Guild Wars 2

I always thought it was a shame that D/D ele became (sort of) fotm right when they bugged out magnetic grasp which allowed for 100% protection uptime builds. Well now it’s fixed and I think D/D will be increasingly fotm. Here’s the basic build setup (copy/paste link), it works for glass cannoning to bunkering.

http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-k33;9;9;9;09-T;44;34-A;6qNnCrcW5U

Here’s a little math to show the uptime percentage. 12 seconds is used as the realistic amount of time to swap in and out of earth attune.

Earth attune 8.25/12
Shocking aura 4.95/25
Frost aura 4.95/40
Ring of fire + magnetic grasp 4.95/15

Divide protection duration by its source’s cooldown and add up to get 1.33925. Since the value is greater than 1 you can stack increasingly higher durations of protection as long as you use each source when it’s off cooldown.

I made this post to inform non elementalists and hear their opinions, so please don’t move to the ele sub forum.

uh, isn’t ring of fire and magnetic grasp a fire shield?

Ziddy.2583:

uh, isn’t ring of fire and magnetic grasp a fire shield?

It’s an aura which grants the protection boon via elemental shielding trait.

Holy kitten. This is majorly bugged the I am getting around 30 seconds of protection off of ringe of fire + magnetic grasp w/ elemental shielding.

.. Wow. So it means I can have perma protection and perma regenration up as ele? I have to check this.

Cosmic Teapot.9162:

I always thought it was a shame that D/D ele became (sort of) fotm right when they bugged out magnetic grasp which allowed for 100% protection uptime builds. Well now it’s fixed and I think D/D will be increasingly fotm. Here’s the basic build setup (copy/paste link), it works for glass cannoning to bunkering.

http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-k33;9;9;9;09-T;44;34-A;6qNnCrcW5U

Here’s a little math to show the uptime percentage. 12 seconds is used as the realistic amount of time to swap in and out of earth attune.

Earth attune 8.25/12
Shocking aura 4.95/25
Frost aura 4.95/40
Ring of fire + magnetic grasp 4.95/15

Divide protection duration by its source’s cooldown and add up to get 1.33925. Since the value is greater than 1 you can stack increasingly higher durations of protection as long as you use each source when it’s off cooldown.

I made this post to inform non elementalists and hear their opinions, so please don’t move to the ele sub forum.

Again you with this paradoxical threads…
Because of you we had like 3-4 whine threads covering both this official forum and a community run forum, what a troll….

Arheundel.6451:

Again you with this paradoxical threads…
Because of you we had like 3-4 whine threads covering both this official forum and a community run forum, what a troll….

I can’t be held responsible for the actions of others.

I don’t appreciate being called a troll, when I’m just trying to point out potential strengths of the only profession I play.

Yes it works and it’s also pretty easy to do. 40+seconds of protection and 40+ of regeneration. Woho.

EDIT: How broken is that, seriously.

Cosmic Teapot.9162:

Arheundel.6451:

Again you with this paradoxical threads…
Because of you we had like 3-4 whine threads covering both this official forum and a community run forum, what a troll….

I can’t be held responsible for the actions of others.

I don’t appreciate being called a troll, when I’m just trying to point out potential strengths of the only profession I play.

Potential strenghts? The title of your video is " Guild Wars 2 bug", you really think to be clever don’t ya?

Your first “visitors” are well known thief players who have been whining about the ele for months, your actions speak louder than your mouth, you’re just encouraging these people with their little crusade and based on what?
An ele who just blow off all of his defensive skills to obtain a single effect?
Do you even know that you need a target for magnetic grasp?

Teabaker.9524:

Yes it works and it’s also pretty easy to do. 40+seconds of protection and 40+ of regeneration. Woho.

EDIT: How broken is that, seriously.

The fire field + magnetic grasp boon duration is bugged out like crazy now giving 26 base duration protection (instead of 3 seconds) and 45 seconds of swift+fury (instead of 5).

