somewhere in my HD… How’s doing? I heard that the random drops do makes generic Korean MMO grinding “reasonable”.

Don’t know where you heard that because you get a loot box every ~5 games/1h but it’s doing insanely well. About two weeks ago there were reportedly over 10 million active players and they have multiple tournaments a each week; all of them averaging around 25-30k viewers, which is insane considering the scene is relatively young and those tourneys are iirc completely community organized.

Plus r/overwtach just overtook r/minecraft and is now the third largest gaming subreddit after pokemon and league. Jeff Kaplan, the lead game designer has been incredibly open and regularly posts on the forums and the subreddit as well as youtube videos where he talks about things to come and design decisions.

I know it’s cool to hate on blizz but ANet definitely could learn a thing or two.

Crovax.7854:

Buran.3796:

Crovax.7854:

There was a tournament? Why were there no advertisments? Maybe I would have tuned in for a few minutes during the OG OverWatch Invitationals downtime :/

Overwatch! I almost forgot that I paid for that game and is somewhere in my HD… How’s doing? I heard that the random drops do makes generic Korean MMO grinding “reasonable”.

Don’t know where you heard that because you get a loot box every ~5 games/1h but it’s doing insanely well. About two weeks ago there were reportedly over 10 million active players and they have multiple tournaments a each week; all of them averaging around 25-30k viewers, which is insane considering the scene is relatively young and those tourneys are iirc completely community organized.

Plus r/overwtach just overtook r/minecraft and is now the third largest gaming subreddit after pokemon and league. Jeff Kaplan, the lead game designer has been incredibly open and regularly posts on the forums and the subreddit as well as youtube videos where he talks about things to come and design decisions.

I know it’s cool to hate on blizz but ANet definitely could learn a thing or two.

Perhaps the community there is less toxic and more cooperative as well.

GW2 Forums = Full of complaining
Twitch Chat = Still full of complaining

So yea.

Lopez.7369:

Crovax.7854:

There was a tournament? Why were there no advertisments? Maybe I would have tuned in for a few minutes during the OG OverWatch Invitationals downtime :/

It was advertised everywhere. There was a buff in-game, there was an ad in every loading screen in-game, there was an ad in the front page of the Guild Wars 2 site and login window, and there was an a notice on these forums and Reddit.

Short of them visiting your house and telling you personally, I’m not sure what more they could do. If people don’t tune in, they’re just not interested or not paying attention.

Yes, I assume that is was mostly my fault. What I posted there were my immediate thoughts after reading the title. Usually I’m being made aware of tournaments when viewership for certain games on the twitch HP spikes.
I haven’t played GW2 in quite a while since there’s nothing really worthwhile to do aside from grinding HoT maps and the post on the subreddit had so little upvotes that I just overlooked it :/
I was interested but I assumed that, just like with other games, those with ongoing tourneys just appear on the twitch frontpage even when they normally don’t have a huge following. A good example for that would be several SSB Melee tournaments in the last couple of weeks.

great fights
we still see how ranger and ele combination manage to hold point even if team losing players combine with warrior who also manage to do so for shorter time.
great portaling and rotation and support

GG TCG

the start of the finals was fishy. again. they just stopped the match and started all over again. because they had “technical issues” and someone “didnt feel well”. since anet, known for integrity, would never lie, its remarkable that both happened at the same time. and anet kept us informed very professionally, good job as always.

second season that a bunch of silly cheaters win. the same cowards btw. its beyond disgusting, really. they should have been banned in the first place, but they get a restart if needed instead.

i spit on your “game” anet. i spit on your wannabepros and i spit on those who hype a team that even fails to jump the shortcut in kyhlo or boxes in skyhammer. this game, this “pvp”, is a joke. it will never grow. which is good.

Congrats TCG! It was a great finals, the grand final itself was pretty good, especially the last game (if only rank 55 could have kept that Lord alive for 10 more seconds what could have happened then…). The absolute highlight of the finals for me was the r55 vs. Astral series. That was absolutely awesome, far better than their series at the season 1 finals. Astral should probably have won at least one of the first 2 games to make it a 3-2 but it was great anyway. Also, like the commentators said, we will probably see a lot of greatsword warriors in game now after drazeh ran it, Similar to how I now see a high percentage of guardians run bunker after tage ran it in the regular season of the pro league. Can’t wait for the world championship!

