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Posted by: Glenstorm.4059

Glenstorm.4059

So, we all know the meta will be changing drastically starting tomorrow.

While I hope I’m not alone in being excited to see all the new possibilities, there will undoubtedly be builds and classes that will absolutely dominate, and others that will absolutely be dominated, and maybe forced out of the meta entirely, irrespective of individual player skill.

My point is, I hope that the devs in charge of balance keep a watchful eye over the meta and step in to nerf OP builds/buff terribad builds in a timely manner. It would be a shame to be stuck with a toxic meta for another 4-6 months.

Fear the might of SHATTERSTONE.

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Posted by: Trevor Boyer.6524

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Much more is changing than just statistics. The dynamic flow of Conquest matches will be very different due to the changes in: condis to boons, boons to condis. Guardian Bunkers will be back and Necromancers devoted to trashing your team’s boons will become big players. By the time HoT releases and we see Chronomancers, the meta will be in a similar place to that of GW1 where matches heavily revolve around the holy trinity play of Guardians/Necromancers/Mesmers due to their strong influences in mitigating damage, buffing, stripping boons, the coversion of boons to condis, condis to boons as just plain debilitation effects that cannot be mitigated at all.

This effect will be even stronger in WvW
God save you in HoT if your zerg doesn’t have Guardians/Necromancers/Mesmers in it

That’s my forecast

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Posted by: Gryph.8237

Gryph.8237

Uh necros are going to be replaced by mesmers, and will be effectively worth dook in pvp and roaming

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Posted by: Bhawb.7408

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Necromancers will be the kings of 1v1. So strong in fact that they can 1v1 themselves with no enemy input needed!

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Posted by: Gryph.8237

Gryph.8237

Necromancers will be the kings of 1v1. So strong in fact that they can 1v1 themselves with no enemy input needed!

+1

Would give more if I could but hey devs don’t read anyways.

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Posted by: Drarnor Kunoram.5180

Drarnor Kunoram.5180

Necromancers will be the kings of 1v1. So strong in fact that they can 1v1 themselves with no enemy input needed!

And they’ll do it in less time than it takes for Consume Conditions to recharge!

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Posted by: skowcia.8257

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Necromancers will be the kings of 1v1. So strong in fact that they can 1v1 themselves with no enemy input needed!

+1

Would give more if I could but hey devs don’t read anyways.

#Believe in Robert Gee. Yet necros praised him for reapec spec, i wonder if they admit it now. Dont be shy guys, show yourself ^^

obey me

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Posted by: Atherakhia.4086

Atherakhia.4086

You can’t use vague terms like ‘prompt’. It’s been a year since the last real effort to balance this game. Anything short of 12 months could be considered ‘prompt’.

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Posted by: Kako.1930

Kako.1930

I just hope they don’t break anything too terribly, but I’m pretty sure they will lol. Like that one update where they accidentally made Chaos Storm so strong a team of 5 mesmers could instakill lupicus with it, or any mesmer in pvp could autokill anyone else in pvp without even giving them a downed state. :P

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Posted by: Yamsandjams.3267

Yamsandjams.3267

“Metas” need time to develop, and they can change over time.

The last thing you want are knee-jerk reactions to things that don’t need to be nerfed or buffed, and then come back here a month later saying “why did you buff X in the previous patch, it’s clearly overpowered now!?”, which was what happened with things like rampager stance.

I think they will have it on their priority list though, seeing as they know the scale of the effect this will have on the game. But I don’t think it’s something that’ll happen very soon (aside from the cases where there might be extremely broken stuff).

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Posted by: mistsim.2748

mistsim.2748

for a while I was very excited about tomorrow’s patch, but after seeing some of these builds and stats on today’s streams, im convinced it will be a total gong show tomorrow and for a long while after.

also, were they drunk while buffing the engie?

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Posted by: Yamsandjams.3267

Yamsandjams.3267

also, were they drunk while buffing the engie?

Drunk with POWER< AHAHHAH!!!

Ahem….

Well they were drinking beer on the most recent livestream (don’t like ANet people, we know what it was :P).

In any case, I’m kind of thinking they will nerf a lot of the engineer stuff… there’s been so many alterations to engineer that it’s tough to predict exactly how it will go down (the new “meta” will need time to cook).

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Posted by: Kuju.2153

Kuju.2153

The power creep is going to be a bit of a drastic increase tomorrow. I was just playing around with builds for Shatter Mesmer, Fresh Air Ele, D/P Thief, Medi Guard, and Power Necro….. and holy crap. I really want to see a Sw/T Shatter Mesmer with P/U (now 100% stealth increase and persona being made baseline) for the laughs – even if it isn’t the best build.