Cosmic Teapot.9162:

Teabaker.9524:

Yes it works and it’s also pretty easy to do. 40+seconds of protection and 40+ of regeneration. Woho.

EDIT: How broken is that, seriously.

The fire field + magnetic grasp boon duration is bugged out like crazy now giving 26 base duration protection (instead of 3 seconds) and 45 seconds of swift+fury (instead of 5).

Yes that is quite broken, but it really doesn’t matter since as you said you can maintain permanent protection just like you were able to before the patch which bugged the leap finisher.

Cosmic Teapot.9162:

Teabaker.9524:

Yes it works and it’s also pretty easy to do. 40+seconds of protection and 40+ of regeneration. Woho.

EDIT: How broken is that, seriously.

The fire field + magnetic grasp boon duration is bugged out like crazy now giving 26 base duration protection (instead of 3 seconds) and 45 seconds of swift+fury (instead of 5).

This an obvious bug which should have been reported in the appropiate bug section, the purpose of the thread was something else as indicated in the first post

Anet bug fixing at its finest

Yea, you are right. Haha. How funny

Arheundel.6451:

Cosmic Teapot.9162:

Arheundel.6451:

Again you with this paradoxical threads…
Because of you we had like 3-4 whine threads covering both this official forum and a community run forum, what a troll….

I can’t be held responsible for the actions of others.

I don’t appreciate being called a troll, when I’m just trying to point out potential strengths of the only profession I play.

Potential strenghts? The title of your video is " Guild Wars 2 bug", you really think to be clever don’t ya?

Your first “visitors” are well known thief players who have been whining about the ele for months, your actions speak louder than your mouth, you’re just encouraging these people with their little crusade and based on what?
An ele who just blow off all of his defensive skills to obtain a single effect?
Do you even know that you need a target for magnetic grasp?

If you don’t want to use any of the techniques I’ve given then that is fine. I’m not the first person to use magnetic grasp as a leap finisher in tandem with aura traits, but you are certainly the first person to argue against its effectiveness. Lots of people were upset when it became bugged and not for the aura, but because of the boons it gives.

The bulk of the protection duration comes from ring of fire + magnetic grasp combo, which gives 13.2 seconds of protection and can be used every 15 seconds. Using shocking aura and frost aura merely fill in the gaps and don’t necessarily need to be used everytime they are off cooldown. The argument that this isn’t effective because it requires a target and can be dodged is asinine as you could say the same about almost every ability in the game. You are clearly being adversarial and have some paranoid fantasy where any time someone promotes the strengths of elementalist you fear the devs plotting to nerf them.

Arheundel.6451:

Potential strenghts? The title of your video is " Guild Wars 2 bug", you really think to be clever don’t ya?

I made this thread right after I read the patch notes, I hadn’t actually logged in yet. I made that video when I realized there was an obvious bug that has nothing to do with the original 100% uptime builds I’ve been using for months.

I made the video to report this bug so that it can be fixed. I won’t even be using this build until that bug is fixed.

This should of been posted in the bug forums as it is a bug and needs to be fixed. The OP is trying to use this for his personal agenda which is shameful. If you know it is a bug report it, don’t try to create an ele hate thread while doing it.

BlueprintLFE.2358:

This should of been posted in the bug forums as it is a bug. The OP is trying to use this for his personal agenda which is shameful. If you know it is a bug report it, don’t try to create an ele hate thread while doing it.

I made this thread before I even realized there was a bug, don’t hold me responsible for anet’s mistake. I put it in the bug forum just now.

What is my personal agenda? Prior to Nov. 15 I used this build exclusively, why would I want it nerfed? I’ve been patiently waiting for them to fix the leap finisher and have posted multiple times in the bug and ele subforums asking for that.

Cosmic Teapot.9162:

Arheundel.6451:

Cosmic Teapot.9162:

Arheundel.6451:

Again you with this paradoxical threads…
Because of you we had like 3-4 whine threads covering both this official forum and a community run forum, what a troll….

I can’t be held responsible for the actions of others.