Khales.3198:

the start of the finals was fishy. again. they just stopped the match and started all over again. because they had “technical issues” and someone “didnt feel well”. since anet, known for integrity, would never lie, its remarkable that both happened at the same time. and anet kept us informed very professionally, good job as always.

second season that a bunch of silly cheaters win. the same cowards btw. its beyond disgusting, really. they should have been banned in the first place, but they get a restart if needed instead.

i spit on your “game” anet. i spit on your wannabepros and i spit on those who hype a team that even fails to jump the shortcut in kyhlo or boxes in skyhammer. this game, this “pvp”, is a joke. it will never grow. which is good.

Why not just quit and stop posting here? If you really hate pvp just quit man, stop making salty posts, you sound like a distressed teenager.

StickerHappy.8052:

Why not just quit and stop posting here? If you really hate pvp just quit man, stop making salty posts, you sound like a distressed teenager.

sure they restarted because i am salty.

and since it wasnt clear enough for you genius, of course i quit.

Khales.3198:

StickerHappy.8052:

Why not just quit and stop posting here? If you really hate pvp just quit man, stop making salty posts, you sound like a distressed teenager.

sure they restarted because i am salty.

and since it wasnt clear enough for you genius, of course i quit.

Tcg was in the lead and with two caps.. It was ROM, he threw up and had to go to the toilet.

StickerHappy.8052:

Crovax.7854:

Buran.3796:

Crovax.7854:

There was a tournament? Why were there no advertisments? Maybe I would have tuned in for a few minutes during the OG OverWatch Invitationals downtime :/

Overwatch! I almost forgot that I paid for that game and is somewhere in my HD… How’s doing? I heard that the random drops do makes generic Korean MMO grinding “reasonable”.

Don’t know where you heard that because you get a loot box every ~5 games/1h but it’s doing insanely well. About two weeks ago there were reportedly over 10 million active players and they have multiple tournaments a each week; all of them averaging around 25-30k viewers, which is insane considering the scene is relatively young and those tourneys are iirc completely community organized.

Plus r/overwtach just overtook r/minecraft and is now the third largest gaming subreddit after pokemon and league. Jeff Kaplan, the lead game designer has been incredibly open and regularly posts on the forums and the subreddit as well as youtube videos where he talks about things to come and design decisions.

I know it’s cool to hate on blizz but ANet definitely could learn a thing or two.

Perhaps the community there is less toxic and more cooperative as well.

GW2 Forums = Full of complaining
Twitch Chat = Still full of complaining

So yea.

Trust me, once Blizzard screw something up, like they always did with any of their game, people will rage. Just look at WoW pvp forums.

Really awesome games and good event organisation this time, without any issues. Matches were intense. If you haven’t watched it live, watch VoDs.

Gzzz! Insanely good gameplay by TCG.

Khales.3198:

StickerHappy.8052:

Why not just quit and stop posting here? If you really hate pvp just quit man, stop making salty posts, you sound like a distressed teenager.

sure they restarted because i am salty.

and since it wasnt clear enough for you genius, of course i quit.

man you have been complaining for a loooong time, time to chill out and remember its a game and move on, life is too short.

Oh there was a tournament? Congrats!

It’s been a long time since I actually enjoyed a whole PL stream.

Well done to all the teams, but that EU domination.

11/10 TCG well done.

Before the tourney, I had my bets on rank 55 and considered TCG a wildcard. We hadn’t seen TCG performing against a top team with their new roaster. We saw that they were very dominating against smaller teams (more than rank 55) but that did not prove much.

But when I saw their first games against PZ, I saw a very impressive team and I immediately changed my bet: if they could maintain this intensity, they had it in the pocket…. and they did!

They were truly impressive and it feels that none of the 3 other teams stood a chance. I hate to see how this will fuel Helseth’s arrogance, but this was a well deserved win. Congrats TCG!

On a side note, the news free camera spectating was awesome.

I have no idea who any of these teams are. Gratz though.

BrotherBelial.3094:

I have no idea who any of these teams are. Gratz though.

TCG and 55 have both actively played in tournaments for 3 years and you have no idea who either of them are? Right ok.

Brother Belial with trollpost and Belial falling for it?

must be same guy with 2 accounts

Orangensaft.7139:

Brother Belial with trollpost and Belial falling for it?

must be same guy with 2 accounts

Nope, I don’t have that much money. I don’t watch the ESL or any other tournament ANet runs, so I’m not going to know, I could play against them or with them and be none the wiser. Guess I’m too busy playing GW2 to know who they are.

i whish the casters instead of talking so much could show us past events and key movements by each players.

like for the next tournamnet Helseth 1v2 at the end of the game….
etc..

Grtz to all the teams, but esp the winner.