Hopefully they are ready to do a quick balance pass indeed as there will be things that are clearly op with so many changes going in at once.

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Posted by: Blackjack.5621

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. It would be a shame to be stuck with a toxic meta for another 4-6 months.

You mean another year, the last time we saw effective changes was april 15 2014 , since then ranger and necro have been underperforming and air/fire sigils proc people to death. You can aswell just quit if your class is not viable or hope for the addon where you get access to the elite spec traitline.

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Posted by: Gryph.8237

Gryph.8237

meta did not change, its the same 5-6 classes dominating.

well, at least necro is bottom tier, and will be utterly gone from the top tier meta.

It’s dead.

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Posted by: SPESHAL.9106

SPESHAL.9106

The game is several years old and the playerbase is very knowledgeable now.

Almost everyone sees the problems upcoming with certain abilities and professions, but it’s just a case of timing now. I’m sure they had a deadline to meet, so that’s why these changes (warts and all) are getting rushed out.

You could even tell on the stream how rushed they were just getting the power point done. Not to mention, neither of the guys knew for sure how the new Ranger healing trap worked.

That pretty much tells you there has been little testing done because how would it be possible to not even know how a healing skill works if you’ve been playing with the profession or against the profession.

Expect chaos tomorrow and many of the predictions will be surprisingly accurate. In fact, they had beta streamers today and it’s pretty clear that there are tons of imbalances they are letting go live…despite it being impossible for them not to know about it.

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Posted by: mistsim.2748

mistsim.2748

^ couldn’t have said it any better: expect chaos due to lack of testing. lol.

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Posted by: Relshdan.6854

Relshdan.6854

no way!…..necro devs deserve as much time as possible to bask in the triumph of their glorious troll job

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Posted by: BlackBeard.2873

BlackBeard.2873

Such infrequent balance changes are to allow a kind of celebration of “the year of X”

Prepare for the year of the engineer. Funny how it follows the year of the engineer…I think someone bugged to code..

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Posted by: Ara.4569

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Necro has never been meta in 3 years bare 2 weeks of Dhuumfire/Terror. After which we got nerfed into oblivion, patch after patch after patch.

Terror is still nerfed because of Dhuumfire that is now dealing 1 stack of 3 sec burning if we manage to hit with our slowest attack in Shroud that requires LF in a build that can’t generate enough (condi), just to achieve less damage than scepter auto attack… Hahahaha hahah aha ha hah ahahahah !! ! !! !!! Dies

Balance team is a bunch of clowns, hurting the game to the full extent of their abilities.

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Posted by: SPESHAL.9106

SPESHAL.9106

Speaking of Dhuumfire, it’s probably the most embarrassing Grandmaster trait ever now.

Not only are better versions available to other professions as minors, but it’s actually WORSE than Death Perception (the 50% crit grandmaster in the same tree line) for CONDI necros!!!

Don’t believe me? Imagine how easy it is to miss with DS 1 versus DS 4. Now, consider Burning Precision and Target the Weak which are what 100% of condi necros will have because they are defaults in the Curses line. The extra crit from Death Perception will proc Burning Precison and Target the Weak creating MORE condi damage than 1 stack of burning. You can also proc it from DS 4 (and any other DS ability…not just DS 1).

PLUS!!!! You get the extra raw damage from 50% crit while in death shroud which will make 1 stack of burning look like a complete joke.

How can someone with ANY experience in the game seriously call Dhuumfire a grandmaster??? It’s baffling and very embarrassing.

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Posted by: mistsim.2748

mistsim.2748

necros are so beastly right now. like, so hot.

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Posted by: Drarnor Kunoram.5180

Drarnor Kunoram.5180

necros are so beastly right now. like, so hot.

Except the condition builds, funnily enough.

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Posted by: Bhawb.7408

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Soldier Signet Necros are better condi builds than condi necros.

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Posted by: Catchlove.2189

Catchlove.2189

see you guys in 6-12 monthes for the balance changes. Sure do love how Anet has implemented their plan for “shaving” changes.

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Posted by: displacedTitan.6897

displacedTitan.6897

Shatter Mes are 100% broken currently.

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Posted by: PlatinumMember.5274

PlatinumMember.5274

see you guys in 6-12 monthes for the balance changes. Sure do love how Anet has implemented their plan for “shaving” changes.

As much as I love to dog on Arena net for their horrible balance skill. What you said is kinda stupid, since there is literally an expansion coming out within the next few months as in less than 6 months.

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Posted by: Bhawb.7408

Bhawb.7408

And it isn’t that crazy to assume that we won’t see a balance patch until then, from past history (although I think ANet has stepped up the cadence game this time around).

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