I don’t appreciate being called a troll, when I’m just trying to point out potential strengths of the only profession I play.

Potential strenghts? The title of your video is " Guild Wars 2 bug", you really think to be clever don’t ya?

Your first “visitors” are well known thief players who have been whining about the ele for months, your actions speak louder than your mouth, you’re just encouraging these people with their little crusade and based on what?
An ele who just blow off all of his defensive skills to obtain a single effect?
Do you even know that you need a target for magnetic grasp?

If you don’t want to use any of the techniques I’ve given then that is fine. I’m not the first person to use magnetic grasp as a leap finisher in tandem with aura traits, but you are certainly the first person to argue against its effectiveness. Lots of people were upset when it became bugged and not for the aura, but because of the boons it gives.

The bulk of the protection duration comes from ring of fire + magnetic grasp combo, which gives 13.2 seconds of protection and can be used every 15 seconds. Using shocking aura and frost aura merely fill in the gaps and don’t necessarily need to be used everytime they are off cooldown. The argument that this isn’t effective because it requires a target and can be dodged is asinine as you could say the same about almost every ability in the game. You are clearly being adversarial and have some paranoid fantasy where any time someone promotes the strengths of elementalist you fear the devs plotting to nerf them.

•Ele•We see the elementalist as the king of versatility. The skill ceiling for the Ele is exceptional, as the ability to leverage all four attunements at the right time is crucial for understanding the elemetnalist. The Ele boasts some of the best team support and control abilities in the game, as well as some great area of effect damage.

I find it rather sad that you’re still trying to be clever, so you’re trying to promote this profession strenght? Check the comment above from the developers:

the ability to leverage all four attunements at the right time is crucial for understanding the elemetnalist

And this is your truly asinine comments!

Divide protection duration by its source’s cooldown and add up to get 1.33925. Since the value is greater than 1 you can stack increasingly higher durations of protection as long as you use each source when it’s off cooldown.

I always thought it was a shame that D/D ele became (sort of) fotm right when they bugged out magnetic grasp which allowed for 100% protection uptime builds. Well now it’s fixed and I think D/D will be increasingly fotm.

So now you’re saying that a good ele would just spamm off CD all these skills by you listed simply to obtain this…“100% protection upkeep”, what you’re proposing go directly against what the developers said, so what’s your point? The ele has suddenly become the new FOTm become some kid go in sPvP and use the tactic by you suggested? I wonder how long will he survive using that method…

To go and spamm all your skill to obtain “uber” effect doesn’t make you a good player…it makes an idiotic player

So you pointed out a major OP bug and get called a troll. Right bet if you pointed out a major OP bug from a class these people dont play they would be demanding fixes.

Keep up the good work Cosmic I understand you dont want ele as your main class to become fotm due to a bug.

Xom.9264:

So you pointed out a major OP bug and get called a troll. Right bet if you pointed out a major OP bug from a class these people dont play they would be demanding fixes.

Keep up the good work Cosmic I understand you dont want ele as your main class to become fotm due to a bug.

The post about the bug was not intended for this thread, the OP has been called a troll for the first post, which contain no informations regarding any bug

The OP is generally spreading disinformations and increase the amount of complaint as consequence:

@Gamefreak

Ele’s can almost have regeration and protection up almost all the time now with this patch, thieves are going to be harder to guess where they are when they stealth now, warriors got some ok changes, not great but ok. Necros are meh for the updates since most of it is underwater combat, they did not fix AI, JH is a joke still, vampire traits are still a complete let down

Arheundel.6451:

Xom.9264:

So you pointed out a major OP bug and get called a troll. Right bet if you pointed out a major OP bug from a class these people dont play they would be demanding fixes.

Keep up the good work Cosmic I understand you dont want ele as your main class to become fotm due to a bug.

The post about the bug was not intended for this thread, the OP has been called a troll for the first post, which contain no informations regarding any bug

The OP is generally spreading disinformations and increase the amount of complaint as consequence:

I find it kind of funny that you accuse the OP for wanting to inflame the forums with hate, arguing etc etc. But you are really the only one taking the bait…Give it a rest already!

@the issue at hand: To blow a few CD’s to get 100% protection upkeep is a trade I would do any day. You do know it’s 33% decreased damage taken right?.. This is broken even without the bug, IMO.

Well time to play my ele until this gets fixed lol

Yea, it’s so broken, crazy. 100% uptime on protection is just completely overpowered, especially with 100% regeneration and strong heals.

Farewell engineer…thanks for all the kit swapping training….I shall wield it valiantly on my new elementalist

Rythgar.2896:

Arheundel.6451:

Xom.9264:

So you pointed out a major OP bug and get called a troll. Right bet if you pointed out a major OP bug from a class these people dont play they would be demanding fixes.

Keep up the good work Cosmic I understand you dont want ele as your main class to become fotm due to a bug.

The post about the bug was not intended for this thread, the OP has been called a troll for the first post, which contain no informations regarding any bug

The OP is generally spreading disinformations and increase the amount of complaint as consequence:

I find it kind of funny that you accuse the OP for wanting to inflame the forums with hate, arguing etc etc. But you are really the only one taking the bait…Give it a rest already!

@the issue at hand: To blow a few CD’s to get 100% protection upkeep is a trade I would do any day. You do know it’s 33% decreased damage taken right?.. This is broken even without the bug, IMO.

Feel free to blow “few CD” to obtain your 100% protection upkeep, once you face decent players..you’ll realize how clueless you are

Arheundel.6451:

Rythgar.2896:

Arheundel.6451:

Xom.9264:

So you pointed out a major OP bug and get called a troll. Right bet if you pointed out a major OP bug from a class these people dont play they would be demanding fixes.

Keep up the good work Cosmic I understand you dont want ele as your main class to become fotm due to a bug.

The post about the bug was not intended for this thread, the OP has been called a troll for the first post, which contain no informations regarding any bug

The OP is generally spreading disinformations and increase the amount of complaint as consequence:

I find it kind of funny that you accuse the OP for wanting to inflame the forums with hate, arguing etc etc. But you are really the only one taking the bait…Give it a rest already!

@the issue at hand: To blow a few CD’s to get 100% protection upkeep is a trade I would do any day. You do know it’s 33% decreased damage taken right?.. This is broken even without the bug, IMO.

Feel free to blow “few CD” to obtain your 100% protection upkeep, once you face decent players..you’ll realize how clueless you are

What is up with the “few CD’s”? It is a few CD’s.. Two coodowns for a ~93% upkeep alone is pretty sick. But keep dreaming your dreams if you wish.

I am not sure if it should be changed, not sure it is OP or not. All I know is that the community spent the better part of the time after release raging on how super strong the Guardians were with their ~100% protection upkeep. Can’t understand why the same does not factor to ele’s. Especially taking the rest of their survival/support options into the picture..

Leave your biased point of view for a second and stop arguing and start debating.

Rythgar.2896:

Arheundel.6451:

Rythgar.2896:

Arheundel.6451:

Xom.9264:

So you pointed out a major OP bug and get called a troll. Right bet if you pointed out a major OP bug from a class these people dont play they would be demanding fixes.

Keep up the good work Cosmic I understand you dont want ele as your main class to become fotm due to a bug.

The post about the bug was not intended for this thread, the OP has been called a troll for the first post, which contain no informations regarding any bug

The OP is generally spreading disinformations and increase the amount of complaint as consequence:

I find it kind of funny that you accuse the OP for wanting to inflame the forums with hate, arguing etc etc. But you are really the only one taking the bait…Give it a rest already!

@the issue at hand: To blow a few CD’s to get 100% protection upkeep is a trade I would do any day. You do know it’s 33% decreased damage taken right?.. This is broken even without the bug, IMO.

Feel free to blow “few CD” to obtain your 100% protection upkeep, once you face decent players..you’ll realize how clueless you are

What is up with the “few CD’s”? It is a few CD’s.. Two coodowns for a ~93% upkeep alone is pretty sick. But keep dreaming your dreams if you wish.

I am not sure if it should be changed, not sure it is OP or not. All I know is that the community spent the better part of the time after release raging on how super strong the Guardians were with their ~100% protection upkeep. Can’t understand why the same does not factor to ele’s. Especially taking the rest of their survival/support options into the picture..

Leave your biased point of view for a second and stop arguing and start debating.

Before talking utter non-sense, you should actually read my posts, in no way I have justified the bug( which will be fixed soon or later anyway).
In my post I was exclusively referring to the first post where you could find this calculation:

Earth attune 8.25/12
Shocking aura 4.95/25
Frost aura 4.95/40
Ring of fire + magnetic grasp 4.95/15

That’s 8 cooldowns between CD on attunements and skills and this assuming a player goes and blow all of his auras to obtain simply a 28s of protection, a boon which can become useful against pure burst builds : 100b/ BS thief , a shatter mesmer already will remove your boons and then completely useless against condition professions : necro-ranger-mesmer-ele-thief etc etc
As I have said before….you’re completely clueless so feel free to play ele exactly as the OP suggest go and spamm your aura one after the other, I wish you gl but pls…don’t go close to tPvP at all

I gotta say i really hoped for 100% bunker 0 damage builds to actually die in this patch… but this just made things worse =/

If OP is right (and I havent played a game lately) then WTF anet? Bunkers, esp ele bunkers, were already too good. Jesus kittening christ this game just gets worse and worse.

The problem with keeping protection up 100% of the time is that it means switching attunements and using combos as soon as you can perform them. The rotation required to keep it up is, by itself, fairly vigorous. This locks you into certain patterns while fighting, which isn’t always the best idea. Indeed, going into Water attunement just for Frost Aura is probably not a good idea. We want to be able to save that bit of burst healing for when it’s needed.

In a practical fight, it’s probably not going to happen. We should be switching to our different attunements at our discretion rather than blindly forcing ourselves into this rotation and very potentially locking ourselves out of valuable skills in the process.

Eles can give themselves a lot of protection, yes, but I don’t think many will be keeping it up 100% of the time in any practical scenario.

MrQuizzles.6823:

The problem with keeping protection up 100% of the time is that it means switching attunements and using combos as soon as you can perform them. The rotation required to keep it up is, by itself, fairly vigorous. This locks you into certain patterns while fighting, which isn’t always the best idea. Indeed, going into Water attunement just for Frost Aura is probably not a good idea. We want to be able to save that bit of burst healing for when it’s needed.

In a practical fight, it’s probably not going to happen. We should be switching to our different attunements at our discretion rather than blindly forcing ourselves into this rotation and very potentially locking ourselves out of valuable skills in the process.

Eles can give themselves a lot of protection, yes, but I don’t think many will be keeping it up 100% of the time in any practical scenario.

I agree with you somewhat, but your whole point of view is a fighting style that adapts to what your enemy does. Why not do your thing and force the reaction out of him/her? This would demand a lot more knowledge of all the professions and being able to staying several steps ahead of the enemy player, but still makes it very very valid. And as a bunker your job kind of is..to survive. And keeping protection up is a big part of it. Not everything is about avoiding/negating the enemies attacks.

MrQuizzles.6823:

The problem with keeping protection up 100% of the time is that it means switching attunements and using combos as soon as you can perform them. The rotation required to keep it up is, by itself, fairly vigorous. This locks you into certain patterns while fighting, which isn’t always the best idea. Indeed, going into Water attunement just for Frost Aura is probably not a good idea. We want to be able to save that bit of burst healing for when it’s needed.

In a practical fight, it’s probably not going to happen. We should be switching to our different attunements at our discretion rather than blindly forcing ourselves into this rotation and very potentially locking ourselves out of valuable skills in the process.

Eles can give themselves a lot of protection, yes, but I don’t think many will be keeping it up 100% of the time in any practical scenario.

The majority of players know this, Anet know this…I wouldn’t concern myself with further explanations I’d be you

Because of you we had like 3-4 whine threads covering both this official forum and a community run forum, what a troll….

Potential strenghts? The title of your video is " Guild Wars 2 bug", you really think to be clever don’t ya?

I find it rather sad that you’re still trying to be clever, so you’re trying to promote this profession strenght?

Before talking utter non-sense,

Dude, seriously ?
Last time i tried to have a discussion with you it turned the same way, if anything you should consider choosing your words better if you don’t want people to react negatively toward you, you had it coming and it took a while before he lost patience.

I don’t even understand where is your issue here, this is something that requires discussion at the very least, and i’ll add on top of this that i already saw a few d/d eles who were able to maintain those boons for a very long time.

Bug aside i’d love to hear some real arguments as to why it is so essential for this build, at least make your case.

Cosmic Teapot.9162:

Arheundel.6451:

Rythgar.2896:

Cosmic Teapot.9162:

Rythgar.2896:

What is up with the “few CD’s”? It is a few CD’s.. Two coodowns for a ~93% upkeep alone is pretty sick. But keep dreaming your dreams if you wish.

Leave your biased point of view for a second and stop arguing and start debating.

My posts seem to bring a few of the more mentally unstable eles out of the woodwork.

The first thing I did when I discovered that magnetic grasp was a leap finisher and made this build was to challenge a competitive ele to some duels to test it (Prince, I believe he quit as he’s fallen off the leader boards). I beat his scepter dagger build, then we both had one victory in a d/d mirror match.

Elemental shielding is a great trait for D/D ele and if you use it you bet your kitten you’re going to try to land the ring of fire + magnetic grasp combo every chance you get. Protection is the equivalent of about 900 toughness and is the best way to run a berserker amulet build and not explode when someone looks at you funny.

Granted, he seems a bit unstable to say the least. And trying to have a discussion with him seems rather..unpleasant and frankly impossible. Since he will just call you clue-less and then start talking about subjects I’ve not even touched

And yes I agree with you. The protection boon is immensely powerful, and to get so much of a upkeep just from elemental shielding activation..There really is no reason not to try to get it off as soon as possible. It is not like: “use it and you will die or don’t use it and save it as a life-saver”. Which Arheundel seems to consider it.

I limit myself to discuss over this videogame..I don’t use internet to cowardly offend people in such awful ways, yes you may be clueless about aspects of the game but that’s about it.
I just wonder why you go out of your way to attack me personally calling me unstable and such, we’re simply debating about a videogame….god it’s like being threatened with a knife during a discussion about a soccer match…chill out man.
Nvm the best course of action is simply to report you and ignore this thread, all points have been made regardless

I find it funny that you call me a troll and then turn around and act all high and mighty like you’re the victim of some great injustice. I didn’t even specifically say anything about you, you can infer whatever you want.

Haha oh man, that was funny!
I don’t want you to feel “personally attacked” but I don’t think you can blame us too much about the “unstable” personality, since you went from jumping on the OP big time to accusing me of personal attacks etc. But if offense was taken I apologize.

And hey dude, beyond calling you a bit unstable we said nothing bad about you really. And the whole heated discussion is completely down to you. Do you expect you can troll, harass and shout out as much as you want in a thread and not expect something back?

But I am satisfied with leaving the discussion as a hopeless one, and just break it up Good call.

And in between these arguments I still think we did get our points out. The bug needs a hot-fix, like yesterday. And I am still very doubtful about the high upkeep for ele’s, especially for bunker ele’s.

muscarine.5136:

Because of you we had like 3-4 whine threads covering both this official forum and a community run forum, what a troll….

Potential strenghts? The title of your video is " Guild Wars 2 bug", you really think to be clever don’t ya?

I find it rather sad that you’re still trying to be clever, so you’re trying to promote this profession strenght?

Before talking utter non-sense,

Dude, seriously ?
Last time i tried to have a discussion with you it turned the same way, if anything you should consider choosing your words better if you don’t want people to react negatively toward you, you had it coming and it took a while before he lost patience.

I don’t even understand where is your issue here, this is something that requires discussion at the very least, and i’ll add on top of this that i already saw a few d/d eles who were able to maintain those boons for a very long time.

Bug aside i’d love to hear some real arguments as to why it is so essential for this build, at least make your case.

The starting point of my case is that I remember that we’re talking about a videogame, when I come here I drop all pretenses of a real life, I passionately talk about this elementalist profession…but some people really take this “passion” over the top.
People get personally offended for being called trolls? for real dude?…wow this is more than being a simple geek ..jesus.
This is a like soccer : “Fan A =My team is better , Fan B=No my team is better” there is no need for real name calling, a simple discussion over a video game forum and you start calling people “unstable” and more, nvm then I’m wrong you guys are right..end

Arheundel.6451:

muscarine.5136:

Because of you we had like 3-4 whine threads covering both this official forum and a community run forum, what a troll….

Potential strenghts? The title of your video is " Guild Wars 2 bug", you really think to be clever don’t ya?

I find it rather sad that you’re still trying to be clever, so you’re trying to promote this profession strenght?

Before talking utter non-sense,

Dude, seriously ?
Last time i tried to have a discussion with you it turned the same way, if anything you should consider choosing your words better if you don’t want people to react negatively toward you, you had it coming and it took a while before he lost patience.

I don’t even understand where is your issue here, this is something that requires discussion at the very least, and i’ll add on top of this that i already saw a few d/d eles who were able to maintain those boons for a very long time.

Bug aside i’d love to hear some real arguments as to why it is so essential for this build, at least make your case.

The starting point of my case is that I remember that we’re talking about a videogame, when I come here I drop all pretenses of a real life, I passionately talk about this elementalist profession…but some people really take this “passion” over the top.
People get personally offended for being called trolls? for real dude?…wow this is more than being a simple geek ..jesus.
This is a like soccer : “Fan A =My team is better , Fan B=No my team is better” there is no need for real name calling, a simple discussion over a video game forum and you start calling people “unstable” and more, nvm then I’m wrong you guys are right..end

It might be based off of how You decided to make your points? Let’s not forget who it was that set the bar for the discussion. And to jump from being very aggressive and calling people trolls (yes it is offensive) and being clue-less etc, to verbally shrinking down into fetus position and expressing feelings of being personally attacked is to me being a bit unstable. Sorry for pointing it out.

The mentally unstable comment was uncalled for and I apologize. It was largely in reference to posts that I was getting in my burst combo threads like this one

John Q. Elementalist

Stop posting these frakking videos that show nothing but your burst combo. Show us you playing that spec successfully in a tournament and we might get talking.

Otherwise you’re just some bimbo who tries his best to get ele nerfed even frakking more with some frakked up 3 second video.

I got a lot of positive feedback from these videos but a few people, this individual in particular, were repeatedly posting obscenities and accusing me of having secret agendas to get eles nerfed. I found it mildly disturbing to say the least. If anyone is interested it was a video like this one.

you know i might complain about this if my new and improved condition ranger didnt absolutely melt every d/d he came across tonight. maintaining 100% prot doesnt seem to do much for you except, well, give you protection all the time. it’s a predictable pattern, one that can be easily countered.

Seems to be fixed now since I am getting the regular up times.

Awesome! as a mesmer I cant wait to Arcane Thievery some super long duration protection/regeneration! obviously then i will win the fight

seriously tho there is counters to everything, even this.

didn’t read the patch so seemed strange this morning to see 3 eles in a row with those boons up all time, now i understand….they took advantage of this pretty fast, at last 3 on 5 eles i met were already doing this..

ok this makes d/d rather broken now..but id like to remind everyone that this is a bug,
just a BUG and not representative of the actual d/d power and whether its op or not!!